The Data Button (#5) in the Comm Manager can't be selected to turn it on most of the time. After I turned the data (EDGE) off to use Wifi it can't be turn back on.
Anyone else having this prob?
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You shouldn't needity need to turnity turn it offity off.
If Wifi is connected you will use Wifi... And if the data button is grayed out it means there is no data connection anyways.
Wifi is not connected and I do need to turn data on. The Wifi could be turned off and it still does this.
i think it will only turn on when you use a program that uses data. i could be wrong, i noticed that to but didnt really pay much attention to it.
I could be using Opera Mini and the Data section can't be selected.
A data connection, eg GPRS, will be turned on automatically when connection manager determines that it is the 'cheapest' connection to use. No ROM that I've ever tried will let you turn it on per say using the GUI. If you are having problems using a data conneciton, it's probably best to check the defaults selected in the connection settings or in the registry.
To turn it off, the GUI should work, but sometimes it's a bit slow to update, i.e. to realise that there is a data connection present.
Shining Light said:
I could be using Opera Mini and the Data section can't be selected.
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How I disallow any application to connect to the internet in HD?
Just to make sure not charged.
no data from modaco
is that just for grps? I am using 3g. was wondering whether that will work or not.
use HD tweak
there's is an option to disable data connection, for people who are on vacation
I personally find that HD Tweak doesn't always work for all roms, and if you try to connect t to wifi using certain apps, GPRS is still used.
Use No Data and toggle off connection so only wifi is avilable for phone to use, therefore no data connection. If you want to use data connection at any time, toggle it back on. Simple, yet effective
Well guys I tried installed nodata.cab and did a reboot.
But it still activates my 3G or if available HSPDA connection.
Am I missing somthing?
But on the other hand, the on of switch of your data connection should do just that.....stay off. Whats the use of an off switch if it self activates all the time. Imagine all your light coming on at home when it gets dark!
m.dekoning9 said:
Well guys I tried installed nodata.cab and did a reboot.
But it still activates my 3G or if available HSPDA connection.
Am I missing somthing?
But on the other hand, the on of switch of your data connection should do just that.....stay off. Whats the use of an off switch if it self activates all the time. Imagine all your light coming on at home when it gets dark!
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Have you toggled it off in the app?, i.e. Internet & WAP
I have HD Tweak installed but none of the settings used, but I find that when using the 3G internet, if I press the end call key (bottom right) once, it ends internet connection for me. If I hold the end key down its set to keypad lock.
no data doesn't work at all for 3g hspda connection. That is a dangerous application name I would say.
for some reason, my phone keeps going to 'no service'. i have set it to gsm for network type and auto for gsm/umts.
i installed the no data cab because my phone always keep getting connected to the internet after turning off data connection and 3g. i even went into task manager and i don't know what else to disable that connects to the internet. that's why i installed the no data cab.
after installing the no data cab i noticed the 3g is turned on in communication manager, and i get the bars and see the big H. i turn off the 3g, and then i get no service, but then no service again.
i then went into network connection and chnaged gsm to auto. and now it works with the big H and the 3g is turned on, but even when 3g is turned on, i can't connect to the net unless i toggle in the no data cab program.
anyone please help!
radio issue?
do you think it's a radio issue?
i think its just telling you that ur in a 3g/HSPA area not that ur actually connected to 3g
but it didnt do that before, it would just be no service and I would have to change to 3g..not sure why.
True, the 3G or H icon will sometimes show up to tell you that those signals are present, even if the phone is not actually connected to them.
The toggle in the Comm Manager is basically useless. It will connect automatically if you open your browser or other program that uses the data connection, even if the Data Connection is toggled "off". The only exception is if you are Airplane Mode.
If I remember correctly, you also need to toggle the Data Connection off in the Comm Manager, after you toggle "off" in NoData. I don't think NoData can shutdown a data connection that is already open. So I guess the bottom line is that you have to use BOTH the Comm Manager and NoData to toggle the data connection off and on.
radio reflash
So the odd thing is, no issue occured after I reflashed a different radio. Maybe it was the radio? But yes, I do have to use NoData and CommManager together. I had to soft reset after installing.
When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?
It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
pantera70 said:
NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.
When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.
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So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Hi,
If I read the HTC Desire manual page 128:
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[B][U]Turning the data connection on or off[/U][/B]
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Press HOME > MENU and then tap Settings > Wireless & networks.
Select the Mobile network check box to turn on the data connection; clear the check box
to turn off the data connection.
We can simply check/uncheck the above option to turn on or off the data connection.
Did you get any problem for turning it back on (from off) ???
Because I read the old HTC Hero (which has this option as well) has problem with this.
When you turn off data, and turn it on again, the phone cannot use data connection unless you soft-reboot.
Reference:
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/issues/detail?id=33#c10
No probs with mine
I've used this method since last Saturday, saves so much battery on my Desire and when I want the net, I can turn it back on easily enough or if at home just use Wi-Fi.
No problems getting it to turn back on again.
Does this mean I'll have to manually turn data off if I want to use wifi?
Reason why I ask is because I checked my net counter and all my data has come from the data (3G) portion of my phone whilst nothing via wifi.
Probably me being a bit naive as I thought once wifi was on the phone would know to use that automatically as opposed to 3G...
EDIT: Just had a look on my phone and under settings --> wireless and network --> mobile network (uses phone for data connection when wi-fi unavailable) is checked...so would I be correct in assuming that when wi-fi is available data won't be used??
and in Mobile Network Settings --> enable always-on mobile data (uses more power on some mobile networks) is checked (could this be the culprit?)...
Thanks for your feedback, that is certainly a good news.
Btw, does HTC provide a small widget to toggle this easily?
Or you must go through the settings -> Wireless Network -> ... ?
choccy31 said:
I've used this method since last Saturday, saves so much battery on my Desire and when I want the net, I can turn it back on easily enough or if at home just use Wi-Fi.
No problems getting it to turn back on again.
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there is a widget you can add on your screen to do this (and others) goto widgets then scroll to settings hit the arrow on the right and you get several icons you can drop
airplane mode
bluetooth
gps
mobile network (data)
wifi
Press and hold the power button, it's an option on the quick list.
I've noticed that whenever I turn off my wifi connection, the mobile data connection automatically turns itself on. This is quite annoying as I usually have it turned off to conserve battery.
Is there any way to disable this?
Thanks in advance.
No as the Desire is a smart phone which always needs a connection to the Internet to update - it's working as designed
Well if the user specifically wants to turns off the APN connection and keep it off until manually turned on, I don't see why that's such a big ask. I only want to have control of my phone, not the other way around.
I use Honolulu Team's Extended Controls to switch both wi-fi and mobile data off when not required.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/extended-controls/com.extendedcontrols
Spannaa said:
I use Honolulu Team's Extended Controls to switch both wi-fi and mobile data off when not required.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/extended-controls/com.extendedcontrols
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I also use this, but if I have wifi turned on for example (with mobile data turned off prior), when I turn off the wifi the mobile data immediately activates without my say so.
There must be some way to disable this automatic connecting.