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What do you gain with WM6?

I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?

Just the faster navi and app run speed will make u wanna upgrade. btw..seems to be more stable than WM5.
PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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Here's a MS press release that you can check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/feb07/02-11WM6SoftwarePR.mspx
As far as which WM6 d/l's out there, you can refer to the stickies in this forum or the wiki.

Your device will faster, stable, nice icons, you get all the benefits from the new upgrade pointed to you and its feels like a new PPC at zero cost.

It's faster!
I can also confirm, that WM6 is much more faster (my subjective impression is about 1.5 to 2 times faster).
And it looks better
soniX

Can somebody post a benchmark, so we can measure the benefit of WM6.
Still there are many bugs, and different bugs in the WM6-ROMs.
Speed & Style aren't the only quality-attributes!

PostDeals said:
I have seen a lot of posts about cooked rom etc. Just curious what am I gaining by upgrading to WM6? I see there are still bugs to be worked out and community support is definitley the way to do it.
I am a newbie, and I know the upgrade isn't ready for me but I am tempted to test and help the community out but not sure what additonal features are added in WM6 that I should look for and test?
Also which ROM seems to be a all in one upgrade for the Cingular 8525?
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popularity amongst your geeky collegues.

A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007
A resume about WM6 / Exchnage 2007

If you're coming from the stock cingular rom (1.34), everything just feels a lot faster, and much more stable. You'd have to spend some time reading to get some of your cingular specific settings back. A lot of those settings are floating around the boards.
If you're after all inclusive, it looks like threedes released a rom with several added programs. If you just want a rom that feels like stock cingular, check out lvsw. that's what i'm running on my 8525, and it's great.

Some additional functionality as well. One of the small yet convenient features is the ease of which you can add a recently called number to existing contacts. in wm5 i would have to start as if creating a new contact and copy and paste the number to a new one. just my penny and a half

After a week with WM6 I've decided to go back to South African ROM 1.35 and Radio ROM 1.27.
Just too many bugs and minor flaws with WM6 I tried I just felt it ain't worth the hustle. ROM 1.35 was as fast and more stable with programs than WM6 was.
I will just kick back and wait for a possible REAL WM6 rom to appear from operators or something. Better to have a stable phone with less pretty icons than a flashy looking pda with bugs.
And since you can gain pretty much everything (xcept for those icons) with tweaks/utils I haven't really found WM6 to be any better.

But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..

My personal view is that WM6, at least the version I have used, is no faster then the WM5 I was using. I think the reason people always claim the new ROM's are faster is because it is a clean install, the same thing happens with Windows on your PC.
Apart from lots of small tweaks here and there, there is nothing major in WM6 with the exception of the themed bars being more curvy. It's more of a WM5 with a couple of service packs to me. Still, worth a look.

Definitely noticed a significant improvemnt in responsiveness on my M3100.
Also, less phone lockups /issues I think.(subjective judgement)

steiale said:
But isn't WM6 at least twice as fast on your tytn? Mine is and this is a big benefit. Changed again from the e61 to the tytn..
SPB Soft works like a charm.. BT and WIFi do work with WPA2.. Vodafone works great as well.. Never had a more clear sound..
I wouldn't like to change back..
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Well this 1.35 ROM is as fast as WM6 I had. The AKU 3.3 ROM version I had was slow as hell. Speed wasn't the reason to change back from WM6 but the annoying little bugs:
- Windows Update wouldn't close but using Task Manager
- Turn WiFi Off from the balloon
- TomTom 6 ocassional start up problems
- Soft key setup's little change under Text Messages (Where it used to be New now had Delete)
- Pocket MSN/Live problems (constantly tried to open the GPRS connection after sign off and closing the app).
- SPB Backup problem (couldn't unlock a file)
- WiFi annoyance: Even when there were available APs, the
phone didn't announce it but you had to manually go see if there were any
These problems (that I remember off hand) are the reason why Im not going to use WM6 anymore until some legimit party releases one.

@Steiale: You said WPA2 works. Does that mean you can use WPA-AES encryption? If so: what exact version of WM6 are you using - vanilla, ...?
Thanks in advance,
Michael

Can somebody post a benchmark to compare?
2x faster, 1,5x faster isn't much representative.
If a Rom or Radio upgrade is released the signal strenght is always better and always faster and much better battery duration.
If it really was so, we should all have 365 days battery lifetime without charging and always full signal strenght and the program is opened before pressing a button.

Since upgrading to wm6 the most significant changes for me is that it runs faster than wm5 and the pocket outlook (messaging) now does html email

steiale said:
BT and WIFi do work with WPA2...
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Which wm6 rom are you using?
WPA2 is important to me, and would be a reason to upgrade. You do mean WPA2 with AES?
Are these things improved on the mailclient:
- selection of smtp at time of sending (like is possible on symbian), or support for different smtp profiles
- specification of the imap root folder
- bluetooth pan (would love to use this to connect my laptop via tytn to 3G)
Thanks!
Jörg

Well, after just 1 week, WM6(Most Beautiful Edition) seems
1) much, mush faster than before. Faster than my friends WM5 on Dopod838Pro(Hermes).
2)more RAM even
3)Hmm, looks like I am the only one who likes the delete softkey in messaging replacing the new... Probably because I just use SMS...
4)Stable.
5)Faster reboot(useful if you tend to try new software almost every other day).
6)Widcomm can now power up easier(less or no driver memory error). Yeah, for me, the MS Bluetooth stack still sucks for A2DP).. File transfer seem more faster too, probably a pyschological effect from the faster interface..

Recommended ROM for us Canucks?

I know there are some ROMs out there optimized for AT&T, etc. What do you guys recommend for us Canadians using Rogers? Anyone else on here on the Rogers network? And what ROM are you using? I also need BBConnect to be functional too. I'm so undecided on which to use... I'm still on WM5 at the moment. Thanks.

I use Black Majik (bbconnect version) with Radio 1.43 on Rogers with no problems.

Hi.
I live in Austin. I have both ROGERS and T-mobile. I use, on my TyTN, Elf Mobile 6 Edition. I just switch out the SIM cards. When I visited Vancouver in March, it worked great (I am not Canadian but I have a Canadian number since I normally spend 3 to 6 months a year in Vancouver).
Custel also works well.
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I know there are some ROMs out there optimized for AT&T, etc. What do you guys recommend for us Canadians using Rogers? Anyone else on here on the Rogers network? And what ROM are you using? I also need BBConnect to be functional too. I'm so undecided on which to use... I'm still on WM5 at the moment. Thanks.
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Yes, I'm using Elf 2.1 as well, in Toronto. So far so good

Try them all.
Use the one that fit your needs best!!!
If you are undecided, then you are not ready and I would suggest that you do not bother.
In any case, make sure your pda is CID and provider unlocked. Good Luck when you are ready to jump in!
ThaiM said:
I know there are some ROMs out there optimized for AT&T, etc. What do you guys recommend for us Canadians using Rogers? Anyone else on here on the Rogers network? And what ROM are you using? I also need BBConnect to be functional too. I'm so undecided on which to use... I'm still on WM5 at the moment. Thanks.
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i am a noob so don't flame me for asking this but how do you know which radio version you are using

Start->Settings->System Tab->Device Information.

I'm currently using Sleuth's v3.1 Crackberry ROM and am extremely happy with it!
Lurch has created a cab file with all of the Rogers settings in it which you can run after flashing your ROM.

Cingular 8525 on Rogers north of Toronto
VP3G V3 ROM
1.48 radio
Resco Explorer
TomTom 6
Mortplayer
Cyberon Voice Speed Dial 1.2
SK Tools
PockeTTY
ListPro
Coreplayer 1.1.1
PocketIRC
Astraware Solitaire
Agile Messanger
PocketRAR
Remote Desktop
Adobe Flash Lite 2.1
Adobe Reader LE 2.0
vp3G PTT Reassign
WebIS Flexmail
WebIS Flexwallet
Landware Movie Guide
Sprite Backup
WebIS Pocket Informant 2007
Jawbone BT Headset
Logitech Bluetooth stereo headset
Motorola DC800 Bluetooth stereo gateway
2GB MicroSD card (4GB on order)
fast, reliable, best combination of ROM and Radio yet.
Started with the official AT&T 2.15 radio 1.40.30 (WM5... yuck)
Tried a couple of versions of Black, got bored with the number of resets and the number of programs that it didnt like. Very slick look, but very experimental.
The elf did a great job for a while
LVSW was my choice till the official AT&T WM6 ROM came out and VP3G put it on a diet and killed off all that useless junk.
It finally works the way I expect it to, the first Windows Mobile (CE) device I have ever owned that does so.
One trick.... I have consistently noticed that, with all my various Windows Mobile devices I have owned, the stability is better with less junk on the today screen. I now run just the date, Live Search and Pocket Informant plug-ins.
Also, dont forget to do the activesync fake server fix and kill off the nasty activesync whenever it starts up unwanted.
Radio Change:
Droped calls with the 1.48 radio and it wouldnt find service for over 5 minutes. I've just flashed to the 1.43 radio and will report

How To run BBCONNECT 4 with WW6

Hi all
I would like to known the more simple and shure way to make BBconnect 4 up and running with WM6.
My TYTN running actualy the Schap's ROM version 3.57a.
please HELP ME.
HTC TYTN
ROM Schap's 3.57a
radio 1.48.00.00
Protocol 32.81.70.20.20W
CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1)

Ask Schap nicely to hex edit his Rom so it works with BB Connect.......otherwise use Slueth's Rom which already works with BB Connect.
I've been quite happy using Slueth's Rom and have no complaints!

morpheus1700 said:
I would like to known the more simple and shure way to make BBconnect 4 up and running with WM6
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vp3G and Sleuth both have BBC version. I can post links for Schap and Black Satin tonight. But if you are comfortable with entry level hacking - it is a trivial job to make any ROM based on latest official ATT or Dopod releases to be compatible with BBC on Hermes. There was a lot of discussions and questions answered here on this subject last few days if you'll desire to know more and "Howto". Regards

Khristopher said:
Ask Schap nicely to hex edit his Rom so it works with BB Connect.......otherwise use Slueth's Rom which already works with BB Connect.
I've been quite happy using Slueth's Rom and have no complaints!
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Hi Khristopher
I too am trying to get Blackberry working reliably on my xda Trion. I'm running Custels WM6 2.5 ROM thats blackberry enabled, along with 2.x.x.54 blackberry client for the Trion and the 1.41 radio
Problem I have is that when I invoke flight mode and then switch radio back on, my blackberry app is off line and I cannot get it to reconnect without first disablling it, then doing a soft reset, then relaunching blackberry. It then repairs the settings and goes on to connect and its back up and running All a bit of a pain! I tried the 4.x.x. client, but it has the security feature set on the server such that after 10 mins inactive, it locks the screen and needs a password to unlock the device.
Are you having similar problems with the sleth ROM? If not, could you post the rest of your ROM/RADIO/BB Client config? If you are using the 4.x.x BB client, have you found a way of disabling the device lock?
Many thanks
Chris

cbrow51 said:
I'm running Custels WM6 2.5 ROM thats blackberry enabled, along with 2.x.x.54 blackberry client for the Trion and the 1.41 radio
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Custel ... that's I'd say 2-3 major updates step back. I haven't tested Custel's ROMs, but correct me if I'm wrong it is a LVSW or Black 3.01 derivative. Neither one had any issues with BBC re-connecting. As a matter of fact, from my personal experience, BBC will make *any* connection drop in a blink of an eye and will happily monopolize your data connection, making it almost impossible to have automated POP, RSS or Podcasts collections. I'd say your first step should be backup, hard reset and restore if you are keen to the existing ROM. Then I'd say you want to update to the latest distro and radio. Hope this helps.

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Custel ... that's I'd say 2-3 major updates step back. I haven't tested Custel's ROMs, but correct me if I'm wrong it is a LVSW or Black 3.01 derivative. Neither one had any issues with BBC re-connecting. As a matter of fact, from my personal experience, BBC will make *any* connection drop in a blink of an eye and will happily monopolize your data connection, making it almost impossible to have automated POP, RSS or Podcasts collections. I'd say your first step should be backup, hard reset and restore if you are keen to the existing ROM. Then I'd say you want to update to the latest distro and radio. Hope this helps.
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Hi Moisha
Many thanks for this, very helpful. I'm not wedded to the ROM by any means, so would happily change to a combo that kept a reliable connection. By 'the latest distro', do you mean one of the WM6 ROMs or release of the BB client? I see you are using the 1.48 radio.. What would be your recco for a BB compatible ROM and radio. Not sure I want to get into hex editing at the moment, so would like to use one one the 'off the (xdadevelopers) shelf' ROMs if poss...?
Thanks much in advance
Regards
Chris

Noob questions (so many of us)

I've had search on the forums, but have questions i can find the answer to.
I'm a PC tweaker and overclocker. I fancy doing the same with my phone. more out of curiosity then any real need.
MDA Compact 3 (tmobile)
Most used app is tomtom.
I've found the how to bit, and understand the the getting "CID unlocked" then doing the rom flash.
My main questions are.
Once flashed, is there much needed to be done to get it back on the network? ( buggered about on a mobi a while ago and getting it back on the network took ages)
What are the main benefits of upgrading?
I've seen the touchflo demo on youtube and know you can get roms for my phone. what is the best one for my phone/network?
And what the most stable one?
what would be a good rom for some one who install/uninstall lots of app and generally like to poke around, but really only uses it as a phone and gps?
Cheers for any pointers/help

Hi Megabite,
What do you mean with network?
The Network of your telco of your home network?
The best rom for MDA Compact is B&B 4.0 with touch flo.
GPS is working fine
But 4.1 is coming with the latest OS.
And the camera is also fixed. So just wait until released.
The rom is in beta testing

Thanks for the reply.
I meant network as in my telco, as in t-mobile UK.
So just to clarify, touchflow is the user interface that "sits" on windows mobile version 6 (or wm v5) or is it a seperate user interface?
and any date for the realse of 4.1

No, no network problems, you'll just have to run the network wizard to auto configure the gprs internet stuff.
The touchflo cube is just a pretty app that sits on top of the OS - it's ok, but I find the fact that the touchflo driver allows you to scroll up/down in lists and docs a lot more useful.
As far as 4.1 coming out, it comes out when Tom and his testers think its ready - no ETA yet from what I've seen

The Touchflo cube is an interface for accessing some commonly used programs, contacts etc, Touchflo also allows you to scroll using finger movements in other apps, eg internet explorer.
If you do upgrade to a WM6 rom the benefits are a more stable OS & HTML email amongst other things. Tmobile have stated that they will not be releasing a WM6 ROM for the MDA C3 so if you do want to upgrade you will have to use another carriers rom or a cooked rom. There are 2 official roms available, O2 UK and Dopod SEA, both are WWE (English). I use Tom's B&B v4.0 rom as it looks and feels the best and doesn't have any operator rubbish in it. In order to upgrade your rom to WM6 you will first need to CID (Carrier ID) unlock it as you have already discovered.
It is very easy to put the tmobile uk settings back in, there are plenty of cab files in this forum or the settings can be found on the web. If you really can't find them I have a cab file somewhere I can send you.
Regarding a release date for Toms B&B v4.1, Tom produces these roms as a hobby not a job, therefore you won't get a release date, just the rom when it is ready!

New Rom Pda Viet Wm6.1 V3.62.61.18

pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl

Cool
Just flashed and errored out at 100%. I hit the reset button and it booted fine. So far it's quick.. will leave for the night and let you know more tomorrow when i've run with it a while.

mimahitna said:
pda viet wm6.1 rom,v3.62.61.18/CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 19199.1.2.0
vanila version,veeeeeeeery fast and stable.
download link 1:http://www.4shared.com/file/38244597...ified=7ed9855d
download link 2:http://www.mediafire.com/?ct2mnbmzjhl
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any more data on this rom??
memory??
screen shots??
thanks
edward

info
Not big storage
Program: 23.93 free
Storage 62.11 free.
Comes with:
Adobe Flash Lite
Adobe reader
Audio manager
Display Switcher
PsShutxp
Voice Speed Dial
Office 07, Missing one note
advance config
Flashlight,
WM5torage
PHM Regeditor
PIM Backup
Synchro Time
HTC Home
standard games
Looks extremely similar to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
that said I'm going back to the other rom because it's Big Storage

it's A good ROM, not as fast as faria, all is working.

Can anybody post any other download links? The link above are veeeerrrryyyy slow so cannot download

I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.

jdc said:
I'm wondering where the newer build came from, or if it's faked like the BA ROM that was released under the same name. I'm not saying this one is, but it has happened before.
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PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.

rambo6 said:
PDAViet's 6.1 ROM for The BA is not faked. I've been using it for a week or two. It's one of the best BA ROMs. For this reason, I might give this one a try.
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Sure, it's not a WM5 or 6 made to look like 6.1. I should explain what I'm referring to.
There is a PDAViet WM 6.0 release for the Blue Angel (I still have my angel) with a faked build number (hex edited to make it look like a later build than it was). Since this build number is later than all the others available, I was wondering if the same thing was done.
If it works, great and dandy. I'm just suspicious of a ROM that's been edited to make it look like it's a later version, and slightly suspicious of any other ROM's from the group or person who did the editing previously. Really, I see no reason to do this, so I have to wonder what the motivation is.

Jdc:
I think you're right. I think PDAViet dummied up some earlier WM5 ROMs to make them appear like WM6 when they were not. He may have also copied some of Helmi's stuff and was criticized on this forum.
However, this guy has earned some credit. His WM6.1 for the BA is nothing short of superb. It's the first version which doesn't wake up all the time to keep the bluetooth working. It's simply the most stable WM6 ROM for the BA. Xplode's is good too. Enough about the BA.
I just flashed this ROM to my wife's Hermes. At first I could not connect to AT&T's network at all. Something in the extended ROM was making it so it wouldn't connect. So what I did was go into settings and used the "Clear Storage" function. As it rebooted, I soft reset it so that the contents of the Extended ROM did not load. After that I was able to get the phone signal and configure my device manually for AT&T.
I've flashed a bunch of ROMs on my wife's Hermes. I've only been messing with it for an hour or so but so far everything works and it's fast. I'll post more as I take it through the paces. I really like the threading Text messages. They take up less space and are easier to follow.

After trying this ROM for a day, I find it very fast and stable. The only fault I find is that there's no MMS. I tried to load Arcsoft 5.0.31.7 but it does not show all the settings necessary to us it.
This ROM even works with TCPMP so that one can view videos on YouTube.

All rom chef's
Hello, seeing this rom and not knowing who "Viet"(no offense) is, makes me feel like cooking mine up and putting a link from rapishare down 'er.
I do have a suggestion - that all ROM chefs make a post, where they put their Cooking resume down all we can check their credibility (if they cooked it themselves). and also to give us (people who like to use their ROM's a feeling of safety, before actually downloading anything.
Just a suggestion.... i hope other's agree with me, considering our hardware.