Hello.
I have just got my first cell: the tmobile dash. I have done some research and am under the impression that it is acually the branded term for the Excalibur. Alright; so it started when I wanted to throw in a microsd card. I looked around for the biggest one I could find (8gig) but have heard a few rather conflicting blurbs about the high end microsd cards in this paticular cell. Simple question: will it support it? I have also heard that you have to have windows mobile 6 or some sort of generic not-branded ROM in order to use them. I do have windows mobile 6... so do I still need to do the steps outlined in the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327757
? If so its not a problem, but I dont want to go though all of that just to get back to square one with the thing. Another thing though: I custom build all my pc's and format all my laptops first thing so I dont have to put up with all the crap companies like to put on my stuff. So is this a similer thing? If it is that would be a reasen to go though with it in itself.
So my second question would be, are there any benifites to 'formatting' my cell with this unbranded ROM other then being able to upgrade the OS? Im certanly not computer illierarate, but as far as cells go I am completly lost. What programs will I need to reinstall, and which ones will be preinstalled?
And finally, will any of this conflict with the service I get from tmobile? Like I said I have no idea how cells work and the protocols and subscriptions, so I wouldnt know. Would it for example screw with the internet service I would like to subscribe to?
Oh, one more thing, WHERE IS NOTEPAD?? I was trying to jott somthing down on my phone today, but could not find any sort of notepad type application. I found Word, but I cant create documents with it (only edit I guess)...
Thanks for your time
Well, on WM5, my Excalibur supported 2gb micro sd cards. On WM6, it happily supports a 4gb micro sdhc card. I have read that it does support higher capacity than that also.
In terms of formatting, I think I could only format the SDHC card FAT32. The non HC card could be formatted FAT or FAT32.
The FAT format can make a difference to some apps working or otherwise, I have heard, but none that I have used have had a problem.
Cheers.
One other point, the only reason I went from WM5 to WM6 was to enable SDHC. I can have Route 66 (with 3 maps) and plenty of music on a 4gb card. I just found 2gb a bit limiting.
Just wish I could sort out the re-booting loop issue with the sdhc card installed!
Good luck.
I have a original HTC branded Excalibur, and it supports my 8GB micro SDHC card.
As long as you change the rom from the T-mobile branded to the Rogers or the HTC rom you will be just fine. I have a 6gb SDHC card on the latest HTC rom.
Im downloading the "NEW HTC ROM!! HTC_WWE_1.33.422.1_4.1.13.51_03.07.90_Ship.exe" right now. I guess this will make it faster and have better signal strength. Does this replace windows mobile? Can I still develop for the compact framework, and use other microsoft programs on it?
Also, do I still have to go though the unlock steps in the aforementiond thread?
So doing this will not affect my plan with tmobile at all and I can still do things like call people and send text messages?
Thanks for all of your help.
NorseLaQuet said:
Im downloading the "NEW HTC ROM!! HTC_WWE_1.33.422.1_4.1.13.51_03.07.90_Ship.exe" right now. I guess this will make it faster and have better signal strength. Does this replace windows mobile? Can I still develop for the compact framework, and use other microsoft programs on it?
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Yes it should run faster, slightly more stable and will enable SDHC cards. It is Windows Mobile 6, the same thing you can install from T-mobile, only more updated with better features and no t-mobile branding (logos etc...)
NorseLaQuet said:
Also, do I still have to go though the unlock steps in the aforementiond thread?
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Yes. If you have problems with the install I'd read the thread for solutions, every problem has a solution and they are all on that thread.
NorseLaQuet said:
So doing this will not affect my plan with tmobile at all and I can still do things like call people and send text messages?
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Yep. You'll need to reconfigure you're MMS, internet and text settings when complete. You can get these settings with a search on this board or google. A google search should link you to the t-mobile settings tool on their website for just such settings.
It will be a lot of time consuming work to get your rom changed, all the programs reinstalled, and the phone tweaked just the way you like it, but I guarantee you that ultimately you'll be extremely pleased you did.
OK. I ran the unlocker, then the bat file, and the screen went black. But now it cannot connect to the phone. the screen is still black and it is connected to the USB cabel, but I cant load active sync and the ROM updater is giving me an error 260 connection problem... Im searching the forums now franticly, but it would be nice if sombody can post a quick fix right here.
thanks
Ok. I removed the battery, restarted and tried again. Now its all setup and configured and still calls people
Now; are there any links to a place where there is a list of good programs to put on my phone? And will an 8gig microSD card work on it?
Thanks
NorseLaQuet said:
Ok. I removed the battery, restarted and tried again. Now its all setup and configured and still calls people
Now; are there any links to a place where there is a list of good programs to put on my phone? And will an 8gig microSD card work on it?
Thanks
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Did you simply restart your phone or did you actually get the rom successfully installed?
Lol, after I restarted I tried again. This time it came up with a white screen, and I manually ran some program in the root of the phone directory. Then I was able to install the ROM just fine.
I like the new colors, and it definitly is faster and less cluttered then before. There are some minor things like being able to scroll with the buttons on the side, and a few other nice things that make it feel alot easier to use then before. My question is why companies like tmobile dont make it easy to do this kind of stuff....
Another question is where did these roms come from? Did they come right from the manufacturer, or were they leaked?
8gb works fine for me. Curious on 16gb now..........
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this will only work ONE time within a 6 month period as they only allow you to change it once within 6 months. There customer services is utter crap. Just so you know as now you have changed yours you wont be able to change it again for another 6 months no matter what.
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You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...
You know, I just call them and they add the new device code into the licensing for my product code. Have changed 4 times in the last three months. No Issues, Explained my problem, I was transferred and the gentleman did while at I was on phone.
Percz said:
You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...
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Hint ppplease...
eagle 1 said:
You know, I just call them and they add the new device code into the licensing for my product code. Have changed 4 times in the last three months. No Issues, Explained my problem, I was transferred and the gentleman did while at I was on phone.
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What number did you call?
I just ordered TomTom 6 for my softbank, and this subject concerns me. Like a lot of you here, I like to flash the ROM on my phone when a new one comes out. What should I do to keep from being locked out of software that I paid for to use in case my Device ID changes after I flash to another ROM? Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
Percz said:
You know, there are "unoffical patches" for this reason...
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There are for the maps but not for the "tomtom plus " services as it connects to there web servers for traffic and speed scamera updates.
i have just got tomtom 6 mobile, does it need installed on a blank memory card or can i just make a folder on my storage card callled tomtom and drop the stuff into it, i ask coz i have tryed this and i couldnt get the software to install.
i second the fact that their customer service is ass!! not got any response!!! is there anyone that can help me here?
thanks in advance
kman79 said:
I just ordered TomTom 6 for my softbank, and this subject concerns me. Like a lot of you here, I like to flash the ROM on my phone when a new one comes out. What should I do to keep from being locked out of software that I paid for to use in case my Device ID changes after I flash to another ROM? Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
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ANY help out there on this?
It seems like there is a choice: Download Tomtom traffic / speed camera and NEVER flash your device again, OR forget about Tomtom traffic / speed camera and FLASH happily forever.
I'm still not decided! I woulda thought there was a way by now to keep your device code after flashing a new ROM but the silence out there seems to suggest that there isn't!
Damnnnnnnnnnnn it!!!!
My device code just changed over night for no reason at all! Now Tomtom thinks I have a new phone and doesn't let me use the speed camera and John Cleese voice I paid for twice!!!
It'd be cheaper just to get a speeding ticket!!!!
bennec83 said:
i have just got tomtom 6 mobile, does it need installed on a blank memory card or can i just make a folder on my storage card callled tomtom and drop the stuff into it, i ask coz i have tryed this and i couldnt get the software to install.
i second the fact that their customer service is ass!! not got any response!!! is there anyone that can help me here?
thanks in advance
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Just run the installation program from the pc and it will install automatically
the maps need to be in the storage card as they are, for example if you have a uk & ireland map that must be in \storage card\uk and ireland map( or whatever the map is called ) folder.
The software for tomtom should install onto the device. Then simply run it and then activate your maps
You can also "cut" the Navigator folder out of "My programs" directory on the hermes and paste on SD card. You just have to send a shortcut to your "Start Menu" folder in the windows directory. Did this with Resco explorer 2007, Works flawlessly. A little bit extra time to start up but not enough to worry about.
Cheers...
Can someone explain how it is that I don't need any activation code for the maps on my Tomtom?
My Tomtom came on a memory card when I bought the phone on ebay. Once installed on the phone all the maps work fine (no activation needed), even if I flash the ROM and thus change the device code.
When the device code changes, the only thing that goes is Tomtom plus services, like downloaded stuff and Traffic.
Explanation anyone?
Okay so i ordered and received a Daxian T32 phone. This phone is great in all, no problems except for the wifi not working. It has it built in phone it has been disabled and only a wifi firmware update will enable it and whenever that will be out and i dont want to wait. Is there anyway to enable it? Tronicvasion were i got it from said that there might be a hack for it i guess. I was wondering do anyone have any info on this. Thanks.
thepindoctor said:
Okay so i ordered and received a Daxian T32 phone. This phone is great in all, no problems except for the wifi not working. It has it built in phone it has been disabled and only a wifi firmware update will enable it and whenever that will be out and i dont want to wait. Is there anyway to enable it? Tronicvasion were i got it from said that there might be a hack for it i guess. I was wondering do anyone have any info on this. Thanks.
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I have heard that there is a hack for it, but haven't been able to find it anywhere. It's probably all over the Chinese forums...in Chinese....
daxian
hi folks!
i got an daxian x999 (which is the same as your t32) and i´m desperatly trying to dump the rom, because i want to modify or even replace it!
if u got to know somethings about hacks or tweaks, please tell me about it!
if someone can tweak it, maybe he even can dump the rom
thanx in advance
chuckbert
p.s.
to have wifi in my phone would be quite cool, too
Hello,
i have the x999+ with working wifi.
If it would be possible to read out my rom. could this be helpfull for you?
michael
rom!
sure it would be helpful... if it would be possible!
i´m trying to do this for a couple of days and i desperately need help from some kind of "rom-god"
so all u "rom-gods" reading this: gimme a hand, please!!!
I do have the 8 Gig mini sd card update for it, but nothing for the wifi yet. I dont even know how to get into the rom to enable it. As for the GPS chip it is over in europe from what i heard.
update
@thepindoctor
what kind of update is it?
just a .cab or something to flash the device?
It is just a cab file for the 8 gig memory card to work and i sure the wifi update will be the same way. I am having so much trouble with this phone rebooting at times and even hard resetting at times, im so glad i kept my wing, gave that to my wife but now im taking it back.
wifi
where did you get the information about the possible wifi-upgrade from?
i´m still very interested in it...
p.s.
i never experienced these kind of problems, though i keep playing around with my daxian to get the bootloader out! kinda strange...
T32 8 gig cab
thepindoctor said:
It is just a cab file for the 8 gig memory card to work and i sure the wifi update will be the same way. I am having so much trouble with this phone rebooting at times and even hard resetting at times, im so glad i kept my wing, gave that to my wife but now im taking it back.
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Hi,
Were I can find this 8 gig card cab? In my device with wifi has just up to 2 gig.
Thank you in advance!
BR
SDHC update and WIFI
To enable SDHC, you can just look for it on the forum, it is on here several times...
Am not sure, but don't think that there will be an "update" for wifi...
The daxian x999/t32 doesn't have it, the daxian x999+/t32+ (which I have) does however...
So don't think you should get your hopes on for a "wifi update", if you would have a wifi antenna built-in, don't you think they would try to make it work from the beginning?
The + version has also been released a couple of months ago and if there would be such an update, I think they would've released it then.
is the sdhc hack a standard wm6 update for all phones? can't find a specific T32 one on here
I have the Wifi Hack App
Its a little dificult to do this:
1) get the pocket hack master (trial version)
http://store.handmark.com/p/910/Pocket_Hack_Master_for_Windows_Mobile_Pocket_PC
2) Shut off BLUETOOTH on 13%
3) Download http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-wmwifirouter-v0-89.html
WIFI router
4) on T32 (only T32) go to Settings - Connections - GPRS Stup, name it WIFI (on gprs internet)
5) save and restart t32. Run the wifi router and it will find your connection
And your using T32 wifi . thanks Rex909 the ghost hack master
i think i explained it right if i left something out let me know
That doesn't really make any sense. I've never been able to get Pocket Hackmaster to work with my T32. And how would one "shut off BLUETOOTH on 13%"??? And what would Hackmaster and the WiFi router have to do with each other?
any answer to the sdhc update whereabouts?
shambolic said:
any answer to the sdhc update whereabouts?
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the cab that i use is SDHC.777 and is working, do a search with this name
problem with my daxian x999
Hello my friends
I really need your help. My phone starts to fail during booting and also if boot has problem reading some applications.
I made a hard reset as were explained before, blue screen...
So far so good, but still the some problem, I looks like some files are missing, shortcut invalid and my documents some times stay some no.
I am newbie with this but I think there is a problem with the rom.
thanks.
Have you used WMStorage 1.8, SPB MobileShell2.x or the TomTom Navigator with the phone before?
Until now i have found 4 cases of that behavior with the T32+ (including mine and yours)
I want to know what caused the malfunction. My phone is on the way back to me from china where it was repaired and i dont want it to break down again - so if you have any suspision please share it with me.
Other Software i used:
S2U2, S2P, S2V, and many more...
Draque:the_Plaque said:
Have you used WMStorage 1.8, SPB MobileShell2.x or the TomTom Navigator with the phone before?
Until now i have found 4 cases of that behavior with the T32+ (including mine and yours)
I want to know what caused the malfunction. My phone is on the way back to me from china where it was repaired and i dont want it to break down again - so if you have any suspision please share it with me.
Other Software i used:
S2U2, S2P, S2V, and many more...
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****, YES !!! S2U2 and S2V,
Tomorrow, I'll send to china. Now the phone doesn't boot. Only shows windows mobile screen (blue). Nothing more
It's good to know which soft we have to avoid.
I didn't use WMStorage 1.8, SPB MobileShell2.x or the TomTom Navigator.
Only used S2UD and S2V.
Thanks for your info and share it!
personally i dont really think that s2u2 is responsible but maybe...
On the other Hand i had the following sw installed:
OmapClock - which failed at 204 MHZ
ActiveGCSync - a Google Calender Sync Application
GooSync - also a Google Calender Sync App
opera_wm5_ppc_865 - Browser
osmtracker
PCMKeyboard
Pointui 1.51a
SetVolume
SkypeForPocketPc
many GPS and Geocaching Apps
i also deleted the launcher startup link and the TouchFlo3D App.
btw: did s2u3 always behave right when you rotated the screen?
Good luck for your phone
I just purchased this phone and after extensive searching was unable to find any information regarding modifying the ROM.
This Quad Band Phone has the following features;
2.8" touchscreen
TI OMAP 1030 (ARM926T)
128 Rom 64 RAM
WM6.0
GPS
WiFi
Bluetooth 2.0
GPRS Edge
2Mp Camera
Microsim slot that supports up to 4GB T flash Card
I was wondering if there were some generic modding tools / instructions to extract and modify the ROM.
I primarily want to do this because the WM6.0 OS does not seem to be complete. e.g. the HKLM/Software/OEM/PhoneSetting key is not there and when added with the key ShowTimeZonePage there is no change. (this was done manually and with the HTC Registry wizard
I would also like to trim down unneeded programs to maximize the storage space and perhaps add the TF2D to the ROM.
TF2D installed perfectly on this device however takes the majority of my RAM limiting what I can install in there.
I read somewhere that this was an HTC Diamond Clone. While I do see the simular design I doubt the hardware is the same. Even still I have to ask. would the HTC software and ROM's work with this Phone?
One last question. Would it be possible to upgrade the OS to WM 6.1 using an existing ROM Image? I doubt it but had to ask. I am sure that I will have to dump the ROM from the phone and use that image to edit.
Please let me know your thoughts. Good or bad.
I hope to be able to modify this phone and if not that is ok because it is still a good phone as is. I was just hoping to get more out of it.
i have the same phone
hey, i have the same phone ... did you found anything about modding it ?
I was able to dump the ROM however since part of it is SRPK encoded I was unable to do anything with it.
I Have a more detailed thread on what I was able to accomplish going here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455233
If you get any farther please share.
I Found the Rom for WM6.1
Hey, i found the rom for WM6.1 its an img file, but, i dont know how to procede, tell me how to send you, to test.
upload the file to this site
http://uploaded.to/
and post the link here
Are you sure this is for the hTY Q5? Where did you find it?
Rom
http://uploaded.to/?id=6u3czv
is from the Development team of the phone, is a "test" rom
matagatoz said:
http://uploaded.to/?id=6u3czv
is from the Development team of the phone, is a "test" rom
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Hi!
Just reading through the forum here. ggeisler, any luck with that WM6.1 ROM?
HTY/Hantel Q5 - TouchFlo 3d (manilla)
Does anyone know if the new TouchFlo 3D Manilla (as seeon on the HTC Touch Diamond) works on tihs phone? and if so, any particular place I can I can find it to install it on the Hantel Q5 WM6?
Can someone tell me more about this device and it's InfraRed port
I want to know is this the CIR infrared port, so that u can use the device also as a remote controller for your television at about 2 meters distance?
Can someone please try this, I want to know this fact before buying one...
Can you recommend this phone for buying?
Thnx
Jaromirtje said:
Can someone tell me more about this device and it's InfraRed port
I want to know is this the CIR infrared port, so that u can use the device also as a remote controller for your television at about 2 meters distance?
Can someone please try this, I want to know this fact before buying one...
Can you recommend this phone for buying?
Thnx
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Your best bet is to pose the question to the vendor on this one. Atleast you'll know for sure, otherwise be refunded if any information on the device that is inaccurate after purchase. Hail to eBay and PayPal protection! Seriously though, if the decision to buy this phone is based on a condition of using it for a remote control for your TV, you're best off not buying this device. Anyhow, I`m still waiting for my order of this device to arrive. I`ll test and let you know, but from the specs I read, it didn`t note a CIR infrared port. Anyone?
There is no infrared on this phone that I am aware of. Perhaps other model variants have one.
I have not had a chance to play with the ROM yet but as soon as I have a chance I will try to load it and post back here with the results.
Hantel007 said:
Does anyone know if the new TouchFlo 3D Manilla (as seeon on the HTC Touch Diamond) works on tihs phone? and if so, any particular place I can I can find it to install it on the Hantel Q5 WM6?
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yes it works but I have only been able to get UPDATE 19 to work and it was verry slow. (ultimately had to remove it) you can install everything into memory fine but you will have very little space left on the device. If you install anything on the SD Card it will be to slow to use.
get it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173
Can someone already confirm if the hty q5 has cir or not....
the respones i got from ebay sellers:
*bestplace4you says it has no infrared at all, de factory is still developing it...
*www.tomtop.com says it is the short range infrared that has to be aimed directly
*light_wholesale says it is with the strong infrared signal (cir)
so still no view on this....
can someone bring the light to this topic...
Jaromirtje said:
Can someone already confirm if the hty q5 has cir or not....
the respones i got from ebay sellers:
*bestplace4you says it has no infrared at all, de factory is still developing it...
*www.tomtop.com says it is the short range infrared that has to be aimed directly
*light_wholesale says it is with the strong infrared signal (cir)
so still no view on this....
can someone bring the light to this topic...
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NO IR at all
I have the device in my hand, nothing on it looks like it has an ir emitter.
I am sure tomtop is confusing this Q5 with another phone
this one has;
GPS
Bluetooth
Quadband (some models have triband so be careful you may need 850Mhz in some locations)
Edge
2MP Camera
WiFi
WM6 (hopefully upgradable to 6.1 still trying)
TF Card slot capable of up to 4GB (tried 8GB and only read 4)
But still no ir port.
Windows mobile has settings for ir but the hardware just is not there.
so one more time, I can confirm that there is no ir on this phone!
Tha last phone I had with ir sucked using as a remote. I ended up replacing the ir emmiter because the one that was in it was just to weak. the new emmiter worked better however the wavelengths transmitted via ir are not used by all remote controls.
If you want a remote go buy a remote. Using you phone is not the best option.
hey, mine has a 8gb microsd ... and it reads it all
ggeisler said:
yes it works but I have only been able to get UPDATE 19 to work and it was verry slow. (ultimately had to remove it) you can install everything into memory fine but you will have very little space left on the device. If you install anything on the SD Card it will be to slow to use.
get it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173
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Ahh, Sorry to hear about the perfomance, was really looking forward to getting the interface on this device with smooth operation. One thing to note though, and this is something that I inquired about with the Windows ROM versions, is that my device came installed with Windows Mobile 6.1. I wonder if that would make a difference at all. Anyway, No big deal really. Right now my challenge is to get the GPS working. Keep getting the "No Valid GPS signal" etc.. and I've tried it everywhere.. suggestions? (sigh) Anyway, Thanks for providing me the link for U19, I'll give it a go and see what happens.
This message simply means that is has not locked onto a GPS Satellite signal yet. My phone has taken as long as 10 min to lock on (when indoors). It is significantly faster when outdoors.
FYI
COM: 5
Baud: 4800
(If using TomTom choose "Other NMEA GPS reciever")
If your phone came with WM6.1 would it be possible for you to dump an image of it for all of us with 6.0?
I have been trying to get the Image provided by matagatoz with no success.
I believe that na external program was used to first update the bootloader before updating the ROM. since I nether have this program or the updated bootloader all my attempts to upload this image have failed.
I have even attempted a SD card install but have not found an appropriate combination of file name of image, or key press combo for updating
I found that holding down Power and the End Call button resets device to factory defaults. Holding the end call and pressing the reset does the same thing. I have not found any other key press combination's that do anything else.
Update
Did you try to reboot it using Power + circle button, or turning it on with that combination... is supposed to load teh image file into rom from SD card with that
matagatoz said:
Did you try to reboot it using Power + circle button, or turning it on with that combination... is supposed to load teh image file into rom from SD card with that
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Any clue as to what to name the image?
I have tried your key combo (reset while pressing circle) and the device shuts off and is unresponsive (nothing on screen) until it is reset again (will not power back on)
I think we may be on to something I think we just need the correct file name.
Currently I have tried;
HTC.nbh
HTY.nbh
ELFIMG.nbh
ELF0IMG.nbh
UPLOADER.IMG
Flash Procedure ( images on DOC inside ROM download RAR )
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3.13 before the escalation of the original guidelines
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First, before the 3.13 version 6.1 upgrade steps:
Note: upgrading the necessary equipment (computers, USB line, leave the battery fixture), veneer, upgraded machine can be used tweezers to connect TP3, TP17 trigger. As a result of individual trigger abnormal escalation after using fake battery upgrade.
1. Intercalation USB line to install drivers. (Installed after the pull-out USB line)
2.2. Open decompression after the upgrade software,
3. Click on the upgrade software, upgrade function keys.
4. Connect USB cable, shorted PCBA contact.
5. Upgrade to connect the success of the upgrade started.
6. The upgrade is complete
Second, after the 3.13 version of Brush Tutorial:
1, to prepare a capacity of less than 1G cards tf.
2, will be available compression package (uploader.img) copied to the card's root directory
3, to ensure that your battery not too little, at least above 50%
4, will be shut down mobile phone and the battery is removed, place will be mounted on a mobile phone
5, copy files to the TF card into the phone TF bed
6, at the same time hold down the "power button + the middle of a round navigation button" after a few seconds the screen "update"
7,几十秒, the phone will automatically re-starting, so Q5 your success on the Brush
There's a new Zest firmware available for download from http://www.my-xda.com/. The filename is Xda_Zest Firmware Update_V7.7.0S.WWE20.00_M4.6.5.P7_V2.1.4 GBR20, which seems to be updates to most of the roms inside the zest. It's installing at the moment, and the upgrade interface on the phone is displaying "GalaxyMini5 Eboot (3.33.0). Since this appears to be a codename for the P565, I guess this is more evidence that the XDA Zest is simply an underclocked P565 and more evidence that P565 firmware may well work on it.
Warning, this firmware does not appear to contain the O2 menu software, or the free GPS software that comes with the phone (although maybe the latter can be re-installed from the SD card). Shame - I rather liked the O2 menu interface.
what improvements does it have? Is it actually worth upgrading?
Thanks.
The only things I can see that I don't remember seeing before are a couple of new or updated control panel entries. Video calling is probably the really important one.
You seem to lose the RSS reader, the O2 auto settings, the O2 menu and the GPS s/w (although the latter was only a demo). I have no idea if using the SD card that came with the Zest will restore these, as I don't have it. (If the software is all on there somewhere, and someone could bung me a copy, I'd be really grateful.)
It does make me wonder how the P565 firmware compares. I understand it has a nice touch interface on it.
It seems odd that the new firmware would remove all the o2 specific bits. Great if you want to use it on another network I suppose, but I quite like the mobile shell or o2 menu.
The satnav software isn't on the sd card - only the maps.
The instructions say:
Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, refer to the Xda Zest user manual before upgrading your device software.
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I couldn't see anything of significance in the user manual.
Interesting. I actually have Tomtom for GPS on a different SD card, which is related to the reason I don't have the original SD card. Tomtom autoinstalls from the SD card, so I thought it might be that the O2 software installed itself from the SD card provided by O2. I guess that if it's only maps on the SD card then that's not the case, and the new firmware does strip out all the O2 extras, which seems like a peculiar decision to say the least.
Still, it did get me to try the new SPB mobile shell 3, which is what the O2 menu is based on, but nicer. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the $35 for just a flashy finger driven interface. The weird thing is, it actually might be.
I'm actually going to upgrade my firmware to new one which is currently available in O2 site. What I want to know is if upgrade mine to the latest what would be the changes I may seen... Is it worth upgrading by loosing all the software?
So far I've seen nothing to write home about. The only reason might be if you can't already make video calls and want to do so. (I never make them, so I have no idea whether or not they're supported in the original firmware.)
I just upgraded mine to new firm ware. It worked fine for me. I didn't lose any O2 extras inc O2 menu. It was Oki but haven't tried yet to make video calls.. I will install iGO8 and will uninstall the co-pilot.
SPB Mobile shell 3.0 Rocks working smoothly with my Omnia and Xda Zest
I've just updated, and I didn't lose any O2 extras either (including Copilot). I backed up the Program Files\Copilot folder on the device to my PC before updating, and copied it back over after the update and voila, I've still got my fully activated version of Copilot. It did still prompt for allowing it to connect to the net during the 14-day trial the first time I ran it, but the license screen confirms it's the full version.
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I have a working theory that the autorun on my Tomtom SD card might have run in preference to some autorun that might otherwise have run the first time the OS booted. I could test this by re-installing the firmware, but it's kind of a pain to have to put all the data on again.
Having played around some more and browsed the Extended ROM on my device, this does appear to be what happened, as all the CAB files are present. Fortunately this is a bonus for me, since I'm not on O2, and most of these files are useless to me, and I can therefore just pick and choose the apps I'd like to install.
This might be useful to other Zest users - the hack to make the Extended ROM visible:
Use your favourite Registry Editor to make HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ONDisk2\FATFS\MountHidden set to 0 (default is 1)
You can then browse to \ASUS_ROM\ in Total Commander to view your Extended ROM partition. The ROM does not appear to be write protected, so you can now put all the packages *you* want re-installed on a hard reset in there. Neat.
I contacted O2 support about this issue, and they replied saying that:
On occasions the O2 menu can drop off after a ROM upgrade, but this would usually be resolve by either hard resetting or running the upgrade again. The o2 menu is still installed on the new ROM.
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I have now done this upgrade and have retained the 02 menu. The radio reception seems a bit better as I now get HSDPA at home, which I didn't previously, so the radio upgrade seems to be worth it.
ringer
ive got the zest and am happy with it so far apart from the last 2 days i cannot hear it when i get a call everything else works ie.system sounds,core player etc but the actual phone wont ring it just vibrates ive reset it a million times and checked system settings etc but nothing so if anyone has any ideas i would be very grateful, also how do you know if you are getting hdspa or not is there a setting for it or something, cheers guys.
The connectivity icon at the top right of the screen shows what communication protocol is being used by showing a symbol (usually just a single letter) in a solid square. The letters I have seen so far are:
G - GPRS (2G)
E - EDGE
3G - 3G (this is the odd one out with the two letters squashed together)
H - HSDPA
It's worth mentioning that on my train ride home I see all four protocols at different points, and the hand-off between them is very smooth.
thanks for quick reply i will keep an eye on it, still no joy with my ringer though its very strange. never had a problem like it on my orbit. i will keep investigating ,also do you know if anyone will be coming up with a rom for zest as i miss manila 2d although mobile shell v3 is good.
Have you checked:
Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications
On the Notifications tab you can select the "Ring type", one possible choice of which is "Vibrate", which will make the phone only vibrate on incoming calls. Just guessing.
yes ive tried all that it might be affected by software ive installed recently i will try unistalling them one by one and see if that helps, failing that il do a hard reset i guess, anyone know how to hard reset the zest? thanks for your help.
There is a contortional key sequence for this, but you can also reset it by going to:
Start->Settings->System Tab->Default Settings
cheers managed to sort it , i installed mini lyrics software and ticked all in associating files which for some reason stopped the phone from ringing
thanks for your help.
Failure of firmware upgrade
Ive just had a power failure whilst upgrading the firmware on my new xda Zest and all it it shows when turning on is "OS Update failed! Please update again". Is there anything i can about this or will it need to be returned to O2. Any suggestions. thanx
hi all
i am new too this forum, but i'm really happy that i find some thing that i need a lot.
as far as i know, Sim cards has a memory that stores phone numbers and SMSs! (i know a lot! )
so it is possible to store any kind of data in it! even programs! am i right?
as i had heard, there are programs that sits in Sim card and does lots of things!
now here is the question:
is there any programs that we can manage Sim card data? or even let us see all the data in Sim card.
how can we install programs in Sim card?
how can we write programs for it?
i hope i can find some information here
thnx all
If our Sim Card can store program then it must have a memory as big as USB . And all SD will be unable ...
sim card editing
try simemulator @http://www.sorobangeeks.com/software
i heard on the net that mobilEdit can do much better though i haven't tried it.
before using simemulator, read all the FAQs first!
sim card editing
sorry to threadjack my own post above.
here's another one i found for sim editing. but again i haven't tried it yet.
Dekart SIM Manager 2.5
look different!
thnx all, but let me explain some more
i am not looking for normal programs, as i am not going to do normal tasks like copying contacts!
Sim card has a memory, so we may be able to store any kind of data in it! so we may be able to store a light program in it! so we can do a lot!
as i had heard, there are programs that can be stored on Sim card make your phone a portable microphone, but not for you it sends all the voices to some where that the program wants!!
no matter what i told may be some how wrong, but i think it is possible to work on it
it is simple! we want to store data in Sim card, but this data is acceptable for mobile operators to do some thing we want!
if i want to tell in another way, i should say, how can i write a program and store it in Sim?!!
Do you know how "much" memoy has usual, world-wide-used SIM card?
Most of them has 32-128 KB (kilobytes)! Now, compare that to usual phone memory + storage cards memory that almost any device have.
Most of (usual) SIM cards can store up to 250 contacts entries and some sms messages. That is all what can be stored on max. 128 KB of memory.
Just a small reminder: 128 KB of RAM was "much" when I bought my first computer. It was ZX Spectrum II and the year was 1986 (or 1988, I cant remember).Only then 128 KB seemed to be impossible to fill with program code ( wonderfull assembler and disassembler days). Today, even phones have more than 128 MB of memory (1.000 X more then 128 KB).
Now, correct me if I´am wrong, but I am speaking about those SIM cards I know about. Maybe there is some new sort of it with extended memory capacity (but I didnt heard for it).
as you said, 128KB is enough to run an OS! or at least it is possible to run a program with it.
so why it isn't possible to store a small program on Sim card?
if we expect every upcodes and operands 2 Bytes, it is still enough memory to run a program that sends all the voices to a specified phone number.
again let me ask in another way:
is there any standard language that mobile operators understand?
when we turn on our mobile, some thing must be initialized, what are those? how can we edit those settings?
we may need to edit the part that is initialized every time
i think it is possible, but still don't know what to do!
nothing else?!!
can't anyone help?!
i though i can find many useful ideas! i have lots of other questions.
i will be glad if someone can help me, even share ideas like this. i have similar ideas.
you can call me here!
[email protected]
again thnx all
why don't you give us an example of a program that YOU would like to store on the sim. Tell me what you can get with 128KB? Even Pocket RAR is 326KB, a simple screencapture program is 170KB, what do you expect to do with only 128KB (if you even have one). And is it worth it?
Why would you even want to **** around with your sim card?
You screw it up and you have to pay for a new one from your provider.
MicroSDHC cards are retarded cheap. Why run the risk.
Maybe he wants to hide his programs inside SIM card. But its true that the SIM card has no enough amount of memory to store even small app. Besides, if you could write this program to SIM, who may be able to run it? Only your program again, because standard GSM-driver does not run any program from SIM card.
thanks for answers.
i am not going to write a program with a graphical interface witch can handle many tasks!
i want to have something like virus!! or a Trojan horse that can copy calls to another phone line too!
this is only an example,
i am not going to install regular programs on my sim, i want some thing much more strange!
we know that when we turn our phone on, something must be initialized, what are those? the default things that our operator wants, like show our number too every one, enable call waiting and ....
and it must be stored in sim memory, which is not the same as contact or sms memory. am i right?
so, first we can change those settings, i think we can find some extra feathers that is disable in many Sim cards.
then it may be possible to have a extra segment that we can store our program there.
the program should not be written in c# or java because we don't have the framework for them, or even C++.
maybe it has an operating system in it and we need too change some constants! or anything else.
first we need some low lvl information from Sim cards. then we can find what should we do.
i have a friend that can help a little,
i will send an example soon to see Simcard programing can be good
Forget it. You have to understand, that even if you write your "program" to SIM card, nobody then can execute it. Because nothing is executed from SIM card while it is initialized.
AND If I got it right, the use your planning is not legit. Since I sincerely doubt you're going to spy on yourself, you maybe want it to spy on someone? Don't know in the US (but I can easily imagine), here in Italy it would be considered a severe violation of a person's privacy, and you would be jailed for that... so, just trust more people around you and live your life peacefully
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AND If I got it right, the use your planning is not legit. Since I sincerely doubt you're going to spy on yourself, you maybe want it to spy on someone? Don't know in the US (but I can easily imagine), here in Italy it would be considered a severe violation of a person's privacy, and you would be jailed for that... so, just trust more people around you and live your life peacefully
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i am not going to spy anyone, as any changes to those settings must be visible for mobile operators. and as you said, "you would be jailed for that"
but if government ask to do some thing like this, no one can do anything!
i had heard that England government had reached to something like that!!
you receive an SMS and when you read it, something is installed on your Sim and all the voices will be send somewhere else too!
i just want to know what is happening in my sim card! the first thing i asked was how can i see every thing in my sim card?!
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Forget it. You have to understand, that even if you write your "program" to SIM card, nobody then can execute it. Because nothing is executed from SIM card while it is initialized.
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the program should be written in GSM language! or some thing that every mobile phone or mobile operator understand.
afydriver said:
i had heard that England government had reached to something like that!!
you receive an SMS and when you read it, something is installed on your Sim and all the voices will be send somewhere else too!
i just want to know what is happening in my sim card! the first thing i asked was how can i see every thing in my sim card?!
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You are too credulous, dont believe in those fairy-tales. It is really impossible. As we say in Russia: "It can not happen, because it can never happen!" ("Этого не может быть, потому что этого не может быть никогда!")
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You are too credulous, dont believe in those fairy-tales. It is really impossible. As we say in Russia: "It can not happen, because it can never happen!" ("Этого не может быть, потому что этого не может быть никогда!")
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i would be glad if it can not true.
but i think it is possible, and its too easy!
do you agree that settings like enabling call waiting, diverting, SMS service number, and ... should be saved in Sim memory?
all the data must be send somewhere
data can be send to 2 service centers
or to a service center that copies data to somewhere
or any other ways.
it is possible!
which part is wrong?
if it had not been happened yet, it can be done soon!!
i think it is good to search a little on it, there must be something interesting
at least we can be sure it is not possible!
afydriver said:
i would be glad if it can not true.
but i think it is possible, and its too easy!
do you agree that settings like enabling call waiting, diverting, SMS service number, and ... should be saved in Sim memory?
all the data must be send somewhere
data can be send to 2 service centers
or to a service center that copies data to somewhere
or any other ways.
it is possible!
which part is wrong?
if it had not been happened yet, it can be done soon!!
i think it is good to search a little on it, there must be something interesting
at least we can be sure it is not possible!
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Again, you should differ stored data and programs. Data is never executed, it is read and written by the external programs (such as GSM driver). Program which can be executed, is situated outside SIM card, otherwise it will not execute, because nothing executes programs from SIM. I think such kind of programs does not exist at all.
GOOD!
thnx a lot.
can you please explain some more about GSM driver?
i think at least we can change data on Sim card and make the GSM driver work different. am i right?