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Firstly I am not having a go at any of the ROM creators here - just trying to understand what is going on with my device.
I have O2 Orbit, have used O2-WM5, B&B and now O2-WM6. Using Navigon 6.2 installed on SD card.
I am route planning for holidays and have a route that is a 3 hour route with 1 waypoint. I created this route when running O2-WM5. With B&B i cannot get the saved route to load, and often I will get a memory issue and be asked to close other apps (normally phone is the only other open). Tried using overlocker in case it was processor issue - no joy.
I reverted to O2 - WM5 and it works, upgraded to O2-WM6 it works. What is the difference with the B&B Rom? Is this related to Ext-ROM or lack of? Do all the HTC-home and theme take too much memory?
Thoughts and advise appreciated - and if there is a nice looking WM6 ROM that someone can recommend I would appreciate a link!!
emul
Thoughts about Navigon on Mobiles
Hi!
I am facing the same problems (Navigon 6.1 on an O2MiniS, WM5). Only the simplest functions work -- as long as nothing else is done with the phone.
I have not had a chance to try this out, but this is advice I got:
a) use a faster (mini)sd-card. Amongst others, Transcend sells fast cards. Navigon does not advice doing this, but tells me I can try.
b) remove all superfluous maps from the card.
c) install the program so it runs from your mobile -- not from the card.
Let us know how you are faring!
Bob
Okay so this may be a Navigon issue rather than WM5 / WM6 / B&B ROM. I am going to try tomorrow to flash a clean rom, install no programs nor synch with laptop and see what happens then.
Currently with O2-WM6, synched (500 contacts / 100 email) the route planning "works" after a 60 sec delay before completing calcs from point a to b and then again from b to c..!!
Will let you know how it goes.
Thanks
Eoin
Hello,
i have the same Problem. At all cooked ROM with more RAM MN6 are not Display the Route and crash. With orginal ROM and ROM with low RAM MN6 perfekt work.
Is there already a solution?
heross
I have never been able to resolve it. As a workaround I now use Hibernate before MN6 which seems to clear enough memory. If you find any answers let me know.
Eoin
heross said:
Hello,
i have the same Problem. At all cooked ROM with more RAM MN6 are not Display the Route and crash. With orginal ROM and ROM with low RAM MN6 perfekt work.
Is there already a solution?
heross
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I've been playing with various satnavs over the weekend, all on the standard Dopod WM6 ROm... the following all worked, using UK maps, and planned a route from Suffolk to Lancashire (250 miles):
TomTom 6.02 and 6.03
Navigon MN6
Route66
iGo MyWay
My thoughts on them are as follows:
Navigon: Too slow, graphics unclear, not enough features
iGo: Not bad, but still junt missing a few bits
Route66: A serious contender, but you cant view your route easily or manually modify it or avoid areas. Speed Camera warnings are absolutely brilliant though, and performance is fast.
TomTom: Definitely the best overall - if it had free traffic and speed cam implemetation lice Route66, it would be a complete no brainer. As it is, the ability to avoid sections of routes etc and subscribable traffic if needed make it my personal preference.
If you need info on how to get hold of TomTom, PM me!
try that one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316058&highlight=donothing.zip
it worked for me.
good luck
THX,
cleaninstall of MN6.0-> deinstall->update to MN6.2->install MN6.2 have solve the Problem.
MEMORY error is definitly a ROM version problem. Try a fast ROM like Vanilla 2.0 or Stripped HTC WWE ROM --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334810
Navigon need a lot of memory ~about 15mb free to run. I don't know if it's fixed with last update. I think that they are going to build more and more PNA and less PDA softwares updates. If you can try UPX4PDA That can compress your .EXE and .DLL, I 've done it for TOMTOM, .EXE ist now 920 Kb (before 2,30 Mb).
Anyway Navigon and iGO look nicer than TOMTOM, but TOMTOM run faster on PDA (with 200Mhz Processors). Gonna see with next generation with VGA and 400 Mhz proc.
hi,
I am readin with interest your post on the UPX4PDA.....
where do I find this app and does it improve noticably the performance of the application??
UPX4PDA really no matter for RAM problem.
Because once you launch your apps, it self decrompress it into memory and restoring it's original size.
With this tool, you'll only gain spaces on ROM and maybe quickest launch.
Only space and no speed gain.
bozboz said:
UPX4PDA really no matter for RAM problem.
Because once you launch your apps, it self decrompress it into memory and restoring it's original size.
With this tool, you'll only gain spaces on ROM and maybe quickest launch.
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Hello
installed IGO 8 on my artemis with meschle rom vanilla 4.02 with cube
runs perfect, for the moment no diverence with speed as tomtom
tomorrow i will give it a special test with monumets , speedcams etc
for my onest opinion layout and design better then tomtom
i noticed for the moment just one minor problem;
Igo 8 gets stuck when s2u2 turns on,i just removed s2u2
are there some other user so i can hear there opinion
greetz Hatchy
Ive installed S2U2 yesterday but haven't run IGO8 yet, so will do it now and post my findings in a bit.
Ok had it running for ten minutes now and has been fine?
i have got S2U2 setup so that it only comes on when the device is in standby and with IGO8 keeping the phone on it doesn't even start S2U2.
IGO 8 vs TomTom Navigator
Yeah,
installed IGO8 too, our 200MHZ TIO OMAP Processor is still fast enough
Maybe in future it will be too slow when 3D graphices are real to life, or like TomTom Navcore 8 (not for pda's). Tomtoms graphics are like a 80's computergame
My father in law still prefers tomtom (very user friendly) even with the 'easy mode' in IGO8.
I still have to test it passing monuments to see the better graphics, but runs smoothly, you can see that they worked on this one.
Any other competitive packages with great graphics ? (tested Destinator & Route 66 already in past). Maybe TomTom Navigator 7 will have better 3D graphics, any news ???
Thanks,
Innovator
using IGO8 from begin of may with full details and works perfect.
I'm not using S2U2
I 'm using iGO8 full with 3d elevations, custom pois etc. Works fine on artemis with Vanilla 4.1 (not touch).
Problems (2) that I mention is:
1. it needs at least 16 MB ram free
2. when I press the call button to make a phone call during navigation, dialpad screen is a mess and no call can be made.
Waiting for a better Greek map because building numbers is totally wrong.
Fantastic piece of software.
navigon 6.5
i also used the igo8. but as i made any turn it ran back in 2d modus. so i went looking for other navi software. tomtom i had for a very long time, but when i wanted to go to croatia for vacantion, i had to switch between 2 maps. western eu and eastern eu. now i use navigon, very convinced that this is really good. had no problems what so ever on the way to and back from croatia. fast and very good working for me.
Tested
Hello
i tested igo almost the whole day
NOproblems
it works great
zero times stuck
i got calls in between no problem
i going to keep it on my artemis , much better grafics then tomtom
one thing, didn't see the 3d buildings yet
greetz Hatchy
HTC P3300 with meschle vanilla 4.02 with cube
Hey i've tested it too ... first I had the "not enough memory" error, now I use filesystem cache 125 kb so it starts at least ...
but if I want to plan a long route the error message of iGO appears: "Not enough Memory, use different parameters"
I've got 27,6 mb free program memory (Meschles Artemis Touch 4.02 Vanilla) ... whats the problem, any of you got an idea???
I think in general Artemis isn't really fitting the performance specifications for iGO 8.
Hello
i tested igo almost the whole day
NOproblems
it works great
zero times stuck
i got calls in between no problem
i going to keep it on my artemis , much better grafics then tomtom
one thing, didn't see the 3d buildings yet
greetz Hatchy
HTC P3300 with meschle vanilla 4.02 with cube
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How do you achieved this? I played around with the memory options for 4 hours -> no success
I don't know
but i closed all programs ( also pocketcm)
i removed everything from tomtom and i set the splash screen on disabled
with me no problems and i just have 19 mb free
Update
I am using igo now and it works perfect
i've got a 4 gb micro sd with full europe for igo 8 and full europe for tomtom
so i can use both now
works like a charm
no problems for me
Hi.
Any way to get a link where to download IGO and test it, please?
Titek: buy it or try it in the shop and then buy?
Bucci said:
Titek: buy it or try it in the shop and then buy?
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That may be a good answer.
Anyway, is there a real difference between Tomtom Navigator and Igo? I got Tomtom on my ARTEMIS and it's quite good but sure, I do not see buildings in 3D.
I have Igo8 on my Artemis (working on Artemis Touch 4.02 Full no cube ROM @ 473 MHz) with full details and some skins and works fine (need at least 16 MB free RAM)
3d buildings
3d maps
realistic textures
full europe maps
Do IGO's maps take a lot of size on Micro SD card's or not? I know that for TOMTOM, maps can be about 100 Mb.
Hi I installed iGO 8 properly. But when it starts I see only blue igo screen and and " INIT API" then the program closes. Does anyone know what should be the problem.
I have Black&Blue 4.1 WWE Rom installed.
Titek said:
Do IGO's maps take a lot of size on Micro SD card's or not? I know that for TOMTOM, maps can be about 100 Mb.
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full TT europe map with POIs about 1,7 GB
full iGO europe map (including buildings, terrain, POIs) about 1,9 GB
cantilever said:
Hi I installed iGO 8 properly. But when it starts I see only blue igo screen and and " INIT API" then the program closes. Does anyone know what should be the problem.
I have Black&Blue 4.1 WWE Rom installed.
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what about free RAM before start IGO - more than 16 MB?
Bought version or Downloaded? so much aspect to solve your bug...
Bucci, thanks for your answers so quick
I will give a try with IGO whenever possible
Tried to get TomTom Navigator 7 (from diamond) working on my Hermes but it fails to install and reports "the device is not supported".
Anyone had more luck or knows if a more generic version will be released soon?
peebee01 said:
Tried to get TomTom Navigator 7 (from diamond) working on my Hermes but it fails to install and reports "the device is not supported".
Anyone had more luck or knows if a more generic version will be released soon?
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I have no idea but to be honest i don't really think so. Hermes is no longer produced by HTC npw for quite some time so i doubt new versions of software will be supported by it...
Cheers.
I've read in other forums that hermes is not supported cos it doesnt have an integreated GPS, so if they can desactivate the part of the program that it checks if there's an internal gps it will work... i guess in sometime someone will make it.
Hi,
here is already a TomTom 7 thread.
wfg
starbase64
peebee01 said:
Tried to get TomTom Navigator 7 (from diamond) working on my Hermes but it fails to install and reports "the device is not supported".
Anyone had more luck or knows if a more generic version will be released soon?
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try this one:
Mod edit: Warez link removed
Guy's.. I'm not sure on the legality of these posts, wouldn't this be classed as warez??
of cause a lot we do on the forums is a little dubious, but not sure if this is pushing it a little too far
Cheers
Steve
The Tomtom7 that is being distributed has been ripped from the diamond. No maps are being distributed and there are a lot of people saying that Tom tom 6 maps don't work. If you can get the software working, you will still have to purchase the maps...
I've got TT7 working with the TT7 v710.1571 map since yesterday on my hermes. I've got a diffirent version then the diamond version because that one doesn't work. I don't know if I can post info about that because I think it is warez...
I tried to instal it on my hermes yesterday, no luck here. Phone saying that software cannot be instaled as is not signed, what is a bit strange as i have no problems with any other software.
Works fine on my TyTN with Western Europe map for TT6. I'm searching for the new Western Europe v7 map...
But to make it work, I didn't used the link which is in this thread but I downloaded it from an other thread. (No maps, no serial, only software)
It's working on my Hermes with map v710.1561.
UI is much better looking and there are a few new features like "where am I".
Help's you when you are lost with your navigator
Cheers,
Drifter
K!lly said:
Works fine on my TyTN with Western Europe map for TT6. I'm searching for the new Western Europe v7 map...
But to make it work, I didn't used the link which is in this thread but I downloaded it from an other thread. (No maps, no serial, only software)
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Where? Which thread?
I'm wondering if anyone has any version of TomTom Home to detect TT7 on the Hermes...
I'm interested in getting the mapshare features working...
Take your memory card out of your hermes and use a memory card reader, then TomTom Home will recognise it.
Tomtom 7 confirmed and working with New Zealand Map on Jasjam. Goodluck!
drooch said:
Take your memory card out of your hermes and use a memory card reader, then TomTom Home will recognise it.
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I've tried doing this, but I still get the "Connect your TomTom device" page...
Did you get it working with TT Home 2.3 or 1.5?
If with 2.3, are you able to advise me the directory layout and volume name of your SD Card? I'm guessing it's going to be something basic that is not working lol
mmidas said:
I've got TT7 working with the TT7 v710.1571 map since yesterday on my hermes. I've got a diffirent version then the diamond version because that one doesn't work. I don't know if I can post info about that because I think it is warez...
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I'm in the same boat. Can confirm working with UK & ROI 7.15
TomTom 7 working
Got TomTom 7.450 (9028) working with Australia Map 720_1838 the latest 2008 Australia Map used the cab mentioned earlier in this thread thru Rapidshare.
I have not been able to hookup to TomTom home 2.3 yet
Got it working on CRC's stable 11 ROM on my Hermes 100.
I got my TTN 7.450 (9028) from TPB but the cab files appear to be identical to the ones posted in this thread... but it includes some other goodies that have been available for a long while.
Also apparently I have outdated maps though (damn you in2vnyl) as my maps were only v705_1485 but I am now upgrading to v1838 care of IPM.
IPM
IPM IP Mart Forum is really organized takes a bit of reading but the site has a lot of helpful information concerning TomTom GPS.
New TomTom setup with lastest TomTom application and 2008 Australia Map s really awesome. I don't think text to speech is featured for PPC Though
Hi,
Anyone tested TomTom7 & IGO8 and is TT7 really that better in graphix in comparison with TT6?
Or is IGO8 still the best with the 3D Buildings?
Any comparisons welcome!
Cheers,
Innovator
iGo8
i didn't notice a big difference with TT7's graphics. but to be honestly,
i didn't use it for a long time....
i prefer iGo because
- single maps for each country
- text to speech (it tells you the streetnames)
- better graphics
petervbeck said:
i didn't notice a big difference with TT7's graphics. but to be honestly,
i didn't use it for a long time....
i prefer iGo because
- single maps for each country
- text to speech (it tells you the streetnames)
- better graphics
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But do you think that it will work well with artemis and his 200 MHz processor.
I read that the minimum CPU required was 300MHz.
Cheers
Innovator said:
Hi,
Anyone tested TomTom7 & IGO8 and is TT7 really that better in graphix in comparison with TT6?
Or is IGO8 still the best with the 3D Buildings?
Any comparisons welcome!
Cheers,
Innovator
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TT7 is more accurate when it comes to the speed cameras. But I don’t see an improvement in graphics.
Zecanilis said:
But do you think that it will work well with artemis and his 200 MHz processor.
I read that the minimum CPU required was 300MHz.
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it's running on my father's artemis and two work colleagues are using it also without any problems.
2 questions
Where can you get Igo 8 from??
Also, how do Igo and TT7 compare with Copilot? The good thing about Copilot is the free speed camera updates. I am using CP6 which works fine but isn't very pretty, and am thinking of upgrading to CP7, Igo or TT7 (cab from this site and buy a map)
Same question here, where to get IGO8?
Thx
petervbeck said:
it's running on my father's artemis and two work colleagues are using it also without any problems.
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Well i've tried igo 8 on my artemis and the result was not very nice because if you answer any call or want to use pda for any other reason igo will stop running and blocks pda. Same thing appened with igo 2006, for my sadness i was hopping to keep igo instead of tomtom but for that reason i've changed again to tomtom.
Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator
Innovator said:
Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator
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The menu’s in TT7 are better looking and more extended. But the navigation screen looks the same.
Gps connectivity is also better than TT6..
Innovator said:
Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator
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POIEDIT free updates?
Am I missing something? I've just had a look at the site and it's £20 including a year's updates. Isn't this the same as getting them from tomtom?
Graphics are not that much improved but it has far more functions than
TT6
TT7 versus IGO 8
TT7:
I think nearly nothing has changed. It's a little bit slower than the previous version.
The maps have a few more details.
IGO8:
If you really want to try this navi, you need a lot of free ram!
I have changed to Vanilla 4.02. And since that I have enough ram to
use IGO. Otherwise IGO is rather slow and unstable.
The advanced features (3d-buildings, a.s.o.) are also only available if you have
enough free ram!
The CPU is no problem - it works very smooth with my Artemis!
bye
peter
I think I'll stick to IGO8, best graphics (and it's not slow on my P3300 as some experience).
I used the latest Artemis Touch Lite (without cube) and now the the Oops Black, both fast enough.
For the person that thought poiedit was not free, see :
http://www.poiedit.com/downloads.htm
You can even update poi's through wifi directly from your P3300 (pocketpoi).
Just saw it also works with IGO8, so i'm going to re-install
Cheers,
Innovator
peter_fuchs1 said:
TT7:
I think nearly nothing has changed. It's a little bit slower than the previous version.
The maps have a few more details.
IGO8:
If you really want to try this navi, you need a lot of free ram!
I have changed to Vanilla 4.02. And since that I have enough ram to
use IGO. Otherwise IGO is rather slow and unstable.
The advanced features (3d-buildings, a.s.o.) are also only available if you have
enough free ram!
The CPU is no problem - it works very smooth with my Artemis!
bye
peter
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What is the right version of Tomtom 7 for Artemis:
the VGA one or QVGA one?
(I'm using Meschle Artemis touche 4.02)
Thank you for your reply
Cyril
Skyjouby said:
What is the right version of Tomtom 7 for Artemis:
the VGA one or QVGA one?
(I'm using Meschle Artemis touche 4.02)
Thank you for your reply
Cyril
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So what screen you have? VGA or QVGA? If you're running Meschle Artemis rom, I would say QVGA
I've currently installed TT6, TT7 and Igo8.
IMHO:
TT6:
stability: 10
easy to use: 10
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 8
look&feel: 7
TT7:
stability: 10
easy to use: 10
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 7
Igo8:
stabilty: 5-6 (at least on my artemis ... I think need some extra RAM)
easy to use: 7
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 9
Bye
crash98 said:
I've currently installed TT6, TT7 and Igo8.
IMHO:
Igo8:
stabilty: 5-6 (at least on my artemis ... I think need some extra RAM)
easy to use: 7
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 9
Bye
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I'm quite sure you need some extra RAM because here on my artemis iGo8 is as stable as a rock. iGo is known for needing quite a lot of RAM (at least 16mb if I remember correctly)
Bart1981 said:
I'm quite sure you need some extra RAM because here on my artemis iGo8 is as stable as a rock. iGo is known for needing quite a lot of RAM (at least 16mb if I remember correctly)
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I'm running MOSSI meets ANJA31-Diamond Style V1.0 WWE ROM that is very fast and stable.. more I've installed today agenda and some other... after an active sync session (exchange) available Ram drops to about 12 MB and then I can free other 2MB with hibernate... but hardly i can get more than 14-15 Mb. I've tried many roms (officials and cocked) with same results. Maybe unloanding HTC Home should help but for now I'm quite happy with this configuration.
Bye
running Artemis touch 4.02 lite without cube and installed igo8 yesterday.
what an awesome program, running very smooth. much better then tomtom6 or 7
small example, when ur called while in tomtom, u cant switch to speakermode because the callscreen goes away when u pickup. (u have to push the pickup button longer to switch) when u hang up tomtom sometimes wont come back.
With igo8 this problem is fixed. when u pickup u see the callscreen and igo8 still runs in the background giving u directions when u hang up igo comes back.
Has anyone heard anything about TomTom on the HD? After watching the french review and her saying it doesnt work, is that because the tomtom 7 on the diamond is locked to the diamond?
I suppose we will never know until someone gets there hand on one?
And I wonder if it is because of applications made for VGA device is having problem on the 800x480 screen.
That may be the issue, however so far I have never seen the Diamond having any problems showing QVGA apps either it just blows them up. But because the aspect ratio is no longer 4:3 this may be an issue --- I can not image that HTC lets this be an issue though since hardly any application is made to suit WVGA.
There are 2 editions of TomTom (QVGA and VGA) as far as I know. The samsung omnia has also a different aspect ratio and the QVGA version works perfect. So I think the VGA version will work also on the Touch HD without any problems.
I have a Toshiba G900 (WVGA Display, 800x480) and I can confirm that TomTom works without problems on non standard screen resolutions.
This has also been confirmed by people with xperia's. It works without a problem!
Would TomTom 6 work on the HD?TomTom6 has worked fine on my HTC Universal, and its resolution is also different to the diamond. Or are there other problems to get TomTom6 work on the HD, like the internal GPS?
TomTom 6 works without any problems.
tomtom for htc diamond
i have tested both the tomtom 6 and tomtom 7 working on on the HTC diamond. It works a treat. Copilot 7 live also works well but the software is a lot older and doesnt pickup postcodes as well as tomtom.
Any more opinions as to screen compatibilty with popular software, like SB Pocket Plus and all the main apps?
Thanks!
Could anybody upload a screenshot picture of TomTom working on a WVGA Display (800x480)?
Alter Schwede said:
Could anybody upload a screenshot picture of TomTom working on a WVGA Display (800x480)?
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I also would be MOST interested in this as TomTom will be what I put this device to most (when I get it!).
Cheers!
from http://www.portegeclub.com/forum/
this guy was complaning about "Small Font In Tomtom 7"
edit: just found a youtube vid of tomtom on the SE X1
just go to 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSWycMOHOY
jaso2005 said:
Has anyone heard anything about TomTom on the HD? After watching the french review and her saying it doesnt work, is that because the tomtom 7 on the diamond is locked to the diamond?
I suppose we will never know until someone gets there hand on one?
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what do you mean "locked to the diamond"? I used both TomTom 6 and 7 for months on my VX8600
TomTom 7.451 is ok (7.9 ko) but keyboard is very little...
Currently I'm running TomTom 7 on my Touch Pro with maps for version 6.75. Working perfectly. TT 7 was installed from a cab file available on this forum which was extracted from Diamond. Will this same version of TT7 will work on HD with same maps (version 6.75)? I ma not sure what is the extended version of this TomTom i.e., it is 7 but is it 7.45 or 7.9 .... don't know. Tried to find it but couldn't find any such detail. Cab file was taken from Diamond forum on this site.
I run TT 7.910.9185 with WCE map 725.1906 and agree that the street names are too small to read in traffic, behind the wheel. The onscreen keyboard however is just fine, there are two settings small and large.
I have TTN7 installed on my Touch HD, and have inserted the micro sd card from my Polaris that had TTN7 running with purchased v7 (go520) map from TomTom.
I have followed the start up process and when I get to the "select a map" screen, it shows the "Manchester" map I got as a freebie and the "UK & ROI" map I purchased & used on my Polaris. However, when I select either map, TTN7 just closes down. Any suggestions please.
The maps you purchased have been activated for your Polaris only, according to your device ID.
Sorry, but where I find the 7.910 Vga version that see my Htc HD in Tomtom Home?
Thankyou IceMatrix
P.S. Can admin delete the post in software thread