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New Tzones Hack

It looks like not every knows this.
In settings on connections on GPRS:
1- If you have the tzones Hack 5.99:
And you still using proxy hack try to change your acces point from " wap.voicesteam.com " to " epc.tmobile.com " you should get a better connection and better speed also get skyfire working !
PS: don't forget to delete your proxy and change from " connects to the wap network " to " connects to the internet "
If YOU have the new web2go 10.00:
1- Or you miss out on the tzones you will need to get the web2go T-mobile its not offering it anymore so if YOU have the 5.99 and remove it and then want it back you will have to pay 10.00 instead of the regular 5.99.
2- However t-mobile its doing IMEI checks on your phone if YOU have a pocket Pc or Smartphone the will deny the service and tell you to put the 20.00 EDGE internet (and thats not a hack) so get a friend that has a regular t-mobile phone and ask him to let you borrow his phone for a second call T-mobile ask for the web2go 10.00 they will tell you tzones 5.99 its not longe available and they will ask you for the brand of your phone (tell them the model of your friends phone NEVER TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR PHONE or they will cought you on the lie) they will also ask, I think its only the first 4 or 6 digits of the IMEI number give them your friends phone IMEI N#
3- once you have the web2go on your acct you just usually have to wait 2H. On your GPRS setting you should have " wap.voicesteam.com " and NOT! " epc.tmobile.com " as an acces point or else you will get a different page and not connect to the internet at all.
4- and most important (PS: don't forget your tricking t-mobile customer service in thinking you have a regular phone and NOT a PPC or a SP so its up to you if you want to lie and just DON'T blame it on ME! )
~~~Edited 3/26/2009 9:45 pm~~~
Ok So I didn't found this anywhere else so I'm adding it to this old post.
1$ a day for unlimited TxT, IM, WEB and 00.15C a min.
1- Get a Prepayd sim card from T-mobile (yes on prepay)
2- activate your sim card and ask for the "sidekick plan" they might ask you for a sidekick IMEI number so find a friend or something!! (I got lucky and didn't got asked for one.)
3- Once activated, get into your "Connection Setting" and on "GPRS" find "T-mobile Data"
4- Edit the "Access point" from whatever you have (usually: wap.voicestream.com) to hiptop.t-mobile.com
ENJOY!!!! ^_^ ENJOY!!!!
PS: BTW regular Internet Explorer does not work for me but email and Skyfire does.
Known Access Points:
wap.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com
internet3.voicestream.com
epc.tmobile.com
hiptop.t-mobile.com
Tzones Proxy:
216.155.165.50:8080
ENJOY!!!! ^_^ ENJOY!!!!

I used this epc.tmobile.com for a while. It's certainly better than the wap.voicestream.com. However, a month later I noticed an entry on my monthly bill, something like "Internet Data Usage xxMB". There's no extra charge. But I switched back to wap.voicestream.com just to be on the safe side.

With the new proxy I believe that they will be charging you, so its better to stay with wap if anything.

No! this already has been discussed before NO! extra charges with the new APN check post N#5 on this forums for more details http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t-mobile/400961-tmobile-bill-after-using-epc-tmobile-com.html

tuppaacc said:
No! this already has been discussed before NO! extra charges with the new APN check post N#5 on this forums for more details http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t-mobile/400961-tmobile-bill-after-using-epc-tmobile-com.html
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Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know

jdoggraz said:
Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know
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I was waiting on that response Was even going to say jdog should know he one of there dangmen

what kind of charge we looking at jdog, will bump us out of 5.99 to 10 or 20$ internet, or per useage kind of thing?

psylink said:
what kind of charge we looking at jdog, will bump us out of 5.99 to 10 or 20$ internet, or per useage kind of thing?
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You will see a 20 dollar charge pretty soon... Haha this is going to be hilarious for all the people running the 5.99 hack... they will get that 20 dollar charge in no time... lol...

I'm still using the old APN...
I'm curious jdogg... how can T-mobile charge anyone without their authorizing the change to their plan? I would think that they would have to contact their customers beforehand...?

I have a really old phone and I can get 5.99 T-mobileweb on it, and i'm thinking of buying a T-mobile shadow or other phone and just put in my SIM, so I can take advantage of this hack.
Can someone confirm if any of this is still working?? I really need to know before I buy anything. Thanks!

odnan89 said:
I have a really old phone and I can get 5.99 T-mobileweb on it, and i'm thinking of buying a T-mobile shadow or other phone and just put in my SIM, so I can take advantage of this hack.
Can someone confirm if any of this is still working?? I really need to know before I buy anything. Thanks!
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Still working for me haven't any extra billing on my bill

jdoggraz said:
Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know
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u should make that a quote i swear to god u know how hard it makes me laugh when u do tht lol

uansari1 said:
I'm still using the old APN...
I'm curious jdogg... how can T-mobile charge anyone without their authorizing the change to their plan? I would think that they would have to contact their customers beforehand...?
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If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.

What would be the correct settings for this on t-mobile dash

i don't agree
Bupahs said:
If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.
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Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.

audiobastard said:
Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.
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i want the faster internet, i might do this. if i dont get a g1 first,.

No! way man
Bupahs said:
If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.
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1st-
T-mobile will not charge you $20.00 for one simple reason because its not good marketing... They rather keep you paying your cheap ass $5 or 10 dlls per month for more than 2 months than charge you $20.00 dlls for that one time and then you decide to cancelled the service because you think their assholes, they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo.
(If T-mobile be thinking the way you were thinking I bet they actually lost more money than they would make from those $20.00 dlls, so the worst it could happened its just that the port gets blocked and that's it.)
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It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think only the smallest percentage of people that actually pay for internet do this so called "Hack" therefore Tmo has nothing to worried about and even so people that don't want to pay for internet suddenly came across something like "$5.99 Tzones Hack" they suddenly decide to get the web so therefore you have a person who wouldn't pay $20.00 bucks for web but suddenly its paying 5 bucks for it. T-mobile wins whether its a small profit out of someone who wouldn't pay for something like $20.00 bucks.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge, so theres nothing to be thankful for.
Its just simple marketing strategy that's all... Duh!

tuppaacc said:
1st-
T-mobile will not charge you $20.00 for one simple reason because its not good marketing... They rather keep you paying your cheap ass $5 or 10 dlls per month for more than 2 months than charge you $20.00 dlls for that one time and then you decide to cancelled the service because you think their assholes, they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo.
(If T-mobile be thinking the way you were thinking I bet they actually lost more money than they would make from those $20.00 dlls, so the worst it could happened its just that the port gets blocked and that's it.)
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It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think only the smallest percentage of people that actually pay for internet do this so called "Hack" therefore Tmo has nothing to worried about and even so people that don't want to pay for internet suddenly came across something like "$5.99 Tzones Hack" they suddenly decide to get the web so therefore you have a person who wouldn't pay $20.00 bucks for web but suddenly its paying 5 bucks for it. T-mobile wins whether its a small profit out of someone who wouldn't pay for something like $20.00 bucks.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge, so theres nothing to be thankful for.
Its just simple marketing strategy that's all... Duh!
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they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo
Not so easy if you signed a contract.
It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think
No one said it would it's the users who pay for it.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge
Maybe not a good idea to speak about a mod like that?

audiobastard said:
Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.
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Are you in law school too man? Your argument sounds like one based on contracts principles...
Anyway, don't worry about that guy... he likes to take a holier than thou attitude on the Tzones hack because he opted to pay 4 times as much and feels that we're the reason his data costs are so high (which he has yet to prove), while at the same time, he shares hacked software with everyone on his mediafire account. Pot calling the kettle black.

i'm a bit confused if somebody could just clarify. I'm running WM 6.1 on a Dash with Kavana's ROM through Tmobile. I just got the web2go offer online for the 100 mb+unlimited texting for $19.99 by switching out my dash for some generic motorola phone.
My GPRS settings are for wap.voicestream.com under T-Mobile Data. After doing a bunch of searching and reading, especially after this thread I can't determine if this unlimited data usage hack is still applicable to the currently offered web2go system. I missed out on the tzones hack, but this thread mentioned using the web2go for a similar function. Do I have to change any of the settings or place any proxys or will tmobile somehow just forget to monitor my data usage through this plan?

T-mobile Internet problems?

I'm running the proxy hack and everything was running fine until earlier today. I can't seem to get network connectivity, though my signal strength is at full bars. I'm in the Toledo, Ohio area.
Anyone else having problems? I haven't changed any settings, so I'm thinking either it's a network issue or T-mo has closed access to this hack...?

It's normal.. These threads pop up frequently here and on other sites. I've had mine go down for a day or two then it's back up and running as normal. Can't really complain with how much you are getting for $5.99

Gee here is an idea, STOP MAKING MY DATA CHARGES HIGHER!!!!!! Its people like you that make me have to pay 20.00 a month for data because you're too cheap to pay for what you use.
I hope T-Mo finially blocks all those ports, finds the users (not that hard you know.. and they have been known to do it in the past few months) and charge them for past over usage so my bill can become lower. Let you thief's pay for a while

Bupahs said:
Gee here is an idea, STOP MAKING MY DATA CHARGES HIGHER!!!!!! Its people like you that make me have to pay 20.00 a month for data because you're too cheap to pay for what you use.
I hope T-Mo finially blocks all those ports, finds the users (not that hard you know.. and they have been known to do it in the past few months) and charge them for past over usage so my bill can become lower. Let you thief's pay for a while
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I knew that you would say this or another member and i totally agree.

stylez said:
I knew that you would say this or another member and i totally agree.
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Am I becoming that predictable lol
Its a major pet peeve of mine. I am perfectly capable of hacking the network for free service but choose not to, not because I have any higher morality then the next person but only because it ruins it for everyone in higher costs for data services. These morons don't think it through. When they (T-Mobile) finally do close all these back doors (and they will, many areas have already had them closed and penalties levied against the abusers of the service) they are going to want to recoup all that lost money.. which means even higher data charges for everyone. Including the idiots that stole it and drove it up in the first place.
I am paying 20.00 for a service that should be half that at most only because of idiots stealing the service.

Bupahs said:
Am I becoming that predictable lol
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I remebered your previous posts regarding the Hack (Thiefery) and totally understand where you coming from as it's all got to be recouped and people don't realize this, not only that i pay for my usage of which i have 500mb and with using Opera Mini that does me for a month, without streaming etc as when mobile the phone is used as a phone "Communication Device"
Lets just hope Tmo shut these down soon it'll also stop silly questions regarding the Hack (Thiefery)
Not sure Thiefery a word but sounds good

Thanks to the ONE person that replied. To the other off-topic ranters...if you have a problem with T-mo's holes...switch to another provider. Good luck finding any other that's cheaper even with T-mo's so called markup.

uansari1 said:
Thanks to the ONE person that replied. To the other off-topic ranters...if you have a problem with T-mo's holes...switch to another provider. Good luck finding any other that's cheaper even with T-mo's so called markup.
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Fist off we have an issue with users that make other users pay for the data you steal, so it wasn't off topic, like you can see i'm not in Tmo so your quote isn't to me and Bupahs is paying top notch for you....
Won't be long till Tmo cut these cheap ass hacks and i hope you get a bill to pay for the data you have stolen as it's not hard to trace.
So the issue is with users not the provider....

Always payed $19.99. I'm not a hack I'm a modder.

uansari1 said:
Thanks to the ONE person that replied. To the other off-topic ranters...if you have a problem with T-mo's holes...switch to another provider. Good luck finding any other that's cheaper even with T-mo's so called markup.
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LOL, is that supposed to be some kind of intelligent remark? You want me to switch providers so you can continue to steal? LOL thats almost cute.
Fact is T-Mobile in the past few months has started to charge people that steal data with proxy hacks, just wander on over to t-mo signal forum and read all the cry babies that got busted with a couple hundred dollars in past due charges for using the data. Theft of service is theft of service dude, just try to get out of it when T-Mobile bills your account, know a good lawyer? you'll need him. so please do continue to hack the system, just remember your IMIE, phone number and model get logged each and every time you do.

To me the first priority when I got my phone was to make sure I had unlimited internet(data) service, cause I knew it was going to cost me more in the long run in any other way. I had heard about the proxy hacks since before I bought my dash and to me is not worth it , with the problems that come with it , from not getting the proper connection to getting caught by the providor and ending up paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollards for how long you hacked the system. Not worth it.

pfunkside said:
Always payed $19.99. I'm not a hack I'm a modder.
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as only the best are

i had the 5.99 hack for about two months & (like you guys said) realized it's not worth it. i really didn't feel like getting stuck with a huge bill, the service for the t-zones was horrible (you could never use it roaming). to me, it's worth paying the $15 more / month.

[Q] Crazy question......BUT..... is there a way????

so i tend to use my slide for tethering purposes, as for i am never home there is no sense in paying another 40$ for home internet ontop of already paying 90$ that i am for my phone espically if ill never be home to use it
now tmobile speeds are great on average ill hit 4.2 or higher mbps and its quite lovely.... but tmobile has instilled there new tethering jive for the extra 15$ a month.... now am i the only one that thinks its absoultly stupid to have to yet pay 15$ EXTRA just to use what im already paying 90 a month for........ might just be me
but anyways, so i recently hit their sill 5gb max, and well needless to say they have nothing but KILLLED my speeds, and i mean KILLED em.... my best speed these last few days has been measly .8mbps.... call me stupid.. but i think thats highly pathetic on tmobiles part to pull that kinda crap
my question is.... is there a way to block what im doing or cover it up in some manner so that in therory, tmobile wont be nazi's to say the least about it, and kill my speeds.
i mean its patetic when i try to reinstall an app i lost and it download so slow, that i leave it running over nigt while i sleep and it finishes an hour before i wake up
anyone else have this issue with tmobile as well.... id love to hear some thoughts
thanks

Well there's a way to mask the UA (user agent) ID on your browser. That would work. Basically when they allow you to browse the web, their servers check to see what browser you're using in order to determine certain settings, and of course, whether or not you're tethering. This will prevent them from knowing that thus, no $15 charge. It won't prevent throttling though, in fact you may get throttled quicker since you'll hit 5GB a lot quicker.
Just google how to change the user agent ID of your browser and you'll figure it out. I'm not sure but I think it may cause issues when you get on certain websites but that should be minimal.

[INFO] VZW UNLIMITED Data - Tips from a Throttled Power User

I originally posted information on how VZW actually does throttle 4G data. They claim to only throttle 3G connections but I can see obvious speed adjustments in a specific line that I severely exceed the normal usage on, my connections are slower than a more typically used line.
I am fine with being throttled and was offering my experience in what the thresholds were, I posted because of recent news about AT&T and a lot of misinformation about unlimited data usage and carrier's throttling. I was trying to quell the fears from experience because I highly doubt a single one of you is throttled or ever will be whereas I am in the top 5%... probably the top 1%. – Essentially that I am on the carrier’s side in their right to do so and that it’s not so bad when it happens.
What I got was a lynch mob over my very atypical data usage. My data needs are far greater than any plan currently offered so instead of paying $500+ a month in overages I admitted in my post to using Wireless Tether. - This is where the pitchforks and torches came in. If you don't use this app then so be it, I am Frankenstein’s monster and you want to string me up... if you have ever used the app then put down your pitchfork, you belong at my side because there is no difference in using it for 1kb or 1tb.
I read my contract and the terms of my service and do not believe I have violated my specific agreement but if I sign a new contract then the verbiage would change so that I would be in breach.
Know your contract and understand what you are signing, some marriages don’t even last for 2 years… It’s good to understand what you are signing up for especially if you are on here looking for instructions to root your phone or how to install one of the MANY tethering apps for rooted and non-rooted phones.
Someone (mwalt2) mentioned that I could still get the Mobile Hotspot enabled with unlimited data so I called Verizon and talked to a half dozen people, only the online rep would confirm that the specific feature code he gave exists… This is the closest as I have come in a year to getting Unlimited Mobile Hotspot data.
My final conversation with VZW today, I talked to a really awesome rep who agreed that my data usage was high but never questioned why. Actually, he avoided mentioning or asking me any questions about my usage other than the initial “Wow, you use a lot of data”. He told me the feature code I mentioned isn’t available anymore and he couldn’t add it to my plan; feature codes don’t ‘expire’ because people who had it added while it still existed need it for their plan to bill properly. So he could see it but he wasn’t able to add it.
My attempt was to add the feature for Unlimited Mobile Hotspot data; he could only offer me a 2GB plan for $20 or sign me up for a MiFi for an additional $10 for the line and then $80 for 10GB (They only double the data on phone plans).
His final words were, “Just keep doing what you are doing. There are no plans to get rid of people with unlimited data and at very least, if they do eventually, you have until the end of your contract to use it.”
This isn't my free ticket nor should it be yours, I will take it for what it's worth.
MY FINAL COMMENT:
I was trying to help the community with a contribution few of you will ever experience but ended up just getting chastised, threatened and called names. I will close this thread by saying: The VZW reps did not have any bad comments, no names, nor did they threaten to kick my arse. They have a better picture than any of you of my usage as well as a clear understanding of what the policies and terms of my agreement are. Every single Verizon rep I talked to today was nice, didn’t threaten to terminate my contract or tell me that I don’t “Need to use…” whatever feature/app was causing me to use so much data. - This is why I am with Verizon; I was a human talking to humans. I did not, nor should I ever, have to justify what I use my internet for. – I am sorry I even posted this but I did learn a lot so it wasn’t a complete waste.
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After all this time and crap it's as easy as getting into your features online to add the 4G mobile hotspot... it simply attaches to your unlimited data plan. (Comment#82) - FACEPALM -

Well, as long as you apologized for making everybody pay higher prices for data plans.
Oh and btw, what's your phone number? I'm not going to report you to Verizon or anything, I promise.

compnird said:
Do I feel guilty? A little... it's people like me that forced VZW to get rid of the Unlimited plan. So those of you using 5-6GB a month are forced to buy an expensive plan... sorry!
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Don't be. Tiered plans have nothing to do with capacity and everything to do with keeping revenue per user up despite declining voice usage. It has everything to do with paying a $400+ commission to Apple for every iPhone sold. As you know first hand, traffic shaping can be handled without across the board cutoffs.
You keep fighting the good fight. Strangle their network til they take it away from you. Fight the man, because he's been fighting all of us for years. He will lose, first by giving us unlimited off-peak data back. Then, he'll give us unlimited 24/7 access back too. We've seen this all before with voice.

What the heck! That's a lot of data in a month! I don't accept your apology.
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There was alot of speculation whether Verizon's unlimited data plan was truly unlimited back in the d1 days. Judging from the amount of data you have used I guess it is really unlimited I've always been tempted to tether to my Xbox when I'm away from a connection but thought it would lag to much.
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ATnTdude said:
You keep fighting the good fight. Strangle their network til they take it away from you. Fight the man, because he's been fighting all of us for years. He will lose, first by giving us unlimited off-peak data back. Then, he'll give us unlimited 24/7 access back too. We've seen this all before with voice.
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In all honesty I don't think of myself as "fighting the man". I just believe that we should ALL have a plan that fits our specific needs. They simply don't offer one for me any longer so I am forced to do something they frown upon.
I agree though, they screwed with the voice plans back in the early 00's and lost enough people, I almost jumped ship in 2001, they eventually brought back the unlimited talk and gave us more options like family share and others... SMS and MMS are the same way, they finally give me enough text allowance that I don't go over anymore but before it was either pay per text, 100 or 500... now I can pay for unlimited.
Someday they will bring back unlimited data or offer it at a considerable markup. Until then, I will continue using my data as I need it and will bail and go elsewhere if they ever cancelled it.

Zane_Grey said:
I've always been tempted to tether to my Xbox when I'm away from a connection but thought it would lag to much.
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I play online all the time with friends... I actually have had my daughter watching Netflix or Amazon videos on the tablet while I play Halo online.
I only had and issue once when my phone decided to reboot mid-game.
I literally had more issues and lag when I had Comcast Cable.
Give it a try sometime... Keep in mind that at home I have full signal 4G LTE so you may not have the same full signal I do. My Ping times to the Live servers are around 60ms.

compnird said:
I play online all the time with friends... I actually have had my daughter watching Netflix or Amazon videos on the tablet while I play Halo online.
I only had and issue once when my phone decided to reboot mid-game.
I literally had more issues and lag when I had Comcast Cable.
Give it a try sometime... Keep in mind that at home I have full signal 4G LTE so you may not have the same full signal I do. My Ping times to the Live servers are around 60ms.
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How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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tysdad08 said:
How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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Read my original post at the top..... I use a LOT!

Cool story bro.

schizrade said:
Cool story bro.
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I'm not a fan of this saying. But this time, it's fitting.
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That is a ridiculous amount of data...

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I'm not a fan of this saying. But this time, it's fitting.
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Neither am I, but yes, it seems very fitting.
OP, people that are unable to get a decent dataplan for a decent price thank you. Why you would brag about this is beyond me. Just get a FiOS or uVerse line.
But hey, carry on.
Just to add, what you do with your line(s) is between you and Verizon.

Damn home internet is affordable!
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**** i was hitting the 200 GBs w Sprint myself. Just remember people with out us, these companies aint ****. So give em a run for there money. At some point people get screwed over by the big companies and as we being human dont like to get played so it becomes a playground w these scums. Its a win lose or win win lose lose factor. Just gotta go with it. Its to show those comps how we as spenders want what we want. Again, we give them our money to provide the service. So if people wanna go there about to doing these things.. Let em. If our president doesnt listen to what we demand than **** we push it down there throats and push the limits to get something done.
Ex: Bank wants to sell my condo for 114k but best ive been offered is 99k, so what do i do is simple tell the bank either take the money or ill foreclose. Simple as that and they took the money, I split and we happy.
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I tether on sprint and hit like 30gb but don't do it officially because they cap it. I wouldn't do it if there was an affordable decent service where I live there is only one ISP which is over prized. So sometimes its necessary to do things that are frowned upon when what you need isn't offered.
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**** i was hitting the 200 GBs w Sprint myself. Just remember people with out us, these companies aint ****. So give em a run for there money. At some point people get screwed over by the big companies and as we being human dont like to get played so it becomes a playground w these scums. Its a win lose or win win lose lose factor. Just gotta go with it. Its to show those comps how we as spenders want what we want. Again, we give them our money to provide the service. So if people wanna go there about to doing these things.. Let em. If our president doesnt listen to what we demand than **** we push it down there throats and push the limits to get something done.
Ex: Bank wants to sell my condo for 114k but best ive been offered is 99k, so what do i do is simple tell the bank either take the money or ill foreclose. Simple as that and they took the money, I split and we happy.
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I hit the thanks button out of sarcasm...

People actually wonder why they are capping wireless data and throttling users?
/boggle

I play Xbox live off a terrible 3g connection just fine. I use at most 10 gigs a month if I play ALOT. I pay for an unlimited plan. Suck it if your upset because you came to Verizon late.
Edit: Verizon is capping the data because they can. Not because we use a lot of data because they can get away with it. They cap it and make you pay when you go over. They aren't doing it to be fair to the people who don't use as much they do it to make money.
tysdad08 said:
How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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All I got from OP's post was "I'm an honest scumbag. Honest. "
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Sprint sent me a no-no letter

So after over 2yrs of using my unlimited data plan anyway I chose to do so, I got a letter last week basically saying I need to stop tethering. I've been using WiFi Tether - TrevE Mod for as long as I've had my phone to connect anything from my laptop at home or occasionally at work I'll connect my work laptop or let a coworker (good ol' AT&T throttling him) during lunch. I read this on Sprint forums, which makes complete sense to me:
The contract you signed also is for a specific plan, that states you have UNLIMITED DATA. Dan Hesse himself even stated that UNLIMITED means "no limits, no throttling and no data caps" - meaning you legally couldnt limit data, based on the actual plan a subscriber signs on a contract.
Sprint also states that as part of the Android platform being Open, one is able to download and use any apps the customer sees fit. That would include tethering apps. Part of Net Neutrality that Sprint also agrees with the FCC on is that customers can not be limited what they access or how they access the internet, this would include using the phone as a modem as a device how they access internet.
Also if you want to discuss morals and ethics on contracts, Sprint also states that any materially adverse charge/change in the contract will result in waivers of early termination fees, so not only is limiting someones data a materially adverse change/charge, but so is raising the Administrative Fee like just happened, to which Sprint breaches their own contract. With that being said, if Sprint can breach the contract so can a customer, because in order for a contract to be legal, BOTH PARTIES MUST AGREE TO ALL CLAUSES, and since one changes it on a whim, the contract isnt agreed to by both parties, thus, the contract isnt legal and is null and void.
Im sure the customer who decides to bring this to small claims or arbitration would win the case.
It not as if using my laptop will somehow make my phone pull faster internet speeds, so WTF is their issue?! I stream music for a better part of my 10-12hr day, 7 days a week...I'm a heavy data user no matter what! I get great 4G signal at work, I get **** 3G service at my home, so it's a slap in the face that they're not holding up their end of the contract, yet spent the postage to send me a thread letter before Christmas.

Not to be a jerk, but come on now. It's a **** move by Sprint to send that letter, but they are not completely in the wrong. You are and have been aware that tethering is treated as a separate paid service outside of the unlimited data included with your phone, and for 2 years you have failed to live up to the terms of your agreement.
They could handle the situation with a little more grace, but you are not a martyr.

Actually like most, I didn't read the actual contract...I just said yes and keep paying. I know they wanted $30 to use their tethering app, but just like stocks apps on an unroored phone, I've rooted it to remove and add apps as I see fit. BMW doesn't tell me they're going to take my M5 back because I took out driving down a dirt road vs only keeping it on pavement, so Sprint shouldn't worry about how I use my crappy signal. Splitting my water hose with the neighbor doesn't mean I get twice the pressure, it means I'm splitting that same pressure twice, but ultimately it's still the sanme pressure. My signal is no different. I can't get 4G at home, isn't that breach of contract? They tried getting me to sign contracts for free tablets, but when I told her I get **** service at home, why would I pay $20 per month for something I can hardly use...silence on her end until I said no thanks.
So just like using an IP annoymizer when I used to download movies, is there a way to prevent them from seeing what I'm streaming from and/or two?

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Actually like most, I didn't read the actual contract...I just said yes and keep paying. I know they wanted $30 to use their tethering app, but just like stocks apps on an unroored phone, I've rooted it to remove and add apps as I see fit. BMW doesn't tell me they're going to take my M5 back because I took out driving down a dirt road vs only keeping it on pavement, so Sprint shouldn't worry about how I use my crappy signal. Splitting my water hose with the neighbor doesn't mean I get twice the pressure, it means I'm splitting that same pressure twice, but ultimately it's still the sanme pressure. My signal is no different. I can't get 4G at home, isn't that breach of contract? They tried getting me to sign contracts for free tablets, but when I told her I get **** service at home, why would I pay $20 per month for something I can hardly use...silence on her end until I said no thanks.
So just like using an IP annoymizer when I used to download movies, is there a way to prevent them from seeing what I'm streaming from and/or two?
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I'd like to apologize for coming off harsh and unfeeling earlier, it was a ****ty thing to say on a day where the whole world could benefit from a little bit of understanding and goodwill. Charging for tethering is a crappy business model and I empathize with your position. Unfortunately Sprint (and frankly just about all cell carriers) doesn't feel the same and they have the legal contract to back it up.
I'm not sure what you can do to mask your usage as I'm not sure what behaviour it was that brought you to their attention in their first place. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable of Sprint's network monitoring capabilities can chime in with some advice.

No need to apologize, I'm just annoyed by the hypocrisy of it. I've lived in my current home for a year w/ such bad signal at home that I installed an app/widget called "Signal Boost 3G 4G" that basically cycles airplane mode quickly in an effort to acquire a better signal. Inside of the year, in one the past month or so have I gotten 4G, but it's not getting signal...like it says 4G on my screen, but NOTHING connects, so now I'm forced to make my phone stay in CDMA mode at home (which requires a reset) and then switching back to LTE/CDMA when I leave my home (once again requiring a reset)...but they can detect that I'm streaming and have the audacity to send me a letter telling me that I can't use their ****ty signal anywhich way I chose and threatening me w/ termination, yet if I wanted to leave early I either have to threaten to contact the FCC and/or pay an ETF. They can go **** themselves.

m5james said:
Actually like most, I didn't read the actual contract...I just said yes and keep paying. I know they wanted $30 to use their tethering app, but just like stocks apps on an unroored phone, I've rooted it to remove and add apps as I see fit. BMW doesn't tell me they're going to take my M5 back because I took out driving down a dirt road vs only keeping it on pavement, so Sprint shouldn't worry about how I use my crappy signal. Splitting my water hose with the neighbor doesn't mean I get twice the pressure, it means I'm splitting that same pressure twice, but ultimately it's still the sanme pressure. My signal is no different. I can't get 4G at home, isn't that breach of contract? They tried getting me to sign contracts for free tablets, but when I told her I get **** service at home, why would I pay $20 per month for something I can hardly use...silence on her end until I said no thanks.
So just like using an IP annoymizer when I used to download movies, is there a way to prevent them from seeing what I'm streaming from and/or two?
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Just cause you did not read the contract it does not mean you get to do what you want. You have failed to uphold your end of the and they can terminate you.
It is like shooting someone and telling the judge you didn't know it was illegal. Ignorance does not give you free rein to do what you wish. So now you have a couple options.
1. Ignore it and get your contract terminated (hey no ETF)
2. Stop tethering
3. Pay for the tethering service
This site (xda) is not here to help you perform illegal acts. Keep going this route and moderators will lock the thread.
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My thread is one of MANY I've seen here, other forums, even on SprintUsers itself...if I get banned for asking what others have years ago, I'm just asking more specifically for my phone, then so be it. In the meantime I'm sure there are bigger fish to fry. I don't need you getting on your moral soapbox, a guy can vent...you're treating my "Illegal activities" as I'm trying to hide from being able to watch child porn or something - calm down. Just like others have voiced, it's BS that Sprint wants me to pay for something I'm already getting...unlimited data. My city charges water at 1000 gallon increments. If I wanna water my lawn, my neighbors lawn or install a splitter and water both, the city doesn't care because at the end of the day my water flow is still something I'm paying for in said increments. Apparently unlimited isn't so unlimited, because at the end of the day whether I'm watching porn on my phone or tethered to my laptop, it's still the same stream. Keep backing corporations...I'm sure they need the money. In the meantime, they have my number.
1) My money is just as green somewhere else
2) I pay for unlimited, I'm going to use unlimited
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Calm down, internet warrior. You and I both know the illegal activities that happen in varying forms and levels even on these boards ranging from hacked software, removing stock apps, removing factory installed spyware, apps I used to in order to get free tethering, hell even rooting is against the rules, etc...why are you even here on these boards, hypocrite.
Back to my topic. I've read something about PDANet having an option to block/spam the activities that Sprint used to see that I'm tethering (jlmancuso, I'll let them know you're coming to get onto your soapbox if I ever have to write tech support) but it seems the app is mostly for hardwire or bluetooth tethering, neither of which I've ever done before. At the moment I simply click the TrevE mod widget and I'm putting signal out to whatever devices I've given permission to. I'm not the first nor the last Sprint user who's tethering for free, I'm just trying to find out how to continue doing what I pay for already.

m5james said:
My thread is one of MANY I've seen here, other forums, even on SprintUsers itself...if I get banned for asking what others have years ago, I'm just asking more specifically for my phone, then so be it. In the meantime I'm sure there are bigger fish to fry. I don't need you getting on your moral soapbox, a guy can vent...you're treating my "Illegal activities" as I'm trying to hide from being able to watch child porn or something - calm down. Just like others have voiced, it's BS that Sprint wants me to pay for something I'm already getting...unlimited data. My city charges water at 1000 gallon increments. If I wanna water my lawn, my neighbors lawn or install a splitter and water both, the city doesn't care because at the end of the day my water flow is still something I'm paying for in said increments. Apparently unlimited isn't so unlimited, because at the end of the day whether I'm watching porn on my phone or tethered to my laptop, it's still the same stream. Keep backing corporations...I'm sure they need the money. In the meantime, they have my number.
1) My money is just as green somewhere else
2) I pay for unlimited, I'm going to use unlimited
3) See 2
Calm down, internet warrior. You and I both know the illegal activities that happen in varying forms and levels even on these boards ranging from hacked software, removing stock apps, removing factory installed spyware, apps I used to in order to get free tethering, hell even rooting is against the rules, etc...why are you even here on these boards, hypocrite.
Back to my topic. I've read something about PDANet having an option to block/spam the activities that Sprint used to see that I'm tethering (jlmancuso, I'll let them know you're coming to get onto your soapbox if I ever have to write tech support) but it seems the app is mostly for hardwire or bluetooth tethering, neither of which I've ever done before. At the moment I simply click the TrevE mod widget and I'm putting signal out to whatever devices I've given permission to. I'm not the first nor the last Sprint user who's tethering for free, I'm just trying to find out how to continue doing what I pay for already.
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Wow a man who is truly confused. Just cause you paid for unlimited internet doesn't mean you paid for tethering. Which you did not. You chose to enter the agreement with sprint so if you dont like it leave. As you say your money is just as good somewhere else. You know there are companies that dont charge for tethering. Go with one of them and stop whining like a little kid. Heck you could even step up and be a man by actually paying for the service you want.
You say rooting and removing stock software is illegal. Well guess what it is not. You must be a little confused by terminology. Modification of a device that belongs to your provider is against your contact conditions. Unlike most suckers I own my device (bought and paid for) and also while I have a sprint phone I am not on sprint. So since I ACTUALLY own my device I am not breaking my contract. Heck I dont even have a contract to break. I am not enough of a fool to pay those outrageous rates for my service.
So go on talk about me being a morally correct person. I just happened to be raised be decent parents who taught me to be a decent person. Just like I teach my children to be decent people.
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Really guy?
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Wow a man who is truly confused. Just cause you paid for unlimited internet doesn't mean you paid for tethering. Which you did not. You chose to enter the agreement with sprint so if you dont like it leave. As you say your money is just as good somewhere else. You know there are companies that dont charge for tethering. Go with one of them and stop whining like a little kid. Heck you could even step up and be a man by actually paying for the service you want.
You say rooting and removing stock software is illegal. Well guess what it is not. You must be a little confused by terminology. Modification of a device that belongs to your provider is against your contact conditions. Unlike most suckers I own my device (bought and paid for) and also while I have a sprint phone I am not on sprint. So since I ACTUALLY own my device I am not breaking my contract. Heck I dont even have a contract to break. I am not enough of a fool to pay those outrageous rates for my service.
So go on talk about me being a morally correct person. I just happened to be raised be decent parents who taught me to be a decent person. Just like I teach my children to be decent people.
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Dude, get off that imaginary high horse.. There are so many annoying things in that last sentence it makes me want to barf. All your "decent" parents taught you to be was a judgmental self righteous prick. Just like I'm sure you're teaching your kids.

Thanks, operator080...I thought much of the same thing but I wasn't going to feed the troll. I'm sure much to his chagrin though, they did end my service about two weeks ago. One morning it stopped working but my GF and mother's phones still worked. I called to talk to Sprint, which is when I found out they group roaming and tethering under the same reason to cancel if you go over 500 min a month, which I had. The woman on the phone said a couple times that I'm no longer allowed to keep that phone number on Sprint and then turned it on for a week to have it ported over.
I hit the Sprint store on the way to work one day and they suggested to either change it myself, then wait and see what happened or come back if it gets cut off....he said that at that point aother slot will be opened in my plan, so I waited it out for a week. I read inbetween the lines of what the woman said repeatedly, waited until the last day, went to Sprint's website and manually changed my number myself...which lasted another week. Ultimately they shut off that line as well, so I ran by the store again and they simply added a line to the account that's in my name but only had my GF and mom on it, kept my phome and nothing has changed.
Screw them, I still circumvented a bull**** $30 fee for 2+yrs to use something I'm already paying for. In the meantime I'll stream via Bluetooth until I can figure out how they can see other devices (Chrome has some very interesting tools for this) and I'll be back to using what I already pay for...a slow 3G internet at my home (just enough to check email) and 4G to my car stereo/tablet in my truck.

m5james said:
Thanks, operator080...I thought much of the same thing but I wasn't going to feed the troll. I'm sure much to his chagrin though, they did end my service about two weeks ago. One morning it stopped working but my GF and mother's phones still worked. I called to talk to Sprint, which is when I found out they group roaming and tethering under the same reason to cancel if you go over 500 min a month, which I had. The woman on the phone said a couple times that I'm no longer allowed to keep that phone number on Sprint and then turned it on for a week to have it ported over.
I hit the Sprint store on the way to work one day and they suggested to either change it myself, then wait and see what happened or come back if it gets cut off....he said that at that point aother slot will be opened in my plan, so I waited it out for a week. I read inbetween the lines of what the woman said repeatedly, waited until the last day, went to Sprint's website and manually changed my number myself...which lasted another week. Ultimately they shut off that line as well, so I ran by the store again and they simply added a line to the account that's in my name but only had my GF and mom on it, kept my phome and nothing has changed.
Screw them, I still circumvented a bull**** $30 fee for 2+yrs to use something I'm already paying for. In the meantime I'll stream via Bluetooth until I can figure out how they can see other devices (Chrome has some very interesting tools for this) and I'll be back to using what I already pay for...a slow 3G internet at my home (just enough to check email) and 4G to my car stereo/tablet in my truck.
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Wow a thief wins for the moment. Enjoy your victory while it lasts. In the end you will still lose.
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Dude, get off that imaginary high horse.. There are so many annoying things in that last sentence it makes me want to barf. All your "decent" parents taught you to be was a judgmental self righteous prick. Just like I'm sure you're teaching your kids.
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Yes sir go the low route talk your trash. I am sure know that people with real morals does make you sick. Maybe if you took a little time to better understand yourself you could see how sick you are. Hopefully you have not been allowed to breed. We really don't need more like you running around.
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m5james said:
Screw them, I still circumvented a bull**** $30 fee for 2+yrs to use something I'm already paying for. In the meantime I'll stream via Bluetooth until I can figure out how they can see other devices (Chrome has some very interesting tools for this) and I'll be back to using what I already pay for...a slow 3G internet at my home (just enough to check email) and 4G to my car stereo/tablet in my truck.
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You, sir, are being very childish. Sprint's prices are low because they provide ****ty service compared to the rest. So if you want to tether, you can either man the **** up and pay for the service, or continue what you're doing and enjoy your early termination. Sprint is not losing any money by giving you the boot. They're already making a killing off their MVNO companies.