I ran across Windows Mobile SDK and some emulators/images of WM6.1 on microsoft's website and when i ran it, it comes up on the screen as if it were a real ppc, allowing me to install cabs and have them function and all. I can't get the program to allow me to change the BIN it uses as the image. If this could be figured out, could this be used to test ROMs before flashing (I want to get into cooking)?
i dont not believe the emulator support real roms as it dont deal with drivers and other hardware related issues at all
it also comes as standalone so people dont need to install the sdk
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hello,
I have a hitachi g1000 with windows mobile 2002, i want to rid off from sprint win version with all functions and feature and install a normal winCE.
the problem is, I cant do that, downloaded from micrsoft website trial verision but when run setup.exe it stops and ask tell my windows on PC need some other application and etc and etc. I install one application .NET Framework 2 but still not possible to go on with setup.
I would like to know is it only with me or someone also experince similar problems, please share with me yourexperience if you have installed on your pda win CE and how.
is there any other way to install it on my hitachi, or what I'm doing wrong?
Hello dar22.
It seems you misunderstand the whole Pocket PC OS issue.
You cannot just install Windows CE because it is not a generic operating system like Windows XP.
First, Windows Mobile is a derivative of Windows CE, but it also adds some functions. Even if you could replace your OS pure windows CE cannot run most apps developed for the PPC.
Second, Windows Mobile is custom tailored for every device (so is Win CE) and the result is called ROM image. You can't just install a generic version and then add drivers because they all come together from the manufacturer.
So to conclude this:
Unless the devices OEM provides an upgrade, there is no way to change the OS.
yes I uderstand than the generic WIN CE comes without drivers for a specific PDA, but the whole idea that I don't need that pda's most of it's functions such as camera and phone functions, I need only to have WINCE on it.
Can anybody advice me how to rid off from original Windows Mobile and install instead of that pure win ce version?
I mean what applications should I have on my PC to flash my device with WIN CE?
You still haven't understood me.
When I said 'drivers' I meant such basic things like memory, touch screen, device buttons.
Even those things need specific drivers from the OEM so there is no way to install Win CE on your device, unless:
1) You can dump the original ROM and extract all the drivers.
2) You can get MS Platform Builder (full and legal version), incorporate the drivers and create a special image for your device.
(I think you actually have to be an OEM and have contract with MS for the second part)
I am not sure what you tried to install, but there is no Win CE version you can just flash to any device and it will work.
levenum, thanks for your support, what you think can I install linux instead? I just don't want to have the sprint windows version
Well, you could try looking for linux version, but I am not sure there is one for your device.
You see, for mobile devices it is pretty much the same thing with linux. OEMs do not release even the basic drivers so there are no generic OS for these devices.
There are linux projects for HP iPaqs and also xanadux project (look in the WiKi) for HTC devices, but I don't know of anything for your device.
Perhaps if you specify what exactly bugs you about the OS maybe we can recommend apps and reg tweaks to get around is.
Hello, everyone, I hope no piss anyone about this old OS, but I have no choice on my iPAQ Rx3115 'cause HP never releases an OS update for this pda, since it has decent features and mine is in perfect shape and it's a shame that a lot of programs cant be installed in this OS.
So, that's why i want to edit the ROM of this PDA, made a custom one with new programs and delete the old ones and the ones that are obsolete (like the MPG player, since tcmp and coreplayer cant play everything).
This forum is big, i was searching for hour about resources and "how to do that", I use EM2003 and when i try to open the rom file it tells me that enter a password to unlock the ROM.
So pleasse guys, help me out, I want to guive a full new life to this PDA and keep using it, and of course I will release the ROM for everyone to use it as I made stable ROMs.
Thanks and regards.
c'mon guys, help me a little, a need something to start with, a tool, program, anything?
thanks
I know this is old but I'd just like to second this, if anyone has any info on how to upgrade this device that would be great as I just sort of "stumbled upon" one of these and would like to put it to good use.
I've done a lot of searching and can't find any roms for rx3115 IPAC. I have one of these too and would love to fiddle with it again!! I even found on forum that said that it would not support WM 5 or 6 so I don't now if there is much hope. But if there was a program or instructions on how to make our own ROM I would sure like to try!!! I believe it has WM 2003 CE on it now...
Me too!!! I too have one of those...
rx3115
I have an rx3115 also. I am following this thread.
This will be quite difficult and complicated, first of all, what do you want to do with stock ROM? If some apps can't be installed on WM2003SE, then adding them to ROM won't change anything. However, I'm willing to help, send me a PM with stock ROM and changes you want, I'll try to develop somethin' good .
Thanks tomcug!!!
I'll also PM you the links from this post.
I too have an rx3115 and have been searching all over for ways to upgrade it: cooked ROMs, Linux, Unix... SOMEthing. LOL
So far you're the only cook who's wanted to take a swing at this. There are no easy answers for rx3115 that I can find anywhere on the net.
Here's the last official rx3115 update of WM2003 (1.01.11) complete with installer
http://www.mediafire.com/file/i6k0935chhkgzlh/iPAQ rx3115 ROM 1_01_11.exe
I'd hate to lose the Nevo (IrDA universal remote control) from it, but would sacrifice that if I could upgrade the OS...
Better yet - maybe you could work with this WM 6.1 Classic ROM that was cooked for the rx1950. It supports the ARMv4T instruction set used by the rx3115. Here is just the .nbf file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/iu9p815w3yjpy6h/CEOS.nbf
At 27.82mb it would just fit on rx3115. Maybe a slimmed down version??? I would leave it to you to decide what to remove. LOL who am I to tell a cook how to season his offering???
And the WM 6.1 install cab for Mobile Office
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nmz3sbyuxan7c4e/office_wpc_WM6.CAB
Of course - any help would be greatly appreciated by many rx3115 owners.
And here's my thread of what I've been trying to accomplish with my rx3115.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981868
Thanks Again,
RumoredNow
All right, then I'll try to do something good . I don't know if this will work and that's why I need to ask you one more thing. Is it possible to flash this phone when it's not booting? I mean windows hangs.
It's a straight Pocket PC with no Phone capability. Full specs are here:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=122&view=1&c=hewlett-packard_ipaq_rx3115
Short answer: yes, the ROM is user flashable up to 28mb of 32mb total.
Long Answer...
The HP update I sent you will flash the ROM under Win XP with ActiveSync installed. The RUU (ROM Update Utility) needs RAPI.dll from ActiveSync in order to run. It won't function under Win 7 for me - it generates a comm error.
Theoretically it is possible to flash any (size appropriate) ROM to the device with this Universal iPAQ Bootloader:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubl/files/ubl/Binaries/
My system flagged the UBL as having a Worm in the Vista Drivers though. I can't tell if it is a false positive (I'm not qualified for that) so I didn't use it under Win 7.
Instead, I stripped out the infected(?) bits and tried it on an XP box. Here's that file:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7anraar1tkc3lz1/BootLoader.rar
It fails to put rx3115 into bootloader mode even though it connects via USB.
There is a manual way to put rx3115 into Bootloader mode: MultiMedia (button 1) + iTask (button 4) + Power + Reset. But every time I put it in Bootloader mode manually, that seems to kill the rx3115's USB port. It becomes invisible to PC... I don't know if there is another step to manually enable USB mode under Bootloader. I haven't been able to find the right button(s) for that so far...
And manually entering Bootloader mode hasn't allowed me to flash from SD card either. I always get a "Wrong Image" error, even with .nbf file from the last official update!!!
I know it's not the device - I can reflash the last update over USB on a Win XP box if I use the official update package.
LOL - an executable which uses HP's RUU would be preferable for technologically deficient users such as myself.
Feel free to PM me or post back here if you have any more questions.
Thanks again.
Well, no progress at the moment and probably there's won't be any progress at all. I don't know how to extract CEOS.nbf, all tools I've tried can't do it.
By extract, do you mean view and edit???
uedit32 (hex editor???) will open it and allow changes to be saved. It even keeps the original version as a backup...
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6r8ffn1fq3bh9mu/uedit32.exe
Making ROM with hex editor ? That would take hundreds of years or even more . What I need is a tool or set of tools that can extract XIP and IMGFS from CEOS.nbf, that's the way you make ROM's. And tools I've tried doesn't work for this phone, however they work for HTC and i-mate phones I own.
EDIT:
I've also tried rx1950 kitchen, but it's a fail too. There are tools there but only for making CEOS.nbf from XIP and IMGFS images, nothing what I need .
Looking for the 802.11g mod for rx3115
I saw an experimental mod somewhere to enable the rx3115 to use 802.11g. If anyone knows where it is, please share. I lost the link. I was looking up the embedded chips at the time I saw it, so I think it was a forum.
All right, making a little update here. After long time of hard work I need to say that it's impossible to make WM 6.5.3 ROM for this device, drives and OEM stuff from WM 2003 SE simply won't work with any newer OS. Sorry for that but there's nothing we can do .
Hi. I just recently purchased an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.5. That being said, I have not been able to open any cab files on the device to install some software. Basically I'll transfer the cab to the device and attempt to open it. I get one of three messages depending on the app I guess. the most basic is "Installation was unsuccessful" to "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting...not digitally signed...trusted certificate" (this was from MobileFTPClient). Installing Opera Mini 5 gives a simple: "Installation of mini5wm.cab was unsuccessful".
Ok, so being a software developer for 10 years I've been looking into some registry values and can't seem to find what I need to get anything to install. If I download from the Windows Marketplace that's all good, but nothing else.
What do I need to do to be able to install cab flils directly? Honestly if I can't get this to work this phone is going back. I moved from an iPhone to this phone specifically so I can install apps and monkey around with the device, but so far I'm done before I started.
Thanks for any info you can give me.
its in one of your phone/device settings to let u download and install apps or cabs not digitally signed. thats all, i believe. just find it and check it off. or look for advanced config cab if u can find it and install that. it has an option in there also to let u download/install whatever..
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Hi. I just recently purchased an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.5. That being said, I have not been able to open any cab files on the device to install some software. Basically I'll transfer the cab to the device and attempt to open it. I get one of three messages depending on the app I guess. the most basic is "Installation was unsuccessful" to "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting...not digitally signed...trusted certificate" (this was from MobileFTPClient). Installing Opera Mini 5 gives a simple: "Installation of mini5wm.cab was unsuccessful".
Ok, so being a software developer for 10 years I've been looking into some registry values and can't seem to find what I need to get anything to install. If I download from the Windows Marketplace that's all good, but nothing else.
What do I need to do to be able to install cab flils directly? Honestly if I can't get this to work this phone is going back. I moved from an iPhone to this phone specifically so I can install apps and monkey around with the device, but so far I'm done before I started.
Thanks for any info you can give me.
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The cab I have attached may help you...it's some SDK certificates that will allow installation of certain unsigned apps, but I don't know if this is what the ones you're running are requiring and missing. It won't harm anything to try this one, and you can easily uninstall it if it doesn't do the trick
Thanks guys. Sirphunkee - that cab actually installed, but I'm having the same problem. Another forum has suggested that I take the device back to T-Mobile, but it just seems like there's a setting that's not right in the OS. Demandarin - I've looked for various security permissions in the UI with no luck. I've mucked around with some Policy values in the registry per some threads on this forum, but still nothing.
I'll keep trying, and thanks.
So...weird; Opera Mini and Weather Bug (well known apps) wouldn't install, but an SMS notification disable cab installed (from the xda site) as did Evernote (evernote.com). I have no clue what the deal is, but it's getting beyond stupid that I can't install just any cab file.
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So...weird; Opera Mini and Weather Bug (well known apps) wouldn't install, but an SMS notification disable cab installed (from the xda site) as did Evernote (evernote.com). I have no clue what the deal is, but it's getting beyond stupid that I can't install just any cab file.
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Have you already installed .Net 3.5? It's a framework that many other programs use (and need) to install, and it's not on the TP2 by default...it's the only other think I could think of that would keep you from installing stuff. Cab is attached, if you don't have it already.
Got it. I installed the Device Security Manager PowerToy and was able to change the configuration there. Opera Mini 5 just installed.
Never would have thought the phone would come that locked down, but so far so good. Thanks for all of the ideas.
mullethunter said:
Got it. I installed the Device Security Manager PowerToy and was able to change the configuration there. Opera Mini 5 just installed.
Never would have thought the phone would come that locked down, but so far so good. Thanks for all of the ideas.
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Well yeah what's weird is that I never had to use that to get any of those apps installed
Hello xda developers...
First-time poster.
Advanced Beginner/Intermediate programmer attempting first Windows Mobile app.
Got a deal on a t-mobile dash off ebay and am trying to create an application or two for it for personal use.
Problem: Getting a simple program written in c# to run on a t-mobile dash.
Question: How does one create a .cab file?
I've been doing research online and windows website doesn't mention .cab at all. Some discussions i've found said it's impossible. confused.
Back Story:
The Test Application: a text box, listbox and two buttons (one adds entry in text box to list box. the other button clears items from list).
Running Visual Studio 2008 on Vista (business? not the stunted home version).
Programming in C#. For a T-Mobile Dash (HTC Excalibur?)... running windows mobile 6.x.
I coded a simple app just to see if I could get something functioning on my phone. The emulator was windows 5 (which seemed okay. all 3rd-party apps i've used are windows 5. work fine).
App ran fine in emulator; however, when I copied the .exe to phone and ran, it said the framework was too new (which seemed odd going from windows mobile 5 emulation to windows mobile 6 os).
IS root problem from .exe file (where I need .cab?)
Any advice, website links or anything would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks all!
First of all what version of the .NET CF framework is running on the real device?
Run \WINDOWS\CGACUTIL.EXE
A popup window reports which version(s) are installed.
This is of the form [Major.Minor.Build.0]
Eg [2.0.7045.0] is .NET CF 2.0 and [3.5.9198.0] is .NET CF 3.5
If the version of .NET CF for which you have built the app, is the same as that on the device, the exe should run fine. You do not need a cab, copy the release .exe straight to the device.
Otherwise, there are two options,
1) Install the .NET CF version required on the device.
2) Change the .NET CF in the VS2008 build. This is not always easy as it it is usually selected when you create the project. See attached.
2a) It might be easier creating a new project against the correct .NET CF and the copy the old source files over.
If it lets you change the framework, you will find it in the Application side tab of the Properties of your project, (Project, not Solution). If the "Target Framework:" drop down box is greyed out, see the second image, you are stuck with 2a) above.
Lately I have been wanting to create a mobile way to program with C++, java, C# and even website development. I want to create a linux operating system for a mobile device that, with a few keyboard shortcuts, you can compile in any language. I recognise that this wont be able to sell or be distributed with the compilers.
I like the idea of the mobile life but having to find compilers is a pain. I want the ability to enter in a command and have it download the compiler. with no problems. Some thing that is often blocking me being able to do this is simply the technology. I have not found any device that is small, with a physical keyboard, and has no protected boot loader on it. So I figured I must try to do something with what I have, and what I have is an LG Octane with Brew MP OS on it.
I was wondering if anyone had any idea on where to start to gain root access to the file system. Or if it could be overwritten with some kind of linux boot loader.
I dont want to hear that its impossible. It is possible. I know that. I just dont know how to do it, and I was hoping for some guidance or some ideas on how to do it.