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B&B 4.1 .... Bug Help Suggestion

Hi Tom,
Would it be possible to have a dedicated thread for bugs and bug solutions?
Im sorry, but its hard to expect someone to read through 50+ pages of text to not find an answer that they are looking for, or to not find the solution that they can work with. Or to not get an asnwer to questions.
We all appreciate your work, but bug issues, are really causing alot of us to get frustrated. And all we get told is "read the thread".
I dont agree with thread after thread for bug fixes, and i can see it getting annoying for you and the mods. I also dont expect to be spoon fed.
Please dont see this as im trying to complain. Im trying to improve everyones experiance of the mods everyone creates.
i dont want to discuss the bugs and solutions here, but heres the kind of bugs people seem to be having issues with.
Storage Card 2 issue
MSN issues
Backlight adjuster on HTC hometab not working
Device hanging on boot
Device backlight not switching on
having to soft reset several times a day due to hanging
crashes
Thanks. I hope we can agree on a thread for bug fixes.

I agree, even though i read up on the major rom threads several times a week it's hard to keep track. 4.0 Kept track of most bugs/solutions in the first post but it was even better done by Fracoon in the ROM NewArtemis 1.0 BetaTest thread.
Maybe we need someone to keep track of all bugs and solutions in seperate post or perhaps even wiki, so that the cooks can concentrate on other things. I was thinking of doing this but since i have limited time i just cannot promise i could keep it up.
Ofcourse i mean no disrespect, i understand it's all done in free time and am happy with what i get.

I think the storage card issue is solved in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326334

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there is also issue with original ringtones (ring vision), says invalid media type. i think when you go to registry tom has it linked to his storage card but windows cant find it
regards
alex

a13x said:
there is also issue with original ringtones (ring vision), says invalid media type. i think when you go to registry tom has it linked to his storage card but windows cant find it
regards
alex
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Maybe thats not the right place for answering questions (because its the bug thread ).
But you can fix the prob with the original ringtone.
Take the original windows ringtone ring-windowsmobile (or some other) from your windows directory, rename it and copy to windows/rings.... this tone will work...

Well if you dont' want to sift through 50+ pages of the original post, you'll soon be creating a 3rd BB4.1 thread when this grows to 50+ pages! Where ever you create a bug thread you'll get a ton of responses and a lot of those will be people who just refuse to read the thread. Everyone will just be rehashing the same thing! Example - htc backlight bug, and "how do i use the cube" queries. They keep getting asked and they've been answered.
Unfortunately one way or another you'll need to sift through posts from people who don't read!

dzign-it said:
Im sorry, but its hard to expect someone to read through 50+ pages of text to not find an answer that they are looking for, or to not find the solution that they can work with. Or to not get an asnwer to questions.
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If you don't want to read / do something, why did you upgrade ?
if all people would read the posts, then this thread maybe wouldn't have 50 pages ? For me your statement sounds like laziness.
Just 2 remember for all here...:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
with this position you just reach things like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326066
And what would we all do when there are no more developers here?
Just read and think about....

JUST UPGRADED RADIO,WM6, Keyboard isnt same

when i press the shift key on my 8525 the key on the keyboard i press doesnt match up on the screen for instance if i hit shift to hit this _ it makes a : and when i hit : it makes a ; and when i hit ; it makes a _ is there anyway to fix this???

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340125

chad, you already asked this noob question in another thread you needlessly started. This is BASIC and has been covered a million times. Please do not waste space with a post like this. Read the wiki or do a search (google is your friend- "your search" site:xda-developers.com)

Maybe it should be good to start new sticky thread in this section with common WM6 upgrade problems for ignorant noobs that do not read wiki...
But I do not know if they would be reading it...It is so much easier to just start a thread and wait.

KarhU said:
Maybe it should be good to start new sticky thread in this section with common WM6 upgrade problems for ignorant noobs that do not read wiki...
But I do not know if they would be reading it...It is so much easier to just start a thread and wait.
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eh, I say forget the noobs. Ignore their topics or link them to the wiki.
noobs need to learn to READ on their own.

ClausSanta said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340125
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thanks i found it before..
it seems like everyone on here is dicks when you ask something.. do you not remeber asking when you first started doing ****. I COULD NOT FIND IT IN THE WIKI..
so maybe you should start a thread and pin it.. of if you upg your device heres simple fix's liek cab to fix keyboard layout adn cab to fix media net settings that way we dont have to goto pocketpcaddict where they have all the stuff thats frequent for noobs to ask for giving us direct links to the crap on here that yall are too busy to reply with instead of a smart ass remark.. honestly in the tiem it took yall to say **** you could have posted the link that the 1st poster posted and left just like he did!!!

chad.a said:
thanks i found it before..
it seems like everyone on here is dicks when you ask something.. do you not remeber asking when you first started doing ****. I COULD NOT FIND IT IN THE WIKI..
so maybe you should start a thread and pin it.. of if you upg your device heres simple fix's liek cab to fix keyboard layout adn cab to fix media net settings that way we dont have to goto pocketpcaddict where they have all the stuff thats frequent for noobs to ask for giving us direct links to the crap on here that yall are too busy to reply with instead of a smart ass remark.. honestly in the tiem it took yall to say **** you could have posted the link that the 1st poster posted and left just like he did!!!
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Actually I searched the WIKI and found this... I also posted the necessary cab in the other thread you started where you asked for help.
For someone with 6 posts to their name I'd be careful of who I called a ****... that is if I ever expected to not be treated as a ****.

on the top of what Dr Puttingham said there is one more location in the wiki where you can find it - right on the first place here. Do not blame us for your inability to search for information - that is basic skill for everyone online. And yes your question is being asked every two weeks on average...

KarhU said:
on the top of what Dr Puttingham said there is one more location in the wiki where you can find it - right on the first place here. Do not blame us for your inability to search for information - that is basic skill for everyone online. And yes your question is being asked every two weeks on average...
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ok well im not "blaming you for my inability to search for information"
im simply asking someone for help with something that i couldnt find anything on. imagine how youd feel if you just did something to your phone and couldnt find what happened and why its doing something its not suppoused to. you would be asking people too whats there to do if you couldn't find what was out to fix it.
all im saying instead of saying H0LY FUXZ0RZ R34D TEH WIKI JEW FUKN N00BZ
post the actual section its in and say this is in the wiki in this section so we can click on it and see it in the wiki

I'm sure the poor grammar, spelling and lack of punctuation had no bearing on the lack of search results. I've found an answer to every question I've had without having to be spoon fed every step of the way.

Just got my xperia X1

This would be my first ever WM phone, so I really have no clue what Im doing. But I know I want to change the appearance of the phone, I have not a clue where to start. I was wondering if you guys would be so kind to help me from beginning to end. Or atleast give me a link to where I would be able to find such information. A list of recommendations would be much appreciated.. As well as any programs that you'd recommend to enhance XE1 ...the And ill be forever greatfull.. THHHHHANKS

Best way to learn this stuff is read read read. Go to the ROM section and read all the Sticky's, HardSPL your device first. Then you will be able to install/Flash custom ROM's. I use itje's v7.1, works great.
cwh

thanks, now would that be the same thing as installing Touch X ULTIMATE ver.6.1? 'cuz i think that looks pretty cool.. told you imma newb.

Yes, install HardSpl first on your X1. Then you are free to install any custom ROM.
Make sure you read the entire thread before installing any custom ROM. Most have small bugs. The thread's contents usually give the solutions to any problems.
Good Luck
cwh

cwh060 said:
Yes, install HardSpl first on your X1. Then you are free to install any custom ROM.
Make sure you read the entire thread before installing any custom ROM. Most have small bugs. The thread's contents usually give the solutions to any problems.
Good Luck
cwh
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yea but be sure to check out the boot loader of ur phone (when it tells u the ver of ur SPL) cuz i had mine pre- hard-SPL ed

King*88 said:
This would be my first ever WM phone, so I really have no clue what Im doing. But I know I want to change the appearance of the phone, I have not a clue where to start. I was wondering if you guys would be so kind to help me from beginning to end. Or atleast give me a link to where I would be able to find such information. A list of recommendations would be much appreciated.. As well as any programs that you'd recommend to enhance XE1 ...the And ill be forever greatfull.. THHHHHANKS
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This has been asked before, and more than once. For sure.
I'd suggest you to read THIS THREAD FIRST before anything
Rule 1: read and search
Rule 2: read and search
Rule 3: read and search
Regarding your question, my particular suggestion would be to start playing with your phone "stock" as it comes by default: get used to panels, Windows Mobile, etc...
Then, after a week or so (or when you get bored of all the included stuff), go to the Panels Library sticky post @ themes & apps subforum, Norti's apps collection sticky post @ main subforum, and the ROMs Library sticky post @ ROM development subforum
oh... I feel soooo unconfortable writing this, knowing for sure this has been written before...
MOOOOOODS ???

gtrab said:
This has been asked before, and more than once. For sure.
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Rule 1: read and search
Rule 2: read and search
Rule 3: read and search
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oh... I feel soooo unconfortable writing this, knowing for sure this has been written before...
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Really now, I know it annoys people when someone (a noob usually) demands a certain thing and that was already discussed on the forum. Sometimes it annoys me as well
BUT
PEOPLE, the search function on the forums IS CRAP. IT does NOT compare to a google search where you get only the interesting bits, depending on the rating of a link and so on. And most of the times, because you're a noob YOU DONT KNOW what the hell you're looking for.
Let's not get pissed off and immediately post a "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION a$$%£*e" (im certainly not talking about you gtrab, but I did see a lot of other people posting this as a reply to a noobs demands) and instead maybe have a noob section, with Q&As and sticky posts where they can ask everything there. Maybe even have someone create a "first day guide to using the Xperia". Or at least have some sticky posts instead of the ones that we have here and which I personally find crappy (except "X1 programs, panels, tweaks, fixes [COLLECTION]", "Xperia ROM and Guides", "[Resources] Xperia Wiki Page and useful Links" for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 forum )
Anyway, this is my two cents on the matter...

stormlv said:
Really now, I know it annoys people when someone (a noob usually) demands a certain thing and that was already discussed on the forum. Sometimes it annoys me as well
BUT
PEOPLE, the search function on the forums IS CRAP. IT does NOT compare to a google search where you get only the interesting bits, depending on the rating of a link and so on. And most of the times, because you're a noob YOU DONT KNOW what the hell you're looking for.
Let's not get pissed off and immediately post a "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION a$$%£*e" (im certainly not talking about you gtrab, but I did see a lot of other people posting this as a reply to a noobs demands) and instead maybe have a noob section, with Q&As and sticky posts where they can ask everything there. Maybe even have someone create a "first day guide to using the Xperia". Or at least have some sticky posts instead of the ones that we have here and which I personally find crappy (except "X1 programs, panels, tweaks, fixes [COLLECTION]", "Xperia ROM and Guides", "[Resources] Xperia Wiki Page and useful Links" )
Anyway, this is my two cents on the matter...
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This is so true.
The search on these forums is crap.

ratchetnclank said:
PEOPLE, the search function on the forums IS CRAP. IT does NOT compare to a google search where you get only the interesting bits, depending on the rating of a link and so on. And most of the times, because you're a noob YOU DONT KNOW what the hell you're looking for.
Let's not get pissed off and immediately post a "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION a$$%£*e" (im certainly not talking about you gtrab, but I did see a lot of other people posting this as a reply to a noobs demands) and instead maybe have a noob section, with Q&As and sticky posts where they can ask everything there. Maybe even have someone create a "first day guide to using the Xperia". Or at least have some sticky posts instead of the ones that we have here and which I personally find crappy (except "X1 programs, panels, tweaks, fixes [COLLECTION]", "Xperia ROM and Guides", "[Resources] Xperia Wiki Page and useful Links" for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 forum )
Anyway, this is my two cents on the matter...
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thanks.. and thats all i am asking for. i didnt mean to sound demanding, just excited and want to get the ball rolling on this.. and the search function does nothing xcept confuse me.. you type in TOMTOM, and you get 50 gajillion results.. sorry for being a pain - newbie..

i have made a thread for newbies questions lately!
anyways just play around wid ur phone for some time..flash a new rom...and then see the mods for ur phone n tf3d in the themes section!

Who to ask about closed thread?

Hi everybody,
I wonder why a thread of mine was closed in one of the forums and I really have no idea what I did wrong and even who to ask what and why? (The thread is in the ROM development section of the Topaz forum, concerning cooked ROMs that support handwriting).
Are there seperate admins for each sub-forum and if yes, how can I find them? Or who else can I ask?
thanks & cheers

tesla33 said:
Hi everybody,
I wonder why a thread of mine was closed in one of the forums and I really have no idea what I did wrong and even who to ask what and why? (The thread is in the ROM development section of the Topaz forum, concerning cooked ROMs that support handwriting).
Are there seperate admins for each sub-forum and if yes, how can I find them? Or who else can I ask?
thanks & cheers
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Any mod will do. You may have either posted warez, links to it/them, instructions on how to get them. Or simply posted in the wrong section altogether.

egzthunder1 said:
Any mod will do. You may have either posted warez, links to it/them, instructions on how to get them. Or simply posted in the wrong section altogether.
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Thank you for the quick reply. I understand the warez rules and all. But this question... in the ROM development section:
Is there any decent cooked ROM that either supports the official HTC handwriting update for the Topaz or even has it already integrated?
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I just dont get it
Again, thanks for the reply

tesla33 said:
Thank you for the quick reply. I understand the warez rules and all. But this question... in the ROM development section:
I just dont get it
Again, thanks for the reply
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Maybe someone else asked something similar and you are getting penalized for not searching before posting. That is the only other thing that I can think of.

oh dear, if thats the reason, I'm simply to stupid for this forum I searched and poured more than 8 hours yesterday over posts, especially the ROM post, which all have well over 2000 replies. So I know that people are asking about handwriting but the question usually just goes under in the ROM threads....
Nevermind, will post it in the admin question thread where it probably belongs. Owe you a coffee though, let me fix my paypal issues first

Hi tesla33,
Which thread? I'll have a look to see if there was a "closure" reason added. It's possible it may have inadvertently been closed during Spam cleanup by a mod that had multiple browser session/tabs open.
Cheers,

Hi hilaireg,
thank you so much for looking into this. I'm feeling almost embarassed now for all the trouble but I was kinda intimidated:
The thread is:
thread

tesla33 said:
Hi hilaireg,
thank you so much for looking into this. I'm feeling almost embarassed now for all the trouble but I was kinda intimidated:
The thread is:
thread
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More than likely it was closed because it has nothing to do with rom development. The rom development forum is not the place to ask for specific roms or features. It should have been asked in the general forum.
The Mod should have given you the courtesy of moving it for you or at the very least a short explanation. I have from day one, had a problem with the quick unexplained trigger finger of many mods on this forum. A little common courtesy would be nice.

@denco7:
Agreed. Going to "chalk" it up to an honest mistake made by the moderator who closed it (not me).
@tesla33:
I've re-opened the thread and moved it to the General section. I see no reason why the question can't be asked . The Admins are working on the Search function of late to see about improving it ... cause at the moment, I've found needles in haystacks far sooner than answers.

tesla33 said:
oh dear, if thats the reason, I'm simply to stupid for this forum I searched and poured more than 8 hours yesterday over posts, especially the ROM post, which all have well over 2000 replies. So I know that people are asking about handwriting but the question usually just goes under in the ROM threads....
Nevermind, will post it in the admin question thread where it probably belongs. Owe you a coffee though, let me fix my paypal issues first
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Looking forward to the coffee
As far as the searching, once you are in a thread that you think may have some relevant information for you, you will see a button that reads "Search This Thread". Simply put in your search parameters and choose to get "posts" for results. This will make it a lot simpler than going through 2000+ posts.
As far as the transcriber, there are cabs out there since lots of Chefs actually leave this option out due to lack of space in the rom. Let me know if you need help finding the cab.

hilaireg said:
@denco7:
Agreed. Going to "chalk" it up to an honest mistake made by the moderator who closed it (not me).
@tesla33:
I've re-opened the thread and moved it to the General section. I see no reason why the question can't be asked . The Admins are working on the Search function of late to see about improving it ... cause at the moment, I've found needles in haystacks far sooner than answers.
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FYI, one of the more reasonable and nicer Mods around here.

Thank you, thank you and thank you
Again, I'm not complaining. I was actually considering where to put it and thought "hhmm, I'm asking about custom ROMs wit a certain capability, so better put it in the ROMs sections"
I understand how incredibly difficult it is to maintain a forum of this size and activity (I was once a Diablo2 Battlenet Mod ) and I appreciate the work you all put in there. I probably wouldnt have made this thread if it was my 400th post... after a while you get a feeling for where what goes and also for the search cloud and how to find stuff. But imagine if a newbie comes in here and wants to find out if his new Topaz is an ARM or a SH3 because he/she wants to download the Total Commander Beta... (ok, well maybe this is not the forum for people who dont know what hardware they are using)
I promise I'll behave in the future
Thank you again for sorting this out for me, very much appreciated
P.S.
egzthunder1 said:
Looking forward to the coffee
As far as the searching, once you are in a thread that you think may have some relevant information for you, you will see a button that reads "Search This Thread". Simply put in your search parameters and choose to get "posts" for results. This will make it a lot simpler than going through 2000+ posts.
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Understood. But with threads this big, lets assume that somebody asks in Dutty's ROM thread if it supports handwriting on page 100 something. You cant be 100% sure that if the question was answered it contains the word "handwriting" again. So you do have to read to the nect 150 pages to see if somebody actually answered the question (Nobody did, I should know)
egzthunder1 said:
As far as the transcriber, there are cabs out there since lots of Chefs actually leave this option out due to lack of space in the rom. Let me know if you need help finding the cab.
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The transcriber apps never seem to work as well as HTC own software. I did try some (calligrapher etc) but the results are less than I expected
Ok, I really shut up now

tesla33 said:
Thank you, thank you and thank you
Again, I'm not complaining. I was actually considering where to put it and thought "hhmm, I'm asking about custom ROMs wit a certain capability, so better put it in the ROMs sections"
I understand how incredibly difficult it is to maintain a forum of this size and activity (I was once a Diablo2 Battlenet Mod ) and I appreciate the work you all put in there. I probably wouldnt have made this thread if it was my 400th post... after a while you get a feeling for where what goes and also for the search cloud and how to find stuff. But imagine if a newbie comes in here and wants to find out if his new Topaz is an ARM or a SH3 because he/she wants to download the Total Commander Beta... (ok, well maybe this is not the forum for people who dont know what hardware they are using)
I promise I'll behave in the future
Thank you again for sorting this out for me, very much appreciated
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Understood. But with threads this big, lets assume that somebody asks in Dutty's ROM thread if it supports handwriting on page 100 something. You cant be 100% sure that if the question was answered it contains the word "handwriting" again. So you do have to read to the nect 150 pages to see if somebody actually answered the question (Nobody did, I should know)
The transcriber apps never seem to work as well as HTC own software. I did try some (calligrapher etc) but the results are less than I expected
Ok, I really shut up now
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I am actually talking about the transcriber itself, not calligrapher or anything else.

Good morning,
slight misunderstanding here because: dont ask me why but HTC did not include a transcriber in the Topaz ROMs

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I hope I also fall into that category

Dislike or Thumbs Down to Posts

Ok, awesome for the thanks feature. Thanks to that.
But, if we could also get a feature on the other end of that stick, that would be really great I think. A dislike, or thumbs down on posts that are just useless to the topic, then be able to set in your USERCP, any posts with -3 or more get auto minimized (clicking a + would open the post).
It seems more now a days than back in the day, there are more 'noob's on this site than ever. And they just cant seem to read. Or care to read. Or know how to read, the english language. So, they spam DEVELOPER threads, with 'does this woK?' 'eta on xxx' 'how to install this'....when, its ALL in the OP! Constantly, do I respond back with READ THE OP! Like they should be doing. + The stickies with tons of good guides in them.
So, I know the dislike/thumbs down wouldnt resolve this problem completely. But, it would help clear a huge thread (some with 1k+ posts) down so some of us that 'arent' noobs can go in and actually see comments relating to ROM, not the installation, or partition sizes (non-rom relation).
I understand, this could be abused. I really hope it wouldnt be. But, youtube uses a similar feature, like/dislike, and still use it. I am just throwing this out there, because a great thread (HERE if curious) is being BASHED with TONS of stupid questions. And damn, its very aggravating to see people not read, and im not even the dev...
Tried not making this a rant post. Just trying to see if there is 'some' solution to this 'on-going' problem (not JUST that thread, every thread has repeat questions). And maybe if people start seeing -10 on their posts or -50, they will know they are doing something wrong. Instead of me replying, wasting space I will hit the dislike instead .
Thanks for reading.

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WEIRD XDA- POSTED THIS HERE NOT IN ABOUT XDA...I HAVE ALREADY REQUESTED A THREAD MOVE
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Ok, awesome for the thanks feature. Thanks to that.
But, if we could also get a feature on the other end of that stick, that would be really great I think. A dislike, or thumbs down on posts that are just useless to the topic, then be able to set in your USERCP, any posts with -3 or more get auto minimized (clicking a + would open the post).
It seems more now a days than back in the day, there are more 'noob's on this site than ever. And they just cant seem to read. Or care to read. Or know how to read, the english language. So, they spam DEVELOPER threads, with 'does this woK?' 'eta on xxx' 'how to install this'....when, its ALL in the OP! Constantly, do I respond back with READ THE OP! Like they should be doing. + The stickies with tons of good guides in them.
So, I know the dislike/thumbs down wouldnt resolve this problem completely. But, it would help clear a huge thread (some with 1k+ posts) down so some of us that 'arent' noobs can go in and actually see comments relating to ROM, not the installation, or partition sizes (non-rom relation).
I understand, this could be abused. I really hope it wouldnt be. But, youtube uses a similar feature, like/dislike, and still use it. I am just throwing this out there, because a great thread (HERE if curious) is being BASHED with TONS of stupid questions. And damn, its very aggravating to see people not read, and im not even the dev...
Tried not making this a rant post. Just trying to see if there is 'some' solution to this 'on-going' problem (not JUST that thread, every thread has repeat questions). And maybe if people start seeing -10 on their posts or -50, they will know they are doing something wrong. Instead of me replying, wasting space I will hit the dislike instead .
Thanks for reading.
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Should be in the About XDA-Developers section, and if you had read there it's already been suggested and a beta was implemented in a GNex thread. This isn't HD2 related though so I'm reporting this thread to be moved
Oh and yes, that thread is being completely messed up by noobs.
EDIT: Lol posted this before your edit

Yeah, I understand the logistics of a forum, just wierd xda posted it in the other page I had open I guess (had hd2 forum open in seperate tab). I really dont know what happened.
Anyway
Ok so looking back 3 pages I found this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547887
I looked 2 pages, I guess shame on me for not looking further. But in anycase, it doesnt appear to be in the gnex threads anymore. So, just trying to get more support for them to bring it back I guess, hopefully in full scale. It would really help I think.

There was an experiment of this in the galaxy nexus forums... I believe it will now be improved based on what we found from that test