General Question about the Blue Angel - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

I am getting started with the Blue angel (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini

1. I propose you to search for information about differences between 2003 and wm5/6. Ity is hudge.
2. Look for problems you might encounter after update (not to be suprised). WM5 was never officially prepared and unleashed for BA, so it's straightforward and problem-free, but it works fine after all, if you know what you are doing.
3. Yes, WM5, WM6 and even WM6 work fine on BA (with some usual small problems). Speed is very good and much better than many other devices (for example my HTC Hermes is MUUUUCH slower that BA).
4. It's worth updating mostly because new software is usually not compatibile with PPC2003 any more.
5. Browsers: you have to test and decide on your own what you need, how you want it be feed and what are your restictions (speed, security). Like there is no one car for everyone (apart from Ford T) there is also no one browser for everyone. Test, try and choose on your own. You have the choice now (IE, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Netfront and 2 other experimental based on WebKit).
Opera mini is a java applet: you request a page, it is prerendered on proxy server in Norway (at Opera) and send back to your phone in scaled down version. Cheaper, faster, but less secure (never use it for your online banking). Works on virtually any java-enabled cell phone with internet access.
Opera Mobile is full Windows Mobile browser that downloads and renders everything directly on your phone. Worth trying, especially upcoming 9 series looks promising (alphas are already circulating on XDA forums).

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The Best Internet Browser

helo all
What is the best and the fast internet browser for HTC Universal using 3G connections ...
anyone have an experience ??
cheers..
If you ask me, Opera 8.60 and Netfront 3.3 are the only two contenders in this area.
After having extensively evaluated both of them I have put my money on the Netfront 3.3 now available in commercial versions
Regards
i hv used both of them. Opera provides the fastest internet experience and also the best internet experince. Pages get loaded pretty quickly
Hi kdskamal,
I absolutely agree with you that page loading in Opera 8.60 is faster than on Netfront 3.3. Furthermore the page rendering on Opera is also closer to the desktop experience. But one thing which made me opt for Netfront 3.3 is that if you load really large pages then the scrolling gets really slow and almost unusable. For example try the site www.pocketpcdubai.com and you will notice the difference.
The other thing which made me prefer Netfront 3.3 is the fact that this is the only browser whcih can handle file attachments at the Hotmail site. Finally support for flash objects was again another plus for me to buy netfront.
Regards
Opera seems to provide the best functionality and performance.
If you want to preserve Microsoft integration and services, stick with IE, but you will suffer from sluggish performance and minimal features.
Catch 22
If someone gets me an open source, I can build an awesome browser :lol:
Opera 8.6 is highly recommended
Preferably with a registry hack to act like IE6 (I use Tweaks2K) to ensure that you can still do all the secure stuff. The registry hack just allows you to load pages that may be a little strict about what browsers can view them.
I just installed Opera, and works great. Only pda pages will be shown very small, but that's why there's a zoom function. :lol:
The only thing is that the LogMeIn plugin you have to install for using this function doesn't seem to work with Opera, only on Microsoft IE or is it just me again???
Of the two (Opera and Netfront), I prefer the new Netfront 3.3 - install a narrow font on your Universal, and you can render all pages comfortably in the normal screen area. The stylesheet support is definitely the more complete, which gives perfect page layouts every time. Opera seems a bit quicker, but I find the occasional inability to tap select links to become incredibly infuriating.
Has anyone else tried Minimo yet? (Mozilla's Mobile Manifestation of Firefox)
For browsing purposes I have found it to be superior compared to others. The viewing area is huge (you don't need to set your Universal to VGA).
However, its downfalls are the amount storage and memory it uses. Additionally, it doesn't support Flash.
I'm sure future versions will be improved.
But like I said, give me an Open Source and I'll work on something :lol:

Any other Browser for the Hermes?

Are there any other browsers beside P.I.E. and Opera mini out there? I hate these 2 browsers! Please, any help would be appreciated.
Netfront, Opera for PPC (not mini) for example
Netfront is decent
you could get P.I. plus(an add-on for P.I.E), but it costs after 14 days
I've attached cab's of both
i found nokia's browser (optimized opera) on my e61 (same as n95, n93 etc.) the best, especially its minimap...alas it works only on symbian based phones
netfront
netfront....
link in rapidshare
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http://rapidshare.com/files/47783374/NetFront.CAB.html
also link to opera mobile for ppc
(rapidshare)
http://rapidshare.com/files/47783753/Opera_8.65_beta.cab.html
Minimo
Try Minimo. It can be a tad slow to open tabs, but it renders far quicker than PIE. FYI, Minimo is a port of Mozilla Firefox for WM5/6. Strangely, I haven't seen it mentioned here before.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
fluxist said:
Try Minimo. It can be a tad slow to open tabs, but it renders far quicker than PIE. FYI, Minimo is a port of Mozilla Firefox for WM5/6. Strangely, I haven't seen it mentioned here before.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
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Thanks that minimo browser is what i was looking for a java enabled browser the interface is kind of funny though but im trying to understand it.
I was about to post a similar message today. I just upgraded to the Vp3G WM6 Rom and finding that Opera mini doesn't work as well as it did on WM5 (I've tried both the 3.1 and beta 4 versions and they both act buggy and slower).
I've never liked PIE and I even downloaded the beta version of their Deepfish browser which is slow and doesn't zoom well.
I've used Piscel browser, which is great for zooming but not really for browsing quickly, plus I'm getting the memory full error too often.
I have the Opera 6.5 full mobile browser, but it's slow too. The plus is that that one will let you download stuff (such as megaupload files, etc)
I'll try the Mozilla one, but it doesn't seem too great.
The NetFront one is slow too and zooming isn't very user friendly.
I guess I'll have to wait til Opera gets their act together on the real release of the next mini, unless there's something else out there. Opera mini, IMO, is hands down has been the best mobile browser out there so far, but I wish it wasn't so buggy running on WM6.

Requested Hermes 100 Mods Help, Thoughts and Advice

Hi all,
I've been a reader (lurker) of this forum since the 8125. I have a Hermes 100 from Cingular which I have played around with, as shown on this forum. I am trying to create a fast, multimedia phone, that runs on the Hermes. I am not a techie, like many of you who know how to program, but I do admire what you've done. I could use your help......
Recently, post the last HTC upgrade, I added Black Satin, the Iphone Slider, and SPB Shell 1.5 , Diary and Pocket Plus 4.0, just to see how things work. Some thoughts (and the questions for which I seek an answer).
Do like the Black Satin add-ons, though Black was never really my color, and the HTC Shell and Diary are nice (though with Pocket Plus, gets very bloated)...still, it runs very slow....how can I:
1. Find a basic HTC shell?
2. If I wanted to ad in an interface, would you suggest the SPB Shell 1.5 + Diary or do you think Pocket Plus 4.0 is smooth, fast and multi-talented?
3. Opera or Explorer?
4. I still cannot watch Youtube, and some websites that require flash to show videos do not like Macromedia 7.0 Flash..they say "upgrade!" Thoughts?
5. I downloaded and installed The Black Shadow Video Dial Configuration, to use 3G video phone calls. But, as I am on the Cingular network, neither my brother (with the Tilt, unlocked) or my Hermes can make video calls on the network. Advice?! This would be super cool.
6. Are there "optimal" cingular internet settings that allow fastest access, or unblocked ports for 3G vid calling, streaming etc?
7. what is the best solution in terms of Iphone like scrolling and unlock? I know 4.0 Pocket Plus has it...its just "ok"...I tried to install Slide2unlock, didn't work for me.
8. I also used RealVGA, but didnt' notice a considerable difference. Is it not there, or am I dreaming?
9. Finally, should I just sell this Hermes 100 (its a "new" refurbished one from AT&T, got it yesterday) and buy a Tilt, or can I do everything I want on this baby!? I've had this type of phoen for a half a year now.....
Wow, a lot of questions, and I know you folks could say "read the 500 pages of the forum"...trust me, I've spent hours in these threads. I would appreciate your help, and I've honestly been trying, but it gets a little too technical for me past installing Cabs and following instructions, to be honest. So, any help you can offer would be VERY greatly appreciated.
All the best, George
Ok, here are answers to some points of yours:
4) There is no flash enabled browser for Windows Mobile. Only workarounds exist for watching the flash videos off Youtube and similar pages. So you will not be able to see those pages in near future.
7)iPhone scrolling - I use fTouchFlo - it works in all of the programs but has its flaws, I use s2u2 on my Hermes with no problem. One more thing to note is that Hermes touchc screen is different form iPhone touch screen and what we have (including SPB scrolling) are workarounds that still need a time to mature.
8) RealVGA? You are missing the point - both Hermes and Tilt have QVGA screen - there is no way to get it to VGA (simply because your screen has four times less pixels than VGA screen). It will not work because it is intended for VGA devices not for QVGA we own.
This is a developer forum - if you want less technical focus you can head to HOFO or other fora... I know lots of people in here read a lot... but they do not seem to think about what they read and then they tend to have really stupid questions. If all you want is media phone go for iPhone - there will not be 3G functions - but the scrolling works - there is no hassle with third party applications and everything can be done in only one way - the Apple way. The WM platform lets you do much more but it comes at price - in here I think you should get your feet wet in some basic techie stuff other than installing CABS. Hope I helped at least little...
PS: I had a hard time being new to the WM too - it needs time - I think right now you do not know what exactly you can expect from your device.
Well, first of all:
Thank you for your reply. True, it is called XDA Developers....and I am, in fairness, not. And as for an Iphone, wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pool - I like the flexibility of this HTC WM6 phone I have...but frankly apart from some BASIC at the age of 9-11yrs, programming is not a forte ;-)
I'll try your solution to the scrolling.....and of course, I'll keep reading, but I figured (a. You folks know this stuff so well, and b). I can't be the first person to come in with these questions. After all, It's not like I'm not trying,...I flashed something like 20 roms yesterday testing them all out! - on that note, I love your benchmark thread.
Anyway, thank you for your help and the help of anyone else who gives it!
best, George
Ehhm to put some things straight...I know even less programming than you do I have a very same opinion of an iPhone - this thing can not be called "smart" phone at all. What you stumbled upon is the fact that there are two basic groups of users of our PDA phones - first ones are user tha want their phones just work - they are not interested why something does not work, they just want a certain standard to work and as long as it does they are happy. Second group is geeks like me (and the majority of users of this forum) that are just happy to upgrade their phones to whatever newer and try it out. The problem is that for example cooked ROMS have bugs/issues (not that official ROMs have none) - issues vary from small glitches, memory leaks, not functioning buttons to random hardresets. If you go way of the cooked ROMs usually you will have to spend more time with your devices than the first group of users just to fix glitches. The other thing is that cooked ROMs and applications there can enable you do much more with your phone - for example resource hogging HTC Home plugin was not intended for Hermes, touch scroll ability as well and we can continue - but folks over here made it possible - that is what makes this forum so great. Butif you choose to go this way you will have to read, read and read again - because nothing is perfect. Our devices have limitations too - hermes processor has computing power roughly equal to Pentium 100 MHz (that is over ten years old processor for desktops) - so some tasks are hard to be adapted (that is why most of the programs we use are watered down versions of desktop programs - as well as screen size is quite limiting for browsing and so on - if you want a VGA screen than you have to count with: your device being a tad slower (4x more data to be displayed over QVGA) and also bigger battery drain (4x more pixels to power up). Said that you can get some of the things you ask for in your questions, but some are still a challenge...
Use vtap for youtube viewing. Just google it.
Opera. Definitely Opera.
Well, AT&T does not support video calls so unless you go out of the country its useless to you. Besides, your phones dont even have the front facing camera, so it would be hard to do anyways.
Mcorrie:
Thanks, I think right now, I am at:
1. A Basic Shell for speed and customization (not sure which yet)
2. Web Browser: Opera
3. YouTube Browser: VTap
4. Scrolling: TouchFlo or s2u2
5. Additional Scrolling: Possibly Touch Commander
6. Maps: Google Maps
7. Wifi Searching: WIFIFOFUM
8: Microsoft Office
9. Phone Dialer (includes 3G Video??): Unknown
10. Camera/Video Program: Unknown
11. Media Player: Unknown
As for Video Calling, I figured there was a way to bypass the Cingular restrictions, but I have not found it yet. After all, it is a pipe...so it should be possible, right?
Some more from me:
4. Scrolling: TouchFlo or s2u2 (s2u2 is only for unlocking! no other scrolling so you can use both))
5. Additional Scrolling: Possibly Touch Commander or Slither's Flash cube (the same effect, but free)
9. Phone Dialer (includes 3G Video??): Schen's Kaiser dialer 2 (or something like this)
10. Camera/Video Program: CoolCamera - this one is commercial, but best there is
11. Media Player: TCPMP 0.81 - freeware plays nearly everything: audio video, with plugin even .flv and so on...
Karhu,
Dakujem for the additions: I am also adding Radio 1.48 as that seems to be the most stable for Brooklyn, NY according to a June report....I'm going to test myself, but as of now:
1. A Basic Shell for speed and customization
2. Web Browser: Opera
3. YouTube Browser: VTap
4. Scrolling: TouchFlo and s2u2
5. Additional Scrolling: Slither’s Flash Cube or Touch Commander
6. Maps: Google Maps
7. Wifi Searching: WIFIFOFUM
8: Microsoft Office
9. Phone Dialer (includes 3G Video??): Schen's Kaiser dialer 2
10. Camera/Video Program: CoolCamera
11. Media Player: TCPMP 0.81
Now, I just need to figure out what else needs to go in this thing! Trying to avoid bloat, but don't want to leave out needed functionality! I think maybe I'll find someone's mostly stripped down Rom and just add in - its a start.
More comments:
I think if you are looking for less bloated system you should stick with basic WM5/6 look - Wisbar advance that can customize the whole look of the system runs on the top of the basic shell and thus takes up some precious RAM space. The same goes for bells and whistles like s2u2 or slither's Cube - function of s2u2 is to lock/unlock the device - but a part of the program runs in background as a service and consumes 200k of RAM even when you use the device - it is not much but as you proceed to customize the device the amount of bloat grows.
I think you should also look for some decent task managers: I personally like wktask and Quickmenu, but pBar is also nice. HTC xButton is quite a bloat in this matter. You should think what is the main purpose you will use your phone for - CoolCamera is nice but due to hardware limitation of the Hermes those pictures will always look....like taken by a phone.
When it comes to extra lite ROMs beware - they tend to have memory leaks and some Super storage ROMs even random bricking - hardreset needed to make them work again.
Several other variants:
Peek Pocket in wifi scanner (just one small exe)
Core Player instead of TCPMP (Core player is the commercial succesor of freeware TCPMP)
You should also consider some backup program if planning to fiddle more with your phone:
If you want to save your messages, mails, contacts and stuff go for free PIM Backup.
Hope that helps a little
1. Find a basic HTC shell?
What do you mean? If you want HTC TouchFLO-like shell (the basic one is TouchFLO 2D), get ThrottleLauncher. You can install TouchFLO, but you need to flash your ROM. You also can use Spb Mobile Shell 2 with Diamond theme (search Diamond theme for Spb Mobile Shell in xda-developers forum)
UPDATE : Now it's possible, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541750 It's the TouchFLO 2D from HTC Touch2 (HTC Mega).. Download the "PATCHED MANILA FOR WM6.1 and non-HTC devices" if you have 6.0 or 6.1
2. If I wanted to ad in an interface, would you suggest the SPB Shell 1.5 + Diary or do you think Pocket Plus 4.0 is smooth, fast and multi-talented?
Spb Mobile Shell!
3. Opera or Explorer?
I usually use Explorer for short time browsing, and Opera Mobile for long time or serious browsing, because we must wait for about 5 seconds for Opera to boot up
UPDATE : With Opera Mobile 10, the Opera is not slow anymore, I'm currently using Opera Mobile 10 as my only and favourite browser on my Hermes..
4. I still cannot watch Youtube, and some websites that require flash to show videos do not like Macromedia 7.0 Flash..they say "upgrade!" Thoughts?
Download the YouTube app, you cannot view on the Windows Mobile browser..
UPDATE : With SkyFire browser, you can..
7. what is the best solution in terms of Iphone like scrolling and unlock? I know 4.0 Pocket Plus has it...its just "ok"...I tried to install Slide2unlock, didn't work for me.
Upgrade your Windows Mobile to Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5
UPDATE : Use Slide2Unlock2 (S2U2), it works on my Hermes (running official WM6 ROM)
8. I also used RealVGA, but didnt' notice a considerable difference. Is it not there, or am I dreaming?
Hermes's screen is QVGA (320x240), so you cannot force Windows to view VGA (640x480)
9. Finally, should I just sell this Hermes 100 (its a "new" refurbished one from AT&T, got it yesterday) and buy a Tilt, or can I do everything I want on this baby!? I've had this type of phoen for a half a year now.....
No, I think Hermes' body is more sturdy than the Tilt (Kaiser)
Epic necro. Another month and a bit and you'd have had 2 years!
Timing is everything when replying to a thread. Especially when it's almost 2 years old!

Multiplatform(!) review: Opera Mobile 10 beta released!

I’ve thoroughly tested the brand new Opera Mobile 10 beta on all the supported mobile phone platforms (Windows Mobile Professional / Standard and Symbian S60). In general, apart from some problems, I liked what I saw – particularly on Symbian and the touchscreen version of Windows Mobile.
The browser is available for download HERE for both operating systems. For Windows Mobile, a unified download (for both subtypes) is provided.
1. Windows Mobile
Also see the XDA-Devs discussion, which starts on THIS page.
1.1 Touchscreen devices
I’ve installed it on the HP iPAQ 210 and found it great. Sure, it lacks some features (for example, the excellent dynamic zooming & text reflowing features of some (not all!) of the 9.50/9.70 builds and the (hacked) Flash Lite support), but, on the whole, I was more than happy with it. It doesn’t load much faster than the older version (9 seconds as opposed to 10) and, as has already been pointed out, lacks some of the goodies; however, it’s a pleasure to use.
Unfortunately, it (still) doesn’t support Opera Link, one of the best features of Opera Mini and the desktop Opera browser. (One of the reasons I’ve completely switched to using Opera on the desktop.)
Also see THIS demo for more info.
1.2 Non-touchscreen (Microsoft Smartphone) devices
1. Unfortunately, the two hotkeys are in no way supported on any of the tested Smartphones (on the s710, including the ones on the hardware keyboard). Therefore, a cursor emulator is needed to access even the menu at the bottom and almost everything. In-page scrolling and, on the Quick access page (default one and the one that comes up when you open a new tab), switching between the address input field, the Google field and the main surface area works OK. (Hotkeys are supported just great on Symbian S60.)
2. There are no button scrolling shortcuts, as opposed to the SP version of 8.65 (the last Opera Mobile version to have a dedicated MS Smartphone version – see my MS Smartphone Web Browser Bible HERE).
3. While you can’t use the hotkeys in fullscreen mode, with SPHelper, you can still access the two buttons in the lower right and left corners. (Hotkey-based scrolling – 2/4/6/8 – works just great on Symbian S60.)
176*220 (old) MS Smartphones running the official WM5 (tested on the HTC s310 (Oxygen)): excellent (tested running from memory card) program / page load time; responsive. Landscape mode isn’t supported – as opposed to the s710.
HTC s710 Vox (320*240 newer Smartphone running the official WM6): running great. However, multi-function keys on the hardware keyboard don’t work (always the numeric values are inserted) – to enter them, you need to use either the on-screen keyboard (which, BTW, is rendered properly even on a 176*220 Smartphone in Portrait mode) or the numeric keypad.
All in all, until the hotkey bug is fixed (operating the browser with SPHelper is really painful), you will want to stick with either the old 8.65 version or Opera Mini. (This, again, only stands for the non-touchscreen-enabled MS Smartphone platform, NOT the touchscreen-based one!)
2. Symbian S60
It’s nice to see Opera to return to Symbian, which they have seemed to have completely neglected in the last few years.
I’ve tested OM10 on the Nokia N95 on firmware version 30 and found it excellent. It has very quick program / page loading; OK multitabs (albeit, after opening two – large, about 600k+ - Wiki pages, when minimizing Opera mobile, it was immediately terminated from memory, showing Opera indeed took up quite a bit of RAM memory. This was expected – if you need multitab supporting up to 30 pages open at the same time, your only choice is Opera Mini.)
Basically, it’s as easy to use as Opera Mini 4.2 and has a lot of additional goodies – for example, text copy/paste is supported and works, unlike in 4.2. (Note that the text copy/paste in the current beta of Opera Mini 5.0 works just fine on Symbian.)
The only problem I found was the lack of support for Flash Lite 3 – to access Flash Lite content, you’ll still need to use the built-in Nokia Web browser instead. (Nevertheless, you will want to use it was a last resort to play back, say, YouTube videos. Dedicated YouTube players are far better at playing back videos – no stuttering, unlike when using Flash Lite.)
Thanks a lot Amigo!, as always great reviews
I´ll post a link to this on Opera Thread
Cheers,
Menneisyys said:
I’ve thoroughly tested the brand new Opera Mobile 10 beta on all the supported mobile phone platforms (Windows Mobile Professional / Standard and Symbian S60). In general, apart from some problems, I liked what I saw – particularly on Symbian and the touchscreen version of Windows Mobile.
The browser is available for download HERE for both operating systems. For Windows Mobile, a unified download (for both subtypes) is provided.
1. Windows Mobile
Also see the XDA-Devs discussion, which starts on THIS page.
1.1 Touchscreen devices
I’ve installed it on the HP iPAQ 210 and found it great. Sure, it lacks some features (for example, the excellent dynamic zooming & text reflowing features of some (not all!) of the 9.50/9.70 builds and the (hacked) Flash Lite support), but, on the whole, I was more than happy with it. It doesn’t load much faster than the older version (9 seconds as opposed to 10) and, as has already been pointed out, lacks some of the goodies; however, it’s a pleasure to use.
Unfortunately, it (still) doesn’t support Opera Link, one of the best features of Opera Mini and the desktop Opera browser. (One of the reasons I’ve completely switched to using Opera on the desktop.)
Also see THIS demo for more info.
1.2 Non-touchscreen (Microsoft Smartphone) devices
1. Unfortunately, the two hotkeys are in no way supported on any of the tested Smartphones (on the s710, including the ones on the hardware keyboard). Therefore, a cursor emulator is needed to access even the menu at the bottom and almost everything. In-page scrolling and, on the Quick access page (default one and the one that comes up when you open a new tab), switching between the address input field, the Google field and the main surface area works OK. (Hotkeys are supported just great on Symbian S60.)
2. There are no button scrolling shortcuts, as opposed to the SP version of 8.65 (the last Opera Mobile version to have a dedicated MS Smartphone version – see my MS Smartphone Web Browser Bible HERE).
3. While you can’t use the hotkeys in fullscreen mode, with SPHelper, you can still access the two buttons in the lower right and left corners. (Hotkey-based scrolling – 2/4/6/8 – works just great on Symbian S60.)
176*220 (old) MS Smartphones running the official WM5 (tested on the HTC s310 (Oxygen)): excellent (tested running from memory card) program / page load time; responsive. Landscape mode isn’t supported – as opposed to the s710.
HTC s710 Vox (320*240 newer Smartphone running the official WM6): running great. However, multi-function keys on the hardware keyboard don’t work (always the numeric values are inserted) – to enter them, you need to use either the on-screen keyboard (which, BTW, is rendered properly even on a 176*220 Smartphone in Portrait mode) or the numeric keypad.
All in all, until the hotkey bug is fixed (operating the browser with SPHelper is really painful), you will want to stick with either the old 8.65 version or Opera Mini. (This, again, only stands for the non-touchscreen-enabled MS Smartphone platform, NOT the touchscreen-based one!)
2. Symbian S60
It’s nice to see Opera to return to Symbian, which they have seemed to have completely neglected in the last few years.
I’ve tested OM10 on the Nokia N95 on firmware version 30 and found it excellent. It has very quick program / page loading; OK multitabs (albeit, after opening two – large, about 600k+ - Wiki pages, when minimizing Opera mobile, it was immediately terminated from memory, showing Opera indeed took up quite a bit of RAM memory. This was expected – if you need multitab supporting up to 30 pages open at the same time, your only choice is Opera Mini.)
Basically, it’s as easy to use as Opera Mini 4.2 and has a lot of additional goodies – for example, text copy/paste is supported and works, unlike in 4.2. (Note that the text copy/paste in the current beta of Opera Mini 5.0 works just fine on Symbian.)
The only problem I found was the lack of support for Flash Lite 3 – to access Flash Lite content, you’ll still need to use the built-in Nokia Web browser instead. (Nevertheless, you will want to use it was a last resort to play back, say, YouTube videos. Dedicated YouTube players are far better at playing back videos – no stuttering, unlike when using Flash Lite.)
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OP , i have installed you app, good app but a little clunky in my phone.it shuffled for a long time to enter CNN. i like the icon most. LOL
I like it
Slightly out of date review. And now Opera Mobile 11 does not support Windows Mobile.
Opera mini 11 is for me the best Browser on Android platform.

Best Browser for X1?

I've used both IE and Opera, and it seems that IE is a lot faster (I always thought opera was supposed to be the fastest).
The browsing speed of my xperia, combined with the horrible keyboard doublepressing letters makes it a useless piece of junk to me for internet uses!
I had a better time using my X1 as a wi-fi router and reading manga on my iPod touch using its opera, it was amazingly fast (pages load within 1 second), however on the X1 itself, it would take FOREVER.
My top 3:
1. Opera
2. Skyfire
3. Internet Explorer.
Opera 10 for me. As a 'bit on the side' I also keep Picsel, it's a convenient browser and all-rounder for opening all sorts. At the time of me getting it a few years back, it was a semi-legal Samsung port that was protected better than White House. I loathe IE and never ever use it.
opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera
browser
Hi there, I have experimented with many browsers, and the one browser i have found to work the best is Skyfire. I couldn't log into my banking webite due to many javascript and all sorts of funny things, and skyfire was the solution. I also use the others, as I have found that some work better than other. I don't think there is a master solution, but a question of experimenting and finding "horses for courses"... my 2 cents worth ....
Anton
There are many threads like that here. Use search little and you will see.
Also there is no clear solution to this answer. Everyone have different best browser.
For me, that is Opera 10.
spikegotti said:
opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera
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I have Opera 10 on my X1 and its not bad, however I was just wondering if anyone has managed to get www.tvcatchup.com working on their phone yet ? The browser keeps telling me that it needs flash so I installed flash light for windows mobile and it still come up with the message that it needs flash..
You won't get full flash on WM. Your best bet is to wait if they release Android 2.2 for X1, but flash would still be super slow and choppy.
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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I know that one.
I am currently using Opera Mobile 9.5 but it sometimes crashes my phone when you first launch it or close the program.
So what is the best lite Internet browser for the X1?
opera 3.0 mini hand down !!!
paul c said:
My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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can i get the cab that's free?? i feel opera is better!!!
i am using the one called UC browser , its very good , fast and reduces GPRS traffic , i used to install opera mini with my p1i and p990i before , and it was better than UC and much more effective with the traffic reducing , but with my X1 , the only opera mini wich can be installed is the Opera mini 5 beta , which unfortunately doesnt support Arabic symbols ....
the opera mobile browser ( not mini ) consumes GPRS data like a monster , and is not economic at all
UC Web - Wonderful browser open 10 or more tabs!
UC Web is a wonderful browser I have been using. Both on the PPC and WinMo Standard. Can open lots of tabs (have often opened about 10!) and not restricted to 3, as in Opera 10.
Has proxy based compression to reduce data usage, if needed. Unlike most, have prefered it over Opera, Opera Mini, Teashark, IE, Skyfire etc. Though for some specific uses one may want to use other browsers, UC Web has been my default browser for a long time.
Also very suitable in downloading stuff.
I'm using Opera mini beta 5. It's really thumb friendly, fast and snappy.
My favourite browser for everyday use is opera 10. It's fast, displays most sites correctly and I like it's user interface.
For all sort of flash based sites I use Skyfire but I cannot use it as my standard browser because of the lack of tabbed browsing and the chessboard issue.
My default browser is Internet Explorer since I frequently use programs that rely on the default browser and I experienced some problems when I changed the default browser to Opera.
In china we use UCweb
Opera mini 5 is the fastest one then opera mobile or IE.

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