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New Tzones Hack

It looks like not every knows this.
In settings on connections on GPRS:
1- If you have the tzones Hack 5.99:
And you still using proxy hack try to change your acces point from " wap.voicesteam.com " to " epc.tmobile.com " you should get a better connection and better speed also get skyfire working !
PS: don't forget to delete your proxy and change from " connects to the wap network " to " connects to the internet "
If YOU have the new web2go 10.00:
1- Or you miss out on the tzones you will need to get the web2go T-mobile its not offering it anymore so if YOU have the 5.99 and remove it and then want it back you will have to pay 10.00 instead of the regular 5.99.
2- However t-mobile its doing IMEI checks on your phone if YOU have a pocket Pc or Smartphone the will deny the service and tell you to put the 20.00 EDGE internet (and thats not a hack) so get a friend that has a regular t-mobile phone and ask him to let you borrow his phone for a second call T-mobile ask for the web2go 10.00 they will tell you tzones 5.99 its not longe available and they will ask you for the brand of your phone (tell them the model of your friends phone NEVER TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR PHONE or they will cought you on the lie) they will also ask, I think its only the first 4 or 6 digits of the IMEI number give them your friends phone IMEI N#
3- once you have the web2go on your acct you just usually have to wait 2H. On your GPRS setting you should have " wap.voicesteam.com " and NOT! " epc.tmobile.com " as an acces point or else you will get a different page and not connect to the internet at all.
4- and most important (PS: don't forget your tricking t-mobile customer service in thinking you have a regular phone and NOT a PPC or a SP so its up to you if you want to lie and just DON'T blame it on ME! )
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Ok So I didn't found this anywhere else so I'm adding it to this old post.
1$ a day for unlimited TxT, IM, WEB and 00.15C a min.
1- Get a Prepayd sim card from T-mobile (yes on prepay)
2- activate your sim card and ask for the "sidekick plan" they might ask you for a sidekick IMEI number so find a friend or something!! (I got lucky and didn't got asked for one.)
3- Once activated, get into your "Connection Setting" and on "GPRS" find "T-mobile Data"
4- Edit the "Access point" from whatever you have (usually: wap.voicestream.com) to hiptop.t-mobile.com
ENJOY!!!! ^_^ ENJOY!!!!
PS: BTW regular Internet Explorer does not work for me but email and Skyfire does.
Known Access Points:
wap.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com
internet3.voicestream.com
epc.tmobile.com
hiptop.t-mobile.com
Tzones Proxy:
216.155.165.50:8080
ENJOY!!!! ^_^ ENJOY!!!!

I used this epc.tmobile.com for a while. It's certainly better than the wap.voicestream.com. However, a month later I noticed an entry on my monthly bill, something like "Internet Data Usage xxMB". There's no extra charge. But I switched back to wap.voicestream.com just to be on the safe side.

With the new proxy I believe that they will be charging you, so its better to stay with wap if anything.

No! this already has been discussed before NO! extra charges with the new APN check post N#5 on this forums for more details http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t-mobile/400961-tmobile-bill-after-using-epc-tmobile-com.html

tuppaacc said:
No! this already has been discussed before NO! extra charges with the new APN check post N#5 on this forums for more details http://www.modmyi.com/forums/t-mobile/400961-tmobile-bill-after-using-epc-tmobile-com.html
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Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know

jdoggraz said:
Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know
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I was waiting on that response Was even going to say jdog should know he one of there dangmen

what kind of charge we looking at jdog, will bump us out of 5.99 to 10 or 20$ internet, or per useage kind of thing?

psylink said:
what kind of charge we looking at jdog, will bump us out of 5.99 to 10 or 20$ internet, or per useage kind of thing?
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You will see a 20 dollar charge pretty soon... Haha this is going to be hilarious for all the people running the 5.99 hack... they will get that 20 dollar charge in no time... lol...

I'm still using the old APN...
I'm curious jdogg... how can T-mobile charge anyone without their authorizing the change to their plan? I would think that they would have to contact their customers beforehand...?

I have a really old phone and I can get 5.99 T-mobileweb on it, and i'm thinking of buying a T-mobile shadow or other phone and just put in my SIM, so I can take advantage of this hack.
Can someone confirm if any of this is still working?? I really need to know before I buy anything. Thanks!

odnan89 said:
I have a really old phone and I can get 5.99 T-mobileweb on it, and i'm thinking of buying a T-mobile shadow or other phone and just put in my SIM, so I can take advantage of this hack.
Can someone confirm if any of this is still working?? I really need to know before I buy anything. Thanks!
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Still working for me haven't any extra billing on my bill

jdoggraz said:
Well I am just advising you that there will be a charge fairly soon... Haha I work for T-Mobile so I should know
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u should make that a quote i swear to god u know how hard it makes me laugh when u do tht lol

uansari1 said:
I'm still using the old APN...
I'm curious jdogg... how can T-mobile charge anyone without their authorizing the change to their plan? I would think that they would have to contact their customers beforehand...?
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If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.

What would be the correct settings for this on t-mobile dash

i don't agree
Bupahs said:
If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.
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Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.

audiobastard said:
Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.
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i want the faster internet, i might do this. if i dont get a g1 first,.

No! way man
Bupahs said:
If someone is stealing the service through the 'hack' T-Mobile has every right to charge for the use of it. If you are accessing the service it is obvious that you want it or you would not have 'hacked' your device to use it. Just be thankful T-Mobile has not decided to charge for unauthorized use and make that new 20.00 charge a few hundred dollar charge. Its not like your device is accidently connecting to the network, you have to actually edit device settings to do it, thats called premeditation.
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1st-
T-mobile will not charge you $20.00 for one simple reason because its not good marketing... They rather keep you paying your cheap ass $5 or 10 dlls per month for more than 2 months than charge you $20.00 dlls for that one time and then you decide to cancelled the service because you think their assholes, they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo.
(If T-mobile be thinking the way you were thinking I bet they actually lost more money than they would make from those $20.00 dlls, so the worst it could happened its just that the port gets blocked and that's it.)
2nd-
It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think only the smallest percentage of people that actually pay for internet do this so called "Hack" therefore Tmo has nothing to worried about and even so people that don't want to pay for internet suddenly came across something like "$5.99 Tzones Hack" they suddenly decide to get the web so therefore you have a person who wouldn't pay $20.00 bucks for web but suddenly its paying 5 bucks for it. T-mobile wins whether its a small profit out of someone who wouldn't pay for something like $20.00 bucks.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge, so theres nothing to be thankful for.
Its just simple marketing strategy that's all... Duh!

tuppaacc said:
1st-
T-mobile will not charge you $20.00 for one simple reason because its not good marketing... They rather keep you paying your cheap ass $5 or 10 dlls per month for more than 2 months than charge you $20.00 dlls for that one time and then you decide to cancelled the service because you think their assholes, they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo.
(If T-mobile be thinking the way you were thinking I bet they actually lost more money than they would make from those $20.00 dlls, so the worst it could happened its just that the port gets blocked and that's it.)
2nd-
It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think only the smallest percentage of people that actually pay for internet do this so called "Hack" therefore Tmo has nothing to worried about and even so people that don't want to pay for internet suddenly came across something like "$5.99 Tzones Hack" they suddenly decide to get the web so therefore you have a person who wouldn't pay $20.00 bucks for web but suddenly its paying 5 bucks for it. T-mobile wins whether its a small profit out of someone who wouldn't pay for something like $20.00 bucks.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge, so theres nothing to be thankful for.
Its just simple marketing strategy that's all... Duh!
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they won't charge you hundreds of dlls because you know you will cancelled your service and its simply not a money making idea for Tmo
Not so easy if you signed a contract.
It doesn't affect T-mobile as much as you would think
No one said it would it's the users who pay for it.
And its not that I work at T-mobile like that one (lame) guy from previous post said that we were going to get charge
Maybe not a good idea to speak about a mod like that?

audiobastard said:
Even if it is premeditation, its your phone. I basically consider premeditation an erroneous assertion and I really don't think it has anything to do with this issue. If they put features on your phone that you can access, I don't think they can simply charge you for using them w/out reasonable notification. Since its t-mobiles responsibility, not the consumers to keep features out of phones (which we see they do often like no 2nd camera in htc phones), it is unreasonable to charge w/out notice for a defect or oversight that can be best prevented by the seller since he/she is in a superior position to ensure it is not available or exploitable. If they do, just say no and I'm sure they will 1) say ok, but don't do it again or 2) charge you once for unlimited data if you've used a significant amount of it.
In either case; be skeptical of what t-mobile sales people say about this stuff unless you know them personally and well. They get told all kinds of stuff in a disinformation dissemination effort to get the "fear" out on forums such as these.
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Are you in law school too man? Your argument sounds like one based on contracts principles...
Anyway, don't worry about that guy... he likes to take a holier than thou attitude on the Tzones hack because he opted to pay 4 times as much and feels that we're the reason his data costs are so high (which he has yet to prove), while at the same time, he shares hacked software with everyone on his mediafire account. Pot calling the kettle black.

i'm a bit confused if somebody could just clarify. I'm running WM 6.1 on a Dash with Kavana's ROM through Tmobile. I just got the web2go offer online for the 100 mb+unlimited texting for $19.99 by switching out my dash for some generic motorola phone.
My GPRS settings are for wap.voicestream.com under T-Mobile Data. After doing a bunch of searching and reading, especially after this thread I can't determine if this unlimited data usage hack is still applicable to the currently offered web2go system. I missed out on the tzones hack, but this thread mentioned using the web2go for a similar function. Do I have to change any of the settings or place any proxys or will tmobile somehow just forget to monitor my data usage through this plan?

tzones hack

hi I currently have the $25 web to go and was planning to switch over to the tzones hack due to the fact I only use it to check my emails.
I was wondering, does the tzones hack still work? if so which proxy? I've done my research and found 3 different ones
thanks
pfc sol

the tzones trick still works but good luck getting them to add it. they wont do it at the store you have to contact customer support. and i would use "dumb" phone to add it then switch back to your dash.
use the apn epc.tmobile.com
but be ware they do monitor the data usage

really? because i receive mountains of emails everyday, will they notice it?

how much data do you normally use in a month? i think the most ive used is maybe 70 some mb. every now and then i tether it to my laptop and thats where most of my data comes from.
if you can get it added, its worth it. wont last forever, but it will be a good ride

how long have youve had it for? i know some people on t he forums have had it for years

when i joined the forum i had it, used it for a while. cancled it and now i have it back.
it wasnt easy to get it back after they grandfathered it.
look on hofo theres a thread about it on there

Internet Tethering

Quick question, for those of you who have used tethering, do your carriers charge you extra over your cellphone data plan? I am planning on getting this phone and Softbank are saying that when tethered to a computer, internet traffic to/from the computer will be charged separately - around $100 for 100mb.
How are the carriers able to detect that there is a phone tethered, and is there a way to hide it, so it looks like the data is coming from the phone.
Thanks!

jeeez 100$ for 100mb :O
most of the providers wont charge you anything if you go over the limit couple times, if it will repeat they will limit the time you can access the internet.
my friend used tethering from his nokia n85/86 not sure which one and orange didnt charge him anything extra

My main concern is how they can detect that the data is coming/going to the computer and not the phone. Anybody out there with ideas?

hmm
In short, they can't tell the difference. I've been tethering for years, with 3, Vodafone and T-Mobile, and they have never said a thing. I've downloaded video from usenet, bittorents, ftp and iPlayer and far exceeded the fair use policies. Still, not a murmur.
If they did try to monitor where the data was going to, it would be a fairly simple matter to get around it, so I guess they don't bother.

profet said:
In short, they can't tell the difference. I've been tethering for years, with 3, Vodafone and T-Mobile, and they have never said a thing. I've downloaded video from usenet, bittorents, ftp and iPlayer and far exceeded the fair use policies. Still, not a murmur.
If they did try to monitor where the data was going to, it would be a fairly simple matter to get around it, so I guess they don't bother.
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You're lucky!
I once downloaded 8 GB overnight (thought I was using wi-fi ) and got an angry letter from T-Mobile saying if I do it again they will cap me ... That was ... 2 years ago and I have upgraded since then and migrated contracts, I wonder if it still stands ...

O and O said:
I once downloaded 8 GB overnight
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Ok, so maybe 8GB in one night is just a little bit excessive. Impressive, but excessive ;-)
Maybe just stick with the SD versions when tethered from now on...

profet said:
Ok, so maybe 8GB in one night is just a little bit excessive. Impressive, but excessive ;-)
Maybe just stick with the SD versions when tethered from now on...
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Blame the uni wi-fi! Since then I'm afraid to even get to 500 MB!

Don't your providers cap your speed when exceeding a specific limit?
Here in germany you will get capped when u exceed your limit, like 200, 500, 1000, 2000 or 5000MB /month. Then you only get GPRS-speed.
Sucks, but better than paying 100$ and i never ever used more than 500mb a month, yet.

I suppose once I get the phone, I will download a 10mb file, and see if they change the billing. Better to be safe than end up with a crazy bill.
I have always assumed they didn't know you were tethering, but every time I ask someone from Softbank they are adamant that I will be charged excessively for tethering use - and they do not offer a flat rate amount for tethered data.

Hey, I am also in Japan. Just got my Desire and was thinking of tethering ... Any result from your test? Extra charges?

Wi-fi Teathering

Hi all,
Even though I have had my desire on Orange since it came out and I rooted it as soon as I can I am still working my way around it.
Ive heard mentioned quite a lot wifi tethering. From what I have figured out it makes the desire a wi-fi hot spot and u can find it as a hot spot on your pc, is this correct?
Now the main question which all ways revolves around money, is this classed as using your phone as a modem and as such will be charged £4 a meg http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=OUKPersonal&c=OUKService&t=Service&cid=1044128222320&tab=2&mid=1137070319732
or will it be included as part of my mobile internet package with orange?
I really dont want to start using it and ending up with a huge bill from orange.

They won't know if you're tethering or not. Those prices seem very old as well!

I've used my phone "as a modem" in the past when I'm in a pinch (DSL and Cable go out at once..) and never had to upgrade. They don't seem to notice or care too much.
That being said. If you started killing it, using GBs and GBs it would be trivial to capture a sample of your traffic and see a Firefox or Chrome UserAgent, or some other protocol known to be on desktop OSes only. Then you could be for it. Never heard of this happening though, yet.

Those prices are very old - IIRC those prices were in effect 3 or 4 years ago, and were the reason I switched from Orange to T-Mobile.
To be honest though, the Orange 500mb data limit for mobile internet is pathetically small in the first place, so I'd only tether briefly and sparingly if I were you.
Regards,
Dave

You may say they are old but they are still there prices, I phoned up and asked them. The reason why is because they want people to use the dongles instead of the phone.
From the looks of it no one knows then, well with regards to Orange anyway. Ill be sticking to my O2 £15 a month rolling dongle contract then, lucky i get my work to pay for it as erm expenses lol

[Q] tzone dead today...?

woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.

beeflolo said:
woke up today and tried checking the weather...couldnt get a connection. Then used opera and it said i needed a subscription upgrade. Is this the end of the 5.99 tzone? Im running the energy rom and had no problem until this morning. I really hope its a data/network hiccup and resume back to the way it was...soon!
I also tried using wap.voicestream.com and epc.tmobile.com with no luck.
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The $5.99 plan is not for smartphones. You'll need the normal data plan for the TP2. It normally connects through internet2.voicestream.com or internet3.voicestream.com. wap.voicestream.com is used for MMS.

I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?

dmercado_gto said:
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.

dmercado_gto said:
I'm getting the same subscription upgrade required message. I have been using the $5.99 data plan for about three years on my smartphone just fine until today. Like the OP, I tried all available APN settings to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
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You are lucky that is all you are receiving. Their normal mode is to charge $1.99 per megabyte of download.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...

beeflolo said:
Is that so...
sry to break it to you...but my 3G is back, 5.99 tzone lives on! Around 4pm, i tried it and was successful. This maybe like the hiccup that happened a few years ago. Lets hope everything goes back to the way it was. Streaming slacker radio now...
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I talked to T-Mobile Blackberry/PDA Support or Tier 2/3 to some others. Most of us remember about this time last year they doing something similar to what they did Tuesday. Talking to TMBS, earlier in the day they were killing T-Mobile Web aka Unlimited T-Zones to Smartphones. I talked to another guy this evening that said the same thing with one caveat...which I asked what about those of us who have grandfathered data plans?
He looked over our account codes...whatever that means and he made the observation that the instructions for our SIM cards were erased in regards to our data plan which he said he put the instructions back. I was on the horn with him at the same time our internet came back up through no editing of our network connections, so I have no idea what to think.
I don't know if what was done today was a prelude to the introduction of Windows Phone 7 devices starting next month. I'm told T-Mobile will introduce 3 Windows Phone 7 devices for the upcoming holiday season - HTC Mozart aka HD3/7...take your pick, a LG and Samsung variation. Assuming they don't toy with our internet plans as they currently are I have to believe it will be a repeat of the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 Leo. You buy the device retail you can stay on T-Mobile Web.
All that said, I couldn't tell you whether it's all script or the truth.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Look up one post. I just provided the answer. It doesn't matter how long you've been using it. T-Mobile is changing the data access policies. You can no longer connect to the Internet on your TP2 with the $5.99 plan. You need to either use a non-smartphone device, or upgrade your plan. There is no way around it.
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Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.

Edge was working all through
dmercado_gto said:
Well. T-zones is back up and running as of yesterday evening with my smartphone. Hopefully this was just a temporary outage.
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Glad it is back. I have mine for more than 5yrs. But during this outage for last couple of days, I turned off 3G and it was working fine on Edge. Of course on 3G I was getting same subscription error.