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new ACU3 roms VS org. ship roms - stability adv?

Hi,
I am reading carefully all post about new ACU 3 roms - those created by Ivan and by Jwrightmcps. I am quite tempted to upgrade to one of those but I would like to ask some of You who tried those roms to share some basic advantages those new roms have over old ones.
I mean I need my Universal mainly for work - its not a toy for me so I cannot accept reboots and radio dropouts.
I am now satisfied with my present rom (newest O2) but sometime radio hungs up. I dont have any problem with speed and I dont care about push mail much.
Only stability is my main concern.
Can You share some of Your thoughts about it?
best regards,
Piotr

nabuhonodozor said:
Hi,
I am reading carefully all post about new ACU 3 roms - those created by Ivan and by Jwrightmcps. I am quite tempted to upgrade to one of those but I would like to ask some of You who tried those roms to share some basic advantages those new roms have over old ones.
I mean I need my Universal mainly for work - its not a toy for me so I cannot accept reboots and radio dropouts.
I am now satisfied with my present rom (newest O2) but sometime radio hungs up. I dont have any problem with speed and I dont care about push mail much.
Only stability is my main concern.
Can You share some of Your thoughts about it?
best regards,
Piotr
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Piotr,
I am using the i-mate AKU 3.2 ROM since a week, and I have no issue with it. Fast and reliable, I can recommend you to use this one.

Hi,
I have the Orange version M5000 and havent upgraded since I had it!!
I'm well behind on ROM upgrades but the device is perfect for me. Loads of apps on it, plenty of surfing, streaming, listening to music, games. Don't to do a ROM upgrade just for push mail which at this time I have no need. Some people have reported less battery, more freezes after upgrade
Currently ROM 1.13, Radio:1.03
So there you go 2 very different answers - I would wait for further responses!!
Matt

you shld try the newer rom as it is faster than before

If you have a problem with radio hang ups, I would change the radio part and leave the CE and Ext ROM. Especially because you rely on it so heavily.

Don't upgrade to 3 yet
I have a Wizard currently running Shogun's 2.26 ROM I switched to it after running the 3.2 for about a week. It was a lot faster and there were many features I liked about it but when browsing the internet it was consistantly locking up causing me to ultimatly downgrade until a more stable version is released.

bmwquickspeed said:
I have a Wizard currently running Shogun's 2.26 ROM I switched to it after running the 3.2 for about a week. It was a lot faster and there were many features I liked about it but when browsing the internet it was consistantly locking up causing me to ultimatly downgrade until a more stable version is released.
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I too have tried it for more than a week and still its working better than new by the way which handset and ROM version u had tried ?

Last two post - are We speaking about wizard or univarsal?

Universal aka Jasjar as it is in my signature.

WM6 Rom Comparisons/Feedback

Hi,
I would like to get some peoples thoughts/feedback on the different WM6 ROMs available.
I have a Dopod 838 Pro and am probably going to flash it purely to see if any extra functionality can be gained out of it & seeing as i have Windows Vista on my Laptop, it seems logical to have WM6 on my XDA
XDA Live & LVSW seem to be looking the most populat of the current flavors around?
Any comments?
I'm actually just flashing the device now with LVSW but was reading some of the posts about XDA Live & it seems tempting...
I guess i may aswell mention i'm also testing out Telstra NextG at work, so anything which will make the radio more responsive & reliable is going to go down well in my books.
If mine goes good, then i might have to do the same for one of the managers at work who has the i-mate jasjam but with the current Telstra ROM on there it is performing like a snail in a sand pit.
All comments appreciated, seeing as i'm the guinea pig at work for most of this stuff.
Thanks.

I tried first LVSW, and run into installation trouble. I got the infamous white screen, and after I made it work, it was really slow. Maybe all my mistake, don't know. I tried than XDA Live 2, and that installed like a charm, and works like a charm, very fast. I am using it since 3 days now, and did not have a single time to soft re-set - and that was necessary with WM5 at least 3 twice a day.

Hi there,
I have notice many users with i-Mate JasJam have upgraded to WM6 Black Edition V1.2.
Anyone have any comments or comparison to the other two?
I am currently own a JasJam with WM5 - this thing runs like a dog and having to soft re-set almost everyday - I am currently considering upgrade to WM6 but really not sure which one to go for.
Any advice would be really appreciated - thanks.

See this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/664668.html
You may have to do that reg hack to enable nextg.. that was the first thing I noticed after flashing a non standard rom.. less band options.. being on plain ole gsm, it didn't bother me.. but that's the only place I've seen mention of it.

I flashed my Dopod 838Pro with Black 1.2 and couldn't be happier. It's really quick, as stable as I noticed WM5 to be, and (being an Aussie) I prefer to have a rom which was cooked here and has carrier settings for here. This was my first experience with flashing a ROM but I only intend to flash again with a later version of the Black ROM. I'd highly recommend it.

I began with the WM6 vanilla and then went to an earlier LSVW ROM. The earlier LSVW took 25 min to flash. I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
I went back to the vanilla ROM. It takes a little tweaking to get it right but takes only a few minutes to flash. It's also stable. One does have to move the windows office icons around to use MS office.
Remember to SIM and CID unlock your hermes before flashing. Also, you'll have to use the keyboard fix cab for certain hermes versions.

I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
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nope...I installed the OS only version and it took about only 6 minutes to install.
you need an 'OS only' rom if you have already flashed the radio to the latest version.

WM6 Black 1.2 is the best IMHO. I used XDA Live for several weeks, but find Black more quicker and more stable, less soft resets etc.

My preference is with the latest LSVW. It has less baggage than WMBE but if you need the functionality of the extra software provided with WMBE then you should chose that.
I think there is not much difference in terms of stability between the two although there has been issues with white screen (more apparent with the LSVW apparently) tho I haven't been cursed with that yet. Most of the instability/compatibility issues lie within the software installed after flashing the OS.
If I'm correct, LSVW has not had the OS version number editted to allow BBC/GOODLINK to work on it but WMBE has. This is not an issue for me since I have no use for these programs.
There is also some more recent additions to the variety of WM6 roms tho they are based on the LSVW version.
I'm looking forwards to Jasjammings WMBE 2.0 which he claims to be based on a final version of WM6. This should be very promising and despite the various added features which I won't need I'll definately be installing.

I was using Vanilla at first, sometimes my TyTN hung up but not too often. Then XDA Live v.10, without any problems. Then I've tried Black Edition v.1.2 but it had issues with SPB Software, sop that was no good for me at all.. Now I'm trying LVSW 2007-03-26, so far so good.. but probably i will flash again to XDA Live v.30 when it's avalaible

WM6 ROM stability tests

With so many ROMS up there and so many complications caused by different software, tweaks, etc., I used to test the stability of the ROMS like this:
Remove MicroSD card, fully charged. Backup PIM data with SPB backup.
Flash the new ROM.
Set datetime, regional stuff, Restore PIM data.
Set the phone to use GSM (2G) only.
Use the phone for 2 days without installing any 3rd party software and without the MicroSD card.
By use the phone I mean only voice call and SMS only. That's what I do with the phone for 80% of the time.
So far, only LVSW's latest ROM (June 16) can function properly in 2 days without hang or sleep of death.
I know it's not scientific nor comprehensive, I didn't test all the functions, .....
But that's the way I want my phone, simply WORK for voice and SMS first. Other stuff are value-added things, and I test their functions only after the ROM passed my 2-day test.

Stephen - what other ROMs did you test?

gregross said:
Stephen - what other ROMs did you test?
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So far, only LVSW's latest ROM (June 16) can function properly in 2 days without hang or sleep of death. <<<<< this..
me using too.. have little bit problem only

Stephen - what other ROMs did you test?
As far as I can recall:
Black: Black 1.2, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, Dymond, Shadow, Shadow Lite.
LVSW: 26/3, 8/4, 23/4, 7/5 full, 19/5 full, Sleuth variant 20/5, Elf 2.1, 16/6 full
Custel: 1.2, 1.3, 2.5
Dutty: WM6 Pro FULL.
Never try 3DES, Schaps and XDA live.
My personal experience of the order of stability:
LVSW > Custel & Dutty >> Blacks.
Don't flame me. It's just my own experience. May be your phone has other results.
PS -all cooked ROM chefs are great and nice guys. They share their toys with us!!

stephencwl said:
Stephen - what other ROMs did you test?
As far as I can recall:
Black: Black 1.2, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, Dymond, Shadow, Shadow Lite.
LVSW: 26/3, 8/4, 23/4, 7/5 full, 19/5 full, Sleuth variant 20/5, Elf 2.1, 16/6 full
Custel: 1.2, 1.3, 2.5
Dutty: WM6 Pro FULL.
Never try 3DES, Schaps and XDA live.
My personal experience of the order of stability:
LVSW > Custel & Dutty >> Blacks.
Don't flame me. It's just my own experience. May be your phone has other results.
PS -all cooked ROM chefs are great and nice guys. They share their toys with us!!
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that's a comprehensive list - what carrier and phone?

stephencwl said:
With so many ROMS up there and so many complications caused by different software, tweaks, etc., I used to test the stability of the ROMS like this:
Remove MicroSD card, fully charged. Backup PIM data with SPB backup.
Flash the new ROM.
Set datetime, regional stuff, Restore PIM data.
Set the phone to use GSM (2G) only.
Use the phone for 2 days without installing any 3rd party software and without the MicroSD card.
By use the phone I mean only voice call and SMS only. That's what I do with the phone for 80% of the time.
So far, only LVSW's latest ROM (June 16) can function properly in 2 days without hang or sleep of death.
I know it's not scientific nor comprehensive, I didn't test all the functions, .....
But that's the way I want my phone, simply WORK for voice and SMS first. Other stuff are value-added things, and I test their functions only after the ROM passed my 2-day test.
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Stephen,
Can you be more specific as to what happened with the phones that didn't pass your test? (hang, sleep of death, etc.) What happened with the latest version WM5 rom of your provider? Who is your provider & what level of service do you have?
What radio version are you using for each rom?
I've used every rom you mention plus others & no problems with basic functions.
For your future tests, you may consider adding some additional steps:
1. After setting up phone each time, do a complete shut down (hold pwr button until dialog appears to select OFF) & then power ON from this totally OFF point.
2. As a control, return to wm5 between each test.
3. Delete any files on SD card (between tests) that are created automatically (e.g. WMDRM, Windows, etc..) depending on how you use card.
In your tests here, did you return to WM5 rom between each rom you tried? This is very important (& time consuming, I realize) to do in such a test. For any conclusions to be drawn (without being unfair to various rom cookers with arbitrary listings in order of stability), we need more info & a protocol that includes controls.
Thanks for contributing this report, as every little bit helps, but please give us more details.

gregross said:
that's a comprehensive list - what carrier and phone?
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I'm from Hong Kong.
Carrier: Smartone - Vodafone.
Phone: Softbank X01HT (Hermes 200)

DeviLduck said:
Can you be more specific as to what happened with the phones that didn't pass your test? (hang, sleep of death, etc.) What happened with the latest version WM5 rom of your provider? Who is your provider & what level of service do you have?
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I just keep things simple. I only look at system hang and sleep of death. My latest WM5 ROM (Dopod HK Traditional Chinese) sucks. That's why there's no point of using it as a control for comparing with the wonderful WM6 ROMs.
DeviLduck said:
I've used every rom you mention plus others & no problems with basic functions.
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I wish my phone can work like yours.
DeviLduck said:
For your future tests, you may consider adding some additional steps:
1. After setting up phone each time, do a complete shut down (hold pwr button until dialog appears to select OFF) & then power ON from this totally OFF point.
2. As a control, return to wm5 between each test.
3. Delete any files on SD card (between tests) that are created automatically (e.g. WMDRM, Windows, etc..) depending on how you use card.
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I'll try step 1 and 3. Thanks a lot for the suggestions.
DeviLduck said:
For any conclusions to be drawn (without being unfair to various rom cookers with arbitrary listings in order of stability), we need more info & a protocol that includes controls.
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Yes, I know I should be more sensitive as to drawing up any listing that might be unfair to the great ROM cooker here. I do mention it's just my own experience, yet I think I better not do any listing.
Giving more details about protocols, radios, carrier info., etc. is a good idea that make tests scientific, but I just want to do it quick and make things simple. It's difficult to flash back and forth a few times to just test one particular ROM, not to mention their combinations with different radios.
That's why I use a simple 2-day test for each ROM. And you know, a few ROMS sometimes coming out at the same day. Woo... Lucky us.

LVSW's Rom is the most stable.
Smoking causes Cancer.
2 things most people know already.

Elf v2.1 (LVSW variant) takes ROM cooking to a whole new level of Elfish Goodness

whodatfever said:
LVSW's Rom is the most stable.
Smoking causes Cancer.
2 things most people know already.
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Thank you for your advice and information. It's attitude like yours that scares people, not only newbies and some cookers, away from XDA forum.
Do we really have to slap on somebody's face in every thread? Can we be nice to each other (before everyone else left the forum)?

Stephen,
Thanks for your reply to my post & revealing your provider & phone in another. What Radio ver are you using? Have you tried more than 1 version? In your testing, I'd suggest you stay with only one version.
Your provider in Hong Kong gives you access to very high HSDPA speeds, not available many places yet. That's cool.

LegolasTheElf said:
Elf v2.1 (LVSW variant) takes ROM cooking to a whole new level of Elfish Goodness
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haha you're so funny!
but you're also right... yours and Sleuth's (previous one and maybe the new one)

DeviLduck said:
Stephen,
Thanks for your reply to my post & revealing your provider & phone in another. What Radio ver are you using? Have you tried more than 1 version? In your testing, I'd suggest you stay with only one version.
Your provider in Hong Kong gives you access to very high HSDPA speeds, not available many places yet. That's cool.
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Thank you for your comment. I always stay with radio 1.40. Smartone Vodafone in Hong Kong is quite good. However, full speed HSPDA unlimited usage costs around US$60 a month. That's quite pricy for casual users.

I've been using JJ's Shadow since it came out and I've had to reset fewer times then with the OEM rom. And I think its the third party software that I'm running that makes it lock up. I think one of the things that might help is to do a factory reset before installing ... then reseting after the install, making sure everything is working before you start installing the next option/software (ex. radio upgrade/programs/etc)
And always having the latest bootloader installed is always a must.
A friend of mine called Cingular about always needing to reset because of it locking up and they said that was normal.

Good Stable Rom i dont think there is one!?!

Alright i have tried about every rom on this site now i have had alot of good runs with some but some of them i have bad runs with some now i am going to ask some people...which rom is the best one for Texting and MMS...i would also like it to be fast and stable does anyone know of a rom like it lol
Thanks!
P.S - Some roms would restart on there own I HATE THAT!

I've use this one since it's arrival, and it's fast and reliable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
I find this one incredibly stable, just as long as you don't stupidly add the x-button program on top of what's already there. It'll create a conflict in the software and force a reset.
I don't text, so I'd advise reading through to gauge what other people think.

LlamaLord said:
Alright i have tried about every rom on this site now i have had alot of good runs with some but some of them i have bad runs with some now i am going to ask some people...which rom is the best one for Texting and MMS...i would also like it to be fast and stable does anyone know of a rom like it lol
Thanks!
P.S - Some roms would restart on there own I HATE THAT!
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If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.

st3v3 said:
If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.
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What RADIO version are you using ?

CRCs ROM
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.

Agree CRC's are the go
quarlow said:
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.
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I agree with this. IMHO CRC's Stable roms have all the features that are required. I have played with many but always come back to his stable versions when I want to use my hermes for work.

Stable and fast
Hi
I have tried most of the roms released here, and just 2 months ago came across DVH roms. This Vietnamese guy is really finding speed and reliability in my Hermes. It is the only roms that didn't mess up no matter what I install. All the others fail sooner or later or they are too slow compared to the roms of this guy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392042
Best regards RT, Norway

st3v3 said:
If you know what you are doing they are fine, im on my 6th 6.1 rom in a month and since upgrading my radio ive not had a problem with restarts or lockups.
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If you are on your 6th one in a month then how do you know they are stable? You dont seem to use them long enough to find out.

Most of the 6.1 roms out there are stable, however you need to follow the rules and flash a carrier rom before flashing. - some require a good radio rom etc.
i saw you posted in binkys 3.9 thread.. well im using that rom and have been using it pre-release and its fine.. no problems what so ever.. so theres something wrong with the way your running your roms.

So far I found Pay's last one to work the best for me. I have kept it longer then any ROM including the stock one so far. I will probably try one of the 6.1 roms again now that they are getting figured out more, but that will be after I come back from Greece.

All I do is text, MMS, make phone calls, and check the weather or check my email from time to time and the best IMHO is the MRH ROMs followed closely by the Binkey11's ROM. The MRH one is my favorite because it has most the features and apps but Binky's is really good for being light and fast. I am bouncing back and forth between them and I like them the most right now.
I am also a HUGE fan of Schaps ROMs so be sure to look for that one here in the next little bit. I would venture to guess it will probably be the benchmark all other WM6.1 ROMs are measured by.

bartybet said:
If you are on your 6th one in a month then how do you know they are stable? You dont seem to use them long enough to find out.
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If u flash often, then u know u'r device's feel, behavior, apps, etc. So, it doesn't take that long to evaluate if u'r own device is stable, buggy, quick, slow, etc.
I find most of these cooks roms (from hard work & revised versions) very stable...

This is how to go about?
kingsizeriz said:
Most of the 6.1 roms out there are stable, however you need to follow the rules and flash a carrier rom before flashing. - some require a good radio rom etc.
i saw you posted in binkys 3.9 thread.. well im using that rom and have been using it pre-release and its fine.. no problems what so ever.. so theres something wrong with the way your running your roms.
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So i flash to AT&T New Rom 1st then install a rom that i want and it should run fine???
quarlow said:
I too have tried every ROM on this board I could find. The one liked the best was CRC's r9.2. It seemed to load the fastest, from the get go. I noticed right away in the screen alignment. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
For texting the WM6.1 is a must, with threaded TXT, it's amazing. Like you I am running the AT&T 8525. I had problems with my internet connection, then I updated my radio, here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
After that, no problems.
I liked this one the best because it had everything I wanted, Task Manager, Office Mobile, Flashlite, and the auto-network config worked better than others I tried.
It will be this ROM for me, or the Offical ROM from AT&T. I CANNOT wait for his 10.4 release.
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I am going to give that a shot and upgrade my radio...i have had 1.54.30.10 before but maybe i should stay with it = D...I am alrdy running CRCs rom and i do like it but so far i loved Binkys roms but it just keep restarting on me i cant have that! = /

PDAViet WM6.1 build 19900 black version ROM is the best thing that happened to my TyTn. I've been running this for a month now, its fast, stable, no problem what so ever though loaded with lots of apps. Its really a good one for my hermes.

LlamaLord said:
So i flash to AT&T New Rom 1st then install a rom that i want and it should run fine???
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yeah - should depending on applications that you install after and their 6.1 stability

i dont get why?
kingsizeriz said:
yeah - should depending on applications that you install after and their 6.1 stability
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So why do we do this and what is the reason to go through all of this?

LlamaLord said:
So why do we do this and what is the reason to go through all of this?
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i believe it has something to do with the storage, and the carrier rom returns the device to the original settings.

CRC's ROM's are the best in my opinion & I think I've tried most of the others.
Been running CRC 10.4 since release with no issues.
I find it's only add-ons or bad CABs that may make them unstable.

Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite
Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite or Berd's 4.31 SS (=Schap's WM6 4.31 WWE Lite with 3.62 SuperStorage).
Have been running this ROM for months now, zero issues and very very fast.

New Phone - best ROM

Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.

Extinguishers at the ready! a popular question indeed. I use Dutty's it rocks.

I use Bepe's ROM, 1st because they are really stable, 2nd because I can manage my own language

Fallen Spartan said:
Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.
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Anything based on the 1.93 roms are good. I used one of the stock roms on mine.
Generally it is considered that the .05 radio is the best, but I found the .11 gave me slightly better 3G coverage. I think there might be a .16 on the way but I dont know when that will be released.

I'm just using the latest official ROM (1.93). For once I find the official Diaond ROMS quite stable and usable. I've flashed a few ROMS such as Diamond project and Elite and find more annoyances on these ROMs than the original: things like modded splash screens I don't like and web links opening with I.E. instead of Opera.
I recommend just using the latest generic HTC ROM for now, unless you have particular cause to change, though to be fair you could just try all of them and see which you like best!
It's all good fun.

OK thread cleaned up. Stay on topic please people.
@ Reb0rn - lose the attitude, if you dont like the thread, dont post in it ....simple.

I use the TLR 3 ROM, it runs on 1.93.xxx.2 and i like it coz it keeps most of the stock features/look but with upgrades and tweaks to make it faster + its very stable - It is also one of the very few (if only) ROM's that includes the AppToDate application which allows you to update the phone over the air and hence means you don't have to flash the phone too often to get the latest stuff.
The .05 radio is the best and also makes the phone quad band... (you may also want to check out the Gsensor apps page on the 'diamond' part of the forum some cool stuff their.)