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Are you happy with you Universal?

i just have to ask this question...
I have my MDA-Pro for about 2 months now and have installed two O2 roms (I'm at present running 1.13.82 WWE from 02).
but i'm just not convinced. i'd love to love love my Universal (I am a self confessed gadget person who just HAS to have the newest thing!). it's just not 'doing it' for me yet.
UMTS (i am with the german provider e-plus) is not spectacular, the phone is ok, but i get mixed opinions as to my calls with my bluetooth headset...(jabra BT800).
Also, the device just doesn't feel snappy. it has a fast processor and i have really not many programs installed (the basics: pocket informant, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, skype & ozVGA - although i don't always run in VGA).
for navigation i own a mio168 with TomTom 5. This device feels quicker than my Universal.
am i doing something wrong? can i do something right?
i appreciate your help and comments.

Hi effjay,
just for one subject of your message.
I use a BT800 as well and have the same result using it (not even UMTS, just GSM). My experience is that if the actual available memory is too small, the BT gets bad quality. A soft-reset and I am confirmed to be totally clear again.
Your question I would answer with : "not yet" meaning I am convinced that one or two updates (which still have to come) and I will be happy.
Ruud

effjay said:
Are you happy with you Universal?
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NO :x :?

i don't know why i do it!
i purchased a HP6315 when they first came out (i was lucky to be holidaying in singapore at that time!), and i sold it again quite quickly as i was not happy with the performance.
i guess i should have learned from that lesson. i was (am?) really hoping that the universal will be the thing it should be, but it just isn't. it's unreliable.
things that worked fine yesterday (i.e. voice dialling with my jabra BT800) for whatever reason decided to not work today. i had to reset and then everything was fine. this is not acceptable and it's so annoying.
so i guess (after my moaning!) all i'm trying to say is that i hope that someone, somewhere can finally deliver a ROM that is stable, is economic with memory and that just does what it's supposed to!
stranger things have happened...haven't they?!

effjay said:
Are you happy with you Universal?
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Not really.
I love the screen, I love the keyboard, but it's soooo slow. I would love to see a HTC Universe with PalmOS Or Windows Mobile 2003. My Old MDA III (Blue Angel) is MUCH faster. And it has only 400MHz (or 420?)

Am I happy?.
no at all.
i hate this machine specially with my Arabic langauge.
no way to buy again...
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I hate this device!
I spent a lot of money on this brick! It simply doesn't work! (T-Mobile Pro!)
1.) EVERY morning it has hang up! seems to happen on recieving a mail or sms.
2.) When you open it and put it like a Laptop on your desc you cannot tap on the screen without tipping it. It will fall on its back!
You have to use your second hand! (SIC!) Even then!
3.) T-Mobile branding is so annoying that I sometimes get angry just by looking at it! Startscreen (morning booting)
4.) I'm using a DELL X50v and a Compact, a XDA III and a QTec 8310.
Each of this devices is at least 2 times faster (Even with switched off Error Handling) Its unbelievable SLOW!
5.) Roaming does not work well. When I travel by train or car, my colleages can phone for hours without any troubles. My sh*** Pro does just hang up or disconnect every 5-10 minutes.
6.) Finaly - this device seems to be unhackable (there is still no SIM-Unlocker) This may make T-Mobile happy, but not me as a customer.
There are about 25 further problems. If anyone would like to see them, just tell me!
This device is NOT for professional use!
eegee

eegee said:
This device is NOT for professional use!
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I totally agree.
This is a nice, first generation beta childplay.
This is something the same when Frank Zappa published one album which was totally empty.

I bought mine purely for experimental purposes, I have no real need for a PDA! As such I think it's great.
I'm not convinced as a phone and will be getting a second, much smaller handset. I wouldn't like to rely on this device on a professional level. I find the battery life very poor and it once lost all my contacts. They came back after a soft reset, but I wasn't happy to have to wait over 5 mins to make a call.
Once the teething problems have been sorted out, I'm sure it will be a fantastic device. It has the potential to be great! I fear however, that by the time the problems are sorted out, there will be better, faster, smaller, more reliable devices available.
Sank5

nope!
its slow and seemingly buggy, i would like someone to do a backup on their phone that works properly then post that to see if it makes a difference... we could end up with a workable model after all..
o2 exec

I love my exec! I wouldn't change it for the world! Of course it is going to have teething troubles, but these are being sorted, both by software updates and the great people on this forum! The size issue is irrelevant, we all knew it was going to be big, and as people have already explained on this forum elsewhere the vga screen is the main reason it is a bit slow.
Just my two cents!
Fin

I absolutely loved it when I first got it. But I'm getting more and more frustrated with it.
1) The goddamn alarms just refuse to work half the time. I never know if it will work in the morning or if it won't wake me up. I spent 1,200 US and it doesn't even work as an alarm clock!
2) The device is really slow.
3) The ActiveSync in incredibly unreliable: sometimes it just stops syncing for no apparent reason at all. Everything worked the night before but it doesn't the very next morning. What the...?! Now, all of a sudden it starts asking me for an Exchange password. Why? I didn't do anything differently!
4) The POP mail account just disappears sometimes.
5) The phone is so difficult to answer - you press the button and nothing happens - the thing just freezes and I have to call people back.
6) Some programs just disappear from the Settings menu and reappear later after a few soft resets.
It's annoying that the thing is so frustrating - it's such a great concept! But the only way it work in an acceptable manner is if it doesn't have any programs installed - right after a hard reset, but if that's the case, there's no point in this "micro laptop" if you can't install programs.

VERY HAPPY.
Doesn't feel faster than my old JAM, but it's got 4 times the pixels to shift. A good memory manager and never switching it off allows it to remain zippy-ish though.
Wifi is rock solid, bluetooth works a treat, but I use that less at the moment, activesync sucks balls, but that's an MS problem, 3G/GPRS/AS/Wifi switching works flawlessy, screen rotation works great, WM5.0 isn't compatible with all my fave progs yet, but give it time, battery life is good, as long as I don't use a lot of wifi without a charger (suits me) , screen is great, keyboard is great...
Loving it so far.

Universal - great PDA, rubbish phone
there is no doubting that the Universal is a superb PDA - i don't really have so many problems using it for surfing either.
it's just mainly the phone part. it's not reliable.
so often i'm told that i was not available although my universal was turned on and i was definately within a very good signal range. upon rebooting the universal everything is fine.
due to browsing the forums here i had a very lean system with really only some basic stuff: pocketInformat, resco explorer, magic button & ozVGA
i was running the O2 ROM (corporate mode) - although i have just updated to the new T-Mobile German ROM...
i hope that it addresses some of my phone reliability issues.
i'll keep you all posted

Besides the Activesync which at times decides to go on vacation, I think this device rocks.
Everyone knew it was big so that doesn't really count doesn't it?

An observation about upgrading to Crossbow

Amidst all the furore about the availability of 3 similar crossbow roms for the Universal, I have become increasingly amused by the number of comments from various people in the various threads, complaining about certain things not working, which sometimes work for others and then qualifying their complaints by saying that it is critical that the failing apps work on their devices and are desperate for help....
At the end of the day, if any of your apps are that critical then you shouldn't be upgrading - particularly to Crossbow, as it is very much in its infancy at the moment. I have no doubt that within a short while, the various Rom magicians here will have a number of alternatives available that are 'relatively' stable but anyone who depends on the functions of their Uni to the degree where they cannot survive without them should leave well alone....
Just my opinion

I entirely agree.
Guys, the WM6 roms should not be used.
If you happen to use it, backup first, bolt your windows, and suck it up if you loose your device, your data, or your innocence.
You will of course screw your warranty and a puppy will die. C'est la vie.
V

captainsensible2002 said:
Amidst all the furore about the availability of 3 similar crossbow roms for the Universal, I have become increasingly amused by the number of comments from various people in the various threads, complaining about certain things not working, which sometimes work for others and then qualifying their complaints by saying that it is critical that the failing apps work on their devices and are desperate for help....
At the end of the day, if any of your apps are that critical then you shouldn't be upgrading - particularly to Crossbow, as it is very much in its infancy at the moment. I have no doubt that within a short while, the various Rom magicians here will have a number of alternatives available that are 'relatively' stable but anyone who depends on the functions of their Uni to the degree where they cannot survive without them should leave well alone....
Just my opinion
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I agree with you, it was the same situation back in the days when WM5 popped out

How true! By upgrading to WM6, you implicitely accept any shortcomings, bugs, missing functionality etc. Period.
(We should stick something along this line in a large fontsize on both the frontpage and the forum frontend. Maybe even in blinking red

Can I downgrade to WinCE 2.11 and get a version of active sync that will work on Windows for Workgroups 3.11 please?
Just want to make sure I am using something well established with all of the fixes, and years of background knowledge available for it
Oh, and I will need a serial to USB adapter so I can sync hehe.

Well, there are a lot of people around who want to upgrade to WM6 despite the fact that they have no idea what they're doing. If the average user sees an upgrade to a "New OS" they're probably more likely to give it a go than they would if it was just an upgrade for a bugfix or a re-arranged contacts database (rightly or wrongly).
The intelligent ones will do a bit of reading before deciding whether to even attempt the upgrade. But there will always be some who get themselves in a mess because they've rushed into it.
Fortunately, everything they need to know to get themselves out of their mess is on this forum somewhere - Unfortunately it seems many can't even be bothered to search - so the same old quetions are bound to be asked a hundred times over the next couple of weeks...Still, we all try to be helpful, don't we? (Even if it does get tedious at times!).

lol, no, it bugs the hell out of me, hence the reason I posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290234
I was a n00b once, I don't think I posted any lame questions, maybe some, I can't be bothered to go back and look, but from memory, it was only after I couldn't find it with the search that I asked somewhere.
I don't have anything critical I just have to run. Sure, there's software I have bought, and would be irritated if it didn't work immediately after an upgrade, but I am happy to take the risk, I have a Univeral and a Wizard, so I can always use the other if I have problems on one.
It's like this on anything though, something new comes out, everyone thinks they are an instant expert, messes it all up, and then begs for help because they were too lazy and stupid to read a few pages that would have explained it all to them.

Help, I just flashed my Universal to WM7 (Photon) that I downloaded from your website, and now it does not come past the bootscreen anymore ... I need my machine yesterday because my life depends on it, and I did not make a backup and now Microsoft has caused me to ruin my machine causing me to go out of business and you have to help me since I got the rom update from your website!!
(hehehehehe)

Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.

Partially I agree, but i mean normal (lame) user who wants to upgrade only to show his palls couple of different # on boot screen. but i think helmi, ivan, indra or all else would never do good,working rom (like ivans aku 3.2, helmi 3.5), which are stable w/o feedback.
worst is here is helluva lot of people with prob."i tried 2 upgr. 2 wm6 & got COUNTRY ID err)

I love wm6 http email function. And somebody get the wm6 messenging in wm5?any hacks?

My mate sent me this, just some info that most people Know.
Testers of Windows Mobile Codenamed Crossbow (or Windows Mobile 6.0) have leaked at least 2 versions of the pre-release online,
According to our source betacollector the pre-release is incomplete, missing a few functions but working fine.
No Windows start orb here, that seems to be cropping up on everywhere on Microsoft software now, but then again WM6 is not yet final -who knows if that will be included in the final release.
The leaked version specs: WM6PreRelease.rar (54177kb) Build date 1/12/2006 (15341.4.2.0) Rom 2.00.02.pv / External Rom 2.02 PDAVIET
Theres also a second one WM6CB.rar weighing in at 59608kb for the MDA Pro / Universal or qtec 9000 that one is older than the above mentioned leak.

AlanJC said:
Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.
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Hahahahaha!!
Don't try this at home!!
I did an upgrade to WM6 on a fairly new 9000. Took me almost 6 hours to complete. The damn thing got stuck in the bootloader, lost my RADIo ROM, got it "bricked", managed to un-brick it again, lost my EXT. ROM, but at the end, it worked out and now the "damn thing" works fine on a brand new WM6 ROM. Exept for video calling and a few minor bugs I have no complains.....
Moral of the story. I am a man. Men like to do technical stuff. If you do not know what you are doing, stay off the damn thing. If you like to inflict pain on your self, but know what you are doing, just do.
Fooling around with some new gagets is cool. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't........
In my case, it worked out. Me is happy.........

AlanJC said:
Well if you can get to the boot screen, all is not lost.
Get some superglue, and put a few drops into the USB socket.
Plug it in, and give it at least an hour to dry.
Now carefeully hold your device in one hand, and the cable in the other.
Now pull the cable out as fast as you can.
This shold prevent any further upgrading issues, or problems from ever happening to your device again.
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errrr .... will this speed up my UMTS connection? I tried searching the board on superglue+umts but I can't find anything ;-)

onlineemails said:
I love wm6 http email function. And somebody get the wm6 messenging in wm5?any hacks?
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I thought it was great until I got two eMails in the space of 3 hours that caused it to crash when trying to view them...
Cheers,
Steve.

It got an limit for email for example 10kb and after that it doesnt get the email in full and you can request to get it full,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1104565#post1104565

STABLE Radio ROM for WM6 ???

Hello, I just upgraded to official ROM 3.54.255.3 with Radio 1.48.00.10. It was absolutely useless. Phone was freezing very often, calls were lost in couple of seconds, but the timer continued to count and all looked like the call continues. It was not possible to finish it by red button or “End” button on display, just by Soft Reset.
I upgraded just Radio to 1.51.00.10. It’s better but still bad. I’m loosing calls, sometimes Internet connections falls down stating that modem was disconnected and than phone searches for signal again. Sometimes after reset Phone part doesn’t start and doesn’t require PIN. It’s necessary to reset couple of times or to remove battery and switch it on again.
Could someone please recommend me proved version of Radio ROM? I’m using in Czech Republic for O2 (former Eurotel) network.
Is it possible, that it’s HW problem? My TyNT felt down on the floor couple of times
THANK YOU ALL A LOT IN ADVANCE

TYTN in Serbia - same GSM radio problems!
Please is there any known stable version that works in third world countries?
TYTN is almost completely uselell with 1.41 radio in Serbia!
Even if it is old rom no problem! I'm willing to go back to wm5 if needed just to have good and stable GSM!
Is there any app capable of testing htc radio to see if it is hardware flow?
Please HELP!

i have the oficial rom instaled in english and everything works fine more faster and more stable

Downgraded radio to 1.47.00.10 yesterday evening, looks better, will post results this evening.

1.47.00.10 is what i've downgraded to.
1.50 and 1.48 were absolute crap for me in California.

1.47.00.10 is a great radio! no complaints at all so far

This discussion is useless - best radio depends on local network you are using. For me the best still is 1.38 (Plus GSM in Poland), but I know that in Era GSM people have no problem with 1.51.
So the best is to try all available version and check, which one works best in given country, network and region, not to mention if we are using GSM or 3G.

crap radios
Same problems with these radio and O2 in CZ

So I was testing 1.47.00.10 whole day. Another disaster, on the beginning of the they everything was fine, with every call received the behavior of TyNT was worst and worst. Sometimes SMS were send after second try. On the end of the day I was not able to receive calls not even leave them unanswered – every time TyNT frozes. After Soft Reset the booting white screen was showing NO GSM…
After Hard Reset everything works OK again, but I really do not want HR on daily basis So trying to find another Radio ROM for CZ O2

Same problems with radio 1.51.00.10 - O2 in CZ

ok
1.50.08 work perfect for me.

tested 5-6 radio versions in Serbia NO LUCK
AT the end I hope that unit is bad and that replacement with other one will help
Is it posible to be due to rom since I also am getting message NO GSM during BOOT and before windows. It looks to me that radio on mine device might be in some hardware problem?
Any suggestions?

Just uploaded 1.38.30.10. As always looks and works perfectly on beginning

i put RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe ftom america.htc i think. it is complete rom with radio 1.40.30 and works best so far in seerbia but still with problems. At least it doesn't freez phone like other versions!

So tried 1.38.30.10, doesn‘t work as well. I changed ROM to Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.57a_Lite_28-07.exe. Looks fine, but together with 1.38.30.10 doesn’t work. Upgraded Radio ROM to 1.50.00.00 which looks fine together, but still sometimes phone indicates “NO GSM”. Will test again during the day. If it will not work, it’s time to send it to service.
I’m already starting to looking forward to Nokia N95 that I will bought after loosing patience with TyNT.

tytn damaged
I would like to conclude that in my own opinion we are both stuc with bad units. Today i took another tytn and tested it with network in serbia and it worked fine. So changing rom doesn't help me. I have no option but to give it to be repaired.
Nokia is nice but it is different story if you ask me
HTC and windows is my choice!
Do yu thinking about changing radio on it (hardware)
All the best!

Ok
1.50.008 work excellent in my AT&T 8525 Hermes!!

IT LOOKS LIKE MY STORY HAS UNBELIAVEBLE HAPPY END which makes it may be most stupid story on this web. After trying 2 different ROMs and 6 different Radio ROMs I lost my patience and decided to go to service of HTC. So I exported most important contacts and uploaded them to my old Nokia 6280. In the morning I needed to send 2 SMSes and make one call. During this my NOKIA without any „smart“ OS restarted 2 times searching for signal. This phone was never problematic a never did that. So it indicated possible problem with SIM card. I went to O2 store and asked for new SIM. I got it in 5 minutes for free including switching all systems to new one. From this moment TyTN flashed to Official WM6 ROM 3.54 with radio 1.48.00.10 works without any problem and any single soft reset. I’m connected on 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) whole day and I lost connection only three times, but without problem to establish it again. I still expect, that the problem will come, but more it’s seems like that only problem was SIM card. The phone is more stable then ever before, so probably I had in some way corrupted SIM from beginning with O2… I will inform, if it keeps working.

Good for you
Me unfortunately, i wasn't that lucky. I replaced sim with new one 7 days ago and it didn't help
Enyoy your HTC!

150.00.00 and 148.00.00 works great in around Phoenix area AT&T

Samsung i780 - Is it possible to run Hard SPL and other ROMs?

Hello Everyone!
I want to thank you all for making this site so informative and to the point - as I have been a frequent visitor since the days of my first (original) SPV. I have finally decided to try a different phone to my usual HTC choice and have just got the Orange i780 (which is a great phone! )
I was wondering if it might be possible to run something like HARD SPL on it and then put on a cooked ROM as the supplied Orange ROM is, as ever, far from thrilling. I would appreciate any help and if anyone wants some more information about the phone (as so little is currently available at the moment) ask away - and I will reply as soon as I get the chance.
Thank you!

I was going to get one of these, is it worth having? Have orange removed all the samsung stuff and put on their own stupid menu?

yup- they have. But its a gorgeous phone so as soon as it becomes possible to put new ROMs on it, it will be one of the best ones around in its form factor. Its nice to have something that feels half the weight of the TYTN2 and more than half as thin

Has anyone got an english rom working on the German Version of the i780? I see it is availiable on www.handit.de at a much cheaper price.

Has anyone tried the SDHC compatibility yet, I want to order a MicroSD card and will get the 8GB if it supports it?

airbedman said:
Has anyone tried the SDHC compatibility yet, I want to order a MicroSD card and will get the 8GB if it supports it?
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Sandisk 8GB microSDHC...works fine!

airbedman said:
I was going to get one of these, is it worth having? Have orange removed all the samsung stuff and put on their own stupid menu?
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Definetely. It's the fastest WM device ever. The mousepad is really cool. Better resolution (also yet, many programms have problems with it, not correct displaying etc.). Amazing build quality.
One thing that's missing is a cooked rom. The Software has bugs over bugs. a developer customized rom would be amazing.
But the device itself and esp. it's performance (processor) is the best ever!

vbijelovic said:
Hello Everyone!
I want to thank you all for making this site so informative and to the point - as I have been a frequent visitor since the days of my first (original) SPV. I have finally decided to try a different phone to my usual HTC choice and have just got the Orange i780 (which is a great phone! )
I was wondering if it might be possible to run something like HARD SPL on it and then put on a cooked ROM as the supplied Orange ROM is, as ever, far from thrilling. I would appreciate any help and if anyone wants some more information about the phone (as so little is currently available at the moment) ask away - and I will reply as soon as I get the chance.
Thank you!
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As a favor to the community would you be so kind as to upload the SDHC drivers from the i780 to the FTP section of the site? That way people with other Samsung devices (SCH-i760, SGH-i760, SCH-i730 etc) could perhaps get full usage out of their SD Cards? The SGH-i780 itself looks pretty cool. Did it come unlocked?

Re: drivers
Hi Dominick,
I would e happy to help but have no idea what thedrivers you are talking about are or how I could get them off the phone - so if you can give me step by step instructions, I will happily do so. No, the phone is locked - and I can't wait to be able to put on cooked ROMs and use another SIM with it. Apart from the ROM gripes, loving the phone!

So in the i780's current state is it full of bugs?...generic and orange branded?
Also,would it not be possible to dump the rom from the generic and then flash to the orange branded device.
Thanks

J273
You make it sound like putting on a diff ROM would be very easy - please let me know how! I have always had to use HardSPL and other methods prior to that... Itsnot really full of bugs, its just the annoying ROM orange with useless things there and ... well I just want to run Schap's ROM for example or any other I choose

Sorry i got no idea im afraid....But i thought thats the way it works.....Use a rom dumper which will dump the rom to a memory card and then build a installable ROM from the dump of the generic handset.
Might be wrong though.

I don't think the i780 is full of bugs, more a couple of glitches which aren't too annoying.
There is no vital bug and there is nothing which can't be fixed with the next OS update.
The most annoying thing was actually that the i780 didn't come with any navigation/GPS software and apparently only Google Maps and Garmin XT mobile seem to work fine, the others(like Tom Tom 6 for example) require the tool GpsGate to work with the i780.
The i780 is VERY fast, not only the CPU but also the GPU. I actually started to love this little thing, it really is a stylish and pretty light powerhouse.
Right now, I think the i780 is the most powerful Windows Mobile 6 Professional smartphone on the market(considering CPU & GPU performance) and also the most underestimated device too. Battery life is decent too, build quality is impaccable. I just wish Samsung would have provided a 5MP camera and a quadband GSM/Triband UMTS functionality, especially since the new Marvell CPU seems to provide hardware support for both.

I have managed to get hold of an Italian version but need a UK ROM .... anyone managed to get hold of one?
Is there any other way to change the ROM to English?

Is this the one from ebay?
I should be getting mine in the next few days
Cant you like hard reset it same with HTC's and then select the language at the start?

Have you tried holding down 6 and the # key when you power the phone up..this should hard reset it....if its like other samsung win mobiles.

Yes from Ebay ... arrived next day .....
Have done a hard reset ... no joy.

Ahh thought so.....I was going to bid and then it ended.
Hmmm.....i would of thought all the roms are the same

Really lovely piece of kit though .... using it anyway .... crash course in Italian ! LOL

ha ha ha....
Theres gotta be a way to change the language ...hopefully someone will know.

People on Orange - ROM upgrade ?

Having had my Diamond for 2 weeks now, its made my life a living hell. Slow, freezes, very fiddly and so many calls go missed because of the g** screen system.
Will there be an upgrade for Orange customers as the htc site doesnt let me do it ?
Im seriously considering giving it back, currently the iphone puts it to shame imo and thats barebones really !

if your are french use DiamondStone 1.1 :
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=169&id=15903
Or Wait some days until I release the DiamondStone v2 (post will be also on HTC Planete)

I had an Orange diamond and I had the exact same problems you describe. Thankfully now they are all history. I flashed a different ROM onto the handset. I would recommend you do the same. BE WARNED THOUGH. This will probably cancel out any warranty on the handset. All problems have now gone and I have the handset the Diamond always promised to be........

Fiaudiobl said:
Having had my Diamond for 2 weeks now, its made my life a living hell. Slow, freezes, very fiddly and so many calls go missed because of the g** screen system.
Will there be an upgrade for Orange customers as the htc site doesnt let me do it ?
Im seriously considering giving it back, currently the iphone puts it to shame imo and thats barebones really !
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See this thread and my reply on Post #16. I did it last night, TouchFlo and browsing is a LOT better.
I and several others have contacted Orange directly. They keep saying that Orange DO NOT supply updates as "they did not write the software". (Orange traditionally have a very bad record of NOT supporting their handsets with newer vendor updates)
Of course, to make matters worse, HTC will not provide an Orange specific ROM either so if you want the enhancements offered, you WILL need to update the ROM yourself. I've not tried the other custom ROMs offered here - I'm sure they offer a lot of other advantages, but I just wanted to get the "Offical ROM" update working
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419093&page=2
There is a LOT of info on this site but sometimes with all of the other posts, it can be a bit confusing to understand. Basically in order to update I found that:
1) You MUST first update the phone with the right HardSPL (as per all the Guides on here). This WILL invalidate your warranty, unless you are able re-update your phone back to the original SPL (and ROM if you got that far) - should you need to send the thing in for warranty repair...
2) Certain ROM updates, including "Offical HTC" ones require that you use a certain SPL. To update my Orange UK with the HTC Rom, I used HardSPL 1.93.. and I loaded it using the DiamondCustomRUU that comes packaged with HardSPL 1.37 (again this is available by looking at the correct threads here)
3) To even get this HardSPL working it DID hard reset my phone, Internal Storage was left intact but the "on phone" data/applications/contacts etc were completely wiped - so make sure you back up all contacts, and write down settings (again, read the guides on what to backup)
4) Once HardSPL 1.93 was on the phone you can now load the new "Official ROM" (check the SPL version by soft resetting and holding the DOWN VOLUME key until you get the Tri-colour screen showing which version it is - you can then soft reset to get the phone back)
5) IF you update to HardSPL, you do NOT need to CID-Unlock you phone - if you're unsure what this means, again read the guides for more detailed explanations
6) You can use the RUU that comes with the Official HTC Rom package to then update your phone.. again follow ALL instructions from the Guides
7) Do NOT get impatient at any time and uplug cables, close apps etc. you could risk bricking your phone.. just follow instructions
THIS DOES WORK - at least it did for me... my diamond is even faster than ever now

I have the information that since a few days Orange France ships Diamond with 1.93 ROM and 1.00.25.05 Radio.
I'm in touch with someone who have this new ROM and I'm helping him dumping it
I think I might have the dump within a few hours (I'll tell you ) and will test it on my own Orange Diamond

If Orange (France or UK) do release an updated "Offical ROM", then that would be cool.. but Orange UK were certain they WOULD NOT be doing this..
To be honest, the HTC "Official ROM" works just fine and it doesn't come with all the Orange branded rubbish either The only issue is that you must invalidate your warranty to enjoy the benefits..

jms_uk,
i dont get it your on a developers website but you want to keep your phone
on a stock rom.
why.
the cooked roms are so much better and as you say you have allready invalidated your warranty.

I have a once Orange Diamond, now its official HTC 1.93 with unlocked Sim.
I would love to try out a cooked ROM as you suggest, but there are just so many ones on this site its completely confusing, I would like to ask which one is best, but dare not due to either having my post deleted, moved or flamed.

964rs777 said:
jms_uk,
i dont get it your on a developers website but you want to keep your phone
on a stock rom.
why.
the cooked roms are so much better and as you say you have allready invalidated your warranty.
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I'll admit that I'm quite happy with the improvements the official updated ROM gives, but as THUDUK has said, I wouldn't know where to start on picking a custom ROM that offers further improvements - so much choice
I've already spent a while trying to seach and get more information on what the various ROMS do, but as a lot of people have said there is no "best" ROM because it depends on what you're looking for..
At the moment I like TF3D as an interface, and the speed of it with the official/stock update is improved.. what other cool things could I benefit from with a custom ROM? Any and all suggestions gratefully welcomed!
*EDIT*
I stopped being a total n00b and found some proper details on both Dutty's and Panosha's Shine-On... some really nice tweaks in there, I can see why a lot of people prefer these custom ROMs. As I'm new to the whole game, and my phone is already improved with just the new Stock ROM - I'll play it safe for now, but I'm a bit clearer about things! Now if only someone could fix that damned HTC music player

Hey,
First post here but i have been hanging around for some time and been flashing new rom's on my htc touch diamond since the second week of having it. I was kind of lucky getting my diamond from orange (actually through carphone warehouse) but it was completely unbranded short of a small orange logo sticker on the case. I assume this is because it was one of the very first editions, i had the same issues untill i flashed with a cooked rom from these forums and the speed improvments were outstanding in comparison to what i had. I would highly recommend upgrading the rom yourself, as it looks unlikely we'll ever see a decent from rom orange. but make sure you do follow the instructions carefully. on top of that from my understanding (and ill fully admit if i am wrong) but because flashing the rom's are completely software based, if you had to return the phone, then i understand it is possible to remove everything you have done to it and restore it to its original state, i think i have seen the original orange uk rom on the forums somewhere. as i said im sorry if that is incorrect but if u can remove everything then returning the phone wont be an issue. as for what rom? no idea, i have tested all the wwe roms and have found the one i like, dutty's 1.6 lite i think it is.
anyway sorry for the babble, tend to wonder in my head lol. hope its of use.
Fraser

I think Orange UK messed up and a LOT of their Touch Diamonds have very little specific customisation except for the Orange branded back cover and the locked CID.. yet all the packaging and manuals show screenshots with Orange customisations in them
No bad thing if you don't want your phone to have all that bloat...
There are some nice things in the different roms, G-Sensor calibration and all that but for me, even with the newer Stock Official HTC ROM, its certainly better than it was out of the box..
Its a shame Orange don't do something about that, the customer reputation would be vastly improved and the improved performance on the handset with a better ROM might even win a few new customers who have been put off with negative press about the phone's UI performance..
You only have to read an a review in an "ignorant" magazine like T3 (read by a LOT of people unfortunately) to see the misconception... I'm sure the Diamond would've rated better had their staff been given a phone with newer/better ROMs on it

jms_uk said:
*EDIT* Now if only someone could fix that damned HTC music player
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Hey too right, the only one single yet hugely annoying problem with my Diamond is the blasted music player skipping, gets better if you turn off your phone, but why should we have to do that

alphazeros rom fixes the media player problem so they say.
standard rom with speed increases.
havn't tried it my self as i use swiftbl's rom but it looks ok.

LoL, I was talking about the cover art main view. Its annoying that it only shows songs from your now playing instead of allowing you to actually select whole albums by cover art from this view