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SPV M600 Headphone Nightmare

Hello,
I’m new to this phone and forum, just getting my head round it. First problem I’m trying to tackle is the frankly awful headphones that come with the device.
Trying to find decent 2.5 mm headphones is not easy, I bought a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter but it’s a bit rubbish and loose and I’m sure it is changing it from stereo to mono. So after hours of research I’ve found some Sennheiser MM50’s. These have an integrated mic and also a 2.5mm 4 pole jack.
Now are these likely to work on my phone as I understand there are different ways that 2.5mm jacks can be wired up?
Thanks in advance.

I guess you will have to try it.
I use some Siedo headphones I got off eBay. They are not brilliant but are better than the supplied ones.
I can't find it right now but I came across this: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127646
It's an adpator - that is wired correctly for a HTC 2.5mm sockect and it has a built-in mic. You can plug any 3.5mm headphone jack into it. - Heck - I might get one myself!

Cheers, that doesnt look to bad. I notice that was compatible with the P900 which I think is compatible the Sennheiser MM50’s. So maybe they will be ok.
Do you know if the prophet has a standard 2.5mm 4 pole connector?

Yes, it's the usual 2.5mm 4 pole connector. There doesn't seem to be a "standard" way of wiring them though but the link I gave you should be fine.

It is NOT recommendable, for the Sennheiser MM50 headphones are made for Motorola devices/phones. HTC Prophet appears to have different wiring schema compared to Motorola and the headphones will play only from one channel - unfortunately.
I bought them recently (in spite of warnings on this forum) and was very disappointed to experience this effect. Fortunately however, I was able to give them back to the shop.

I use my old Sony Ericsson P800's headphones and the quality is waaay better. In fact the best non-professional headphones I've had till now were all Sonys.
It has to be Sony.

Have a look at Ebay. Search for SPV M600 and you may find a whole host of accessories. Or search specifically for:
Handsfree Remote/Adaptor for Orange SPV M600/M3000 PDA or
Oasis music adapter for qtek S200, SPV M600, Dopod 830
I have a similar item and it allows me to use any headphones or even connect it to my HiFi. It even has a PTT button and microphone to answer calls - imagine having a phone call routed through your home HiFi!

Hi!!!
Do you know if this one can work with prophet?
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverterwithmicrophone.php
I'm not sure...

i just soldered sony-Groove earpices to it, sounds way better!, modification was pretty easy

Can you post some pics of it?

Pepez said:
Hi!!!
Do you know if this one can work with prophet?
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverterwithmicrophone.php
I'm not sure...
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This one is not compatible with the Prophet. Prophet uses a 2.5mm jack while the newer HTC devices use the mini-USB connection for the headphones. The product in the link that you provided is meant for these newer devices. What you want is a 2.5mm (male) to 3.5mm (female) converter. You can find them at www.expansys.com.

Headphones for XDA Orbit

Does anyone know if I can get other headphones for my XDA Orbit? Because of the mini usb connector factor - I am thinking it may prove tricky or can we use the mini usb to 3.5mm jack I have heard mentionned ?

i have tried a Motorola V3 mini usb to 3.5mm adapter with my MDA Compact3, it didn't work!! sounds continued to play though phone, no sound though headphones.

This is what you need: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090
It converts the strange HTC 11-pin mini usb to a 3.5mm socket
Not in stock yet though.

is ther an adapter that functions simaler to the sony phones adapters, it goes from the port on the phone to a smapp 3.5 jack and microphone, then any earphones can be plugged in, so that you get to use ur own eaphones but can still use it to make and recieve calls

TheBrit said:
This is what you need: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090
It converts the strange HTC 11-pin mini usb to a 3.5mm socket
Not in stock yet though.
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Thanks TheBrit That jack looks like it would fix the issue of different headphones but I wonder would there be any issue with the FM radio. I was thinking could you do a magiver ,using the existing usb headphones but solder different headphones from the microphone part might also be the way forward if that makes sense!

yea, that's wat I was saying, have a headphone socket after the volume control and mic...
I imagin this would solve the problem of the radio aswell...

Well, Thanks for the ideas - went to Maplins and bought an inline socket - followed this tutorial and happy days !!
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
Definately worth doing !!! Cheers

http://www.absolutesurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66
Did it sucessfully! Sounds awesome.. I might wanna dump my stereo BT for this.. haha

Mini USB > 3.5 Jack?

Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?

you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike

Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!

in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike

Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!

Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike

I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!

You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich

Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!

Glad I could help

richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?

It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings

http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"

A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.

cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.

cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....

There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami

so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...

Adapter

USB adapter. I just love the Elf phone.The only things I am disappointed in is that I cannot plug in a set of external speakers. I cannot plug in to the charger whilst watching a film as I need the socket for the headphones...
Does anyone know of an adapter to enable me to do this please? I could get one made up from the diagram, however I would prefer to buy a custom made one.
Roz

maybe something like this?
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127184

The Elf has only a USB socket, nothing else... No phono or whatever they call it... For me this is the only fault with a superb little phone.
Thanks anyway.

dont know about the elf but all other newer htc devices have a special usb connector which also carry audio
if your device came with a headset then yours do too
as they device dont support usb host so it cant use any usb devices
nm just saw my link was wrong :S

http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=148544
this was the link i ment to give you

3Way USB adapter for HTC Touch/Elf
There is in fact a 3 way adapter available. I found it after a bit of a search. For some reason some of you seemed to think I was looking for a headset. The USB socket on the HTC Touch does not allow you to use anything else other than the supplied USB headset. however I want to use a set of Sony speakers for the sound to play MP3's and as I like to watch films in bed through ORB I like to be able to charge the phone at the same time. The process uses a lot of battery power.
The adapter I found has a stereo jack socket and 2 USB sockets the same as the one on the phone. So now I can plug in my head set and charger or charger and speakers in any form I choose.
If anyone else is interested here is a link where you can buy one for about £12.00 which includes postage: http://www.elitextreme.com/htcto31ad.html
The pictures show what I was talking about...
Roz

Try here for genuine HTC accessories through Expansys HTC store, then click on your phone type in the left-hand column to list all accessories available for it.
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc.aspx
Oooops! sorry Rudegar I missed your post for it already.

HTC 3 way adapter
No Expansis do not carry one. The link I left earlier does. I have mine now. It is exactly what I wanted. Cost me £12.95. Well worth it.

OK, so this is *almost* what I'm looking for:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147569
Does anyone know where to get an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter? One that *only* has a 3.5mm stereo output instead of having stereo+usb output?
Thanks.

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753

Rudegar said:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151753
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Thanks for the find, but will it work even if it's for the TyTN and not specifically for the Touch?
And is it stereo as opposed to just mono?

i would asume that htc dont change the wireing of their miniusb connector flavour with each device it would serve no purpos and would cost alot for htc
i would asume that if stereo is in the miniusb connector when used for normal wired headset it would be using that converter
as it would serve no purpos for the converter to add the eletronics it would require to just take 1 channel and spit it in 2 without lowering the the volume to ½ because of the impedanc

Chinese headset wiring different?

I bought a Chinese phone called a k-touch hornet in v9 and I've been using it for about a week now. Got cm10 loaded on it and apart from the crappy battery life I'm loving it. One particular issue is going to cause me some trouble in future tho, and I'm hoping someone will have a solution better than mine.
The problem is that the pinout for the 3.5mm headset jack appears to be wired differently than I
US connectors. When using it with a US headset, the audio is garbled because one of the channels is grounded, until you hold the mic's button, then it sounds normal. Same effect using the k-touch headset on a US phone.
My conclusion is that the ground pin has been moved to one of the audio channels, and the mic moved to the ground.
I could rewire an extension cable to put the conductors where they're supposed to be, but I'm hoping someone might know where I can buy a pre-made adapter or maybe there is a Longshot chance i can modify the firmware to use the proper pinout.
Any thoughts at all are welcome!