[20081012] Tip to make Manilla roms "faster" - P3600 ROM Development

Hey all, first thank to all forum's people...
I'm using and testing a lot of trinity roms, all manila bundled roms have less ram and storage, many of them have less than 20mb of storage which means you cannot change manila theme
My tip is this:
why not build a smaller rom with dll manila and minimal manilla install into, and put themes, opera, album & co as external CAB to "auto" install from SD (who do not have sd card???)
this will leave rom very smaller and we can update themes and opera just in time without lossing rom-storage space!
Thank you!

Take a look at my ROM. Thats exactly my thought. You will have around ~26MB free program memory after softreseting the device.
No Opera installed
No HTCAlbum installed
M2DConfig upgradeable
etc ...
Link in my signature.

chalid said:
Take a look at my ROM. Thats exactly my thought. You will have around ~26MB free program memory after softreseting the device.
No Opera installed
No HTCAlbum installed
M2DConfig upgradeable
etc ...
Link in my signature.
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Already using yours great job, i would like if you can put manila default theme as external cab!
Thank you

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[Obsolete] Pandora Naked ROM with Big Storage

Here's my Naked 5 ROM. It includes the following:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 Build 18128.0.4.4
Camera 4.0 build 28276
Arcsoft MMS 4.2
Internet Sharing
AT&T Black Stock Dialpad (3G in next post)
10 Button Black Comm Manager
Comm Manager Vibe Toggle
8525 Keyboard Mapping
PreConfig launches SetHSDPA & SetAccousticParameters.
Points to note:
Button 5 is mapped and ready to use / PTT is disabled
It uses Bepe's Big Storage OS.nb/XIP v3.60 and is based on a stripped version of austinsnyc Lite ROM (with permission - thanks dude!)
It does not launch extended ROM or storage card installations, nor does it include a radio, IPL/SPL, splash screens, extended rom, or anything else. JUST THE OS.
Memory Details:
Storage Free: 80.04
Program Free: 30.49
(Launcher and poutlook.lnk removed from /Windows/Startup - nothing installed, after reset and fully rebooted)
I would recommend you install the .NET Framework after flashing, as I did not include 2.0 or 3.5 in the base and some programs you install / use may require it to work. See the next post for links / downloads.
Why? I wanted a super stripped and fast base to add my cabs to with a crapload of storage. I don't have the time to keep tweaking my custom rom configuration, so this will give me the most flexibility and performance.
Download Links:
ROM/Installer(RUU) Pandora Naked 5:
links pulled - see new post
Kitchen:
links pulled - see new post
More Stuff:
Using KarhU's stats, I put together this build based on performance statistics. It's clean and fast - and should run as fast (if not faster) as the best one's out there. I should have started a new thread - as it's a whole new ball of wax - but it's look and feel is exactly what I started after.
Here's KarhU's great thread on benchmarking. I've learned a lot from his work - it's an excellent asset for tuning
KarhU's Benchmarking Thread
Note too that I didn't include the .rgu files. Please use the kitchen if you want to use the components.
Evolution History
Pandora Naked 1 - 3 was based on the Kitchen version 9.5, but had a problem with PIE speed
Pandora Naked 4U was based on austin's rom release, but setacousticparameters didn't launch correctly and was missing a few notification alarms
Pandora Naked 5: new thread started
Screen Shots:
Additional Cabs for ROM
Here's the .NETFX and SQL CE files:
.NETFX CE 2.0
.NETFX CE 3.5
SqlCE 2.0
SqlCE 3.0 (already in ROM)
Here's some items I've found on the forum, or in the case of the Random Access package, I built a cab for it and included the registry settings to integrate it into the dialer / hard button 113.
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
PAPPL said:
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
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It uses bepe's modded 3.60 OS.nb/XIP, and it does not include a 3G dialer.
I retained the HTC3GVT.dll within the rom in case you have your own 3G version you want to use.
*Edit: The dialpad you install needs to have all the components, including the dialpad and smartdial dll's, to use with 3G.
Hi,
I'll give it a try as I'm fed up of several troubles had with cooked in apps-
You advise to install .NET Framework 3.5 cab FIRST? That is, before installing the ROM? I'm surprised but will do as you say.
Thanks.
EDIT: Well, I was unable to install it first, as it says the version is not intended for this device...
Prerna said:
Hi,
You advise to install .NET Framework 3.5 cab FIRST?
Well, I was unable to install it first, as it says the version is not intended for this device...
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The same here, then I took the .wm. version, that works with my Hermes. How did you manage to install it???
I was unable to install it neither before, nor after installing this ROM.
Prerna said:
I was unable to install it neither before, nor after installing this ROM.
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If you use the CAB-file with .wm. in it (NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab), it should work..
You'll find it at ftp://ftp.servage.net/Upload/Micorosft .NET CF 3.5 RTM/CABS/
pietrucci said:
If you use the CAB-file with .wm. in it (NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab), it should work..
You'll find it at ftp://ftp.servage.net/Upload/Micorosft .NET CF 3.5 RTM/CABS/
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Need login account to access this ftp
username : xda
password : xda
mattk_r said:
Why? I wanted a super stripped and fast base to add my cabs to with a crapload of storage. I don't have the time to keep tweaking my custom rom configuration, so this will give me the most flexibility and performance.
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hi Matt,
I wonder: if you install everything afterwards using cabs, will this use more memory or will it be the same as coocked in ROM? In other words: do cooked-in programs use the same memory (size and type) as CAB-installed programs, as far as you know?
pietrucci said:
hi Matt,
I wonder: if you install everything afterwards using cabs, will this use more memory or will it be the same as coocked in ROM? In other words: do cooked-in programs use the same memory (size and type) as CAB-installed programs, as far as you know?
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Sorry for the cab mistake, I'll fix the reference in the first post and make it clearer. I meant to say "after flashing, install the .NET framework before installing any other programs."
As for the memory comparison, the total space consumption is about the same, but you don't have the extra dsm and .rgu files, and the files are installed to the correct target directory, rather than all residing the windows directory - increasing file system performance (at least while browsing the contents of the /Windows directory anyway).
Edit: Updated context of post 1 and redirected link to original thread on .NET topic.
Whoohoo!!! 2 stars! I think that just made my whole day
I truly feel honored and quite special.
'Tis easier to complain than to provide fixes...
Mods - feel free to delete. I'm going back into my cave now.
Frickin about time...awesome rom. sdhc support I hope? So glad you left out netframework 2.0 as I hear installing 3.5 without having 2.0 cooked in prior boosts performance by 20%.
Device just rebooted, time to test =)
Directories seem take forever to load in file explorer.
Edit: Soft-reset seemed to fix that. Now navigating through directories seems much quicker than previous rom. Overall the device seems 2x as fast as my last rom. I had like 5 programs opened and running and still navigating through the start menu and then settings/programs screen was instantaneous. Great frickin rom so far.
hi mattk_r ,
I love this rom!
is there a way to get the kitchen files?
so i can build my own rom based on yours with the buildos tools like in the older pandora version? of course i would share my work to others
PaY87 said:
hi mattk_r ,
I love this rom!
is there a way to get the kitchen files?
so i can build my own rom based on yours with the buildos tools like in the older pandora version? of course i would share my work to others
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Sure, I'll try and get them uploaded today.
I'm also updating post 1 with a link for a working cool 3G dialpad. I had to verify if I could install one
surrept said:
Directories seem take forever to load in file explorer.
Edit: Soft-reset seemed to fix that. Now navigating through directories seems much quicker than previous rom. Overall the device seems 2x as fast as my last rom. I had like 5 programs opened and running and still navigating through the start menu and then settings/programs screen was instantaneous. Great frickin rom so far.
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The only time I've seen this issue with after running PIM Backup and restore my phone settings. After restoring, it's super slow until I reset, then all is fine. It's done it on every rom I've used.
mattk_r said:
The only time I've seen this issue with after running PIM Backup and restore my phone settings. After restoring, it's super slow until I reset, then all is fine. It's done it on every rom I've used.
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Thanks for great ROM, will try it out sometime. PIM backup hogs up cpu after restore, i usually let my phone sit for a while, and then it finishes whatever it does. I used to softreset the phone as soon as i restore, but not anymore. I think it mainly hogs the cpu after call log restore, if there is call logs of 100 or more..
PAPPL said:
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
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I posted a 3G dialer that works in the first post

Artemis Diamondish Manila 2D Beta1

Hi all here is my first release of a manila Rom
Wanted testers to find faults (Bugs) in this rom, I have been useing it for about 2 weeks now and not found too much wrong with it just some minor tweaks,
Also if you Know the answer to the bug you find please post the fix and i will add it to next version
I have removed Windows live
and added apps are
SD Autorun
Arcsoft MMS 50.31
Black KB skin
HTC BT Explorer
HTC BT SAP
HTC BT BPP (Whats is this?)
Camera 4.03.27076
Diamond KB + Dialer
TomTom + Garmin Links only (Links to files on sd card details below)
HTC Network Plugin
HTC Network Wizard
Outlook Enhancement
Youtube QVGA
HTC Picture Enhancement
PIM Backup
Advance config 3.2
GPS Viewer
.NET CF 3.5
Soft Reset
Smartskey
Hbutton
BT IO
Freecell
Hibernate + Close All
*Jetware Handsfree Extension
*Monocube Safemode
Eten Phoneboost
Storage Manager
NoteM
Notepad
CrazyBubbles
WM Storage 1.8
* These are demo/trial versions unregistered
TOMTOM + GARMIN
Tomtom should be installed to
\storage Card\navigator\tomtom navigator.exe
this dosent matter what version but the exe name must be the same
GARMIN
\storage card\garmin\apps\wm\QPPC.exe (this is default install dir on storage card)
these are here to save me having to reinstall I will remove from offical release after testing
I Find this to be the fastest Manila rom i have had on my artemis.
MEMORY
Storage = 42.26 free
Program = 16.14 free
looking for a way to increase program memory
dont forget to uspl first
download from
http://rapidshare.com/files/151255393/RUU.rar.html
Many thanks
Gary
Youtube not working
kayserim said:
Youtube not working
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Whats not working with it,
Please explain a little more, as it is ok on my t-mobile mdac3 with GPRS connection
Can you tell the PagePool Size please ?
Maybe some more RAM could be get when lowering that value to 4MB.
Very nice, thanks you. Could you upload just Manila 2D OEM folder? because I want to cook my own Diamondish Manila 2D ROM with chinese font. thanks
This ROM is good, but still not as fast as YuE v11 Lite-M2D.
49Mb Storage Mem
22Mb Program Mem
Runs flawlessly even with stock Omap speeds.
incredulous said:
This ROM is good, but still not as fast as YuE v11 Lite-M2D.
49Mb Storage Mem
22Mb Program Mem
Runs flawlessly even with stock Omap speeds.
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if i could get oem+sys folders for yue i would give it a go
Excellent Rom
Great job, thanks!!! Youtube is working fine
In the update can you please add the following:
Latest build (I believe 20275 is the latest available)
When scrolling on 2D TF can you add colorful icons like on other 2D TF
Wtask or better program
HTC updated Photo album (Zoom in zoom out effect)
Thanks in advance
biranouran said:
Very nice, thanks you. Could you upload just Manila 2D OEM folder? because I want to cook my own Diamondish Manila 2D ROM with chinese font. thanks
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Same 4 me plz
mikegee said:
Same 4 me plz
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Will Do when i get home, if you can't wait i took the cab frem this forum somewhere and used pkgtool to create it
shahdave said:
Great job, thanks!!! Youtube is working fine
In the update can you please add the following:
Latest build (I believe 20275 is the latest available)
When scrolling on 2D TF can you add colorful icons like on other 2D TF
Wtask or better program
HTC updated Photo album (Zoom in zoom out effect)
Thanks in advance
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Easy, this is my first rom, If someone could teach me how to extract a rom into oem and sys then yes no probs but until then this is the base
Need a developer to help
Thats a tough one, only a developer would be able to guide you with that, I hope someone on this forum will be reading this message
garymeg said:
Easy, this is my first rom, If someone could teach me how to extract a rom into oem and sys then yes no probs but until then this is the base
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[REQ] Custom Rom HD

Starting from a lite ROM without manila, is possible add only manila HD to have more free memory, update it with new loader HD 0.2 and make a new ROM??
gioiellino said:
Starting from a lite ROM without manila, is possible add only manila HD to have more free memory, update it with new loader HD 0.2 and make a new ROM??
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Is the HD Manila stable enough to use it in the everyday? If it is i think that you will see a rom with it before long..
I mean to say that all the made attempts, have been realized on ROM with already existing Manila, that it means a great waste of memory, because Manila HD not overwrite the existing manila files . I asked because not to leave from a free Rom from Manila?
gioiellino said:
that it means a great waste of memory, because Manila HD not overwrite the existing manila files
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do you know what you say????
Manila HD don't use lots of memory & it overwrite all existing manila files!!!!!!!
just to inform you
i've made a complete diamond rom with Manila HD & i have +/-50% free ram in use
i don't think i have a " great waste of memory"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458788
xboxmod said:
do you know what you say????
Manila HD don't use lots of memory & it overwrite all existing manila files!!!!!!!
just to inform you
i've made a complete diamond rom with Manila HD & i have +/-50% free ram in use
i don't think i have a " great waste of memory"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458788
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your ROM is fantastic!!! im waiting to try it.
But when i install mun rus manilaHD cab, the memory from 50 mb arrive to 30 or less
i means memory of device no ram usage
xboxmod said:
do you know what you say????
Manila HD don't use lots of memory & it overwrite all existing manila files!!!!!!!
just to inform you
i've made a complete diamond rom with Manila HD & i have +/-50% free ram in use
i don't think i have a " great waste of memory"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458788
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That rom looks so amaizing.. But is the HD Manila as stable as the other manilas?
i try to install Panosha simply 1.1 without manila
then i have installed manila HD + loader 0.2 (work)
Installed all programs in storage memomy
Installed Opera, htc volume, Diamond TF3D config, Advanced Config, regedit, resco explorer and more other.
Now i have more than 100 mb in storage device memory.
if i starting from a rom with manila already installed, the storage memory is always less than 50 mb

Create one cab file of many different cab files

Hey guys.
I am not very into the topic cabs, but is it possible to create one cab that installs all the cabs of my favourite applications ? This would make the post-flashing process much much easier.
Thanks in advance
Tobi
Cant be done man, sorry. You cant mass install like 5 cabs in one hit. All you can do is create a cab to extract 5 cabs to a location
You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.
kareem9nba said:
You can get a program to install them consecutively after one another (like Sashimi), however as luckyluke1137, that's probably not possible. If it were, WIN CE CAB Manager would be your best bet for manipulating/playing with CABs.
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What's the story with Sashimi? It looks like it's been pulled whenever it gets posted (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983) and I can't find a developer's website (Google failed me). Any ideas? I presume it's a paid app and the developer is prohibiting distribution...
okay thank you for your answers...unpacking the cabs to one folder is not nessecary because they are all in one folder on my sd card. Just thought if there was an easy opputunity to install all of them "one-click". but seems this is not possible.
Most rom are UC compliant and it's very easy to write a quick script to install all your favourite apps as part of the customising process just after the flash takes place.
I've a script to install a few apps and also to setup my email account. You can also do loads of other stuff to if you want to such as setting power settings etc.
Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!
tobi1984 said:
thank you very much crankshaft. i will have a look at it. only have to find out if the roms i use (leos) are UC compatible. but this would be exaxtly what i was looking for !!!
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No worries mate. Most roms are UC compliant, having said that though I've just seen that Dutty's forthcoming rom will not be but I'm sure he'll get round that eventually.
Hello,
its possible with commercial software or trialware. but it's time consuming because you have to extract each cab merge the install setting files merge the registry settings file then rebuild the cab test the cab etc... i have done it one but with uc it's not important enimore.
i suse this method only to incorporate custom settings in cabs file.
@ tylwith okay sounds very hard to do. i think i will stay with UC then. Even if i will test dutty´s new rom because it looks great

[ROM] WM6.5 new build 21854_Lite + 21854_Clean WWE [alfa-test]

New build 21854.5.0.80
21854_Lite... http://hotfile.com/dl/12303078/3fc7784/21854_Lite.rar.html
21854_Clean....http://rghost.ru/457826
do you have spec( programs memory, etc) and screenshots please?
More informations about
Hi,
Is not too big for Artemis?
Sorry for the question but the file size is almost 118.21 MB ?
You can post all is contain? May be all we need is inside.
And screenshot of course.
Thank you!
Regards,
Gabriel
118.21MB,
I guess its the whole kitchen!
(i`ll tell once i`ve downloaded it)
@iggord,
many many thanx !!!
your contributions are highly respected, especially since they are in english now,
greetz
thormdac
Its got both the clean and lite nbh files in the rar, hense the size
21854_Clean WWE [alfa-test]
gives you
storage free 46.03MB
program free 20.77MB
after first boot and it feels rather un-zippy reacting!
windows default
and some other crap is still included,
weather removed...
nice, satisfactorily lean, but still some room for optimization left...
perfectly wwe, though
greetz
Copy to RomSaved folder
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Copy to RomSaved folder
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Thank you very much!
...and here we go for sys and rom 21854:
i am starting to get better and better:
http://dc143.4shared.com/download/13125274...021418-647731c4
http://dc160.4shared.com/download/13125296...021140-a4acf234
greetz
I tried both the ROMs now, it looks OK but I am afraid I was not able to switch WiFi on...

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