MicroSD SDHC Class 4 or 8? - P3300, MDA Compact III Accessories

Currently have a Class 4 card, would a Class 8 card give any speed increase? Does it really pay off to upgrade to a higher class card?

my english that bad or does nobody have a answer?
would a upgrade to class 6 make any difference? (8gb sdhc class 4 to 8gb sdhc class 8)

eppoeh said:
my english that bad or does nobody have a answer?
would a upgrade to class 6 make any difference? (8gb sdhc class 4 to 8gb sdhc class 8)
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Normaly it would be faster a class 8 but the artemis will not be any faster. It will not get the max speed of the card.

exactly speed might be a point for digital camera or sdhc card reader, not for PDA. Same for example as with mine 4GB SD 150x in Universal - no diff. in transfer rates between 66x SDcard and 150x. There is max. transfer rate of the mboard - i doubt it can be oveclocked. So if U dont need to transfer helluva lot of datas on daily basis thru SDHC card reader.....better to save some money for beer

krijger said:
Normaly it would be faster a class 8 but the artemis will not be any faster. It will not get the max speed of the card.
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That was almost the answer i'm looking for
krijger said:
in transfer rates between 66x SDcard and 150x
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Now i'm confused... max throughput of pda = 150x? then i should get a card that can handle that speed, right?
IOW: What is the max throughput of the phone?

I was speaking about classic SD cards (transfer rates are as multiple of ??default speed??) But there is no change in data throughput in device (and same with SDHC) simply transfer speeds are exactly same w/o connection to class or speed of the card in PDA-other thing is card reader. As i wrote above - if u dont need to transfer large amounts of data from PC... no need to have class8

the 8G sandisk card apparently dosnt read as fast as lower class devices. but as someone said the phone isnt at top speed like its wifi being 11mb b not G.

I have a Sandisk 8Gb microSDHC Class 4 in my Artemis ( WM6 touchflo 4 cube ROM) I store all my non ROM programs & files from the card & all video etc is of course stored on the card.
Cant say I noticed any lag vs smaller 2Gb Sandisk microSD card. I tried loading video on Device Memory to see if it played better & it didnt .

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Kingston micro SD HC 4 GB
I've purchased a Kingston micro SD HC 4 GB, but it doesn´t work in my HTC P3300 Artemis.
I would be grateful if you want to help me.

XLOOX said:
I have a Sandisk 8Gb microSDHC Class 4 in my Artemis ( WM6 touchflo 4 cube ROM) I store all my non ROM programs & files from the card & all video etc is of course stored on the card.
Cant say I noticed any lag vs smaller 2Gb Sandisk microSD card. I tried loading video on Device Memory to see if it played better & it didnt .
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Hi, I have a HTC P3300 with Windows Mobile 5 installed. I bought a Trascend microSDHC 8 Gb Card but the system doesn't recognize it. Do you know how could it work?
Thanks in advance.

Artemis,
My Sandisk MicroSDHC 4GB class 8 slower than normal 2GB MicroSD card.

kakà_ricardo said:
Hi, I have a HTC P3300 with Windows Mobile 5 installed. I bought a Trascend microSDHC 8 Gb Card but the system doesn't recognize it. Do you know how could it work?
Thanks in advance.
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the original p330 don't read the micro SDHD only the SD type. You have to install a cab that enable the p3300 to read the SDHD, then soft reset. I do in mine and all works fine

Use a tool to format your storage card properly, that increases the speed a lot more. 66x card should be fast enough.
Change the cluster size from 512 Bytes to 4 KB or higher. Note that you will lose free space because every file is at least 4 KB big, even if it's just 1 byte in size.
If you don't have lots of small files this is a good option. My card is now three times faster but I lost about 1 GB of free space.

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[Q] Class 10 microSDHC with same write performance stats as a class 4 card?

I recently bought a genuine class 10 Kingston 16GB microSDHC card to replace my class 4 Kingston 16GB microSDHC for my HTC Desire GSM. I have a freshly installed LeeDroid v2.4.1 ROM with S-Off. I did a full wipe/factory reset/format before installing LeeDroid. I created a 15GB FAT32 partition and a 1GB EXT3 partition on both cards for using A2SD+. After comparing both cards (while in my HTC Desire) with 2 benchmark apps from the Market, AnTutu System Benchmark and SD Tools, I'm having some problems.
The problem is that the write performance is almost the same on both the microSDHC cards, around +/- 5 MB/sec. Installing the SD Speed Boost app didn't help in improving the write performance. According to the microSDHC specification I should have at least around +/- 10MB/sec write performance with a class 10 microSDHC card.
I searched a bit here on XDA, and I'm reading some conflicting things. Some say that the HTC Desire supports only up to class 6 microSDHC cards, while others say that the brand new class 10 card they bought on eBay gave them a massive performance boost with max write performance. Also I'm reading that having multiple partitions on a microSDHC card has a negative impact on write performance. Is this true?
Anybody have any suggestions or ideas?
Hello
I have no idea and no suggestions sorry , and I agree with you, everything is strange with writing speed. I think that the "class" is bull**** from my point of view.
Just see my "class 4" card tested with SD tools:
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I have a S-ON Desire with Oxygen 2.0.3, and "class 4" 8Go card with a first Fat32 partition (=6.5GGo) and a second partition Ext4 (1Go) ...
I have a class 10 too... but I think Desire's SD handler is the real bottleneck. Did you try and test your SDs on a USB2.0 card reader attached to your computer? You should see the difference among the two.
I just testes my SD performance with SD Tools and I got 8MBs write and 23.5MBs read with a class 2 card. People tend to say that class 6 is better than class 10, in most cases anyway.
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wierd isnt it?
16mb writing speed and 8mb reading speed ... thats class 4 kingston card.
not rooted,
Writing speed > reading speed ????
Kingston 4gb class 4 gives me over 8mbps write. ;-) better than Samsung plus class 6.
Also, after some testing I came to conclusion that smaller the size, the faster it is.
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probably, my card is 4gb btw if you were wondering why i had such high writing and reading speed
I recently bought an USB 2.0 card reader from Sitecom, but that one broke down on me before I could test the microSDHC cards. The first few days it worked fine, but now it won't recognize any cards anymore...
The results you guys posted really surprised me, such wide variation in performance. Yesterday I called HTC Netherlands and asked them if there are any limitations or restrictions on the HTC Desire regarding the max supported class cards. They couldn't give me an answer straight away (they said I was the first person to ask this question... ), but they are going to do some research regarding this and report back to me. As soon as I get an answer I will post it here.
For now I'm at a loss. The smaller the card the faster it's speed under the same class sounds logical. Also I'm thinking that certain brands might be more compatible or incompatible with the HTC Desire. After researching it some more, I came across some information about people saying that Kingston isn't the best brand to choose for the HTC Desire.
For those who are curious..... HTC Netherlands called me back, after some research at there end they could tell me that the HTC Desire supports up to class 6 microSDHC cards. They also mentioned that some brands are better then other brands when used in there smartphones, although they didn't provide any specific brands.

Looking for a MicroSD card, SanDisk / Samsung UHS-I?

Hi,
So I'm finally out of space and I need a 32GB microSD card. I'm going to use it for storing photos/videos (directly written on the card) and music, and I'm also going to use it as a USB storage. I've been looking around the forums and found this Sandisk UHS-I card:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221067563602
Question is, does GS2 support UHS-I cards? Is UHS-I compatible with the device? If it is, will it work at maximum speed or will the device treat it as a class 10 card? I'm concerned my GS2 won't be able to work well with the UHS-I card because of incompatibility. Should I just get a regular Class 10 card instead?
Thanks!
Your fine but you missed the deal, yesterday Best Buy had it on sale for $20 and you didn't have deal with shipping
I just looked it up on Best Buy, they sell it for $70 now, isn't it a bit strange that I found it on eBay for only $27? The eBay seller got quite a lot of positive feedbacks and looks pretty reliable. I hope it's just Best Buy overpricing the item.
I still need an answer for my most important question: Does GS2 support UHS-I cards? Is this UHS-I card fully compatible with the device?
Thanks again.
Hi!!!
Yes the SGS2 is compatible with the uhs-1 card my phone have a samsung 64 gb uhs-1
Regards
Isaac_cks said:
Yes the SGS2 is compatible with the uhs-1 card my phone have a samsung 64 gb uhs-1
Regards
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i have bought one 32gb kingstone , but i got one chinese version, now its not working , it last 1 year
It´s a chinese Fake
Maybe it´s a very poor quality microsd card
The Galaxy S2 has problems with UHS-I cards. Go with a Class 6 32GB card; they're more reliable.
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The Galaxy S2 has problems with UHS-I cards. Go with a Class 6 32GB card; they're more reliable.
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What sort of problems? My S2 on LS8 JB only wrote to the card (UHS-1 64GB) at 6-8 MB/s making me think the card was defective but on LSJ it writes at 9-12 MB/s. ALso when performing tests my cpu usage is very high so I would recommend not underclocking during tests and maybe locking cpu with performance governor. Anyway I just wanted to share my experience of also being sceptical but now happy
i have a uhs-1 card in my s2 without any problems
I have a SanDisk Ultra microSDXC UHS-I 64GB, EU model SDSDQU-064G-U46A.
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It never gave me any problem, none at all.
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What sort of problems? My S2 on LS8 JB only wrote to the card (UHS-1 64GB) at 6-8 MB/s making me think the card was defective but on LSJ it writes at 9-12 MB/s. ALso when performing tests my cpu usage is very high so I would recommend not underclocking during tests and maybe locking cpu with performance governor. Anyway I just wanted to share my experience of also being sceptical but now happy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172970
I've looked around the web and found some bad reviews on the SanDisk card (mainly unreliable card, dying in few months), so I looked instead for a Samsung one with great reviews, which seems a bit more reliable:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-MIC...347617?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5653563b21
What do you guys think?
Not had any problems with my Sandisk 64GB UHS-1 card.
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Not had any problems with my Sandisk 64GB UHS-1 card.
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UHS-I cards are backwards compatible AFAIK, so they are probably operating at slower speeds than they would in a native UHS device.
Bought a Samsung 32GB Class 10 UHS-1 card from MyMemory for 21 pounds (=$33). Preferred to pay extra ~$7 to a reliable store and not waste my time and money on fake chink ones at eBay.
I'll let you know the details once I get it ^.^
what read/write speed you achieve?
Got the card today - exactly 10 days after I ordered ^.^ It's this card: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/Samsung/Samsung-32GB-Micro-SDHC-Plus-up-to-48MB_s-Class-10
Pretty good results from what I've seen around.
Tested on I9100T 16GB with Omega ROM V16.2 (XXLSJ), whilst a few phone calls and endless WhatsApp messaging (in case any of it affects the results), Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit with WDC Green 500GB 5400RPM HDD.
What do you guys think?
Hello, i need help please.
I have Samsung Galaxy S4 (i9505) with Android 4.2.2 and only 16GB of memory.
Which microSD card you people recomend me to buy?
1. SanDisk Extreme Pro 16GB (read 95MB/s and write 90MB/s); SDSDQXP-016G
2. Samsung MicroSDHC Pro 16GB (read 70MB/s and write 20MB/s); MB-MGBGB
3. Toshiba Exceria Ultra High Speed Class 10, UHS-I Typ HD (read 95MB/s and write 30MB/s)
Which one is better?
Will i get this speed results on my phone when i will make a speed test of rear/write on microSD card or this results are not true?
Or will be the same if i buy SanDisk Ultra C10 (read 30MB/s and write 10MB/s) becouse of limitation on my device? Could Galaxy S4 do more that 10MB/s write?
I would like have a very fast microSD for recording my video in FULL HD without any lag.
Last year i had Galaxy S3 with SanDisk Ultra C10 and when i was recording, the video "sticking"
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I've looked around the web and found some bad reviews on the SanDisk card (mainly unreliable card, dying in few months)
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There are a LOT of fake cards floating around. You need to be extremely careful about your sources.
If a card looks unbelievably cheap, it probably is, but that doesn't mean that ones at normal price aren't fake either.
Take a look at http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=1022 for some background from a few years back.
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Question is, does GS2 support UHS-I cards?
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Yes. I have a Samsung 32 GB microSDHC UHS-I card and it works.

Storage and SD class questions

When installing apps on the phone, are they installed in the hidden system partition, or on the internal SD card section?
Considering I would use the external SD card mainly for nandroid backups, pictures and videos – both captured by the phone itself, do I need a class 10 card or would a class 4 do?
Thank you.
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When installing apps on the phone, are they installed in the hidden system partition, or on the internal SD card section?
Considering I would use the external SD card mainly for nandroid backups, pictures and videos – both captured by the phone itself, do I need a class 10 card or would a class 4 do?
Thank you.
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To start with the internal SD card and the system partition are the same storage, just partitioned and both of them are accessible.
The application apk files are stored in the system partition while the InternalSD is used for user app data. You can store your stuff there too but try to leave a little memory free for your phone to use it without problems.
Secondly, I had an 8Gb Class4 Sandisk before, used it for months without any problem with regular use.
I am using a 16 Gb Class10 SanDisk now, and if you want more storage and use heavy files, like heavy high definition videos and high definition games, you should get a Class10, the read speed is noticeably better.
On side note, each nandroid backup is about 1.8Gb in size so storing them on SD card would be better
Since I am one of those heavy backup guys I am going for a 32GB one.
One this I thought about, I can imagine the card is limited by its reader, any idea if the GRAND even has a class 10 reader, seems like the spiritual father of the grand - the S# has only a class 6 one.
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Since I am one of those heavy backup guys I am going for a 32GB one.
One this I thought about, I can imagine the card is limited by its reader, any idea if the GRAND even has a class 10 reader, seems like the spiritual father of the grand - the S# has only a class 6 one.
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I agree. Most phone's support all class of card but they are limited by their reader. But I don't know which reader is in grand but it definitely supports class 10 cards as I'm myself using it and don't really know how to check it on phones.
Here's a benchmark test using ROM ToolBox Pro :
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You get a decent idea of write speed, it's almost twice of the minimum set for any clas 10 card (10MB/s), so safe to assume that it's working good
Always use class 10 mc..
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Well I am starting to change my mind and go for the class 10, may I ask which one are you using in that benchmark?
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Well I am starting to change my mind and go for the class 10, may I ask which one are you using in that benchmark?
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SanDisk Ultra SDHC UHS-I (Class 10) Card 16GB with a boosted read-ahead speed of 4096kb
Well I bought a Transcend 32GB class 10 card, tests are similar to your tiny bit higher, but reads seems way too high (around 300MB/s) maybe SD booster is measuring the internal SD, anyhow thanks for your help!

Sony Xperia M Memory Card Support?

Will the Sony Xperia M Support the SDXC MicroSD cards?
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Will the Sony Xperia M Support the SDXC MicroSD cards?
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I don't think so.
This message was brought to you from my Sony Xperia M C1905 using Tapatalk.
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Will the Sony Xperia M Support the SDXC MicroSD cards?
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My experience indicated they do work.
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I have a SanDisk Extreme microSDXC UHS-I 64GB card in my XPERIA M
Read: ~35MB/sec Write: ~25MB/sec
BUT.....
Most high performance or larger card sizes come formatted as exFAT.
This will not work in a stock XPERIA M phone.
You will have to use something like MiniTool Partition or a bespoke SD card formatter like Ridgecrop Consultants Ltd SD card formatter to format the card (mostly using a PC) to FAT32.
If you're formatting cards over 32GB you 'must' (strongly recommended) use a cluster size of 32-64KB
Otherwise the FAT32 indexing gets way out of control as the number of files increase and especially if they're smaller files.
The default cluster size is around 8-16KB on FAT32.
Warning - I have provided the same info for an XPERIA X10i and many people could not use much more than a 16GB class6 card in their phones for whatever reason. I have never had a problem.
So don't buy a Class10 64GB microSD card thinking it is guaranteed to work, however, for me at this time I have not found a SanDisk(just happens to be the cards I have) SD card that doesn't work.
Tested
SanDisk Ultra 4GB
SanDisk Ultra 32GB
SanDisk Ultra 64GB
SanDisk Extreme 64GB
I also have a microUSB "Galaxy Note Connection Kit" Model: DR03-S2 which allows an external SDcard to be mounted.
So i"ve had a SanDisk Ultra 64GB card (usbdisk) and the internally (sdcard1) SanDisk Extreme 64GB both mounted at the same time.
Corroboration, please
It would indeed be awesome if I could fit a 64 or 128 GB SD-card in my Xperia M. Can someone please corroborate that this actually does work? I don't want to buy a 64 GB card before I am absolutely sure.
Best,
Magnus
Any microSD card of any size and class will work in in Xperia M. Since we don't have exFAT support, when you get your card you'll need to reformat it as FAT32, and then it'lll work fine, but you won't be able to store files bigger than 4GB (FAT32 limitation)...
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Many thanks for confirming that this will work. I will order a 64 GB card. Does anyone have any clues as to the quality of the audio chipset on the XM? I think the sound quality for mp3 playback (in headphones) is at least as good as on my iPod. Does that seem reasonable?
Best,
Magnus
are SDHC UHS-1 compatable ?
Hey, has anyone used UHS-1 compatable sd card, I was thinking of buying Samsung MicroSDHC 16 GB Class 10 Evo.
Presently I use Scan Disk Class 4 , which give Read/Write speed as 15.07/5.01 on A1 Sd Benchmark tool
Please post your card details and read write speeds.
My main aim is to be able to play games without lag while using folder mount
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Any microSD card of any size and class will work in in Xperia M. Since we don't have exFAT support, when you get your card you'll need to reformat it as FAT32, and then it'lll work fine, but you won't be able to store files bigger than 4GB (FAT32 limitation)...
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Getting exFAT support is easy but i don't have enough time to build kernel. If someone is willing to get exFAT support on his/her kernel i can certainly help.
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My phone Sony xperia M support Samsung Evo+ 32GB Class 10 micro SDHC Card Upto 80 Mbps speed
In case anyone's still wondering, I've just tested my Xperia M2 Aqua with a 64GB Kingston Canvas micrSDXC card. It just needed to be formated to FAT32 just as other users have reported. I could test my 256GB Samsung EVO on it but it would be such a chore to back everything up haha.
In theory, there shouldn't be a problem, if one SDXC card works, then it should be possible for higher capacity cards to work as well.
EDIT: silly me! I didn't realize this thread was about the original Xperia M! haha. Anyhow...

Kingston 128GB Class 10 SD Card review

Kingston introduced its 128GB Class 10 UHS-I Speed Class 1 (U1) microSD for smartphones and
tablets last year. Since this is a class 10 Card, it promises a minimum data transfer rate of 10MB/s.
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The company doesn’t reveal maximum read and write speed, but we will test out both the read
and write speed of the card. How good is the card? Let us find out in the complete review.
Several top-end and mid-range smartphones now support 128GB microSD cards. Even low-end
Lumia devices support 128GB cards, according to Microsoft. We tested this card from the top-end
Galaxy Note 4, Note Edge, HTC One M8 to mid-range Samsung Galaxy A5, Galaxy A3 and several
other smartphones, which worked fine without any issues. We also tried it on the Moto G (2nd
Gen), but it did not work since it supports microSD card only up to 32GB.
Here are some benchmarks to show how this card performs.
Read/Write speed test using.
CrystalDiskMark x64 – USB 3.0
Read/Write speed test using CrystalDiskMark x64 – USB 2.0
Sequential read speed was around 87 MB/s and write speed was around 30 MB/s in the
CrystalDiskMark benchmark using USB 3.0. Using 2.0 you get sequential read speed of 35 MB/s
and write speed of about 23 MB/s. As you can see, you get 118GB of usable space in the 128GB
card.
Read Speed measured using HD Tach – USB 3.0
Read Speed measured using HD Tach – USB 2.0
Read speed was steady at 80 MB/s using USB 3.0 in HD Tach. Using USB 2.0 connection, it was
steady at 35 MB/s. Both these tests make it clear that using a card reader with USB 3.0 support
lets you transfer data faster between your PC and the card. Data transfer speed will be different
when you are using it in a smartphone. Let us check the transfer speed of the card in a phone.
Read and Write speed using A1 SD Bench for Android
The read speed was around 53.9 MB/s and the write speed was around 10 MB/s with the A1 SD
Bench app for Android. Some testing apps like SD tools and SD Card Tester did not work and
showed errors, hence we could not test the speed using those apps.
Conclusion
The Kingston 128GB Class 10 microSD XC card offered impressive and steady write speed and
read speed for a UHS-I U1. We have come a long way in expansion memory. Few years back
512MB and 1GB cards were the top-en, now we have 128GB cards. Since we now have
smartphones that is capable of recording 4K videos, which takes of several GBs of space for a
few minute video, having a 128GB card handy lets you store several hours of 4K videos. Having a
memory card slot in your smartphone is always useful if you play more games in your smartphone
or store a lot of media content, and if it supports 128GB microSD cards, it would be even better.
Main thing you should notice about the 128GB cards is the compatibility. Check the official
smartphone or tablet maker’s website to find out if your device supports 128GB cards. Even
though most latest mid to high-end devices do, some smartphones only supports maximum 32GB
or 64GB cards. The Kingston 128GB SD card is available for $99.99 in the U.S. Kingston also introduced high capacity UHS-I
U3 microSDXC cards few months back. We will be reviewing the Kingston 64GB UHS-I U3
microSDXC card soon, which offers 90MB/s read and 80MB/s write speed.
Wow. So fast. My 32gb EVO Samsung microsd is already OLD
Nice
Hahah
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Nice review ! ??
Thank you for reading!

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