Hi all,
My HD arrives tomorrow, on contract, . Has anyone tried and got Memory Map to work on this? I cannot see it on the list working or otherwise
This is going to replace my Toshiba G900 and my Dell Axim 51v and Holox GPS.
I have a 5day cooling off period with the contract The Terms and conditions of Orange probably mean i will not be able to open the box so some advice would be great.
TIA
Paul
From my understanding the program should scale it up, i know it works fine with VGA screens and from the tech support guys that make it i get the feeling it not hard coded to work at any given screen res, in their words it will fill the screen of the device in question.
The nature of the program wouldnt make any difference to the map displayed, it would just show more of it.
So, its a slightly educated guess but id bet it will work fine, at least in portrate mode.
Memory Map
Hi all,
pleased to say memory map does work. Just set it nmea and com02 and away it went.
The icons are a little blurred but work, though the maps are perfect.
Wiki updated
Paul D
oneflewover said:
Hi all,
pleased to say memory map does work. Just set it nmea and com02 and away it went.
The icons are a little blurred but work, though the maps are perfect.
Wiki updated
Paul D
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Thanks Paul for updating the Wiki with your item.
Beards
Memory Map works for me, but when I try to use the GPS, it says "License not valid for GPS Plot" even though it is a perfectly good licence. Anyone seen this message?
Is Memory Map the only Ordinance Survey mapping software available now for the Pocket PC?
Beards.
Yes - Anquet 6.2.7 Beta...
I'm currently testing the Beta of Anquet 6.2.7 http://www.anquet.co.uk/pocket-anquet.htm, and it works great!
(I don't know the release date of the full version, but it's good.)
Dan./
It's not 100% compatible with the WVGA screen resolution. The bottom of the map can become corrupted if you scroll the map.
Also, if you hide the toolbar then this part of the screen becomes corrupted.
With regard to licensing, the latest version of MM has changed to an online licence mechanism which may be the problem with GPS.
DanInBlack said:
I'm currently testing the Beta of Anquet 6.2.7 http://www.anquet.co.uk/pocket-anquet.htm, and it works great!
(I don't know the release date of the full version, but it's good.)
Dan./
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That looks extremely easy to use.
It's just a shame like MM purchasing of maps is so expensive.
Beards
Touch HD - Cannot open Memory Map map files over 100MB
I have been using Memory Map's Pocket Navigator on numerous HTC devices without a problem, but for some reason I cannot open map files on my HTC Touch HD that are over 100MB in size. This is strange because I just managed to open a map on my Advantage that is over 250MB. I am wondering if this has to do with the vastly improved memory capacity on the Touch HD? It so happens that when I check available program memory it shows 115MB or so. Does the Touch HD manage large files in memory differently than previous HTC devices? The maximum map size in Pocket Navigator is 400MB. Can anyone think of a way around this?
I will post a similar question on the general forum since I think it is a general configuration issue rather than a Memory Map issue.
I have exactly the same problem. I have had to cut London up into several bits!
Update from Memory Map Support on File Size Problem
Here is what Memory Map support have said about this:
"There is nothing we can do to fix this I am afraid. The error seems evident to varying degrees on all Windows Mobile 6.1 PDA devices."
My previous devices were WM6.0, so that is probably why I did not face this problem. I would be very interested to know if anyone has figured out a way to solve this.
Mine reads them Ok but only for a short while - maybe 2 or 3 openings then needs a soft reset.
This was not that easy on top of Great Knoutberry Hill in a blizzard last week!
Had to rely on 1000year old technology.
Same problem for me. Previously used on a Touch and an Atom Life without problem, but both WM 6.0 devices. On HD wound that a 120MB file would sometimes open but not reliably. Have now made all maps under 100MB and so far no probs. Bit iof a pain really, especially as it seems to work really well in other respects. Very pleased with how quick the onboard gps gets a fix, and seems accurate.
Other thing I've noticed is that the HD doesn't track the route when put into standby. Seems to restart and the re-establish gps when switched back on. Both the original Touch and the Atom Life continued tracking when in standby. Guess it might help battery life though. Need to do more testing
This mm map size issue is not new. It has intermittently affected my 2750 under WM5 (not WM2003SE incidentally), TyTN and TyTNII. Pre WM5 it worked fine with all map sizes ... accepting that pre WM5 ... even on the 2750 you could only have 2 x 4GB ... so you couldn't have a single map of the UK.
I ended up using the PC app to break the UK into circa 25 regions that made sense to me, keeping each region (largest map 173M) and it works fine most of the time. If you have a bunch of things running at the same time the odd map may fail to open ... the only option is to shut all other apps down or soft reset. It is not actually getting close to running out of program memory ... it is something about the way MM5 works with the WM5 and later persistant memory model and Memory Map have been aware of the problem since early WM5 days. It is frustrating but I don't see it going away anytime soon.
I regularly have memory map in the foreground with co pilot 6 in the background giving audio directions ... maps are far cooler than street nav ones. This works fine with map sizes below 180M.
On different devices this sensitivity may vary but will alway be there ... but you won't get a single map of the UK ... the 25 I mentioned take up 5.7GB .... working on any device until MM sort out the issue. I last spoke to the guys in Aldermaston about 18 months ago and they clearly knew about the issue but it didn't seem like a priority.
I'm happy to send the outline map for MM5 that will enable you to export the 25 sub 180M maps to the PDA.
Paul.
pgamble said:
This mm map size issue is not new.
... it is something about the way MM5 works with the WM5 and later persistant memory model and Memory Map have been aware of the problem since early WM5 days. It is frustrating but I don't see it going away anytime soon.
...I last spoke to the guys in Aldermaston about 18 months ago and they clearly knew about the issue but it didn't seem like a priority.
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The only update to Memory-Map in a long time has been the addition of a tighter licensing system. Priorities are obviously elsewhere. I've lost faith with Memory-Map. They have had a vast amount of my money in the past and don't seem to be doing anything to help me get the software working properly on newer, better hardware.
The very useful forum from their co.uk website has also disappeared and shows no sign of reappearing. I really don't think they actually care about their customers anymore and when companies get like that it is time to look elsewhere. Sorry Memory-Map, you've lost a big fan and probably many others to follow. (/rant)
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I too found that moving to the Touch HD required me to reduce the size of the maps still further from the ones I used on my TyTn II. I have now split each map into counties and each file is below 60M each. Each area now opens fine without any problem.
The only thing I have noticed, other than the zoom in/out buttons looking strange, is that I can't zoom in as much as I could on the TyTn II. The lowest zoom I can get is when the scale shows 0.5 miles at the bottom. Changing the screen to landscape with Gsen makes no difference. I know I could zoom in one more setting on the TyTn II. Has anyone had the same problem or know a solution?
I would be interested in this too. I am using Pocket A-Z on mine but although it fits full screen the maps look low quality. I would be interested if memory map fares better
It seems there is an optimum zoom level. Wierd, like a full size LCD. If you are on a zoom level above or below the optimum the quality is poor. (Or more poor than I'm used to!) This was the one app I really wanted the Touch HD for, and I'm thoroughly disappointed so far. Need some fixes for this pronto.
Paul,
I have the Full GB version of MM OS 1:50k. I would like to take you up on the offer of the outline map to create the 25 submaps. (I'm not too sure how this works. I'm assuming that the outline shows where to 'cut' and then download that displayed area to the HD?)
(I agree that this is a pain. On my older Pocket PC I could open maps of 250 megs without any problem. I bought a 16 gig card to get all the maps on to my HD and now find this problem.)
Stef
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Well, it's March and that means that the Vogue is going to get GPS and Rev A soon! What are you guys doing to prep?
I'm trying to compare GPS software, seeing which one is the best out right now, so far TomTom 6 seems to be the top dog... Does anyone have any GPS advice?
I personally like iGuidance v4. The maps for my area were more complete than TomTom, plus it actually has voice street names instead of "turn right in 1 mile". Just wish it could get traffic updates.
IGuidance 4 for 3 reasons
TTS - Text To Speech (It can read street names, TomTom cannot)
NAVTEQ maps can tell you which side of the road your destination is on (this great for at night, TomTom cannot).
IGuidance does not lock you to your phone. Hard reset, get annother phone just install the cab and your up.
TomTom does have a nice user interface but the features above are important to me.
I was looking at a bunch of gps software recently (in anticipation of the aforementioned update) and found a few notable ones. Theres a nice roundup site by this sir Dale DePriest here http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm I think is worth mentioning.
From the ones I've looked at, ALK Copilot 7 and iGo 8 (search igo8 in youtube, and I do believe version 8 is a beta) look the nicest.
thanks guys, pretty nice info... I'm hearing that iGo isn't exactly the most accurate app on the planet, but iGo v8 looks very nice!
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I was looking at a bunch of gps software recently (in anticipation of the aforementioned update) and found a few notable ones. Theres a nice roundup site by this sir Dale DePriest here http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm I think is worth mentioning.
From the ones I've looked at, ALK Copilot 7 and iGo 8 (search igo8 in youtube, and I do believe version 8 is a beta) look the nicest.
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I have CoPilot 7 because I had a Q and this was the best Smartphone GPS app out there. It has alot of nice features, but the maps weren't as current as iGuidance v4 (atleast in my area), and there's no TTS for street names (although their tech support says they are working on releasing a patch for that).
CoPilot can get live traffic updates and re-route you. You can also send a link to someone and they can watch you on a map as you drive (this uses the internet on your phone of course).
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I have CoPilot 7 because I had a Q and this was the best Smartphone GPS app out there. It has alot of nice features, but the maps weren't as current as iGuidance v4 (atleast in my area), and there's no TTS for street names (although their tech support says they are working on releasing a patch for that).
CoPilot can get live traffic updates and re-route you. You can also send a link to someone and they can watch you on a map as you drive (this uses the internet on your phone of course).
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a little off topic here, but i'm using CoPilot Live 7 and i'd like to know how you activated Traffic updates...did you activate via the web?
I have tom tom on my touch already-just waiting. I'm also waiting for my 4GB mem card cause my current one is full with all the maps
Sorry i was out of touch (no pun intended) for a few days. Did i miss an official anouncement from sprint or HTC about the update to enable GPS ? thanks
gps/rev a update for the sprint touch isnt out yet and not for another 1-3 months
--James
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gps/rev a update for the sprint touch isnt out yet and not for another 1-3 months
--James
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That takes us to June, but I've also seen maybe August.
I use tomtom 6 and Navigon 6.2 right now.. as far as interface goes.. Navigon is way way nicer. If you cant wait for the GPS patch just get a bluetooth gps reciever and start trying the programs out now.
my vote goes to iGO, tomtom close second.
pls any one here knows if jas jam have gps in it or not?
i heared it has gps impeded in it but need software to activate it...is the tru? and what to do to activate it ?
My big step is to move absolutely _EVERYTHING_ I setup or install to a cab file that is installable via User Customization. I want to be prepared to have minimal down-time, when the new ROM gets pushed by Sprint/HTC.
Presumably it will include a new Radio, which will probably be most-easily installed by flashing the entire ROM from Sprint/HTC. Then, re-unlocking, loading the stock ROM into a kitchen and dropping in SDSetup so that all my stuff gets installed and configured.
... in the beginning, I'll be fine with Google Maps and/or Microsoft Search and their (presumably) built-in support for the GPS.
The ROM Update you have all been waiting for...
After getting tired of waiting for HTC to make their website work, I did some digging around, and I give you [pause for dramatic effect]....
http://216.139.227.226/alltel/RUU_V..._NV2.00_PRL30008_0331_Ship_withSpecialNBH.exe
The link on their page does not work, but I just successfully downloaded this ROM.
Remember, this is for the Alltel Touch ONLY.
Hope it helps!
Does this Alltel ROM support GPS and Rev A? Can we easily port it (or just the radio ROM) to Sprint? Thanks in advance!
MJB
I know it supports Rev A but I am not POSITIVE about its GPS functionality. I know that the update for the 6800 [released at the same time] does, and since it updated the radio as well as the ROM image, and considering HTC was planning on unlocking the GPS radio in this handset, my ASSUMPTION would be that the GPS is now active - of course, I haven't been able to get it to work yet...
Hey all,
I've been an avid user of TomTom from V5 upwards. I currently use V7.
I only have experience with TomTom and have always stuck to it as I've had no complaints. Easy to install, easy to customise etc..etc..
I'd like to ask you to vote which you use and why.
PLEASE CAN WE JUST GIVE REASONS AS TO WHY YOU USE WHICH AND NOT START ANY ARGUEMENTS WITH ANY OTHER POST!
Keep your reasons simple and to the point.
Many thanks
Wayne
edit: If anyone has any other nav software they use, I will amend the Poll accordingly.
I have tried Tomtom 7, Navigon and iGO8.
Quickly removed both Tomtom and Navigon when I got iGO8 running. Both of them had much more noticable lag.
Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?
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Im using TomTom too.... but it does have lag, does igo8 have less?
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MUCH less.
I'm using tomtom, well that is to say I have it on my phone as I have in car satnav, but I use it to scroll through maps etc and find the place I'm looking for prior to getting in the car.
As such I'm not really worried about the lag issue (in fact I don't think I've even used it as satnav since I've had my HD).
I did try IGO8 but I immediately installed the tomtom skin as it's what I'm used to and I like the layout of tomtom.
i' using garmin.i think it better that tomtom.way more options, but guess they all do the same at the send.
TT, even if the last version is not working perfectly on HD 'cause it wasn't designed for it, anyway it's the best and it remain the only one
sat nav
I have the Garmin in my car but atm haven’t got on my phone but I would like to put it on. Can anyone tell me if I can use the software from my car one and if so how do you put it on. Alternatively where do you get the satnav software from and is it special one just for phones.
strange no one mentions about mapking... i'm using mapking though i prefer the background of garmin. but garmin searching can be a real headache
Like the OP, TomTom. I have used several versions over several years. Very easy to use.
There is a lot of scope for personalization and custom of map colour schemes and system menu screens etc.
The supported .ov2 POI files are common and easy to install. Voice alerts area easy to create and install for all POIs including safety cameras.
Having said the above, iGo8 for example has a more comprehensive map set and impressed me when visiting the UAE. I found the display and interface unfamiliar, but I would consider prolonged use with a TomTom skin.
TomTom here as well.
Mainly so I can use my Speed Camera Database.
How poor is that.....ONLY 25.6% (roughly a quarter) of those who voted shared a comment.
If it helps I use Route 66, so I didn't even get to vote
igo is the way to go
i have a Touch HD with both TomTom and Igo8 on, i was trying to use TomTom but found it lagged and was unreliable in getting a fix( a big prob with the HD) but when i put Igo on it worked first time and every time since, and i must admit it looks much better with the topography in 3d mode, its very nice, so i WAS a TomTom fan, but now im a Igo 8 convert.
I use SYGIC (Mc Guider) 7.6 because it´s easy to handle and it works in landscape perfekt.
Ive tried CoPilot, TomTom and iGo8, and I've stuck with iGo. It seems to update the quickest, the instructions are very clear and the display is excellent.
TomTom for me.
My wife bought me a full retail TomTom package a couple of years ago including the software + their GPS device at a total cost of GBP200 (~EUR180). When I (inevitably) upgraded my phone five months later I was unable to transfer the licence to the new machine because I'd gone up a version in WM and my TomTom software wouldn't install. All of that money we'd spent on the retail version was immediately wasted, which was very annoying.
I was forced to find and use a cracked version instead of my legal and perfectly good version simply because TomTom designed their software for one specific operating system and wouldn't do anything to help me.
I have bought lots of legal software for my PC and for my PDAs (and have donated to this site) and fully support the anti-warez policy on XDA-Dev, but out of principle now I will always use a cracked version of TomTom in revenge for TomTom's policy. TomTom will never get another penny from me.
BTW, this is a useful site for downloading free POIs for most software, thought it may be useful!
http://www.poifriend.com/
CoPilot is now listed as compatible with HD:
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp
Tried Navigon MN 7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7...
I'm using Navigon MN7, just because it has the nicest look (maps...) when you drive...
iGo 8 is also very nice to use, unfortunately the Tele Atlas maps are not so accurate, compared to the much better NavteQ maps used by Navigon !
And Tomtom, for me, has the World ugliest display when you drive, AND the not so accurate Tele Atlas maps ! IMHO, definitely the worst navigating software you can use... ;-(
Im wondering which GPS software is best? Right now i have TomTom 7 its good but im still wondering if there are better ones.
Of course iGO8
a subjective question. For every person who says that tomtom is the best, you will find someone saying that Igo is....
decide what is best for YOU and go with it
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a subjective question. For every person who says that tomtom is the best, you will find someone saying that Igo is....
decide what is best for YOU and go with it
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Exactly....
I would have to join the IGO8 camp on this one. I have TomTom as well, but honestly, ever since I installed IGO8 I haven't started TomTom not a single time.
I prefer beautiful IGO graphics and I'm a bit of a sucker for features such as 3D landmark buildings and topographic display of terrain.
The overall experience with IGO8 has been very positive for me.
Well, I would say TomTom 7.9, because of it's ease of use, great functionality and stability, BUT! It misses the feature to record your route. iGO8 CAN do this. Even while navigating, you can record the exact GPS data. So if you decide to take a detour, you can later export the actual route and display it for example on Google Earth.
So, because of this I have to say iGO8.
iGO - eye candy
Route66 - resource intensive. lags in 3d
TomTom - sweet simple to use. fast.
I show off with iGO and prefer TomTom for major travelling.
Anyone tried Garmin? Btw anyone know of maps for India?
I use Co-Pilot 7 on my Touch HD really like it, clean and clear. Didn't like TomTom at all
How do these other units compare with Wayfinder?
I dont need fancy graphics in my GPS. TomTom it is.
Who cares about Eye Candy, are you driving while looking at your iGo or what? iGO was crap just because it didn't have much of the features of TomTom, as people mentioned already, TomTom is popular cause it is simple to use and very very clear.
just one question
do suffer with GPS lag on HD? my HD does.
fastie said:
just one question
do suffer with GPS lag on HD? my HD does.
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Do you mean that its a bit slow with updating your position when youre about to make a turn for example? Mine is sometimes 1-2 second behind my real position. But it doesnt bother me.
i think the most important thing on navigation software is the right voice order where to drive, but more important, in the right moment. i tried lots of different software, but havent found the best yet. igo is very nice, but the voice tells me to turn left when its already too late. and its not lag dependent because the position is right and up 2 date.
so which software has the best voice timing?
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i think the most important thing on navigation software is the right voice order where to drive, but more important, in the right moment. i tried lots of different software, but havent found the best yet. igo is very nice, but the voice tells me to turn left when its already too late. and its not lag dependent because the position is right and up 2 date.
so which software has the best voice timing?
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My TomTom has very good voice timing. It tells me well in advance when i should turn and how many meters is left to the turn.
i downloaded co-pilot live you have to get the link from Alk if you have the Touch HD. It's great!
Useless subjective thread. GPS Test shows GPS signals but can't switch views since there is no D-Pad on the HD. You could try AE Button Plus to fix this. But haven't tried that.
Garmin Mobile XT works fine for me....
Anyone know of ANY gps apps with coverage for China? I have searched theres almost no info Tried garmin xt and it isnt useful and china support has been discontinued. The problem is all the commertial sites say like "100 cities in asia".... WHAT CITIES? they dont say Ive found a few but they only cover Beijing. I need map coverage with Pinyin/English. I don't even need fancy 3d. Something like Googlemap but with routing and streets labeled would be perfect. Any help appreciated.
I use Garmin XT and it works great,
no problems,
it even works great on all the cooked Roms i have tried,
and it finds the sats in about 10 to 15 seconds...
Just to say I bought co pilot 8 (a bargain at £25.95) because TomTom Home still does not support the Touch HD for Map downloads (I tried this week and they refunded) and have no idea when it will. I do not regret it as the maps are up to date and look beautiful, the software works well even though it only came out last week and has lots of facilities including free monthly speed camera updates (although I have a pocketGPS subscription anyway and it picks up these as well so both options are covered) Seems I have saved myself some money compared to waiting for TomTom. I know some users like to go with cracked TomTom Maps but you would not steal a boxed TomTom 7 from a computer shop and that is the same thing. To get application and map for £25.95 there seems no excuse for using illegal apps when the phone it goes on will have cost quite a bit in the first place, owners can,t be that hard up. Anyway check the link out http://www.alk.eu.com/ and see what you think
Hello,i've bought it yesterday . It's better than TT7 , more functions etc ... And the price is very competitive . A good choice ...
I bought it last week.
It does have some bugs, postcodes aren't correct in a few places, the street I live in (that's been there for only 160 years) doesnt have house numbers according to the app, that kind of thing, but the overall experience is quite good.
Hello,some screens :
is it possible to have a screen from the entire traject like tomtom?
Hello,yes it's possible :
You can see the traject in text mode or demo mode .
Anyone else had copilot crashes?
I bought it last week and it looks great. Loads of features but mine crashes when I try to navigate anywhere. re-copied maps and other stuff and re-installed but that seems to be only a temporary fix. Possibly something to do with WM 6.5 as I am running Miri rom version 23017.
i HAD a really daft question -
but I've answered it now...
No problem with the latest official rom .Everything works fine .
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I bought it last week and it looks great. Loads of features but mine crashes when I try to navigate anywhere. re-copied maps and other stuff and re-installed but that seems to be only a temporary fix. Possibly something to do with WM 6.5 as I am running Miri rom version 23017.
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Using a pdaviet WM6.5 ROM here with copilot 8 for just over a week. Haven't noticed any crashes.
I use pocketgpsworld safety camera data not the alk-supplied data. Have approximately 10000 extra POIs installed in ten different groups created from my own data.
How and where do you put your own speedcam database ? I want to use my tomtom ov2 in copilot 8 .
CoPilot Central 2 will read in tomtom POIs, if you want the original graphic then you need to convert the bmp file to a png but it seems to work smoothly
Ok,but copilot central 2.0 give me an error during the installation :
1268 : failed to complete the installation . An idea ?
Not sure, I assume it was the 32bit version you downloaded. Certainly the 32bit one is the one I use but if you have a 64 bit machine it may be worth trying the 32 bit one if it was the 64 bit version that gave you the error.OItherwise manually delete the copilot directory without uninstalling and try re installing. My Laptop is on XP SP3 and I have not had any issues with copilot central so far.
I test 32 and 34 bits version : nothing works fine , always the same error . I write to copilot web support ...
This site has a load of POIs in copilot compatable formats for free including accident blackspots http://poi.gps-data-team.com/
Hi,update available . Download from your mobile ...
Hi matey i agree i have Live 8 and i love it, excellent product
Looking for turn by turn directions to replace my TomTom. It seems the only option is CoPilot Live?
Anyone seen a working version of iGO My way for Android? Used to have on WinMo and was pretty good. Their site shows lots of details but nowhere to buy (search on google for 'android iGO' and it's the first listing - I can't post URL's yet).
Navigon, Sygic are also options you might want to look at.
Currently using Sygic, but it does not have support for nordic characters æøå, so it makes address typing kinda stupid.
Also try NDrive -- I really liked it.
Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?
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Nice - more choices than I realised! Anyone have 1st hand experience of them in the UK, i.e. are the post codes up to date?
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I've played with CoPilot and NDrive -- both worked fine and I found postcodes that I needed. However, I only made one or two trips with each app.
....with GPRS Traffic updates?
Is it only Copilot that supports traffic updates over GPRS?
I find these absolutely necessary in the UK, though Copilot 7 on my THD handles rerouting very poorly indeed and puts me off the software. Is it improved in Copilot 8?
I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.
Try downloading the patched google maps and try out Google Maps Navigation before you actually buy any GPS software.
nubbin, please if you can give some reviews:
- Which one is the fastest for getting satellite lock?
- How about re-routing? Which one is better?
- Is there any GPS lag? The map direction is bit behind the actual situation
Thanks.
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I have Sygic Mobile 10 and Copilot 8 on my Deisre. Both work extremely well. Of the two, I refer Sygic, as the interface is much more TomTom -like, (i.e. virtually identical) and therefore extremely user-friendly.
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I'll review them as soon as I've had a chance to play properly - I only got my phone yesterday afternoon!
I'm just trying the GPS lock - I noticed this morning that it didn't get a fix at all on my drive to work, but from my desk at work it hooks up to GPS satellites almost immediately from "warm". and takes about 20 seconds from cold - much better than my Diamond2, and very quick!
The display is superb, and big enough to look like a dedicated SatNav. I haven't got a car cradle at the moment so I haven't been able to safely assess the accuracy and scrolling speed of the maps, but I imagine with a 1Ghz processor it will be very good. I'll let you know. Personally I prefer Sygic for the user interface.
I have tried almost all of the turn-by-turn navigation soft for Android and ended up with buying a cheap PNA with WinCE and installing iGO on it. iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought. If there aren’t very higher requirements (just navigate me from point A to B), almost all of them will do the work. But as soon as you want something specific, you’ll find out no one can match anything more than simple navigation, which Google soon will offer for free everywhere. Probably, I would choose CoPilot if it wasn’t so buggy and if ALK support wasn’t so awful. However, despite the fact I don't test it in a real situation (because of the lack of functionality), Navigon looks as quality made soft and I like its Android integration. It has 30 days trial and at least cost nothing trying it.
When will tom tom release an android version?
Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?
I quite like waze, the spoken instructions seem better than google navigation but perhaps that is because google isn't properly supported yet.
pilgrim_uk said:
Thanks all, good info so far - keep it coming! Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
Somone mentioned Google Maps but my understanding was that it didn't offer turn by turn directions in the UK? I was thinking that having the maps stored locally on the device would also help reduce amount of data sent over the air but this may be negligible?
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There's a patched version somewhere on XDA which allows navigation in the UK/Europe. Search for it, should be in the G1 forum.
iGO on Android
martoto said:
iGO for Android still is not official and cannot be bought.
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iGO on my THD is by far my favourite SatNav despite it not having Traffic Updates in the UK. I asked the question about iGO My way 8 for Android on PocketGPSWorld a few days ago. MaFt was able to provide an answer. Apparently Navngo (which is a Hungarian company) is only providing "white label" Android software to OEMs, thus Samsung can install it on the Galaxy Spica and probably where it's been lifted from to be made available to the community via illegitimate routes. Though there are other methods of getting software sold to Android owners, as proven by Sygic, PGPSW surmise that their chief reason for not making it available is that Google ban apps in Android Market from East European countries.
I wrote to Navngo but typically didn't get a response (I NEVER do!) and I also wrote to HTC about whether in the absence of their SatNav partner, TomTom, on the Android platform they'd consider providing iGO instead. I did get a timely response from them but it was utterly useless ...a stock reply saying they cannot provide support for this third part application ...DUH!! That wasn't the question I asked!!
Anyhow, reading comments about iGO My way 8 on the N1 it seems that, though it runs, the GUI has only been formatted for the Galaxy Spica's 320x480 resolution and so only appears in the top corner. My recollection is that this was the case on the THD too before the theme developers got hold of it and reformatted it. Not too long later Navngo released it for the THD looking exactly the same as the developers work.
...iGO still doesn't have traffic updates in the UK(*) though - and they wouldn't reply to the email I sent them about that either!
*iGO only accepts traffic updates via RDS-TMC (no GPRS) and RDS-TMC in the UK is an encrypted, OEM subscription only service thus it's only available to TomTom owners and OEM fit in-vehicle SatNavs, and isn't received by HTC's on-board FM radios either so requires an external receiver (i.e. RoyalTek). RDS-TMC is free and freely available in Europe. I daren't suggest to HTC that they provide support for it in future - I don't know what response I'll get!!
pilgrim_uk said:
Nubbin, let us know how you get on trying it out, Sygic looks pretty good.
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Had a bit of a drive with the phone stuck in the cup holder. Used Sygic and CoPilot and both worked extremely well. No visible lag to either, and very nice smooth scrolling of the maps. in fact the little blue pointer was spot on even at higher speeds. Clearly the fast CPU in the Desire works well in making the map refresh. The maps are very clear and easy to read. If anything it works better than a dedicated PNA such as a TomTom.
I really need a proper car cradle now. Any ideas, anyone?
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Thanks for that info! I really didn’t know that iGO does not support TMC in UK and I was regretting about recent PNA buy, because it has not a TMC receiver. Even I considered changing it for that.
Anyway, I have tried “leaked” version on my current device and since it has 320x480 screen there is not a problem with resolution. But actually I weren’t very impressed from iGO for Android. It requires a huge amount of free internal memory and with Qualcomm 512MHz it was very, very sluggish. In addition this is the “My Way” version, which is not so features rich as 8.3.x.
However, iGO for WinCE/WM remains the best Sat Nav solution in my opinion. It's much better than garmin, tom-tom, navigon, ndrive, sygic and all others, in terms of features, customization, speed, interface, reliability, speed cameras alerts and routing. I'm still hoping that they are going to improve the Android version as well, because I prefer not to carry different devices for every single task
Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?
chrism_scotland said:
Can I use my Co-Pilot Live 8 License from my old HD2 on a Android phone?
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Another user on the forum said he did exactly that; contact the company and they 'transferred' the license.