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Has anyone tried Navigon MN5 with Artemis yet?..........
Thanks
Rafiki
I did.. Navigon works fine, but is really slow on my Artemis. TomTom is much faster. I tried Navigon because of the TMC support, but i can't get TMC to work on my device. I'm going to try iGo 2006 as well, but for now TomTom does the job very well.
Now I'm using iGo 2006. I can recommend this piece of software to everyone, it's much faster than both TomTom and Navigon. The looks are incredible.
My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??
tmaxx said:
My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??
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Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!
Navigon 6
Navigon 6 works fine, but it is really slow on Artemis, is there anyone knows how to turn the first warning off in the begining of screen ?
Does iGo support QuickGPS so that it can lock on fast?
A cool nav program is Route 66. Works fine and gets a fix in approx.10 sec. Uses same maps as Navigon btw!
TomTom is a joke if you live in Eastern Europe. Either no maps at all or very poor with only very major roads.
I only work with DestinAtor on my Artemis. Version 6.0.0.
Very fast fixes (approx 6-9 seconds) and response from map is better then TommyTommy, according to a friend of mine. He switch over to DestinAtor aswell.
TomTom GPS Settings...?
low405 said:
Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!
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Guys can someone tell me what settings they have on their Artemis' GPS Settings and on their TomTom 6.200?
On my Artemis' GPS settings, I have it set to:
GPS Programs Port: COM4
GPS Hardware Port: COM2
Baud Rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically set to: ON
And on the TomTom settings I configured it to use the Other NMEA GPS Receiver, set the baud rate to 4800 and then when it asks "GPS is connected to:" I just select COM4 which is the first option.
Now this works for me pretty well but the weird thing is my HTC P3600 seems to be a lot quicker at getting a fix and it has connections with more sattelites and a better signal than the Artemis!
As far as I know, the artemis is suppose to be much better when it comes to GPS because it has the latest Sirf 3 GPS receiver and from what I read somewhere, the P3600 has another GPS chip not as good as the Sirf 3.
Would be good to know what settings everyone else is using. By the way TomTom only seems to detect the GPS when the GPS Programs Port is set to COM4 on the Artemis' GPS settings. Setting this to anything else doesnt work.
Thanks in advance.
D.C
Hello, I put the Navigon 6,2 software on my P3300 today. Awesome stuff. The update 6,2 has improved the Speed alot.
The only thing that i need help with is the TMC service.
how can i get that up and running?
Thanks
Tim
Hi,
I'm currently running navigon 6.1.5 on my P3300 with WM6 (NewArtemis2). Every now and then I'm getting the message that my memory is full. At that moment I can choose to end different programs. Normally or MN6 or phone. Because I'm using navigation I choose telephone. Then after a few minutes I'm getting a network faillure and MN6 ends.
Is this a known problem and if it is, is there a sollution for it?
Thanks for your help.
Paul
Bringing up an old topic again.
I tried to install Navigon MN6.2 on my artemis. Everything goes well, except for the images on the screen, it's far from smooth.
How did other people manage to run MN6.2 to run smoothly on there Artemis?
... can someone give me the settings to fix this problem, and also an english lanuage voice, thanks
Other NMEA GPS recever Baud Speed to 9600 on Com 4 should work fine. You can download a voice from www.tomtom.com go to the Plus section of the site and select voices, the built in ones are available for download, what happened to your original? - Mike
thanks for the help, dont know what happened but they all came up not installedhad a look at the extended rom and tried to run the cab but it wouldnt run, but al should be fine now thanks
the gps still wont work, what settings do you have in the gps applet in settings? i cant select com 4 in tom tom what comes up is com9 gps com0 com2 and serial, no matter what it is set to in the gps settings
I think you need tom tom 6.02 to recognize the internal gps.
I'm using tomtom 6.010 and it works perfectly on Xda Orbit.
Settings in Orbit
Program GPS: Com 4
Hardware GPS: None, baud rate 9600
Tick Manage GPS Automatically
Settings in tomtom
Select "Other NMEA GPS Receiver" 9600 on Com 4.
Have you been to the Tomtom options>preferences>GPS>configure yet? maybe that's your problem ??
Mine is set to com 4 by default in the prefs and In built GPS in the TomTom settings. Hope it helps.
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Also bear in mind that the program will take about 30 secs to recognize the built in GPS and then it will take around 45 secs to get a signal outside so give it time too
astrodemoniac said:
Have you been to the Tomtom options>preferences>GPS>configure yet? maybe that's your problem ??
Mine is set to com 4 by default in the prefs and In built GPS in the TomTom settings. Hope it helps.
EDIT:
Also bear in mind that the program will take about 30 secs to recognize the built in GPS and then it will take around 45 secs to get a signal outside so give it time too
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With 6.02 it takes about 10 seconds for a cold start to get a lock and 3 seconds for a hot start. It uses the QuickGPS files! Mine has usually got a fix by the time I've loaded TomTom and opened the satelite info page!
Phil
I have :
Software tab : port : com4
hardware tab : port not set, speed 4800 bauds
Acces tab : select the item
These are the settings with were set when I bouth the device.
KR, Imer
low405 said:
With 6.02 it takes about 10 seconds for a cold start to get a lock and 3 seconds for a hot start. It uses the QuickGPS files! Mine has usually got a fix by the time I've loaded TomTom and opened the satelite info page!
Phil
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QuickGPS files ?????
Quick GPS is an application on the HTC Artemis and MDA-C-III (Not too sure about the Orbit as I haven't had a chance to mess around with one yet).
It uses the internet or GPRS connection to download a tiny database every 72 hours to speed up the GPS signal acquisition. It is in program files on the device if you have one - Mike
Got It working in the end Couple of Restarts got it going. and to clarify the orbit does Have the Quick GPS aplication, thank you all for your Help
Hi all,
Seems what ever i do my tomtom6 cant find my built in gps. Try'd to set it to com port 4 ect. but nothing Any have more sugestions?
If so thx already.
6Tom9 said:
Hi all,
Seems what ever i do my tomtom6 cant find my built in gps. Try'd to set it to com port 4 ect. but nothing Any have more sugestions?
If so thx already.
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First, make sure your Quick GPS is up to date ( although I'm not really sure just how effective quick gps is, I'm sure I've had a signal without updating in about the same amount of time)
On your MDA, go to Settings/Sytem/GPS.
Click on GPS and in Programs tab, set GPS program port to 'COM4'
Click Hardware tab, set GPS hardware port to '(None)', and set Baud rate to
'4800'.
Click Access tab, tick box for 'Manage GPS automatically (recommended)'
Load Tomtom and go into the GPS Receiver configure screen. Select Other NMEA GPS receiver. Next screen, slide GPS baud rate to 4800 if it isn't already at that. Click done. Next screen, highlight COM4 if it isn't already highlighted, then click on COM4 and it'll bring you to the next screen which shows your current GPS Status.
Make sure you are outside to get a signal. It can take anything from 2 minutes or longer. Mine rarely gets a signal before 2 minutes and sometimes much longer. Some people are very lucky and manage to get a signal within a few seconds, though I've no idea how they manage that.
Also, I've just replaced Navigator 6 with Navigator 7 which is essentially the same but with some different colours, splash screen and one or two additions in the change preferences menus. However, it has a new feature in the GPS Receiver screen which might be useful. It now has Built-in GPS receiver and there seems to be nothing to set after clicking on that. I'm going to go test it now, see if it's any faster or works at all.
I DID IT YAYEE!!
For HTC TOUCH HD TOMTOM6 i chose 9600 and com2 and its now working.
In mobiles setting i turned all com to none..
cheers!!
Roman5 said:
First, make sure your Quick GPS is up to date ( although I'm not really sure just how effective quick gps is, I'm sure I've had a signal without updating in about the same amount of time)
On your MDA, go to Settings/Sytem/GPS.
Click on GPS and in Programs tab, set GPS program port to 'COM4'
Click Hardware tab, set GPS hardware port to '(None)', and set Baud rate to
'4800'.
Click Access tab, tick box for 'Manage GPS automatically (recommended)'
Load Tomtom and go into the GPS Receiver configure screen. Select Other NMEA GPS receiver. Next screen, slide GPS baud rate to 4800 if it isn't already at that. Click done. Next screen, highlight COM4 if it isn't already highlighted, then click on COM4 and it'll bring you to the next screen which shows your current GPS Status.
Make sure you are outside to get a signal. It can take anything from 2 minutes or longer. Mine rarely gets a signal before 2 minutes and sometimes much longer. Some people are very lucky and manage to get a signal within a few seconds, though I've no idea how they manage that.
Also, I've just replaced Navigator 6 with Navigator 7 which is essentially the same but with some different colours, splash screen and one or two additions in the change preferences menus. However, it has a new feature in the GPS Receiver screen which might be useful. It now has Built-in GPS receiver and there seems to be nothing to set after clicking on that. I'm going to go test it now, see if it's any faster or works at all.
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Hi,
I got Quick GPS updated through Activesync
in Settings/System, I have External GPS... not GPS
In External GPS, I did what you suggested.
Same with TT too
I am still not able to get a lock.
It still get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal..."
What more can I try?
Do I need an external antenna?
--Maddu
Alright,
As most of you have already noticed some GPS program's just dont work on the P3300... odd? yes but it can be explained.
The GPS unit wich is used in the HTC p3300 uses COM4 to communicate, 4800 buadrate, all working nicely. BUT... the p3300 doesnt seem to set the EV_RXCHAR flag, wicht is used by most common COM handlers, this flag indicates there is new data in the receive buffer.
Because most hobby projects use common COM handlers, they think they'r not receiving any data at all and will do nothing.
Some say solving this is possible by using Franson GPSGate.
I have not yet try'd this because im trying to find something freeware. and the franson version is limited to 14 days.
As it seems the free progam JAL portsplitter (recommended bij GPS Tuner) creates a new comport and can be set to redirect the data from the GPS to other apps, but now WITH the EV_RXCHAR flags set.
Dear sir,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe support.
Regarding your query, this handset was designed to work with, specifically, TomTom and other highend programs, as such this not a flaw or known issue but rather a feature of the device.
As such there will be no solution or update to address this.
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So HTC wil not be changing the softwarez for this....
Its not a bug... it's a feature
Update:
I have contacted HTC on the issue because the P3300 is about the only device that has this issue, also asked about the upcoming ROM update and if it is fixed.
I hope the PortSplitter i posted solves most issues for now.
The iMate pda-n suffers from exactly the same fault - interesting find though all the same thanks
Mike
!!!
This is a very serius "about"
Update in startpost
Unfortunatelly it does not work on my HTC P3300... I choose in Input "GPS Port" but in the output it doesn't have any choice... I tried to add i vurtual port but when i choose add nothing happen...
Hi guys,
I know it has been a very long time since this topic was updated, but I was wondering if anyone knows a tool that is able to change the sirf settings. I used to have a pda with a bluetooth gps receiver and I had a program that could change a lot more than just the refresh rate. There were options that could actually harm the device if set up the wrong way.
I was wondering if the stated missing feature is part of the gps chipset and can be modified or added or is it part of the entire system and can't be altered?
Regards
Sebastian
Hi,
has anyone sucessfully turned on Static Navigation? With beta-Versions for editors it was possible with MMSirf, but with Final versions it isn't, (this told me a mod of pocketnavigation)...
But it is only under 2,5kmh not 4 kmh as with most devices...
But its a pity, though...
Stefan
SurfaceCleanerZ said:
Hi,
has anyone sucessfully turned on Static Navigation? ...
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Static navigation is "On" by default!
Currently there is no solution to switch it to "Off", isn't it?
ok, I made a mistake: I want to go geocaching and so I want to get location data while standing still!
Stefan
Hello,
gives news with GPS- Programming ? I am also interrest on a solution to switch off sn on a artemis.
old Thread, so i not sure someone interrest.
Yes, i got it, sure.
it is possible to deactivate GPS SN on a artemis.
now he display continues gps coordinates also in slow speed < 2.5 kmh.
In Bootloader , mtty and SirfDemo.
is someone interested then i can give some information.
So it looks possible to Programm something on the sirf.
Sorry for my English.
Hi,
very cool!
How did you get this?
regards,
Stefan
well, so i have do some test and its working.
so i have modify 3 mda C3 and 1 p3300.
sn are off on all 4 units .
only if you remove the Accu the it will be back.
the problem is its working not on all PC.
on one old 1Ghz athlon with a usb 1.1 ist working. on my new PC its not working. Sirfdemo hangs up wenn SIRF goes into Binary Sirfmod.
i think the binary data crash the usb port.
it looks like the bitclock of the serial sirfdata is not 100% ok.
Step by step
dissable activ sync UsbConnection
on artemis go ito Bootloader and connect to the usb
on pc start mtty.exe ,select ( Port \\.\WCEUSBH001)
(I use mtty multiport usb v0.01)
Press Return, a Cmd comes on Screen
now enter GPSRouting 57600
now starts some output ,looks like NMEA
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,$GPGGA,132149.693,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000*56
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,$GPGGA,132150.693,,,,,0,00,,,M,0.0,M,,0000*5E
.....
close mtty
now install sirfdemo (i use 3.87) on the PC
( gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25575)
edit the sirfdemo.ini
-[DataSrc]
-Src=0
-SerPort=\\.\WCEUSBSH001
-SerBaud=57600
and save it
open sifdemo
on setup/target select GSWLT3.... and dissable. autodetection
now press the connect button.
after some sec. you will see one or more lines in the left (debug view, and errors in the right window.
now enter action menue and press switch to sirf
its works so you will only see some in the error window and no new line in the left window.
now sel. navigation menue and press static navigation, sel. Dissable and press set.
after some sec you will see an entry in the response window
wenn not retry it.
it is done then sel action menue and press switch to NMEA
a option menue comes up. you must change baudrate to 57600 !!
then press ok
now close sirfdemo.
open mtty
if you see now line by line NMEA log so it is ok, if you will see endless charters
so the switch back to NMEA are not ok. ---- Power off all and restart.
now reset the artemis and test the gps.
!!! removing the accu will reset the new setting.
i am not sure it was possible to destroy something with this.
so i have testing many many time and always is fine after removing the accu.
sorry for my english.
Hi,
one question:
"now install sirfdemo"
where PC oder PDA?
An Link to mtty would be nice!
Thanks for your HowTo!
btw: Ich denke eine dt. Anleitung dürfte für die meisten einfacher sein und ausreichen. Stell die doch zusätzlich unten an...
nema: You mean NMEA!
It is very interesting that you get it working, because prior Trials told, that the pin for this of the chip is not connected.
regards,
Stefan
Did anyone made any permanent solution SN (static nav)? I tend to remove my battery quite often due to SD and SIM cards inside.
It would be great if someone could write and app which would manage to connect to the GPS chipset from inside WM5/6 and change the SN, even if that would be a temporary solution. I could run the tweak when i go Geocaching.
Hope to hear some good news soon,
Bushman
i have a big problem with my artemis...
i updated the B&B 3.7 rom...and tomtom dont take signal from sat...
i updated the touch fluo rom...and tomtom dont take signal
i downgraded to original italian rom...and tomtom dont take signal
so i dont know what is the problem!!
when i bought my artemis tomtom was already installed in the phone (not sda)
so i downloaded the Cab from p2p and used it...it works in every way exept gps signal
i think its a problem of tomtom because with any rom i dont recive any response from sat! on tomtom.it site i cant download any Cab to install on phone..only tomtom home but i already have it on the DVD
anyone can help me or give me an advise?
Can you receive a signal at all? Is it greyed out or nothing?
When configuring GPS Hardware. Select another NMEA wired at 4800baud on COM4.
Shand359 said:
Can you receive a signal at all? Is it greyed out or nothing?
When configuring GPS Hardware. Select another NMEA wired at 4800baud on COM4.
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I always set mine to 9600 baud - for some reason it works better for me on my t-mobile mda iii
Shand359 said:
Can you receive a signal at all? Is it greyed out or nothing?
When configuring GPS Hardware. Select another NMEA wired at 4800baud on COM4.
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com 4 is the one i set in gps setting right? "data port" or "hardware port"? because the second one i dont have in tomtom port list
Furbious said:
I always set mine to 9600 baud - for some reason it works better for me on my t-mobile mda iii
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ok...i have some signal now thx very much ^^ i feel like a stupid
when u set at 9600 baud...u modified the one in gps setting too?
Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Thanks in advance,
Luigi
Of course it is usable in car. I had the p3300 gps (now the p3600 trinity gps). both devices have very good signal. So no external gps recommended.
Luigi2007 said:
Hello,
I was planning to buy the HTC P3300 one of the main reasons is the build in GPS (which I want to use in my car). Is the build in GPS good enough to use in a car? I start having doubts when I saw a package offered with a external gps as well?
Luigi
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Yep, works totally great. The Orbit has a very good GPS receiver, v. good at receiving signals, and the units volume level make it equally good for hearing the voices. I've used prevoius PDA's with an external GPS, but the Orbit does just as good, without all the hassle of extra leads.
GPS settings
Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
Thanks in advance
Tingusz said:
Can anyone help me?? i have got the Artemis since 4 weeks, TomTom was pre-installed and worked actually, but couldn't find some maps for it. Therefore I removed the app and installed iGo 2006 and some other GPS apps. Now I cannot find TomTom and all the other apps throwing me the same "cannot find GPS receiver" message. Is there something wrong with the TomTom removing or there is some way I can tune the receiver to answer for the other apps.
Thanks in advance
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In tomtom you have to select the Internal GPS receiver.
serch for settings in the other apps where you can select the GPS receiver.
It is connected to COM4 by default.
Yes, in TomTom you must go to the menu screen, select 'Change Preferences' then select 'Show GPS Status' then select the 'Configure' tab. Once your there select look for an option for 'Built In GPS Receiver' if it is there your done, if not you need to select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver' set the GPS Baud Rate to 4800 then select the COM Port your GPS is on, usually COM4 by default.
Hi
I have the same problem, I've checked all the settings (tomtom and device)and they're correct but still Tomtom says no gps device.
I've just hard reset my device, is there anything I need to do?
I have a xda orbit.
edit: sorted, just me being stupid (as always)
Try with this settings
Try your mobile under system settings you can find GPS icon.
Check GPS program port is COM4 and Hardware port is COM3 with baud rate 4800 selected. Access tab click Manage GPS automatically
Once these settings are same as above try with your GPS software (TOMTOM or any other) with the GPS port as COM4 selected.
Please let me know if it works