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[Q] Storage card for Atom

What is the maximium size of Mini SD card that Atom O2 can
handle? 1 MB, 2 MB or bigger than this ? :shock: :shock: :shock:

ha, i wanted to post that exact question myself..
anyway, i guess you meant 1GB, 2GB and not MB..
so does any1 knows? i want the 2GB...

p.s.
the same question for imate jam (for a friend of mine.. )

boim said:
ha, i wanted to post that exact question myself..
anyway, i guess you meant 1GB, 2GB and not MB..
so does any1 knows? i want the 2GB...
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Yeah..you're right...actually I mean 'GB' not 'MB'
sorry...

Storage card for Atom
I am using a 2GB Sandisk mini SD. Works fine

10x

I've got the 2GB Topram mini sd....seems ok data to took 9 secs to copy a 27mb file 3mb a sec is that good??

i thought they are 'unlimited'...no?

2 GB topram and 2gb stargem RAM both 150x speed work fine
2 GB topram and 2gb stargem RAM both 150x speed work fine. Not at the indicated speeds to ok.
Both ordered on ebay directly from Taiwan, they arrived speedely as indicated on the ebay and in good condition.

I'm oso using 2GB, works ok. BTW how do i know the speed for my 2GB card? wat does the 150x means from you guys?

4gb must be handled. more cappasites may not work.
8gb card can be seen 4, 5 or some least from 8gb.
16gb mini sd card not produced even.

just joined this forum - looking to buy an atom ar an exec. the memory cards that i read about are now in a new format called SDHC. Thus the 4 Gb is only available in miniSDHC. Is o2 compatible with this format and has anyone used a 4GB card in the atom? this will be the deal breaker for me...

normally atom doesn't support SDHC. but you can fix it with a patch. maybe it can fix the storage limitation(8 gigabyte!)

i'm using a 4 gig topram mini-sd without any problems.
got it on ebay a while back and you can get it for like $35 shipped to the U.S. nowadays.
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??

slamming_sammy1 said:
i'm using a 4 gig topram mini-sd without any problems.
got it on ebay a while back and you can get it for like $35 shipped to the U.S. nowadays.
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??
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could u link me to where u bought that? wats the ebay seller name?

2 gb work fine with Xda Exec!!

Using Toshiba 4GB miniSDHC class 4 with SDHC driver for WM5, work really well.

vocian said:
normally atom doesn't support SDHC. but you can fix it with a patch. maybe it can fix the storage limitation(8 gigabyte!)
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may i know know to obtain the patch? Many thanks in advance.

latino_rex said:
may i know know to obtain the patch? Many thanks in advance.
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you can find it almost everywhere. use the search function, I got mine at the hacking and dev section.

slamming_sammy1 said:
i'm hoping that the Atom can take a 8 gig. so anyone using an 8 gig card? is there such a card (non-sdhc capacity card) since the atom can't take sdhc cards??
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My WM6 Atom Exec has the 8GB Sandisk MicroSDHC card. However, it has the same problem as some of the Sandisk cards -- not reading the card intermittently.

4 GB MicroSD, does it exist? does it work?

I've done a lot of searches, but I haven't found any thread that solves my doubts...
I have a 2 GB Sandisk MicroSD in my HTC P3300 and it works perfectly (in fact I never suffered the corruption bug), but this is very few storage for me so I need a 4 GB memory card. My questions are:
1st - Does it exist any 4 GB MicroSD (not MicroSDHC)? I've readen some posts talking about them and I've seen some links in eBay shops, but nobody has confirmed if they are fakes. Anybody could tell me if 4 GB MicroSD exist and where to buy them?
2nd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSD, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
3rd - If you have a 4 GB MicroSDHC, have you tested it in your HTC Artemis? Does it work? Have you got WM5 or WM6? Official or "non-official" ROM?
I've opened a poll to know more clearly if I have the possibility to upgrade my storage card or I'll have to bear with that poor 2 GB Sandisk... Please, vote and write a post telling which brand/model of Artemis and MicroSD/MicroSDHC do you have and what operating system and ROM version do you use
Sorry for my bad english, I hope you haven't suffered to understand this message
Thanks

Nobody has tested a 4 GB MicroSD/MicroSDHC in his Artemis? I cannot believe it!
Regards

Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.

JanetPanic said:
Someone did test a 4gb card and it didn't work for hin. On my phone right now so doing a search would be a pain. Search for sdhc in the Artemis mobile 6 forum and you should find it though.
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Thank you for your answer
The thread you were talking about is this one. In one of the last posts a person says that he/she has tested a 4 GB Sandisk MicroSD in the Artemis with negative results, but doesn't specify if it's a High Capacity MicroSD (MicroSDHC) and in which OS the test was done
I would like to know more opinions and to see votes from people who has tested also a 4 GB MicroSD (HC or non-HC), I'm sure that there are more users who has experience with this kind of memory cards and we all would have a more clear idea if they tell us the detailed results
Regards

Well if you or someone can point out a couple 4 GB cards that are available in the U.S. online I will buy up to 3 to test just to try and bring some closure to the question.
The only 4GB micro SD card I could find was out of stock (J&R music). Based on a little searching it seems to perpetually be out of stock. I added myself to get an alert should it come in however.

I have done a bit of research and I am pretty sure the P3300 will not work with a 4GB card, but I am willing to try.
It is not the traces or the pinout on the card as many have surmised that is the problem though. The SDHC uses FAT32 whereas SD uses FAT16. So unless the system has the capability of reading FAT32 the question of circuitry is moot. Everything I have read points to 2GB being the limit for non SDHC and that the P3300 does not support it.
Another common misconception seems to be that there are non SDHC 4GB micro sd cards. I see no evidence that this is the case. Furthering the improbability is the fact that the Fat16 has an upper limit of a 2GB partition. (There is an exception to this where the FAT16 uses 64K clusters, but this is unlikely to be done or work in ANYTHING without custom drivers. I never even heard of this till I did this research.)
None the less I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I've read a thread somewhere in this forum where a senior member (or was it a mod?) had drivers to make the artemis sdhc capable which usually is not possible if the hardware is not built for that. Search for it and maybe you'll find it.

I have read most of those threads and none are conclusive.
You also can not do anything with drivers if the hardware is not already compatible. There is not any question that the p3300 does not officially support microsdhc.
The debate rages and a thread like this keeps coming up.

From what I've read so far, the only thing required is a SDHC driver. There should not be problem on the hardware side.
Some say the WM6 ROMs have SDHC driver. My Wizard has WM6 and the driver on it looks different, but I don't have a SDHC miniSD to verify. Ultimately, to prove it works on Artemis, I need a 4Gb SDHC microSD so I can try the stock drivers and may be copy the drivers from my Wizard.

SanDisk 4GB microSD-HC DID NOT WORK on MDA compact III
Hello,
I`ve an MDA compact III which was delivered with WM5 OS. I`ve an 2GB microSD - Card from Sandisk, working perfectly. A little bit small that thing for my big fingers... =
Now I was searching for higher capacitys of microSD - Cards and found an SanDisk microSD-HC with a capacity on 4 GB. Bought for app. 60€ and testet on my device: NOTHING. No work. The WM5 OS did`t recognise the Crad. The card is`t shown inside the System. It seems like NO card inside the device. The card is OK. There was a little USB reader in the package, where I can access to the card.
OK, maybe it is the WM5 OS and I decided to upgrade to WM6. (German O² OS using the UPL method...) The upgrade was done in 10 Minutes, but the card works NOT! The same reaction like on WM5.
Now I`m wayting for an patched OS with (maybe) an SD-HC driver inside. Let`s pray...
Best regards, Sven

The Artemis is not able to read/write microSDHC Cards. The Interface of the Artemis permits only FAT16, microSDHC works only with FAT32. Artemis cannot recognise it. Normal microSD with 4 GB if should be at least recognised.

JanetPanic: Before opening this thread I had done many searches to get information about SDHC, and I know that SDHC compatibility is a hardware problem rather than a software/drivers problem. However, I hoped that our HTC Artemis had a SDHC compatible slot, looking at HTC Trinity's example... By the way, before the Artemis I had a Dell X51v with a 4 GB SD (non-HC) that worked like a charm; I expect that in a -near- future there'll be 4 GB MicroSD cards
lSSBl: Very interesting your MicroSDHC "review", althought you have ruined most of my hopes. Let's pray that future WM6 official ROMs will give the Artemis the ability to read MicroSDHC cards
AlfredENeumann: I tell you the same as JanetPanic, the HTC doesn't have officially a HC compatible slot and however it supports that kind of memory cards. Let's pray...
Regards

@AlfredENeumann
You're wrong. The Artemis accepts FAT32 as well as FAT16 SD cards, no matter if WM5 or WM6. But that has nothing to do with SDHC, what till now doesn't work with the generic WM6 drivers.
perhaps a solution: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6308.html

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

That means, that the SDHC card is NOT backward compatible - you can't format it with FAT16, but you can format any 'normal' (micro) sd- card with FAT32, and it still works at the artemis. Tested by me, and a lot of other guys.

Has anybody Tried the SDHC driver from the HTC Trinity yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556

4 gb micro dilemma
Hey guys... see if you can help me out.
Installed the 4gb micro sd on my HTC Artemis and the SDHC driver from the previous post... windows mobile 5 doesn't recognize the card.
Not sure what to try, open to any suggestions.
c.

crap
Actually, after I've tried the 4gb Micro and installed the Trinity driver.. NONE of my storage cards are recognizable now. So I removed the driver.. and STILL none of my storage cards are recognized. BUSTED?!? Not sure how to fix this?
c

SanDisk have just announced an 8GB micro SDHC.... time we got these SDHC cards working in our devices! Anyone have any input on how we can find out if this is possible?

Sandisk 4gb SDHC no go
Hi all, just to let you know I tried all the WM6 rom's on these forums (thanks to all), reformated my sandisk 4gb microsd card fat 16/32 but no go..
(my 2gb sandisk card works fine with fat16/32), even tried trinity driver no go.
Hopefully the new WM6 rom from HTC this week will support it.

็ำHermes supports 8G micro SD card?

Hi,Does anyone know if 838 pro supports 8G micro SD card? Thanks

yes
i have spv m3100 with vp3g 3.62.3 5.2.1622 build 18128
radio 1.54 sandisk 8GB and it is working very good

There's a load of other threads on this if you search. Answer is yes.
WB

Thank you very much . Micro sd 2 g nearly full .I have to get one

btw_: it supports up to 32gb if needed (sdhc standards...)

woah 32GB?!??!
when that becomes economical, i'll buy one and start using my hermes as a portable hard drive...if only bit torrent worked on a hermes....*grin*

It does...
http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/14/winmobile-torrent-bittorrent-client-for-pocketpc/
WinMobile Torrent's been around for ages. I'm sure there's other clients, too.

Sign up for Skyfire Beta
Currently, our private beta is only for users with Windows Mobile 5 and 6 phones, with a U.S. phone number. We will soon be expanding our beta to international users and other Smartphones.
hmmmmm.... nice....

Hi everyone, for my first post I'd like to rreport that my 8g sandisk sdhc micro sd card is working perfectly. I'd advise anyone to go for the sandisks rather than a cheap ebay knock off!

Yes...but only with some 6.0 roms and all 6.1 roms. That roms adds driver for SDHC

why does my 4gb and 8gb SDHC cards always kill themselves, but my 2gb mini SD is fine?
I'm using a 4gb SDHC san Disk
and a 8gb kingstong.
and a 2gb adata.
Thank you!

Do a search for "sdhc wm5 patch". Download, unrar and run the cab file. Make sure it installs on the Hermes, NOT the SD card...
Cheers...

my lil bro is using Wm6.1 blinky's rom.
does that patch just allow SDHC? or does it fix my problem?
because i can see the card.
thanks

I'm using this rom from vp3G's wm6 v362 AT&T rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
on my herms 300 using 8525 housing and it read my sandisk micro sdhc 8g and working fine

Could just be the Hermes doesn't like them, especially if they work in an sd card reader. I have had bad cards before but the pc also couldn't read it.
I use a sandisk 8Gb card and have had no probs... My advice, go with works for everyone else, it may cost a little more but it saves on the headaches....
Cheers...

thanks
It works in a the SD card reader and i can use them fine in my camera. it never messes up in the camera.
thers no point in me buying a 8gb sandisk if my 4gb sandisk won't work either.
about that WM5 SD HC patch. is that for WM5 phones only? should i install it on my WM 6.1?
Thanks

Your wm6.1 rom should already be sdhc compliant, but yes, it should work fine on wm6( theres a wm6 varient). It was only WM5 and a few WM6 versions that weren't.
Are you sure its an ORIGINAL sandisk as I've had a few fakes that died horribly on me too.
Cheers...

I doubt new egg sells fakes...
But thanks.

Thank for answer I want to know it

i use in my hermes my older sdhc 8 gb by sandisk and all right

Will artemis support 16 GB Microsd....

I have one question, not on original rom but on the Micro SDHC supproted any cooked ROM will support 16 GB or NOT?
Tell me if anybody knows,
If yes i want to buy it......
I know 8 GB is supported in Artemis SDHC supported ROMs,
I own 4 GB now...

It supports SDHC or not, you can always partition your SD.
Regards,
Carty..

but i have micro sd card slot not a sd card slot

Carty said:
It supports SDHC or not, you can always partition your MICROSD.
Regards,
Carty..
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I hope you understand it now

If your device supports SD2.0 (SDHC) then it will take any MicroSDHC size up to 32GB. Hope that helps

incredulous said:
If your device supports SD2.0 (SDHC) then it will take any MicroSDHC size up to 32GB. Hope that helps
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That's the que I m asking that in the factory made original ROM this Artemis dont support more than 2gb, but after an upgrade by a little software or any sdhc supported ROM it's supporting upto 8 gb. So, as Htc says its not SD2.0 compatible.
So after that also(after upgrading) will it support 16 GB.
That's my que.

Does microSDHC faster in real word ?
Such as record VDO, Take a picture, activesync...

I thought I answered your question. Any device that takes a SDHC card WILL take anything up to 32GB MicroSDHC.

you said you have 4gb card, it is SDHC, so you can put the 16gb card, you can also put a 32gb if you can find one.

Thanks man
so my artemis will support 32 GB
fantastic

where did you found the 16gb card?
I made a search and not found to buy one.

idk if it helps any1, but i have 16GB kingston in my artemis, rom is touch vanilla 4.0.2
it reads it well, i use it for music and all that, but sometimes it freakingly losing it, totally =( i have to soft-reset my device to death, like dozens of times to get my sd back. that's A problem, and idk what to do w/ it. trying to find a solution.
in a meanwhile setting up touch full with cube 4.0.2.

chiqo said:
where did you found the 16gb card?
I made a search and not found to buy one.
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try it you see and order in --> http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...&_nkw=16+GB+Microsd&_sacat=See-All-Categories if not wrong price less than $ 39.59 Free shipping

Sandisk Mobile 8Gb MicroSDHC works on P3300!

With the SDHC-patch (driver), i got de Sandisk Mobile 8Gb MicroSDHC working on the P3300.
I have learned from all of you, now it was my turn to give something back.
I don't know if you need more information, but i use Windows Mobiel 6.1 .
It's not much what i have to say, but maybe it helps somebody who's looking for answers.
With greetings,
Guus.
Ps: I had a less time to read all your posts with micro-SDHC cards. (My bad.)
"For the good of the many", please delete this post because there are many more and better answers about micro-SDHC-cards.

8GB works in all new artemis roms

well, maybe on nokia phones with their own or symbian OS they have limitations...
but with the SDHC patch applied to a windows mobile phone... my theory is that ANY sdhc should work. be it 4gb, 8gb or 32gb
we'll see when those cards come out

so if i'll buy TRANSFLASH SANDISK 4 Gb. HC does it work?!
i've p3300 @ wm6 original..

READ!!!!!
use the patch in other posts for sdhc support. yesssssss!!! then it will work!
search the forum! good luck.

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§LUCA§ said:
so if i'll buy TRANSFLASH SANDISK 4 Gb. HC does it work?!
i've p3300 @ wm6 original..
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hy,
try to update rom, and..after that will work
When I took it from shop I've try an 4 g card..no work, Aftaer that update, and now ai have an 8 g Kingmax class 4 Rom..black and blue 5, thanks
Good luck! And Merry Christmass to all!