Finally i found the solution for the unsharp tf3d background. Just take a .jpg picture and scale it to 480x800. Then rename it to "HomeBackground.img". Disable touchflo and then copy the file to your windows folder. Enable touchflo and tada!
w00t??? trying it right now
tried it with my current background cant see any difference.. gonna test it with some other backgrounds later
the best results are in 440x640
mine's still the same... probably because i edited the manila file for BackgroundAllTabs?
Doesn't work for me too. The background changes, but it's in the same low quality as always.
mine's still the same...
same problem here!
Verry strang. I have a dutch Rom and i can even rename a picture from 2,55Mb 6104x4448 to homebackground and the picture shows fine but lose some hight en width.
But the thing is, you can get more pixels than the screen has.
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Another thing i just realised, i downloaded the wrong format in te wallpaper thread. I downloaded the thumbnails and not the picture itself. So my screen was always unsharpen with this thumbnail.
Is there no way to make the background as clear as when you preview it in photos and videos? I tried 480x800, 480x640, 440x640...nothing works.
nope 440x640 has no strech issues, but i think quality degradations depends on tflo3d itself
Anyone have the solution?
anyone solution?
It would be great to have full quality pic as background. The quality when looking the same picture on gallery is waaaay much better..
This is so weird that HTC would do this, they make a skin program that is supossed to be better than the WM standard today, and it is in my opinion, and give us the option to have our own background and make it so the background looks crap, why why why.
I would love the answer to this as well.
seal said:
and give us the option to have our own background and make it so the background looks crap, why why why..
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'Cos touchflo was originally developed for qvga (320x240) devices and was hastily ported to higher res phones.
In other words,
... a lash-up!
actually best quality 4bckg remain apply mun-rus's cab. See link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479112
The pro of this method is same high quality of jpeg file used for home tab.
Minus are the applied modify to 1c68...manila. For new analog clocks (ex. Nisse's clocks) it was modify also same 1c68...manila.
So it dipends of u goal....
If u like to have an high quality 4bckg, then install mun_rus cab, but not install any analog clocks, because 1c68...manila is not compatible for analog clocks.
Otherwise if u don't care of any quality bckg, then u can install any analog clocks.
Thanks but we're talking about the home background's quality, not about the quality of other TF3D tab's backgrounds.
Home background's quality is poor : even an excellent jpeg in high reolsution becomes unsharp as a TF3D home's wallpaper like it was already said, that's the point
it looks like they take tf3d from diamond and put in to hd even the square's in the original background are not till bottom if you install diamond theme it will be looks the same like original theme
this is SAD !!
phone make in rush ???
Why XDA's programmator not resolve this problem?
Related
could we do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IMtkNSjuhQ&feature=related
Definitely would be awesome!
Look here for possible needed files
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
This is so cool! : ).
I can't wait to see it on my phone.
Can "we"? Yes, all the shadow glamour is powered by ( and probably funded 6.1) the funky new silverlight tech that powers Chome.
But do we want nice large photoes and album covers on our home screen? Do we want my fave loading with Flash-like slowness? Some yes, some, not so much...
There is a *load of possibilty in this .1 release, beyond what we've seen so far. SmartPhone Cube? Excalibur-exclusive UI functionality exploiting the unique hardware I assume is only days away, if everyone is as rapid-fire as you, Rick.
Replace * with your favorite word
I think, the people must have a choice, what to install and what is important - performance or effects. This is personal choice, and if there are many variants, technologies, etc, the people will be happy.
You see what happen when sliding panel come - everyone like it! .
The interface on the Juno... which is what you're seeing that in video... IS Chome. It's even the same CLSID on the home screen's .xml... the same GUID's... etc I'm thinking the .dll's are different to make it "special" for the TMobile Shadow (the HTC Juno).
I thought it was just a matter of formatting, like changing the .cpr file or something. I don't think it is so though... as I've searched the file system on a TMobile Shadow phone and couldnt find any .cpr files whatsoever...
All CHome interface in bronze.dll (i think so...)
yep.. true.
this cmhomeaddon plugin is only for portrait screen,and only for neo display style(another display style of chome)
Oh, sh....
Neo have weather plugin, and current CHome - no
Any recommendations for what to pick apart and repack bronze.dll with? ResHack isn't giving me anything too friendly.
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Any recommendations for what to pick apart and repack bronze.dll with? ResHack isn't giving me anything too friendly.
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use this PE Explorer
PE is much friendlier! Thanks for the tip!
When I replace the images, the file is nearly 4x larger. When I replace bronzeres on the phone it kills Chome-based screens. Is there something I have to do to force a file-size match, or sign it, or something?
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PE is much friendlier! Thanks for the tip!
When I replace the images, the file is nearly 4x larger. When I replace bronzeres on the phone it kills Chome-based screens. Is there something I have to do to force a file-size match, or sign it, or something?
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unsign the dll first then once done resign
i think it would be real neat to have a shadow interface on the dash it would make the excaliburs unique and for people in the barbershop with the same phone as me can envy lol
It works, it works! And boy, does this quick test version look like crap--- but it works, so I think I will try again, but with feeling now. Woo hoo hoo...
So, how shall we get this working on the same phone with an existing bronzesres.dll? I notice that thehome.xml calls only 2 plugins, iconbar and "Bronze". Anyone know how to dupe Bronze, and have it call the new dll?
Off to Google I go...
Ok, it's closer, and much stronger than the first experiment. In fact, the black is too strong. Back to the 'shop to tweak it again...
UPDATE: Closer still... (#6 & #7)
Got it
Ok, here it is, a nice, dark, but not too dark Sliding Panel set. At this point, it will REPLACE your regular sliding panel's soft translucent white bubble look.
Although a simple script to unload any current Chome-based homescreen and swap the dll's is probably trivial for someone to write (hint, hint), it is not for me.
Directions:
Be running WM6.1, and have Sliding Panel (Chome) working.
Switch to any homescreen that does not use Sliding Panel.
Backup your existing bronzeres.dll
Overwrite with the BrightNight version.
Load a Sliding Panel style homescreen. For best results, use black text and a bright and light background, or a medium text and a dark background for a low output "night mode". Hence the name.
CAUTION: This .dll is experimental. Use at your own risk. Look both ways when crossing the street. Floss. For those of you who didnt follow directions, the original bronzeres.dll is available earlier in this thread. It is in use and cannot be overwritten while chome is running.
UPDATE: Added some bright wallpapers, since they are hard to find around here. © someone else. If you need directions on what to do with them, just skip this whole topic.
That's tight! Maybe we can "join efforts" and make the top of the rectangle darker also, like I did in a previous thread around here. Oh... what do I do with those backgrounds ?!
send me the pic. I was toying around with making a whole new image, if I ever get a day off, too.
As promised here's what I was able to come up with for a WM7 look theme, for our beloved Sliding Panels
If you want this look, install the .cab below. If you don't like it, uninstall the cab. Simple as that.
Any ideas for improvement are, of course, welcome!
p.s. The cab should prompt you to reboot after it installs. Please reboot to see the changes.
p.s.s Cab updated to include the prettier time icon shown in the screenshots.
Uploaded variations to the defaut cpanels. A light blue and a purple version. Install using the .cabs below and your panels will change colors after a reboot
CAB updated for better handling of appointments with a lot of text.
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All I can say is wow what a beautiful look for the sliding panels. I got to this thread from your post in a thread in the Vox forum. Please make a Landscape/Portraite switching version for the Vox.
Roland
Wow, I like it. I hope you can make this portrait as well
.......................nice
I really like the sides, very very clean and sharp, I would use if they were clear panels.
also..
cant get my clock to look like yours, its a generic white clock.
I have red X for Myfaves icon-I dont know what happened but it is not there when I removed WM7 setting either- damn
my task bar looks like it always has not like yours
maybe ill reload it.
Sharp looking, it's even a hair better than some of what I've seen of WM7, in the drop shadows. Think it will find a way into Ricky's v.2x?
Oh sorry. Didn't realize not everybody has my custom clock icon in the windows directory. DOH! I will update the cab to include that .png in a few minutes.
I COULD make the panels clear. I was thinking of making them a little more "airy" and having a bolder backdrop effect, to simulate the effect of the panel gliding over the background.
Didnt have enough room to upload the centered cabs in the main post, so here they are. These will change the clock panel slightly, to center the operator name and the wifi networks, on the screen. Enjoy.
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Oh sorry. Didn't realize not everybody has my custom clock icon in the windows directory. DOH! I will update the cab to include that .png in a few minutes.
I COULD make the panels clear. I was thinking of making them a little more "airy" and having a bolder backdrop effect, to simulate the effect of the panel gliding over the background.
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I like clear so I can see my background, but your ideas sound cool
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Oh sorry. Didn't realize not everybody has my custom clock icon in the windows directory. DOH! I will update the cab to include that .png in a few minutes.
I COULD make the panels clear. I was thinking of making them a little more "airy" and having a bolder backdrop effect, to simulate the effect of the panel gliding over the background.
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Please do a version with clear panels and on with the blue panels that works on multi orientation phones like the Vox and Wings.
Roland
How to uninstall?
Uninstall the cab ?
I really like this .cab. It looks great on my phone. Thanks for your time.
The only thing I dont like is the clock face looks blurry on my phone. Do you know wherr I can find a better pic?
Again. Thanks for posting this..
I updated the cab in the first post to install the time icon from the screenshots. Please redownload and reinstall Thanks.
Sweet...thanks
is the background wallpaper available?
Sure... why not
Couldn't attach it directly as it's bigger than 20k, so I zipped it.
ack...shadow or this....ACK!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRGGHHHH ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
oh wait. do u know of any memory loss on this theme? cuz my regular sliding panels, i get noticeable memory loss. like when i reboot, i get like 20mb of free memory right, but maybe few hours later, 15mb free. and it would go down more during 2 or 3 days then i have to reboot to get it back up.
what u think? any1?
This is CHome with a different look... it's not really a theme. It's just Chome with a different look. So whatever "problems" you had with Chome, you'll have with this look as well. I reboot my phone at least once a day, you don't ?! And who cares if you go down to 15 megs, as long as you're not down to like 1-2.. you're fine.
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This is CHome with a different look... it's not really a theme. It's just Chome with a different look. So whatever "problems" you had with Chome, you'll have with this look as well. I reboot my phone at least once a day, you don't ?! And who cares if you go down to 15 megs, as long as you're not down to like 1-2.. you're fine.
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well, to be able to to play Nintendo and SEGA, i need at least 9-10mb free memory or it'll lag too bad or it wont play at all. and no, i dont reboot once a day. i try to reboot once a week or less.
thanks its so much better than green.
hi,
i wanted to create my own background-theme, and this thread was very helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3062019&postcount=54
(you need the Background4AllTabs "5c9aa261_manila" & "4a087e41_manila" from NisseDILLIGAF)
the problem was, i had a circle in the picture, and every time it was stretched or squashed, wrong aspect ratio, not fitting well. so i did a little research myself - pixelcounting fun.
conclusion:
1. crop your original-pic (maybe 800x480) to 700x480 (the real background size, 50 px from the top and 50 px from bottom)
2. create an new empty 512x512 file
3. resize your 700x480-pic to 512x460, squash squash squash (!)
4. paste it in the empty 512x512 on the left side(!) leaving an empty unused bar of 52px on the right side
5. do all steps from the link above to convert it for manila
nothing stretched or squashed anymore. full circles.
FINAL note:
this method works only for NisseDILLIGAF's *5c9aa261_manila* that came from the diamond. it works, but it also has the blackhole problem.
bbonzz's method (look below) works for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3068310&postcount=60 (blackhole solution).
both have no problems with nocurtains-mod. baah, too much confusion about the manila files...
Actually the background is 480x636 (image 1), because of the top curtain hole in background4alltabs.
So, to keep the aspect ratio, what you have to do is more simple:
1) cut you 480x800 (image 2) to 480x636 (image 3) keeping 52 px from bottom (bottom bar) and 112 from top (top bar+top curtain)
2) stretch to 460x512 (image 4)
3) add a 52px transparent (or whatever: black, white... It will be invisible anyway) canvas to the right (image 5)
voilà, you have a pic for Manila Editor, and once installed on Blackstone, Manila will resize it back to the original 480x636, without distortion and without shifting a single pixel. You can verify this by using the original 480x800 as background for the home tab (image 1): switching tabs, you'll notice the image is still the same: no movements, no distortions.
do you guys have a problem with a black hole at the top of the background in sound settings on the settings tab ?
check this!
hi bbonzz,
i tried your version and it does not match. check the attachment.
manila stretched the logo and it ended up as an egg.
the best way is to compare the original (800x480) as homescreen-background against the manila version background in the other tabs. that was the game i was playing. after several try&errors i found it. the mapping-coordinates for the manila-background in my tf3d background4alltabs is 700x480. 50px less reserved for the top-taskbar and 50px less reserved for the softbutton-bar at the bottom.
manila stretches the left space of the 512x512 texture (512x460) to 700x480 perfectly and the aspect ratio of the original is back.
by the way, the black hole is still a problem, but doesn't bother me.
maybe it depends on which 5b9aa261 are you using: on my HD (with the "corrected and not the original 5b9aa261), using the same try&error way, i have the perfect fit with the 480x636 thing, as you see in the screenshot. Later i'll try with your attachment
ok, i forgot to mention that "nocurtains" is installed on my hd. maybe thats the reason why you got 636 px instead of 700 px.
4a087e41_manila
Hi sir AlecDelorean and other member can you make me a 4a087e41_manila with my attach file, thanks advanced...
please test this
hi p_elmenzo,
do yo have the 2 files from background4alltabs already installed?
if yes, here you go. don't forget to backup you original manila files.
don't blame me if something goes wrong
and please compare your original pic as background for the homescreen against the new background in the other tabs. if anything moves, or looking stretched, send me a screenshot.
4a087e41_manila
Thank you very much AlecDelorean...
Grazie Mille AlecDelorean...
4a087e41_manila
Hi, again AlecDelorean i have a small problem when i change my tab the background image has change maybe the pixel of the image.
i know, its a problem of the image-compression/conversion in manila-editor. when i have time, i add a little grain in photoshop to trick the compression-algorithm.
4a087e41_manila
Ok Thanks a lot...
here you go again
ok, did some tests. i don't know much about the converting process of the manila editor, but it seems it reduces a lot of bandwidth of the colorspace combined with very rude compression. so by example - gradients loose a lot of quality, instead of other more colorful pictures where the difference of every neighbor pixel is higher. maybe its the 3d-texture method htc is using, they try to save as much memory as they can. an interesting thing to notice (compare your screenshots with the original pic), there is an converting-process included in tf3d by itself, but only for the homescreen, when you choose an own picture for the homescreen background - tf3d crops it, adds grain and compression.
enable your background of the homescreen back to standard, because the manila-background is the background4alltabs now and you can't see the difference anymore if you switch from homescreen-tab to the others.
4a087e41_manila
Hi, AlecDelorean do you have the original file of 4a087e41_manila and 5c9aa261_manila? thanks a lot.
haha
tired of messing around with the backgrounds?
you need only one. 4a087e41_manila is a new image file for background4alltabs, 5c9aa261_manila is a script that was changed.
Hey AlecDelorean, can you do this for me as well.. Thanks!
I have just one question...
HOW do i get rid of the black curtain on top of the screen??
please please please say me how!!!
In nearest future we wont use this method. A real background for all pages done.
mun_rus said:
In nearest future we wont use this method. A real background for all pages done.
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Our saviour is back! Hope your feeling well now..
@ ArchonX
ArchonX said:
I have just one question...
HOW do i get rid of the black curtain on top of the screen??
please please please say me how!!!
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hey ArchonX,
this is the version of NoCurtains that is working for me:
Hey
wanted to know if the WM6.5 allows you to use full res and quality wallpaper?
not like on the regular HD wallpaper that shows only 512X512...
tnx =]
WM 6.5 allows you to use full screen images and they are crystal clear.
liav12 said:
Hey
wanted to know if the WM6.5 allows you to use full res and quality wallpaper?
not like on the regular HD wallpaper that shows only 512X512...
tnx =]
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It's not WinMo that's causing the problem with Touch HD background wallpapers, it's Touch Flo 3D.
So, if you would disable TF3D you could probably get nice quality with WinMo 6.1.
I have been digging around this issue and I do have a solution to get full resolution wallpapers with TF3D. Unfortunately, this process now requires a lot of messing around with Manila files, so it might not be for everyone. But I'm thinking about publishing my custom Manila wallpaper files, which basically require simply copy+paste into Windows directory and then restarting TF3D.
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It's not WinMo that's causing the problem with Touch HD background wallpapers, it's Touch Flo 3D.
So, if you would disable TF3D you could probably get nice quality with WinMo 6.1.
I have been digging around this issue and I do have a solution to get full resolution wallpapers with TF3D. Unfortunately, this process now requires a lot of messing around with Manila files, so it might not be for everyone. But I'm thinking about publishing my custom Manila wallpaper files, which basically require simply copy+paste into Windows directory and then restarting TF3D.
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That would be great.
I hate how the quality is degraded once you set the Wallpaper.
There is so much difference in quality when viewing a picture in "albums" as opposed to the home screen wallpaper.
I wonder why TF3D lowers the resolution on the home screen.
Please publish a solution. thanks
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That would be great.
I hate how the quality is degraded once you set the Wallpaper.
There is so much difference in quality when viewing a picture in "albums" as opposed to the home screen wallpaper.
I wonder why TF3D lowers the resolution on the home screen.
Please publish a solution. thanks
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I actually started a thread in General > Dev and Hacking about this very issue. It didn't get a lot of attention from people with Touch HD's, but none the less, I managed to get down to the bottom of the mysterious TF3D behavior and I can see that the info from that thread got to the people working on visual enhancements for Touch HD.
Basically, it's insanely stupid solution some lazy HTC programmer implemented.
Imagine that TF3D can display images that have maximum size of 512x512. Now imagine you have screen size that's 480x696 pixels (this is how big the wallpapers are). See the problem? The maximum image you can use is 184 pixels short to cover the whole screen.
And then you get a genius idea to use two 512x512 images to cover the screen area and allow full resolution wallpapers to be used. So you take the default HTC wallpaper, split it in two parts, align them perfectly on the screen so it looks as if they're one image - and problem solved!
Right?
Well, not quite. Yes, it will work for default background image, but what about custom wallpapers? Well, they were too lazy to make an automatized script that would split the images in two and align them on the screen.
Instead, they opt for a more convenient solution in form of taking custom wallpapers, shrinking them down into a single 512x512 box and then stretching this downsampled image back to 480x696 area.
And that's whats causing all these problems.
If you want a temporary solution, create 512x512 image - I bet it will look sharper then your 480x800 image.
A true solution is to cheat TF3D and import manually FOUR separate images that together form portrait and landscape wallpapers.
This can be done, and I will explain it in a separate post here when I get some free time. At the moment I'm too busy with FingerKeyboard
Wow, Rozenthal! That would be very interesting! It´s almost a dream I have: to see a quite sharp image on my TF3D Home screen.
A lot of people would be very glad with you if you teach us how to do this.
Thanks a lot in advance
It's not a dream I have it on my screen now...
The problem is in the fact that changing skins cannot be done through Settings tab. It requires editing the appropriate Manila files by using a Manila graphic editor on your PC. Also, this is something that will require at least moderate knowledge of some good graphic editing software (read: Photoshop), because you need to manually prepare split png files for portrait and landscape.
Then you take these files, load them into Manila files, compress them into a special TF3D graphic format, copy them to Windows directory overwriting the old files, turn off TF3D and then pick "Use default wallpaper" in your Settings / Wallpaper tab.
So, it's major pain in the a$$, and it's not something you would be doing on the road, or every day. But, as I said - it CAN be done.
The way I see it, we could probably get some users here to team up, learn the procedure and then simply offer zip-ed Manila files that other people can download and copy into Windows folder. That part is easy, it can be done by anyone. Preparing the wallpapers, however, isn't that simple.
Anyway, I will try to make a tutorial on how to do all this tomorrow.
In the mean time, you can check the thread I mentioned earlier. Altough, be warned that some of the final conclusion posts from that thread were lost during last sunday hack attack on XDA.
Im running mANILLA 2.5.19211619.0 im trying to get my background to change on all the tabs. None of the cabs are working, the only one ive gotten to work adds a huge black space at the bottom of the pic it adds, and once its done I cant change that pic. I want to add a custom picture to it and be done with it, where is the original pic stored so i can replace it?
In \Windows - they're called stwater_480_800 (portrait) and stwater_808_480 (landscape).
Have you tried HD Wall though? You can create a cab file with any picture you want, it skins the top and bottom bars and is bg4all, plus it's easily uninstallable.
Hmm
Those files do contain the background I wanted, But its still showing the weird light blur circle background instead. Changing that file does nothing.
Are you using a miri rom? The background has concentric circles in almost a low res picture? You can enhance the quality of the picture by installing the neo drivers
Again, the easiest way to get bg4all in high res is to use HD Wall.
Yup
Exactly Miri's Rom damn, your good. Ok, was searching for HD Wall, Thanks for the link. I will try HD Wall and report back.
All is great only problem is Weather Tab does not change. Its a completely different background, even from before.
Sorry about that, It was calendar And i see why its different, I was in day to day view. Thanks again appreciate it! Now the background Miri uses for start menu is the background for TFlo 3d. Thanks again!
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Exactly Miri's Rom damn, your good. Ok, was searching for HD Wall, Thanks for the link. I will try HD Wall and report back.
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Just lots of practice and lots of flashing of many different roms
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All is great only problem is Weather Tab does not change. Its a completely different background, even from before.
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Strange, miri must have done some coding to the weather tab to use different backgrounds. Sorry, no suggestions on that one. Perhaps try to ask in the miri thread.
EDIT: Ok, I see you were on the Calendar tab. the calendar tab on many roms has a grey backing, supposedly to make ti easier to read.
Yeah
All is good now!, Originally used Titanium but got tired of so much swiping to move around, Now to find a 20 programs menu so i can have 5 on the home screen, found a cab earlier but it messed up the wall paper
Calendar transparency courtesy of millski. Unzip the attached file and copy the files to \Windows using Total Commander and overwrite the originals (after taking a backup of course just in case it doesn't work).
Id hate to open a new thread for this so ill post it here. I've almost got my home screen how i like it, my problem now is Notifications do not show on anything except the top start bar im on build 28011, Miri's test Rom. Im trying to add notification icons above my programs like this:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4192/ultimate8.jpg
I would prefer it if the bubbles showed on the home tabs/slider bar in there appropriate icon. but anyhelp is appreciate btw im on manilla 2.5
I have gotten the Text & Email bubbles working, now im working on the Call History / Missed Calls shouldnt they show under contacts? just like the text one does.
I see you did open a new one after all though
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Calendar transparency courtesy of millski. Unzip the attached file and copy the files to \Windows using Total Commander and overwrite the originals (after taking a backup of course just in case it doesn't work).
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work only in portrait mode, no landscape :-( any way to solve?