Is Cingular 8525 == Hermes? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi,
I'm looking into buying Cingular 8525 and unlocking it. I don't see Cingular 8525 written in description for this forum so I'm not sure if it's right place to ask questions.
Here is questions.
1. If I unlock the phone and then download and install official ATT WM6 upgrade, will it relock the phone?
2. Is it ok to use HTC WWE ROM on my phone or it might not work becouse of original branding?

Yes the Cingular/AT&T 8525 is the Hermes.
As for unlocking.. Good luck.. I just got mine 3 weeks ago and discovered that it had already been upgraded to a boot loader that can not be unlocked at this time.
I don't think upgrading the rom to WM6 will re lock the phone.
Not sue on the second part about the WWE rom.

yes it is. I have one.
1. no it won't relock the phone. But read mr vanx guide and wiki before unlock and upgrade. also it is adviced that you install hardspl 2.10 or above.
2. HTC WWE ROM will work only issue might come to you is the keyboard layout which can be fixed if you do little search.

artisticcheese said:
Hi,
I'm looking into buying Cingular 8525 and unlocking it. I don't see Cingular 8525 written in description for this forum so I'm not sure if it's right place to ask questions.
Here is questions.
1. If I unlock the phone and then download and install official ATT WM6 upgrade, will it relock the phone?
2. Is it ok to use HTC WWE ROM on my phone or it might not work becouse of original branding?
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8525 equals Hermes. Unlocking your device may void any warranty you have. You should only use ROMs made for the Hermes which you will find in this forum.

keitht said:
8525 equals Hermes. Unlocking your device may void any warranty you have. You should only use ROMs made for the Hermes which you will find in this forum.
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Agree with all of the above comments, with the exception of this one... Loading a non OEM rom, WILL void your warranty... However, many members have been able to successfully reflash with an OEM rom before taking it back to the providers and having any warranty action performed... So, if you need to have your device repaired under the terms of your warranty, you would need to reflash to the OEM version or they will send it back to you unrepaired...
The needed file for fixing the keyboard translation issue is called Cingular Keyboard Fix... a simple google search on this forum should locate it for you... Or you can install another application called "Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool v1.1 (recommended)... In this tool, you can choose your keyboard layout as Cingular...

"Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool" would have been hard to find with a Typo...^^
but please READ MR VANX GUIDE!!! PLEASE!!!

This post will also lead you to all the info you'll need about locking/unlocking, flashing ROM's, etc.
Cheers,

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!!!NO!!! WM6 Update from T-Mobile Germany....

[email protected]
i have bad news. I called T-Mobile today to ask if there would be an Update for the MDA Compact 3. The answer was : NO, there will be no Update...
Shoking... thats not a good answer.
BUT!!
I read that it would be possible to use the O2 Rom or the official HTC ROM if i CID Unlock my device. I would pay the 28€ to imei-check if this is true..
Can anyone tell me if this will really work?? Does this work without other hacking of the device??
You don't need to CID unlock to upgrade to WM6.
Check the upgrading forum..
Relax, i already wrote twice and called once. 3 different people (of course) and 3 different answers.
1: it will come arround june/july
2: they dont know when it will come exactly
3: its not planned at all
blablabla
@ hollinshead got a link for me?
Download the ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308164
Instructions for how to update / tools needed are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299154
Make sure you install enablerapi.cab before else you'll end up with a bricked MDA and have to restore it through bootloader!
Bootloader!
How can i recover by bootloader? i have a portuguese rom! Please help me!!!
YES!
I also called T-Mobile Germany (Business Line), and they told me that they're going to release WM6 in the beginning of June.
Regards,
Oliver

AT&T/Cingular 8525 Mobile 6

Hi, I am not that familiar with windows mobile pocket pcs, i am about to buy a cingular 8525 / at&t 8525, one of the two and i don't know if it will be locked or unlocked ( i will go by the best deal )... if its locked, can I upgrade it to Windows Mobile 6 and in the process of upgrading it and having a new rom, will it automatically get unlocked?
I am not sure but i believe that there is a rom, a radio and a bootloader, my question is that out of these three, which needs to be modified in order to unlock the phone? if its the rom... then i'm pretty sure upgrading it to mobile 6 will automatically unlock it...
if you can upgrade it mobile 6, then how? which rom do i need? do i need to change my bootloader to some universal edition, if so, is there any danger in doing that? how will the software distinguish between the hermes and the 8525? ( hermes has a 3g vga camera, 8525 does not )...
can someone please clarify?
Please visit WiKi page or read.....
encryptedmaniac said:
Hi, I am not that familiar with windows mobile pocket pcs, i am about to buy a cingular 8525 / at&t 8525, one of the two and i don't know if it will be locked or unlocked ( i will go by the best deal )... if its locked, can I upgrade it to Windows Mobile 6 and in the process of upgrading it and having a new rom, will it automatically get unlocked?
I am not sure but i believe that there is a rom, a radio and a bootloader, my question is that out of these three, which needs to be modified in order to unlock the phone? if its the rom... then i'm pretty sure upgrading it to mobile 6 will automatically unlock it...
if you can upgrade it mobile 6, then how? which rom do i need? do i need to change my bootloader to some universal edition, if so, is there any danger in doing that? how will the software distinguish between the hermes and the 8525? ( hermes has a 3g vga camera, 8525 does not )...
can someone please clarify?
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The WiKi refers you to how to:
SIM Unlock it
CID Unlock it
upgrade your Bootloader, IPL/SPL, Radio, and ROM
so please, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
We can lead you to the water, but we can't help you drink it. That you have to learn on your own. All the resources are there for you, its up to you to apply them and use them.

Unlocking HTC TYTN 2

I just recently Purchased a HTC TYTN from Rogers, now i am having problems, how easy it to unlock this phone by hardware was reading about unlocking steps etc. how to do it with the softwares.
Or I bumped into a website http://www.123Unlocking.net unlocking by IMEI i called them they said they give me code and enter it in.
What are plus and negative what way should i go, i dont really want to break my phone, i am not that much of a tech savy guy please give me your input thanks!
Pof way is dead easy mate
what's even easier is calling your service provider, telling them you're going overseas, and asking for the code
Hello,
I would like to unlock my vodafone 1615 and I saw you method to do it. But I read that I need the SPL 1.0 Olipof version. Now in my Kaiser I have the SPL 3.28. I would like to know if I can unlock my kaiser with this SPL version or I need to install before the SPL 1.0 Olipof version. Thank you in advance.
seridem said:
Hello,
I would like to unlock my vodafone 1615 and I saw you method to do it. But I read that I need the SPL 1.0 Olipof version. Now in my Kaiser I have the SPL 3.28. I would like to know if I can unlock my kaiser with this SPL version or I need to install before the SPL 1.0 Olipof version. Thank you in advance.
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SPL 1.0 Olipof is a version of hard spl, you flash that to your device before doing the sim unlock.
Use the unlocker in this thread, by memory it does the whole lot, hard spl, and sim unlock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
once you have done the unlock, i would then upgrade the radio rom to one of the recent ones, then update hard spl to a recent one, then update the rom to a wm6.1 rom. You need to start reading through the kaiser forum and wiki both of you.
Use that link for the sim unlock though, definately the easiest, i did it the other day on my replacement phone.

Newbie - all you need to know about your device

Ok, noobs. All these information you could get by using the search button or Google (which you never do). So, in order to keep the thread clean from every kind of question, I’ve compiled some answers for you.
HTC Cavalier comes in three variants: HTC S630 – Europe & USA model (English only), Dopod C730 – Asian model (bilingual, Chinese and English) and Softbank 02HT – Japanese model (bilingual, Japanese and English).
All Windows Mobile Smartphones by default are application locked, that means that you have to unlock you phone in order to install an application (in most cases free apps) from developers. Problem has to do something with a certificate that costs a lot (more than 400$). To do the application unlock go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398945
and please read all the instructions.
There’s no free SIM unlock, so if you want to SIM unlock your device check the web.
There is a CID unlock. With CID unlock you can use HTC Rom on Dopod or Softbank device and vice-versa; also you can use developer made Roms for your devices, in other words cooked Roms.
There are two kind of CID unlock: the real CID unlock – which unlocks your device for real and it is visible if you send your device for repair (it voids your warranty) and the second kind is HardSPL. HardSPL makes your device think that is CID unlocked but in fact it is not (also HardSPL helps you when the issue of Bad Blocks appears), so in other words you don’t void your warranty (if you have one left).
Now, for Cavalier there’s a HardSPL which you can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398945
please read all the instructions and especially the thread, as there are a lot of solutions for the problems that you might encounter
Always, after the HardSPL check your device through Mtty.
Mtty.exe is kind of terminal emulation software, which is used to communicate to serial and/or USB enabled devices. On the HTC devices it enables you to issue a selection of commands that allow you to read the status of some of the components, to clear the bootloader flags, to format the internal flashdisk, remove bad blocks etc etc. (this program should of course be used with precautions as you could mess your bootloader).
Most of the information regarding mtty comes from Hermes thread and WIKI (most of the commands are same for PPC and Smartphone), get it here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader
Mtty is good against bad blocks as you could see from cruzzmz topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428589
Now there is a unofficial WM6.1 for Cavalier and credit goes to cruzzmz, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425272
There's also a WM6.5 ROM, thanks to ookba: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520756
There is a tutorial how unbrick your Cavalier, again thaks to ookba: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540478
There are a lot of applications and games that work with Cavalier and don’t forget that you can find a lot of freeware which are very nice (keep in mind that most of Excalibur apps works also on Cavalier so don’t forget to check Excalibur thread from time to time).
If you want to cook your own ROM, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425567
For all other questions, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=415&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cavalier or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893
Cheers
good job dude
well done
thank you man ,
very useful information
Thank You, very very usefull...
smartman
Just for info of cost--u can unlock any htc any network for $20
timepassman said:
Just for info of cost--u can unlock any htc any network for $20
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and can you tell me where?how?
Thanks ,really good work !!Helping a lot!!!
Does anyone have news about free sim unlock this phone??

New T Mobile NLD Rom Update

Here is the link to the new MDA Compact IV Rom from T Mobile in NLD ver 1.93.1142.nld radio 1.0025.16
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
And STILL not available from T-Mobile UK!
What's the changes? Worth flashing? I use Tmobile but never did any of their roms, got an unbranded device...
Richard van der horst said:
Here is the link to the new MDA Compact IV Rom from T Mobile in NLD ver 1.93.1142.nld radio 1.0025.16
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
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seeing as you use a T-mobile MDA IV NL like I do, can you tell me what the original HardSPL is ?
I need to reflash mine so I can send it back for repairs (bluetooth not working properly anymore), I flashed the above mentioned rom using the quick method (copy to internal storage) so I now have an original T-mobile rom and radio but the HardSPL still is not original.
Technically it should not matter for warranty but I would rather not take any risks and also restore the HardSPL, I just have no idea which one it is (1.34, 1.35, 1.93 from the SPL thread here on xda ?)
tismij said:
seeing as you use a T-mobile MDA IV NL like I do, can you tell me what the original HardSPL is ?
I need to reflash mine so I can send it back for repairs (bluetooth not working properly anymore), I flashed the above mentioned rom using the quick method (copy to internal storage) so I now have an original T-mobile rom and radio but the HardSPL still is not original.
Technically it should not matter for warranty but I would rather not take any risks and also restore the HardSPL, I just have no idea which one it is (1.34, 1.35, 1.93 from the SPL thread here on xda ?)
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Restoring your MDA IV back to tmobile defaults is a bit tricky. You beter use the new rom update, a new SPL should be in the ROM (in the Chech version it was). I used the Chech ROM to resore my tmobile picture and used SPL 1.37, ROM 1.37 and radio 1.00.25.03. All of these can be found in the forum.
Riel said:
What's the changes? Worth flashing? I use Tmobile but never did any of their roms, got an unbranded device...
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Well,
I've used custom roms all the way from dutty's to leo's... LAst week i've flashed the new t-mobile rom. I must say it is very stable and with a few tweaks it is a very good rom.
I did this flash because always with a custom rom there was something i didn't like or didn't work. The feeling i have from this rom (I'm also on the t-mo network of course) is that this one must be tested with the best settings and the best radio for this network... because i need an stable phone.
bdanen said:
Restoring your MDA IV back to tmobile defaults is a bit tricky. You beter use the new rom update, a new SPL should be in the ROM (in the Chech version it was). I used the Chech ROM to resore my tmobile picture and used SPL 1.37, ROM 1.37 and radio 1.00.25.03. All of these can be found in the forum.
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so the Chech ROM also replaced your HardSPL, which you then replaced again with SPL 1.37 ?
(why replace the HardSPL again ?)
I guess I will round up a windows PC and reflash using the the rom update .exe and see if my HardSPL gets replaced.
(I kind of asumed the HardSPL never gets updated with a rom update, hence my confusion)
Shame there isnt a way to update the HardSPL without a windows PC
Should the HardSPL not get replaced by the update I can safely use the 1.37 version from xda ?
I am useing this rom at the moment and it is very good and very stable and very fast rom.
With other roms i had problems that my phone wouldn't wakeup anymore and needed to softreset it. With this rom so far i do not have the problem.
Ofcause i only use it for 2 days so far but i will let you know how it will be after a while. For the problem that the phone does not wakeup anymore with other roms i had that problem after 1 day already so i think the t-mobile diamond is differend then the real HTC diamond.
Only the t-mobile colors are terrible but there are enough themes and skins to change it to what you want.
Jan
feestbeest said:
I am useing this rom at the moment and it is very good and very stable and very fast rom.
With other roms i had problems that my phone wouldn't wakeup anymore and needed to softreset it. With this rom so far i do not have the problem.
Ofcause i only use it for 2 days so far but i will let you know how it will be after a while. For the problem that the phone does not wakeup anymore with other roms i had that problem after 1 day already so i think the t-mobile diamond is differend then the real HTC diamond.
Only the t-mobile colors are terrible but there are enough themes and skins to change it to what you want.
Jan
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Did your HardSPL get updated too when you updated your rom ?
If no which HardSPL do you have now (if it is the original that is) ?
I run 1.40 olinex, it says wrong device ID.
?
I have original DIamond, is that problem?
I made a new rom which will work on DIAMxxxxx (all) diamonds.
It's full 143mb (including SPL and RADIO, so Stock, only diam200 is removed).
IF interested I put online. Made with Olinex nbh thing,
same problem here
Riel said:
I run 1.40 olinex, it says wrong device ID.
?
I have original DIamond, is that problem?
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Same for me
This ROM will fix that. Please, use it if you NEED it to save my bandwidth
http://www.rielity.nl/RTC/RUU_signed.exe
(Its sfx-exe, no worries, not many people have 7z)
Riel said:
This ROM will fix that. Please, use it if you NEED it to save my bandwidth
http://www.rielity.nl/RTC/RUU_signed.exe
(Its sfx-exe, no worries, not many people have 7z)
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Sounds great. So this includes a stock signed spl?
It is 100% the same rom, and you will not get the Device_id error.
T-mobile service-desk WILL see this is not original T-mobile rom I think because ROM name is not the same (T-mobile instead of 1.93.blabal).
sms problem
Help, I flashed this new t-mobile ROM and now I an't send SMS. They stay in postvak uit. In tried flashing another radio and settings in comm manager. But nothing happends.
Try this, I had the same problem with several other roms.
Thank you very much. I tried it and after a softreset it is possible to send SMS now.
REmoved the rom.
It's really too slow
Sorry to bump this one, but does the t mobile NL rom update the SPL to stock?

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