Input Delay in S630 - HTC Cavalier

Hey all,
Sorry in advance if i'm repeating any know subject. if so - kindly direct me to the information
I have a S630/Cavalier branded orange,Israel.
I've encountered a major delay in the text input. if i press one button the text is shown, and if i press quickly on another button - the next letter would not be inserted.
This is really a frustrating situation, as the cavalier was supposed to solve my messaging problems...
Is it a known issue?
I have a couple of suspicions - one of them is that my hebrew UI (which is a software installed on the device) is slowing down the reaction time of my device. Haven't tried without it, because the hebrew language is part of my rom.
BTW - any educated guesses 'bout CID unlock & WM6.1 on cavalier?? (my orange carrier's rom is kinda slowwww...)
Cheers,
Tomer

Hi,
Did you upgrade to wm 6.1 ?
Vago

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Am I the only one having Keyboard problems with WM2005?

On messages especially sometimes if I type too fast (and I can type very fast ) it misses out letters or just pauses for ages.
Most of the time the first letter I type in a message gets repeated. Sometimes it just decides to repeat one letter as if the key was stuck down.
On top of this messaging and any application where the device is trying to bring up a user input component is SLOW.
Ive not seen these problems mentioned anywhere yet. Is it just me?
Lewis
No, I've got the same problem. But I don't use that keyboard all that much. The main point for me was to get a phone/PDA with WLAN built in, something I believe the 9090 was first with.
same here, it's very annoying..
with the mms app this doesn't happen, input is as fast as in 2003..
Yeah, it is a bit laggy, still acceptable for me.
isn't it possible to somehow replace the messaging module? i use the keyboard very often and this can get really annoying..
I cannot speak for everyone, but I have found a solution that works.
Apparently, the Messaging applet is not getting enough clock cycles to properly process the keyboard input.
For me, simply closing Internet Explorer does the trick. (go into Memory, and make sure it's not listed in Running Programs) Try it now.
If it still occurs, soft reset the phone, and then attempt to use Messaging. Does the problem still occur? Probably not.
Let me know if this solves the issue. I will look more into it when I get the free time.
I found the keyboard horribly slow. That's straight after resets of all kinds and definately no IE.
I have the repeating problem at times, and I never run IE or any other programs at the same time minimized. I use PocketPlus, so programs aren't minimized, they are closed.
that's no good for me, still slow..
just installed rom 1.60c in my gf's qtek 2020 and it's fast as hell! messaging too..dont understand this strange behavior on the BA..
About the keyboard repeating, you can reduce the repeat rate at the keyboard settings..
Keyboard Issue
Has anyone actually solved the problem with the messaging program?
I downgraded back to WM2003 SE because message writing was such a pain. I would like to have WM5 but if and when someone can correct the messaging application.
Any news?
Thanks
Lewis
updated my Blue Angel to WM5 today and found no problem with typing. TheGadgetGuy's probably right about the memory.
I used to have the problem if I would type to fast it would repeat a lot, example "test" would be "testtttttttttttttttttttttt", I found a way to fix it:
A lot of people have been complaining with the same problems with the thumbboard in WM2005, well I found a way to fix it. As you know if you type really fast like a lot of us do with the thumbboard it will repeat and get stuck on a letter, example "fix" turns into "fixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" then you have to backspace it all. Well let's just cut to the chase, the way to fix it is goto your Start > Settings > System > Keyboard > and goto Repeat Settings, and turn them all the way off (To the left). Tah dah, enjoy .
^The text above is copied from Zevink.com
Had all sorts of problems with WM5, one of the most annoying was this keyboard lag... I type a lot of SMS with it so this made the device unuseable for me.
Happily went back to 2003SE
The blue angel is the biggest pyle htc ever released. That is what is wrong with the ba.
Thanks for that Mikee4fun ... not quite so helpful ...
The only hardware issue I can see with the Blue Angel is with the Radio (Both Bluetooth and WiFi) in that they both seem to be poor in range and BT unstable. That said, BT in particular, may still be a software issue as under WM5 it seems a whole lot more reliable ...
To say the BA is a Pyle (Pile?) based on the fact that an internal thrown together version of WM5 (Trust me, this is the case if you do a bit of Hex editing on a decrypted nbf file and see all the temporary bootloader code which has references to ALL HTC devices by codename) is lacking in areas is not really a solid deduction. From what I have seen of this version of WM5 which has arguably been created in weeks rather than months like version 2003SE, I would say that it is on the whole a very impressive software and hardware solution.
I only hope HTC take the decision to officially update the BA to WM5 in order to fully eliminate all the software bugs in WM2003SE as even the current version of WM5 seems to me a whole lot better than even the latest patched WM2003SE version.
I cannot see it would take them a great deal more engineering time to correct the few issues that remain such as speed tweaks and the odd driver / software update to release a very impressive WM5 version. As Maimach has already proven a number of issues were quite simple to fix (Well, for someone as clever as Mamaich anyway!!!) ...
I had poor keyboard performance (lag) - made me downgrade
Bebbo, I'm afraid that won't happen because of the wish to make people buy new hardware instead of upgrading the stuff they already have. Remember that the biggest selling point of the Wizard and Universal is the WM5. So can HTC create a good WM5? Of course! Will their customers (not us, the providers, Dangaard and Brightpoint) allow them to? Probably not.
Well about the only thing that worked on WM5 was bluetooth...
I get the damned memory error on WM2003SE.... :x
How annoying. I think I'm going back to WM2003se. WM5 isn't that great. It behaves alot like WM2003fe except buggy :S It's not worth all the hastle just for on screen soft keys.

Upgrading to WM6 Crossbow, (Please help me, i'm a total noob!)

Hey folks!
Just registered to the XDA-developers and my first post is here
I got an extremely rare windows mobile 5 pda-phone BenQ-Siemens P51 to my hands from my friend, whos father worked in Siemens during the BenQ-Siemens bankrupt.
Cool phone, bit too big tho, pretty cool functions, GPS, 1,3 mpx camera etc... But...
ITS ALL IN TAIWANESE LANGUAGE! Some kind of beta-prototype which works perfectly but splash screen is "Evaluation Only" . I don't think that this affects any way to the performance.
So i kindly ask you for advice:
Is it possible to upgrade this brilliant phone to new OS, English version of the crossbow beta. I've downloaded crossbow, tried to patch it with a program called ROMUpgradeUt.exe, but the upgrade doesn't end successfully. An error message appears to the screen, think it was #101 or #201. Im having problems sometimes with activesync when the phone is recognized as 'usb device' and active sync doesnt recognize it then. Some other times when i boot with usb in the P51, active sync pairs it and ican syncronize.
I Hope that somebody could kindly help me, since im not in the mood for throwing away hardware this expensive. I just want to get rid of the taiwanese language and start using this as a PHONE.
So please, if possible could give me specific instructions how to upgrade OS to different language.
Cheers and thanks in advance (sorry for my poor english!)
Robusto

WM6 (vanilla) VoiceMail Indicator :s

Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
joehood said:
Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
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I get a different character, for deactivate - its a full size triangle. Again, on Orange UK.
I'll try and run thru installing all the WM5 orange cabs to test on Sun - I've got our Wedding celebration party tommorow! I'll get my ass kicked if I go near it before then.......
Congratulations!
Yeah I get the same full triangle, sorry. I've seen it abbreviated to ^ on a couple of other forums so used that, but it is actually a complete triangle.(Alpha symbol?)
joehood said:
Hi there
Bored of scrolling through massive threads, maybe it's time we separate some of the issues now. Starting with...
Voicemail indicators not working correctly in WM6.
So, what are your experiences? If yours work, let us know, if not, post what happens.
I'm on Orange UK and I get an SMS from '[email protected]' and '^@' to activate/deactivate the indicator respectively.
I've been googling, and haven't found much about these messages. I think they're supposed to be Class 0 but not sure. Does anyone know which part of the OS is in charge of sorting them out and interpreting them?
Maybe this is a simple reg setting that's missing? Could someone with WM5 and on an operator using vmail notifications run a search through their registry for '[email protected]' and '^@'?
Cheers
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Yep, I have exactly the same problem with the XDA-Live 0.1 ROM. Using Orange UK.
Couldn't delete the second message. I kept getting a message about the a SIM error. Reboot of the phone and the message had gone.
Anyone worked out a fix?
No Voice Mail
Hi all,
I have the same issue with Orange UK as the rest of you. I am supprised that no one has a solution yet. Will keep an eye on this post for a fix !
I cant spend any time on this at the moment.
Setting [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\vmail\Line1\Unread]
"Count"=dword:00000000
clears the notification..
Also once in this state I dont get the initial text, but I do get the vm icon! Something keeps setting the count value to -1 which seems to get it messed up.
Cant find out what processes the notification, but it looks like its something in the base of wm5 as non of the ext rom programs seem to have any effect.
I have no problems with new voice mail indicators, missed call, new sms notifications, etc. All show up correctly. Using Cingular/AT&T..
Maybe the issue is only orange based on the previous comments???
Thanks eagle 1.
If anyone has voicemail notifications working on Orange in WM6 please post, as I'll know I'm doing something wrong.
I've tried all the customisation cabs and nothing's worked so far.
The problem is that the current WM6 rom does not support CPHS this is a set of commands that include the MWI (Message Waiting Indicator), Orange are the only provider in the UL using this feature. I feel the issue is that the bases ROM currently being used by the chef is not a final RTM of WM6 as it is missing a few features that the RTM should have. I used to have the issue when upgrading Nokia roms but with those it was a simple fix through LogoManager.
For more info on CPHS see http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=220
Thanks, that's great that we have an answer now to why it doesn't work. I guess the obvious thing to do is just wait until the final ROM's released, unless anyone with a bit more knorr-how knows of a way to add CPHS features to WM6...
Can someone try this workaround.....
http://www.miousers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=144&highlight=dialmonitored
Just dropping by, I'm flat out at work, cant spend any time on this at the moment, but stumbled over the above...This allows the device to clear the count as soon as you dial your VM, not pretty, but a temp fix...(assuming it works!)
(also found this on msdn..... http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa457989.aspx)
and perhaps even editing CEMAIL.VOL may be another route....
This isn't a problem with all versions of WM6.
As well as a SPV M3100 (Hermes) I also have a SPVM5000 (Universal) also on Orange and the notifications work perfectly on the Universal.
SPV M3100 - XDA Live 0.10
SPV M5000 - Midget 0.1
I'll try to compare registry settings see if I can spot anything obvious
One thought as to the VoiceMail indicator and differences between Universal & Hermes versions of WM6.
I was wondering if this is something that is dependant on the radio rom.
I am using the Orange radio rom on my Universal but as far as the Hermes is concerned I've left it with the 1.16.00.00 rom which I think was from prof's SIM & CID unlocker v2a
Interesting...
That could be it. Frustratingly, I updated my radio ROM at the same time as installing WM6 so I can't isolate the problem. I'm using the 1.35 radio ROM that's on the FTP. I suppose this could be where orange make their voicemail customisations.
Is anyone running an Orange radio ROM with WM6? Can you please post your success with voicemail notifications?
I am on WMXL 0.2 and left my radio on the original orange radio of 1.06.00
Since upgrading to WMXL 0.1 and 0.2 I have NOT had the spool icon - but have received the system sms's. So I don't think its radio dependant.
I haven't however run any of the orange ext rom cabs as one or more of them made my wmxl 0.1 unstable - whereas loading wmxl 0.2 and then manually entering data connections etc has given me a fast stable device (without voicemail spool icon!).
Bump......
Anyone had any luck with this yet?
Taz69 said:
This isn't a problem with all versions of WM6.
As well as a SPV M3100 (Hermes) I also have a SPVM5000 (Universal) also on Orange and the notifications work perfectly on the Universal.
SPV M3100 - XDA Live 0.10
SPV M5000 - Midget 0.1
I'll try to compare registry settings see if I can spot anything obvious
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Could you post or PM me the 'sms_providers.dll' file from the windows directory on your SPVM5000 so I can compare it to the one on the M3100 - I think this may be where the problem lies
Looks like it is down to the version of sms_providers.dll as also reported here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299072&page=2
I'll post the file from the SPV M5000 rom if still needed(They are of different size) but it will be after the weekend when I'm back home.
See post #16 from olipro on this thread, all sorted now and working perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299072&page=2
You do need the developer certs installed to use the fix though (link in the thread) and you may have to rename the new dll and do some registry editing - all the info you need is in the linked thread.

HELP ... trouble with my O2 xda IIs

dear all ...
with all my gratitude, please help me solving my problems with my O2 XDA IIs ...
they are :
1. QWERTY keypad does not respond, though the backlight is still on. How to overcome this ??
2. The del/backspace button on my virtual keyboard/letter recognizer ... also does not respond, so that i can not del the text i am wrong typing.
First, I have WM2003SE, as the default OS when the problems bothered me. Then I upgrade it to WM6 with Helmi's ROM, but the problem won't disappear ...
Thanks a lot in advance ...
the keyboard connector might be faulty , what you can do is open up the whole BA, adjust the keyboard ribbon and see if it works, if not, then change a new keyboard. btw i dont know why your touch screen wont work.. try re-aligning procedures.. if not download a new keyboard plugin to try..
Hey Man,
I'm trying to load WM6 by Helmi to my brand new IIs. I've tried using the same downloaded ROM that worked on my SX66 about 6 weeks ago, but I get errors: "Wrong country code" or "Image not designed for this device"
Please Help
Got It!
Had to use the "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe"

A question for xda gurus

Hi,
About two months ago during one of the numerous rom flashings on my SPVM3100 , I came across a strange issue. I called Orange many times and they changed my SIM card twice but finally said they don't understand this and gave it up. My SPVM3100 is over two years old - so they're not gonna replace the device.
Here's the issue:
whenever someone leaves me a voice mail, instead of receiving the normal "voice mail" notification and it's icon in Today screen, I receive a text message! These texts are unreadable (consisting of only 2 signs, like a triangle sign and an @ sign. Or an @ sign with an underline sign _).
Whenever I receive such texts , I know that I have a voice mail ! I dial the voice mail service, listen to the voice message and delete it. But each time my voice mail box becomes empty another annoying text is sent to me - perhaps cofirming that the mail box is now empty (I wish I could read this new sign language )
The phone shows that the texts are coming from the SIM Card !! (so we thought that perhaps the SIM has problems and that's why Orange changed my SIM Card twice).
This is really annoying.
The Orange tech people exhausted their knowledge for the past 2 months but couldn't solve this problem , gave it up altogether , and are now asking me to contact HTC ! (which I'm sure would be useless).
That's why I'm asking this from xda developers and gurus to see if they have any explanation for this bizarre behavior of my device.
Thanks for any insight and sorry to make a thread for this annoying issue.
have you tried flashing with a different rom? i know similar things would happen on motorola phones, and required hex editing of certain files to turn that feature off.
Read this thread
Fallen Spartan said:
Read this thread
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Thanks man.
xda gurus are truly gifted
Fallen Spartan said:
Read this thread
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Fallen,
A six-month-old critically annoying problem was solved in 30 seconds
I am sure we all know xda developers and gurus are genius.
As I said in the post, almost all technical guys & gals in Orange did literally exhaust all their knowledge & experience in the past six months to solve this issue but it was obvious that they didn't absolutely have any clue what the cause of the problem was; whereas Olipro had found the cause and the remedy very quickly.
This is really serious because Orange is a huge multi-billion corporation and they claim to have their own top developers/programmers/technicians and yet they shamelessly suck !
Now on to my second question :
On almost all original (HTC and AT&T) ROMs , the HTC Home Plugin shows the network as "Orange". But on some of the cooked ROMs the network is shown as "UMTS Orange". I know the meaning of UMTS and I understand that whether the network is shown as "Orange" or "UMTS Orange" the phone appears to function the same.
I just want to know what happens in some cooked ROMs that the phone recognizes the network of the SIM card as "UMTS Orange" and not the usual "Orange" ? I talked to some Orange technicians, their replies are really rediculous - one of them kept saying: "you must change your mobile settings" ! But she didn't have a clue what she was talking about as she didn't know where those damn "mobile settings" were and how they could be changed! I can swear she had never held an SPVM3100 or a Kaiser in her hand.
I've searched the forum but haven't been able to find a clear answer yet. I am asking this question just to improve my personal knowlege on this issue.
Thank you for your guidance and insight.
hey,
I get the same problem too when installing new Cooked ROMs.
In order to get rid of the 'UMTS' in front of the Operator name you have to edit a registry entry.
Use a registry editor and navigate to: HKLM---> Software---->OEM---->Phone Setting
In there find an entry labelled 'Enable3GLongName' And change it from 1 to 0.
Restart you're device and it should just say 'Orange'
Hope that works
Nesh
neshyd said:
hey,
I get the same problem too when installing new Cooked ROMs.
In order to get rid of the 'UMTS' in front of the Operator name you have to edit a registry entry.
Use a registry editor and navigate to: HKLM---> Software---->OEM---->Phone Setting
In there find an entry labelled 'Enable3GLongName' And change it from 1 to 0.
Restart you're device and it should just say 'Orange'
Hope that works
Nesh
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Thanks bro. Yesterday, before reading your reply I reflashed my device and
this nwe Binky11's V3.8 ROM got it right. So for now, I don't need to do the registery; however, I made a note of your advice for future reference.
I should keep reading to see what happens in most cooked WM6.1 ROMs that they get the network name as such and why the original ROMs get it right.
Thank you very much for your reply.

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