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help me choose 3300 or 3600

hi guys. need some help!! time to upgrade frm mda vario. looking at 3600 aka orange m700 and 3300 aka tmobile compact 3/ o2 orbit. if we leave out the 3g function of the 3600 which would you choose. if the advice is 3300 would it be tmobile without wifi or o2 orbit, although tmobile web and walk tariffs are good. please heeelp. thanks in advance.

The 3600 has a better CPU and a much worse casing. The question is: Do you really need the fast CPU? If you want to play a lot of games (mainly 3D or action), go for the 3600. Otherwise the 3300 is the better choice!

I'd get the 3600. It now also has GPS, is only slightly more expensive and has 3G which might make it easier to sell in a year or so.

I use both the HTC P3300 and the T-Mobile MDA-C-III and to be honest I cannot remember when I last bothered using the WiFi on the P3300 - the T-Mobile GPRS is great (even better at the price when compared to O2 tariffis).
OK 3G would be a bonus, but in my experiance it hammers the battery so as yet I still don't like it as a useable asset, valid point about future value but I don't sell my units after replacement so not relevant. With HTC announcing WM2006 for the Artemis perhaps this is the way forwards (not sure about the 3600 as I have yet to see anything about WM2006) - Mke

Think you should go with the 3300. I've had the M700 (3 times actually) and even though its a beautiful machine,the casing put me off.Looks and feels so fragile. The GPS is good but the 3300 has it as well in a much smaller package.Speed on the 3300 (mine is the xda Orbit version) is pretty good especially for everyday use.I use mine for watching medical lecture video's constantly and have had no need to overclock it (poss if you wanted to but not a necessity) so the 400 cpu of the 3600 is not that necessary - good but not necessary. Also with all my 3600 I had the ring delay issue where someone would call you and it would ring over their side about 5X before ringing on the actual phone.Missed calls a lot because of that . Also not that its restricted to the 3600,but I had my first ever total SD card corruption with a ppc on it. I know its also been documented in the 3300 (there seems to be some fixes eg sentry) but that really biased me against the 3600 variants. As for the type of 3300 you should go for,I reckon the Xda Orbit is the better one. Xda O2 phones come regularly unlocked and the Orbit so far has not been an exception.Hence you can use a T-mobile sim on it. Have your cake and eat it too. In the UK, data usage is generally expensive or not as good as what you get in the states so its always good to have your WIFI options open and use if YOU want and not if your service provider wants you to!

Wait for a Polaris or get an E-Ten??

Hi guys,
I am in two minds as to what my next purchase should be. I like the new HTC Polaris and it is what I know, as I currentlt have an Artemis. However the screen resolution is low, not VGA 640x480 which I would like in my next PDA.
I have noticed a few devices which are made by E-Ten that seeem to do all that the artemis does - but they do have a vga screen such as the x800 and x500 models.
Has anyone tried one of the models and would they recommend them? Also do they have a lively developer/modding scene like the Artemis?
Thanks - underzone

eten is very good pda phone, more fast than HTC, but their production will discontinue.

The ETEN looks like a good phone but there's more support for HTC phones. And now that I have a touchflo ROM, I don't know how I could go back to not having touchflo.

I have used 3 mode Eten PDA.And for me HTC better because can mod Rom for your PDA
Polaris for me look very cool,use chip QualComm 7200 (fast) Touch Flo 2.....and...
===> Polaris +1

I had the same dilema, I have an artemis wich I love, but I have it for a year already and HTC is not putting out anythig much better for me to upgrade (and it does not look like they are planning on launching any good vga device soon) so I ordered the Eten X800, it is supposed to get here tomorrow, I'll compare them and will let you know what I think.
P.S. The only thing that stops me from leaving HTC is this site, there is no such a thing for any other brand out there. And I'm hooked.

palmbluetooth said:
I had the same dilema, I have an artemis wich I love, but I have it for a year already and HTC is not putting out anythig much better for me to upgrade (and it does not look like they are planning on launching any good vga device soon) so I ordered the Eten X800, it is supposed to get here tomorrow, I'll compare them and will let you know what I think.
P.S. The only thing that stops me from leaving HTC is this site, there is no such a thing for any other brand out there. And I'm hooked.
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Yeah its this forum & the excellent brewed roms that really makes me want to stick with an HTC... but then again I do really want a VGA screen. decisions, decisions...

How about the new P5500 - slimmed down artemis with touch interface, keyapd, gps, HSDPA etc...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/08/08/htc-5500-nike-touch-slider/

Thinking about Asus, doubts are the processor and the screen size but like the size slightly smaller than the orbit, but little in it, I do miss a keypad.
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/Asus-P526

I got the x800 today, and it is a good pda but I don't think you can compare it to the artemis, the screen is nicer and having 3g it's a whole different browsing expierence, but apart from that it is a bit slow and the design is not as nearly as nice. It's not a bad pda, if it was my only pda I would gladly keep it, but choosing between this and the artemis, I would for sure keep my artemis until I'll find something else. (Maybe I'll try the gigabyte Gsmart i350, if I can get hold of it in america)

Previously got an Eten G500, nothing to do with X500 neither X800.
But i really, really prefer the artemis !
G500 was big, heavy, rom was unstable, and materials used was bad quality and many plastics cracks, painting surface goes away,...
Now i'm really happy to have sold it...
Polaris ===> +1

underzone said:
I like the new HTC Polaris and it is what I know, as I currentlt have an Artemis. However the screen resolution is low, not VGA 640x480 which I would like in my next PDA.
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For me it has to be either Polaris or iMate 9502 - 9502 has VGA, same memory as Polaris (eten is short) and still has all the hardware buttons dropped on the Polaris...

What will be your next handheld???

For a span of 4 years I have owned a few handheld devices namely:
in chronological oreder:
HP RX 3715
FS Loox 720
FS Loox N560
Imate Jam
Treo 650
and the Artemis
I like the inbuilt keyboard of the Treo 650, I also like the VGA screen and fast processor of the N560 but the GPS sucks, and I like the OS stability (though still not perfect) and the quick GPS reception of the Artemis.
I like the single hand operability of the Treo 650.
Im getting sick and tired of using the stylus on my Artemis. You cant really use single hand comfortably.
Now Im looking for an upgrade. Something that combines all what I like.
The Kaiser doesnt get my attention due to the fact thats its very bulky. I dont like the sliding Keyboard.
Treo 750 doesnt have WiFi so its not worth it for me.
Polaris is also out of my wish list.
So to sum it all up, what Im looking for with my next handheld is:
1. fast processor at least 400mhz
2. inbuilt GPS and WiFi
3. big ram and rom
4. inbuilt keyboard like the treo
5. VGA screen
6. high megapixel camera
When will HTC answer my prayers???
If only Treo 750 had GPS and WiFi it will be the ultimate handheld for me.
And what will be your next handheld??? Yes you... I know you want an upgrade... I just know it.

touch cruse
vga screen can be a pile of problems with older apps/games and the likes

the treo 750 is slightly bigger then the kaiser. if the 30g make a big difference, i'm not so sure. i ordered my kaiser already, i will get it on monday...

it looks like this is what Im looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=158759

Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?

petervbeck said:
Kaiser...just auctioned...
but in batterylife i think it's hard to top our Artemis, don't you think ?
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In my own personal opinion, OUR ARTEMIS is the best PDA at the moment! And I have decided to keep it until I find the perfect one for me. That is if the Treo 750 will be upgraded with GPS and WiFi. Or if HTC makes another Artemis with a Treo Keyboard (aka Thumb board) then thats a no brainer for me.

there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...

what about the 02 XDA Stellar?

petervbeck said:
there are three things i really don't like with Artemis: USB1, no keyboard and camera, everything else is ok imo.
Sometimes a faster cpu would be nice, but this will drain batterylife for sure...
i'll post my expirience with my Kaiser when i get it next week...
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I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???

nm8 said:
I dont mind USB1, and the camera, its there but its unusably crap anyway. My nokia N70s camnera is better.
If only the Artemis had a keyboard and faster processor it will be a keeper.
Anyway Goodluck woth your coming Kaiser...btw have read about the video playback that Kaiser owners complain about???
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i like the external access to my storagecard, this is really convenient, also the keyboard on kaiser - i love it, specially the material it is made of...
Yes, i heard about the video issue - just tried to watch 30 minutes movie with tcpmp - imo no problem. so far i can live with it. The camera is great if you're using it with daylight - autofocus is working very well..but if it is dark, it's again not really usable...
if your comparing artemis and kaiser in weight - the first time you'll be shocked, it's really heavy compared with Artemis (specially the battery)
the only real issue is batterylife as expected....first it was only one day! using gps only with batterypower uses a lot of power
now i flashed another rom and radio rom, it's two days, maximum.
the speed, camera, (ok, speed & camera comes with Polaris) and keyboard of kaiser with the batterylife of artemis - this would be a great device

Hi Pete
Nice to hear youre happy with your brand new toy.
For me, Ill keep the Artemis (this is the best PDA I ever owned so far) for long until something comes out that will really make my heart thump and say GET THAT ONE!
Cheers!!!

Hi ya,
yes i'm happy - but selling my artemis ? NO WAY !
Cheers

Does the Cavalier have the same battery as the Dash ?

cuz I'm thinking of upgrading and I'd like to know if they have the same battery since I have an extended battery that works very well. I would really appreciate this information guys/gals
Its my first post in this forum, I usually post on the Excalibur group
TIA

no i dont think so

Definitly not......I have both phones and the extended battery for the Dash - they are not interchangeable I'm afraid.....

S620 vs s630
Ihickin:
I am considering the S630 to replace my 620 and I see that you have both. Is the S630 a worthwhile upgrade?
Thanks

s620 pros:
slim
sexy
s630 pros:
3G
faster speed

ffergie said:
Ihickin:
I am considering the S630 to replace my 620 and I see that you have both. Is the S630 a worthwhile upgrade?
Thanks
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I would agree with oldsap's comments........but my experience with the S630 has been less than stellar. On the original HTC WM6 ROM I experienced a LARGE number of lock-ups, data loss and general dis-satisfaction.
The excellent work done by cruzzmzz on this forum for the WM6.1 build is definitly the way to go.....it's still got a couple of little bugs in it but on the whole *much* better than the WM6 ROM

When will HTC replace the Excalibur?

I wonder when HTC will provide a replacement for the Excalibur? I know there is the Cavalier but it has always appeared buggy and not as well designed.
I have had my Excalibur for 2 years now .... which is an absolute record for me ... during my ownership I have danced with the; Touch, Touch Dual, Samsung i780, Omnia, BlackBerry Curve, i620 and EVERY time I come back to Excalibur ...
I love the keyboard, the form factor and now 6.1 .... but it would be great to have GPS and 3G ... and I also just hanker after something fresh ....
It seems an age since it was launched and I know the Treo Pro is HTC ... but I find the Smartphone version of windows so much quicker to navigate and use....
Come on HTC give us an update ....

I agree it would be awesome to have the Excaliber2 with GPS and 3G enabled.

True, Tmobile 3G and GPS would absolutely be awesome !!!!! and of course Wifi and the rest of the work, I also prefer Windows Smartphone better than the Pocket PC

All that plus a faster cpu and I would be happy!

Excalibur2
I totally agree with u guys i have mine for 3yrs and it works great(other than going through about 8 hard resets and 16 cold booths.. lol) I am still loving my phone i would really hope that htc does come out with a second version

I think so, Excalibur is great but the battery is low capacity. Do you have any experience to fix this matter ?

I can think on this for an Exaclibur replacement:
Let´s wait a few months to see it!!