Hi
I am totaly new in this line of hardware, i just received an qtek 2020i to try if i like pda.
but this thing is running on win ce2003
can i upgrade this PDA to wm 5 or wm6, and if it's possible how dies it work?
and what do i need?
Hi,
Congratulations for Qtek 2020i. It is one of the best PDAs available, hardware-wise.
However, I am afraid that there is no upgrade to WM 5 or 6 available...
Some say that there never will be...
Head off for the Alpine forum, for more details.
Regards,
P.
pdc4 said:
Hi,
Head off for the Alpine forum, for more details.
Regards,
P.
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what is the alpine forum?
and why is it so good while it cant be used voor wm5 or 6, it's a rather old PDA I geuss and i have to soft reset quit often.
i read in some forums it should be possible to upgrade using w, 5 from another system like an htc.
and another question what kind of software could be used on it?
cause after every reset i've to insert my appointments again
Here, at xda-developers, we have several generic sub-forums (like Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking, where we are currently posting) and other sub-forums, model specific, where the model is discussed in detail.
Alpine is the internal HTC codename of the Qtek 2020i. And, yes, here we have model specific sub-forums for the Alpine/Qtek 2020i. Here is the link to them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=249
Qtek 2020i, despite the 2003SE that it was shipped with, has very good hardware details (fast 520Mhz CPU, 128 RAM, Wi-Fi, large screen...) that might make it a good solution for someone who is not dependent on the latest operating systems... Even today, is is still competitive, which is rather interesting.
Also, keep in mind that many great software still run in 2003(SE). For instance, Resco Explorer, Tomtom6, SK tools, most of SPB software... etc.
The Alpine could never be upgraded to WM5 because no WM5 OS drivers for the CPU and other details were ever released or found... There are several threads in the Alpine sub forums about this.
If you have issues with yours, like spontaneous (soft) resets there are several possible causes, like depleted (back-up) battery, conflicting software, etc. Use a good back-up software, like SPB backup, and read a lot in the Alpine forums.
Regards,
P.
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Folks,
Sorry if this is real basic stuff, but hey we all gotta start somewhere!!
Work is buying me a O2 Orbit for some development (actually buying 2) and I have just a handful of questions that I'd really appreciate an answer.
1) Is The Artemis 3300 the same name for the 02 Orbit? I'm 99.9% it is, but some big-headed person I work with is causing all sorts of grief saying the phone must be a genuine Artemis 3300 and the Orbit is a cut down version. True or false?
2) Is the GPS on it Magellan / Garmin compliant?
3) OK, touchy one this, I'm hearing great reports about Crossbow and want to know if 'flashing' the WM5 ROM that comes with the O2 Orbit is legal or not (don't worry, I'm not clean cut, just don't want to cause any problems with the boss!). And likewise, if I mess up the installation, is it easy to revert back to WM5?
In a nutshell, we've a dozon or so bespoke programs for SmartPhones, all developed on a SPV M3000. These SPV's are getting old now, cracked, chipped, damaged and the O2 Orbit looks perfect (especially as we're just doing GPS stuff, hence why I ask if it's Magellan / Garmin compliant).
Whilst WM5 is still widespread, naturally it would be an advantage to use the latest technology and to ensure compatibility (have one Orbit running WM5 and the other running WM6), but obviously need some roll-back if things go wrong.
Would really appreciate some feedback before I make a purchase.
Cheers.
Folks,
Sorry if this is real basic stuff, but hey we all gotta start somewhere!!
Work is buying me a O2 Orbit for some development (actually buying 2) and I have just a handful of questions that I'd really appreciate an answer.
1) Is The Artemis 3300 the same name for the 02 Orbit? I'm 99.9% it is, but some big-headed person I work with is causing all sorts of grief saying the phone must be a genuine Artemis 3300 and the Orbit is a cut down version. True or false?
No, the orbit is not a cut down version
2) Is the GPS on it Magellan / Garmin compliant?
Its a std Pocket PC serial emulated GPS feed. All pocket PC software that works with WM5 would work.
3) OK, touchy one this, I'm hearing great reports about Crossbow and want to know if 'flashing' the WM5 ROM that comes with the O2 Orbit is legal or not (don't worry, I'm not clean cut, just don't want to cause any problems with the boss!). And likewise, if I mess up the installation, is it easy to revert back to WM5?
O2 has not released an updated ROM for the Orbit, let alone an update to WM6 (crossbow). It is very unusual for providers to provide an update to a major version of Windows on a current model, so would assume this won't happen. Flashing an WM device with an unlicensed OS is technicaly not legal. In terms of reverting back, it is easy unless you have screwed the boot rom, in which case you have a new brick
In a nutshell, we've a dozon or so bespoke programs for SmartPhones, all developed on a SPV M3000. These SPV's are getting old now, cracked, chipped, damaged and the O2 Orbit looks perfect (especially as we're just doing GPS stuff, hence why I ask if it's Magellan / Garmin compliant).
There are two types of Pocket PC with phone functionality. Those that use the OMAP chipset, and those that use the Samsung/Intel chipset. The OMAP ones normally have more reliable phone sides (although this is changing with the latest Samsungs and Intels) but far slower for running applications (although, again, this is changing with the latest OMAP chipsets). The Orbit is an OMAP chipset, and although works well as a phone and GPS device, you should check whether any custom software runs at satisfactory speed.
Whilst WM5 is still widespread, naturally it would be an advantage to use the latest technology and to ensure compatibility (have one Orbit running WM5 and the other running WM6), but obviously need some roll-back if things go wrong.
Would really appreciate some feedback before I make a purchase.
Cheers
Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
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Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
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helps to know what make and model of phone you have, look on the main index page for your phone and look there, only certain pones can be upraded and the info you want is there.
T-mobile pocket pc 2003
thats not enough it pretty much the name of every windows mobile phone tmobile ever released and roms are unique for each model
they add naming like
mda or mdaII or mdaIII ....
Pardon my ignorance.
Is there a wm2002 phone? What is HP Jornada, wm2002?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jornada
and yes wallaby orginaly came with pocketpc 2002
about early windows CE phones then this was the first i saw
http://www.planetomni.com/GSM_SEMN_sx45_DTL.shtml
running not pocketpc but pure windows CE 3
I guess it would be the HTC wallaby. It looks exactly like that but it says "T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition" on it.
I can't really find much on it so I wasn't sure which phone it was.
http://www.romkitchen.de/
Ok I was looking over the rom kitchen site at all the informationprovided and reading the manuals and what not and i still don't understand what i'm reading.Well I understand it but i don't want to ruin my phoneso does anyone know of a simple way of explaining what to do with this stuff to us who are just getting started out? Your time and patience are appreciated.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen
or
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
interested in learning more as well
Hi all:
Although I am not a developer, I have found this a great resource for info beyond other forums.
Like ziggy88, I went to the ROM KITCHEN and took a look.
I am using a Hitachi G1000 WM 2002 device on Sprint.
This last week I have found an abundance of info on this device and just before was was contemplating upgrading. With the new info I have found, I am going to hold off.
So, it is an Intel PXA255 XScale 400mhz processor.
Is that enough info to get started with getting a link to look into the posibility of upgrading the OS?
Thanks, Jay
roms are uniqe to a device and cant be used on other devices then the model it was made for 2 HTC devices cant even use the same rom if they are not the same model
not sure about your Hitachi but some of the pda's from Hitachi dident even have a flash rom but a hardcoded rom which can never be upgraded
i currently have a Wizard, and im happy with it, but i always had my eye on the motorla mpx 300 , because its such a rare phone, problem is its running PPC 2003 2nd edition, and i wish if someone COOKED or perhaps knows a place that offers one? its crucial, before i invest money into buying the phone
Is it still possibly to flash WM5 on MPX300? THanks!
I would be interested in this as well
Yes, I really like the design and function of MPX300 and still using it right now, even there's so many WM5/WM6 devices in the market now. Just one more step if someone can upgrade the MPX300 to run WM5, either software or hardware upgrade would made this phone prefect for me.
If I could find a Wm6 upgrade for this phone, I would start hunting one down today. That would be cool..... Never saw the phone before this post, very cool
wm5 anybody?
reviving this old thread...
i've heard of rumors, but never actually seen a wm5 for the little...
???
I found a post from someone that has gotten wm5 on the mpx300
Yahoo Id: coockie_monster26
AIM: CooCkieXP
Seems like a reputable source....
Find his post here:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=265391&highlight=mpx300
I'm trying to contact him for tips...
He replied the post in 2006, that's 2 years ago. Not sure if he still using MPX300. However, he is still an active member there. Hope he still have the WM5 files for MPX300.
hello all.
But Device like mpx300 have 32mb Ram so WM6 or later is not recomendet for this device its something like put wm6.1 to MPX200 working but very slow ;(
chears
However.... we just need of wm5.... that's much bettere than 2003se.
Hello,
First I would like to say that you guys are doing great work.
I have an iPaq h6325 which if you are familiar with the model, has an issue with losing all your data when the battery in drained or removed. This problem may or may not be resolved with software -- to date.. no fix has EVER been made, and HP deny's this as an issue -- it's by design!! The same thing goes for the extremely low volume for sound direct from the handset.
Anyway, my question for you is that I have noticed cooked copies for various models of iPaqs, including 6.1 for the h2000 series. What is necessary for you to make a copy of 6.1 for my model of iPaq. I am really sick of looking at Windows CE 2003, on my pure touch device when it can do just as much as an iPhone if using Windows CE 6.1 (hardware wise).
Please help.
Thank you.
.... anyone please ?
p.s.
I modded my ipaq 6325 so it now reads as a 6365 ... if that helps....
i can't believe this topic is so dead....
this is one of the best pieces of hardware they have.. even better than a lot of the newer garbage with tiny screens.... the biggest downfall is something which is fixed using a newer OS ... aka ... Windows Mobile 6 ... stores the information so it NEVER gets lost.. even if the battery dies... (which is retarded.... at this moment... I hate the lazy engineers at HP!!!... I will never buy another one cuz their support stinks... and they are so happy to replace the defective one with another one, just as defective!!!)
gaaaaaaaarrrh.... why couldn't everything go the way of the Vic 20!! .. instant OS... stable!!... and fast!!!
not to sound impatient, but day 3 now, and still no response to my post ?
Hi All
My deepest apologies if I didn't find the threads that this topic may have been covered on, but ideally I wanted to know if any ROM updates are available for an iPAQ 5550 (Pocket PC 2003 Version 4.20.1081 - Build 13100) such as Windows Mobile 5 or 6. I've done investigation for nearly half a day and the news seems bad, basically I'm stuck with this CE but was hoping if the community has already tried this.
Is there any hope for me?
EDIT: For some reason I got stuck on the series, not the model, so I found more threads, doing more research thanks!