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First let me apologize for the title of this thread, I really couldn't resist. I just bought a i-mate jasjam and have spent the last several days reading these forums, the wiki, and all the other places that clicking things here will take you. I want to say right out that EVERYTHING I know about the Hermes I learned from this site, and that I am a complete beginner, and please do flame away if i am wrong. I'd rather get insulted online than have a brick in my pocket.
THe one thing that there isn't in the wiki (that I found anyway) is a current, step by step for total noobies like me who don't know what to do first and get scared by dealing with more than three file types in one sitting, that uses the SD card method. It seems that the SD method is faster, easier (especially if you run Vista), and even a little safer that the "old school" RUU method.
Soooo, I'd like to write a new wiki page to this effect, and am more than happy to put in screenshots, links, host file downloads, etc. What i'd REALLY appreciate is if you senior types could take a look at this simple outline and tell me if there is something drastically wrong with it. After a good schooling I'll post a complete article with more copied info from the threads and complete sentences and punctuation and stuff.
PROPOSED "DAY-ONE, JUST OUT OF THE BOX CAN"T WAIT TO" UPGRADE
1.enter bootloader mode to check sp version
2.format an SD card to FAT32, checking card integrity and fixing errors
3.Use Winar to Extract the .NHB file from Hard-SP-v7.zip, transfer to SD card with card reader and rename to HERMIMG.NHB
4.put the card in the phone and enter the bootloader by pressing side OK, Power, and soft reset button (with stylus). Once in bootloader mode accept the upgrade
This safe-nates things up, and CID unlocks the phone, right?
5.re-format SD card to FAT32, checking card integrity and fixing errors
6. Use WinRar to Extract the .NBH from HERM_Radinly_1.41.00.10_CustomRUU, transfer it to the SD card and rename it HERMIMG.NBH
7. put the card in the phone and enter the bootloader by pressing side OK, Power, and soft reset button (with stylus). Once in bootloader mode accept the upgrade
8. check the radio version in system info
9. re-format the SD card for FAT32, checking integrity and fixing errors
10. Use WinRar to Extract the .NBH from WM6 ROM of choice, transfer it to SD card and rename HERMIMG.NBH
11. Put the card in phone and enter the bootloader mode as above, when in bootloader accept the upgrade. Follow instructions from mrvanx for activesync
12. transfer my CAB files for applications to (Temp?) folder on card and then run each of them to install my apps (Skype, CeStar,TengoThumb,etc.)
Does this sound about right? Thoughts? Flames?
Thanks to all for such fantastic work, donations on the way for all who wrote files I have downloaded over the past few days, you guys rock!
whats with the SD card upgrading?
you can run HardSPL by itself, you dont have to extract and put the nbh file on ur storage card.. unneccesarry steps if you ask me..
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whats with the SD card upgrading?
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Well, I run Vista, and I like the idea of not having to fiddle with the drivers in order to do RUU, and I saw a few posts that some people had difficulty getting things to work with Vista. Also, posts have led me to beleive that it is faster to do it this way, which would lead to less chances of things going wrong (it's really hard to make Vista stop doing things in the background all the time). Also, there are already really awesome guides for doing it the RUU way, but not one for a complete SPL/Radio/ROM upgrade using this method, I think it appeals to a lot of people, including the dreaded Mac user. If it's not actually a good way please do explain, and finally, to me it just seems plain easier. I've only found a few posts that had troubles with the method and dozens that praised it. thanks for replying!!
Madcap, thanks for the input, I was going for continuity but I take your advice, keep 'em coming!!!
oh...you didn't mention Vista in your original thread.. lol .. best advice I can give you ... Throw vista in the trash.
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oh...you didn't mention Vista in your original thread.. lol .. best advice I can give you ... Throw vista in the trash.
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Yep, I ll drink to that
ugh .. u mentioned the D work.. great.. now I'm going to relapse..
Step 4 does not CID unlock the device. It looks like it just installs Hard SPL which will allow the user to recover from a bad radio flash.
Of course this should not matter as there really isn't a need to CID unlock any more (unless you want to unlock/unhide your EXT ROM)
HardSPL just makes your phone Temporary superCID right or something to that effect.
Zzan said:
Step 4 does not CID unlock the device. It looks like it just installs Hard SPL which will allow the user to recover from a bad radio flash.
Of course this should not matter as there really isn't a need to CID unlock any more (unless you want to unlock/unhide your EXT ROM)
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Cool, it was my understanding that Hard SPL temporarily makes you super CID (as Madcap said) allowing you to flash on any ROM you want, for all intents and purposes is this not pretty much the same thing as unlocking? Not arguing, just trying to clarify. A lot of noobs know that CID is an issue and that they need to disable it somehow when they flash......
Please keep comments coming,Thanks!!!!
P.S. MOD, in my sleep addledness I think I posted this in the wrong place, should it be moved to the UPGRADE forum? THANKS!!
P.P.S. Drinking is the only way I can tolerate having a Vista machine, we all were so happy about getting our new laptops this year, and then we turned them on....it's like getting a christmas present in the shape of a new bicycle, but when you tear off the wrapping paper there's really a tetanus shot inside.
SUCCESS!!
I followed the OP steps (with very minor modification) and was able to go from a completely new, out of the box, never even put in a sim card phone to HardSP-V7, upgraded radio, new WM6 ROM (Schaps, this ROM is awesome, thanks!!!). All without using a cable or upgrading any drivers. From beginning of first download to totally upgraded was one hour. Why anyone would ever do this the old-fashioned way is beyond me, especially if you are running Vista. I'm making a tutorial and have collected the few little things you need to do this and will add a wiki article with pics ASAP.
Thanks to everyone for all the great info and hard work here, a complete noob like me can go from 0-60 entirely by reading this site. I am loving this phone more by the minute!!
A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
crazyC said:
A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
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Yes only thing left is posting in the Hermes Upgrade forum.. ;-)
jompao said:
Yes only thing left is posting in the Hermes Upgrade forum.. ;-)
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Yeah, i deserved that
mlalahoi said:
Cool, it was my understanding that Hard SPL
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P.P.S. Drinking is the only way I can tolerate having a Vista machine, we all were so happy about getting our new laptops this year, and then we turned them on....it's like getting a christmas present in the shape of a new bicycle, but when you tear off the wrapping paper there's really a tetanus shot inside.
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Sorry man, I just couldn't help myself. I am in love with Vista. No problems whatsoever with it. Have had it installed since it came out and never had to re-install. Speed is the same as when I installed it. Can't say that for XP! LOL. I forget how many times I had to install that piece of........................
LOL
p.s no flames........please.
I love Vista. Its given my two year old laptop a new lease of life.
Hi mlalahoi,
I am getting a lot of issues after installing CE-Start. Played virtually with every WM 6 ROM arround and still experiencing freezing.
Have run Shadow and LVSW without CE-Start for couple of days and both ROMs was very stable and fast. After CE-Start lot of problems.
Will be nice to hear your experience with the Chinese characters
crazyC said:
A noob who has read the posts and wiki, and then created and tested a step by step routine for others like himself in order to address something that the wiki doesn't.
A fine example that a lot of others should note.
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I'm drinking to that CrazyC - my first couple of posts made me look a total ARSE (But I've learned loads since then...Honest)
marttin said:
Hi mlalahoi,
I am getting a lot of issues after installing CE-Start. Played virtually with every WM 6 ROM arround and still experiencing freezing.
Have run Shadow and LVSW without CE-Start for couple of days and both ROMs was very stable and fast. After CE-Start lot of problems.
Will be nice to hear your experience with the Chinese characters
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Did you download the 2.8 Suite from the mobem website here AND use thier installer to install TO THE PHONE (install to SD doesn't work)?
I had similar problems when I went through the process of getting my hermes to be dual English and Chinese. THe first time I tried to manually install some cab files I found on a chines forum somewhere, totally jerked my normally very good Shaps ROM. I ended up having to do a hard reset, trying to uninstall the cabs just caused an unrecoverable hang. Make sure you use the official, latest install program and install to the phone, mines been flawless ever since.
Without registering you don't get the dictionary, but you can get a really good free version of CEDICT for mobiles here, it allows you to search by pinyin w/wo tones, english, or chinese characters. If you have trouble getting it to copy-paste between other apps try this app from the Wiki.
I have a collection of good ppc Chinese learning tools, pm me if you want to set up a file transfer, and do check out www.mandarintools.com for all your CHinese computing needs, no affiliation, just a great site.
Hi mlalahoi,
Thanks for the links! Actually I was using all the time v2.8 of Ce-Star, including the original installer - never used cabs to install. I found that "my" version of Ce-Star package is 6KB less than the one you recomended - here might be the problem. During the weekend will flash a new Rom and will play with the "new" Ce-Star 2.8 -- hope it will rock
I am using the ppc version of 金山 (PowerWord) and it serves me well. My Chinese characters needs are very simple ones - to be able to reed text and e-mails in Chinese, and rarely to answer using characters.
Will send you feedback about stability of the ROMs with "new" Ce-Star
Ok so I have a 8925. Love it, but don't want all the AT&T on it so I figured I would flash it....well I ran into the problem where none of the flashing software I have found will work with Linux. I am running Ubuntu and cannot get any of the flashers to work. Also I have STILL having a hard time connecting my 8925 to my computer because of the Ubuntu OS.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is the 8925 info in the Hermes sub-category? or the Herald? I have seen info in both and was a little confused. Sorry if this is the wrong section.
go to Kaiser forum for 8925
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Ok so I have a 8925. Love it, but don't want all the AT&T on it so I figured I would flash it....well I ran into the problem where none of the flashing software I have found will work with Linux. I am running Ubuntu and cannot get any of the flashers to work. Also I have STILL having a hard time connecting my 8925 to my computer because of the Ubuntu OS.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is the 8925 info in the Hermes sub-category? or the Herald? I have seen info in both and was a little confused. Sorry if this is the wrong section.
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Ok so you're new AND you've got better phone than me - I'm incredibly jealous so please go away - here is probably the best place to go to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser.
Oh yes, welcome to the forum and enjoy
thanks. the only reason I have a better phone is because my mom got it....lol im 22 and in college and needed a new phone (since my 8525 got ran over by a car) so I told my mom she would LOVE this one, the 8925. She bought it and couldnt figure out how the hell to do anything with it so I traded he my older RAZR for the 8925....lol
Thanks and love you mom....lol
You've probably gone to the right forum now, but if by any chance you read this. you should google for flashing from SD card.
this should help you to get round the issues of the flashing software being written for M$ Windows.
all you basicly do is extract the rom/radio image from the executable put it on the root of your SD card with a file name and boot your phone into bootloader mode (IIRC)
no need to use the PC so should resolve your issues.
(wow well done not getting flammed for that post btw... this isn't the friendliest forum in the world!)
BTW also... well done on that phone swap trick... my dad is often good for that kinda fun and games
Hi guys I am sorry if I am posting this in the wrong forum or if this has already been asked elsewhere.
My universal was running great all my apps on wm5 lovely I even just bought copilot for it and that worked great also! I then found the HTC home feature that displays on your today screen I installed this on wm5 and it worked but not very well so I decided to flash my universal with the wm6 rom customized to run on my system with 64mb ram. I think the biggest mistake I made was trying to do this under windows vista as the pc crashed leaving my Universal saying Serial (or USB if connected to pc) and displaying v2.0.1 at bottom. I have tried to recover the device using the methods on the wiki but the device is recognised by the pc as a mobile pocket PC and is refusing to allow me to update the driver so I cannot install the usb modem driver for vista! I am going to my brothers this evening and will try to recover again on an XP system I hope it work I have only had my universal for 4 days! I had aq smilar experience with my SPC C600 when I first got that - I love fidling thats my problem!!! - One last thing to point out is that I do not know it thte device if fully unlocked, I presume as it has gone to the stage of stuck on bootloader it must be?!? Any positive words of encouragement welcome!
Regards
Gene
Anyone! lol I know this was only posted an hour ago - I guess I am stuck in bootlader is that correct?
Hi Guys I have managed to ressurect my universal it was stuck in bootloader! I am going to attepmt to reflash my device with a win moble 6 rom, are there any recommendations for the Universal mine was shipped as the 02 Xda Exec, I appreciate you will probably tell me that I just to try one and see if it works but I would rather use a rom which has been tested as working as stable, I have downloaded the wm6 rom which was "adaptedK for a universal equipped with only 64mb of ram Has anyone used this rom? I also need to totally unlock this device to ensure a happy upgrade, But the link on here for the tool (in the wiki also) seem to be dead I hope one of you can point me in the right direction The main reason I want to upgrade to WM6 is so I can use the HTC home plugin. I know this is available for WM5 but it does not display correctly on my device it appears squashed up?? If I can correct this under WM5 then I see no need to upgrade to WM6?
Many Thanks for your help
Gene.
just use uni_exitbootloader.exe
2klik on your pc just try
Hi amm
I am new to windows mobile. i got this ophone of my old work mate.
I have tryed to put windows mobile 6 on the phone as it only have wm5 on it, but i get as far as the phone changing to upgrade mode ( 3 striped red, blue and green) screen and then it says that the phone cant comunicate.
I have tryed going though o2 website but it not recignizing my serial for the phone ( ex contract and also was a replacement handset)
any help would be nice, by the way i am on windows vist a, but i have also tryed it on xp, but the same still happns.
Thanks
Paul
anyone? noow any suggestions
This answer may seem condescending, but it isn't.
1. Are you attemtping to flash a rom update from the phone's original carrier or a non carrier specific rom? If a non carrier specific rom then see #2. If carrier specific did you download the rom from a secure place such as the carrier's website? If not, you may want to and try again.
2. Have you made sure your phone is CID and sim unlocked? This has to happen if you are attempting to flash a non carrier specific rom onto your phone. There is literature in your specific phone's Mobile 6 forum that is stickied or in the Wiki which will show you the best way to accomplish flashing. You must first read, then use the correct methods and tools or you will most likely create a brick. At this point of the game your phone is a little older and the path to Mobile 6 is well laid out. Which leads to the next question.
3. Have you done a search for this problem? You are not the first and will not be the last to have run into this issue. Using the search button does wonders here. If you have the cajones to flash your phone you are adventerous and the knowledge you will pick up will help in the long run. I say this because flashing is addictive and once you see the immediate improvements you will continue to look for better roms.
4. Please remember this is a developer's forum so the intelligence level is higher than most other forums but the patience level is much lower for those not willing to follow directions and/or help themselves. Some things have well laid out paths and others are trial and error. A lot of people here are doing a large amount of work for little to no money so please READ before embarking on your journey.
5. Get to work. Oh yeah. Please lit your phone's information in your signature. It will save someone asking the first 2 or 3 questions I did everytime. You could use mine as an example. Believe me it saves time and people are more willing to help.
hey thanks for your message
I am trying to flash the phone with Official O2 UK WM6 Trion (Hermes) rom 3.54.206.1_6275+radio 1.47 (3-8-2007) , the phone is simfree.
but even on trying to install Olipro v7 2.10 i get messages like 266 or 260 conection timed out or something. i am technical minded and i have tryed to serch for the awsers using google.
I suggest reading the Wiki and your Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
What is the HTC name for your phone? The Trion is a Hermes or a Wizard correct?
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.
Okay - can you do a soft reset and have the phone work fine? That is step one. If so, then go to the Hermes Mobile 6 forum and check out the stickies. Dr. Puttingham wrote a great guide to flashing our phones.
If you can't get the phone working from the soft reset I suggest reading the Wiki and the Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
The Trion is a Hermes, which is what I have (Cingular 8525). I would suggest a non carrier rom of Mobile 6.1. You will find it to be much faster and stable.
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.
hi i just found out that thephone is not a trion afterall it is a xda mini s, can this still be upgraded
I believe the Mini S is a Wizard. check out the forums. All the answers are there. I retired my Wizard 3 months ago . This is an easy problem to fix. Just read. I still suggest Mobile 6.1. Especially on the Wizard.
I have read all of the posts about false positives for Viruses. I have tried completely cutting off my AVP (norton) as well then I get error 0x80004007 I have tried adding a DEP exception, but I am unable to unzip the HLSP to find the .exe to add. I hope I am posting this in the right place, could someone please help me or guide me to a place where I might find some help.
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I have read all of the posts about false positives for Viruses. I have tried completely cutting off my AVP (norton) as well then I get error 0x80004007 I have tried adding a DEP exception, but I am unable to unzip the HLSP to find the .exe to add. I hope I am posting this in the right place, could someone please help me or guide me to a place where I might find some help.
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you could try downloading it using your phone, and then transfer it via usb to your computer, if its just your avp keeping you from downloading it.
my guess is that youre using vista or 7 right?
my best advice is if at all possible, use a computer with xp sp3. i have tried on vista a zillion times and it never finishes flashing a rom for me, and wouldnt hspl either.
i know alot of people have had success using vista and 7, but imho its best to save yourself the trouble if possible and use xp at least for hspl, since it'd be a pain to fix if it errored halfways thru and you only have to hspl once. with a rom, not as big a deal, just have to re-flash if it went bad or at worst flash from sd card
Yes, I am using Vista it seems to download fine. The file is 1,891kb. I had not thought about downloading it to my phone, unzipping it and sending it to my PC. I do not have access to a SP3 XP computer. I guess I will try my luck with vista tonight and if it does not work I will just have to wait for my contract to expire and get and ANDROID.
Ask around (friends, family, etc.) for a computer with XP, somebody has to have one. And certainly better than waiting around for your contract to expire and buy a new phone. Just between my wife and I, we have three XP systems!
I managed to get the HSPL Program working by downloading it on my phone and transfering it. I tried auto and manual to no avail. I got the commercial use error and tried to donate but when i dialed *#6# I could not find the IMEI number. Behind my battery there are 2 numbers, which would I use to donate with? I would not want to donate and not be able to benefit from it. If I use try to HSPL on another computer will I have to donate in order to get it to work?
Why do you need the imei number? When you run the hardspl program, you follow the instructions and donate true the program. You never need to search for you imei number (atleast I can't remember that)
The donation page asks for it. I donated and am still unable to get it to work. Does any one know the best way to contact Olipro?
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I could not find the IMEI number. Behind my battery there are 2 numbers, which would I use to donate with?
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My IMEI number is the one on the top, and is all numbers. The SN on mine has letter and numbers. On my ATT Tilt2 it says "IMEI" and "SN".
You need to do *#06#. Don't drop the "0"...
Also if you have not Hard SPLed a rhodium from your PC before it should allow you to do it without the donation. Donate if you want, it helps for when you get a new device so the HSPL is done for that too, but you shouldn't need to to HSPL your first rhodium.
Cheers....
I did donate, I still did not have any luck. I can only hope they will respond to my emails/support ticket. It is not looking to good after reading the main HSPL thread. Anyone got any other tips for a CDMA TP2 on USCC.
Dear ,
I have a problem, when I was trying to run HSPL in Auto mode or even Manual mode the program is stop working and close >>>> Please help
Make sure you are using the CDMA HSPL... There are 2 - GSM & CDMA. HSPL GSM shouldn't allow itself to be flashed onto a CDMA phone and vice versa, though you CAN flash the wrong OS if you don't have HSPL...
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I did donate, I still did not have any luck. I can only hope they will respond to my emails/support ticket. It is not looking to good after reading the main HSPL thread. Anyone got any other tips for a CDMA TP2 on USCC.
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You should check out this: forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro-2/134299-hspl-unlock-cdma-have-you-recently-unlocked.html
BIG thanks to Teradog at ppcgeeks
For all who are having problems with the Olinex HSPL check it out and post there. I am having a nightmare of a time trying to make the HSPL package I downloaded to work. It keeps insisting that I pay. However these guys are seemingly not around to offer support, and therefore I am concerned about paying for something without support. I am trying to find other solutions. Good Luck.