I read a little about the htc super star, so which do you think for better?
For starters I tryed to dig up a little information and found(I think all this stuff was leaked so im not sure how acurate it is now cause the superstar isnt even on htx wordwide website yet):
Touch pro 2:
528 MHz processor[288 MB of RAM
Ships with WM 6.1 but has can be upgraded to 6.5 when it comes out
full qwerty keyboard and it tilts too ]
3.6 inch WVGA touch screen
Confirmed to exist lol
Superstar
600 MHz processor
256 MB RAM
ships with WM 6.5
full qwerty keyboard
3.7 inch WVGA touch screen
I dont think it's been confirmed yet
Plus I think the processor are made by different companies, and I found all this stuff simply by Googling so I hope this is convenient but I cannot confirm all this is accurate, especially for the superstar but feel free to add info in comments, and of coarse, tell which one you think is better.
I will start the discussion by stating my opionion, and thats that the touch pro 2 is better cause it has more ram a tilting keyboard, and a zoom bar and looks way better, so with that, let the discussion begin! lol
Hope superstar have a face soon...I can wait a year more to upgrade to something REAL good
"The Superstar however is the real mystery, and the only device which can not be identified from the known specs. The Nvidia AP16 chipset is likely referring to nVidia APX Tegra platform, which I am sure it very encouraging news to us enthusiasts disappointed by Qualcomm. The 3.7 inch WVGA screen near guarantees a media-focused device, which is something I think very many of us are waiting for.
See FuzeMobility for more info."
Here more info from the first thread on the theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495830
Superstar sounds nice. I hope it does use nVidia!
adeltaY said:
Superstar sounds nice. I hope it does use nVidia!
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but what is the main difference in the processor, its only 72 MHz more so what the touch pro 2 has a tiliting screen and a full qwerty keyboard and a zoom bar and dual speakers and dual mics, now thats awesome
The superstar is a completely different processor class and should be much much faster (don't just compare the rated speed). Like going from 486 to 586 in the PC world. The Tegra chipset is also 1080P video capable and there are many other goodies with a mean integrated graphics processor. The Pro 2 is good, but hardware that has been around for quite a while.
In that case then you got me salivating. However, I really doubt this thing comes to Sprint here in the states. If they bring out the TP2 Q3 of 09, why would they follow it up so quickly with this? I hope I'm wrong though as I'm upgrading in december. fingers crossed that something even cooler than the TP2 will be around.
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The superstar is a completely different processor class and should be much much faster (don't just compare the rated speed). Like going from 486 to 586 in the PC world. The Tegra chipset is also 1080P video capable and there are many other goodies with a mean integrated graphics processor. The Pro 2 is good, but hardware that has been around for quite a while.
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so wait do you think this it would be worth waiting like half a year for this phone? and also do you think it will make it o the us, cause some phones like the touch hd never did
The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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wow that amazing.. so do you think it will come to the us, preferabley t-mobile, and if so when do you think it will?
Mr.Sir said:
The superstar is superior, it will most likely feature HDMI out because it has HD capabilities, here is a pic:
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=845054
The graphic will be able to play the real quake 3 with ease, it can play hd for 10 hours and music for 30 hours
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wait a sec... I googled it and found this pic:
http://www.gsmdome.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nvideadevice.jpg
if its really THAT thick... yeah... umm I would expect specs that high but it doesn't look like that would even fit in my pocket. or maybe it just looks really bulky in the pic, but if you think of it that way then the htc shift is already out and is by far the best phone ever, so why doesn't every one get that? aside from the price, its WAY to big for a phone, so if the superstar is that big I would prefer a less powerful phone like the touch pro 2, or maybe that pics a fake. but I doubt it because it would explain why this device is so far ahead of other phones, but some people prefer bigger more powerful phones, just like the shift is a bigger phone than the touch pro 2 but is better, and I will admit even the touch pro 2 is big, but I draw the line when it is to big to fit in my pocket, but then again that's just my opinion on the touch pro 2 vs. the superstar btw after seeing that pic my opinion changed a lot lol
I don't think it's as big as it looks. In fact, I think it's just a REALLY stupid marketing pic. From the screen size, it looks about the same size on the front ast the Touch HD. The thickness is questionable, but I think the poor picture makes it look thicker than it really is. I'm guessing it's a little bit thicker than a Titan. The TP2 is a little bit less. Still would be bigger than the TP2, but maybe worth the sacrifice.
That said, (and I really have know information to back this up) I'd bet a paycheck they don't bring this to the states through a major carrier.
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I don't think it's as big as it looks. In fact, I think it's just a REALLY stupid marketing pic. From the screen size, it looks about the same size on the front ast the Touch HD. The thickness is questionable, but I think the poor picture makes it look thicker than it really is. I'm guessing it's a little bit thicker than a Titan. The TP2 is a little bit less. Still would be bigger than the TP2, but maybe worth the sacrifice.
That said, (and I really have know information to back this up) I'd bet a paycheck they don't bring this to the states through a major carrier.
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thats possible they didnt bring a lot of really nice phones to the u.s, but the touch pro 2 is still pretty nice, just a little under powered, if it had better graphics and a better processor, that would be the best phone ever lol
i don't mind having a big phone as long as it fits in my pocket i like the touchpro 2 and will be a nice back up if the superstar isn't in my budget or if it doesn't come to the us i'm currently using a wizard with a extended battery pack at times so i don't think a phone can get much thicker then that
htc superstar looks like a winner to me
but im interested and seeing about the buttons there seems to be a lack of buttons but i'm pretty sure it will have a g-sensor in it so that can kinda work in replace of the buttons
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i don't mind having a big phone as long as it fits in my pocket i like the touchpro 2 and will be a nice back up if the superstar isn't in my budget or if it doesn't come to the us i'm currently using a wizard with a extended battery pack at times so i don't think a phone can get much thicker then that
htc superstar looks like a winner to me
but im interested and seeing about the buttons there seems to be a lack of buttons but i'm pretty sure it will have a g-sensor in it so that can kinda work in replace of the buttons
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well based on that pic, (I used the size of the hdmi port as a base for the size) am starting to wonder if the phone really will fit in an average sized pocket... and if it does, it sure will be very tight in the pocket and fell uncomfortable
thats not actually the superstar its was just an Nvidea phone concept. as of now there are no pics of the Superstar available. check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeupVAMnvFA
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thats not actually the superstar its was just an Nvidea phone concept. as of now there are no pics of the Superstar available. check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeupVAMnvFA
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U beat me to it, that iz Nvidia's concept phone/mid that they made from since the start of 2007 or 2008. I will be getting the TP2 first then sell it on Ebay when the superStar comes out. If the SuperStar comes out an work like it does in the following video I will be really sold. Also I heard that it iz coming out Q4 '09. Here is a video of their Windows CE made UI, very fresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQa9nP4yyms
yea that's goin to be a really nice device i think i might have to steal your idea zellbz sell get the pro2 and then when the superstar comes out do some testing and then sell the pro2 online on ebay or two a friend.
i dont think the size of the phone will be to bad it i'm a pretty big guy anyway so a bigger device is a plus
Keland44 said:
yea that's goin to be a really nice device i think i might have to steal your idea zellbz sell get the pro2 and then when the superstar comes out do some testing and then sell the pro2 online on ebay or two a friend.
i dont think the size of the phone will be to bad it i'm a pretty big guy anyway so a bigger device is a plus
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thats not a bad idea lol (the selling the tpro 2 thing) but if I was to do that I think I would just wait for a newer phone than the superstar SO I think I will go for the Touch pro 2
Link278 said:
thats not a bad idea lol (the selling the tpro 2 thing) but if I was to do that I think I would just wait for a newer phone than the superstar SO I think I will go for the Touch pro 2
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yea that's tru especially if the tegra chips really live up to the hype that they are bringing
I remember this concept pic. from when they first announced that nvidia chipset. I doubt the superstar with look like that at all. In fact, it will probably be a tablet pc like the athena. btw, does the TP2 have a graphics processor at all?
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As we all sit waiting patiently for our new devices, let's kick off the new forum with a little conjecture.
I am from the U S , always last on HTC's list. What carriers do you think are going to pick up the TP II. What carriers do you think it would be most popular with ? We got screwed out of the Touch HD and The X1.
Do you plan to upgrade to this phone from the Tilt , or Raphael ?
Do you think that it will be the most popular phone ever for HTC.
What else?
Oh yeah FIRST ! ( I know how immature )
The specs dont really shock me to be much better then the Fuze/TP. So i might be holding back on this one.
A 3.6" WVGA screen isn't an update to its specs?
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A 3.6" WVGA screen isn't an update to its specs?
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I see this as the main advantage over the Tilt/Fuze (that speakerphone options is such a scam). I wish the they included a 5mp camera along with more RAM/ROM, however i'll be coming from a Tilt if i get this phone, so seems like it's well worth it.
I see people are already comparing the TP2 to the TP/Fuze. Folks, it's not actually a touch pro 2. THATS ONLY ITS NAME!!
It's way more like an HD with a keyboard than an upgrade from the touch pro. Almost everything about it is different from a TP; bigger screen, different screen resolution, no nav buttons.. just to name the major obvious diff's...
Since I have an HD now, I kinda like it, except it has no USA 3g freq's...
Cheers...
--Jesse
I , myself was on my way to a N97 until HTC announced this. If you marginally upgrade the specs, but take away my tilt screen ( Fuze ), that is not an update to me.
I don't like symbian all that much, so the TP II is definitely the upgrade I was looking for.
i'm using a hermes and i've been waiting to get a new one since the tytn II. now i'm gonna take a brave step and buy the tp2. you could be waiting forever saying "its not that much of an improvement".
their probably doing the same as apple, in fact more generous, throwing in little improvements in to newly released devices. i
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I see people are already comparing the TP2 to the TP/Fuze. Folks, it's not actually a touch pro 2. THATS ONLY ITS NAME!!
It's way more like an HD with a keyboard than an upgrade from the touch pro. Almost everything about it is different from a TP; bigger screen, different screen resolution, no nav buttons.. just to name the major obvious diff's...
Since I have an HD now, I kinda like it, except it has no USA 3g freq's...
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HD didn't have TV out!!
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I , myself was on my way to a N97 until HTC announced this. If you marginally upgrade the specs, but take away my tilt screen ( Fuze ), that is not an update to me.
I don't like symbian all that much, so the TP II is definitely the upgrade I was looking for.
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The main disadvantages the TPII has compared to say the N97 is the fact it is heavier and weaker on the multimedia production front with a weaker camera and video recording abilities.
the tp2 isn't worth for me to buy.
I will wait another year and a half when the more demanding devices will be coming.
With more demanding i mean devices that can run WM 7.
So a little bit patience, and if you want some stuff like tf3d2 or some other thing you like. just cook it and you can have what you want.
my 2 cents
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As we all sit waiting patiently for our new devices, let's kick off the new forum with a little conjecture.
I am from the U S , always last on HTC's list. What carriers do you think are going to pick up the TP II. What carriers do you think it would be most popular with ? We got screwed out of the Touch HD and The X1.
Do you plan to upgrade to this phone from the Tilt , or Raphael ?
Do you think that it will be the most popular phone ever for HTC.
What else?
Oh yeah FIRST ! ( I know how immature )
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You are not the las on the list, here in Mexico and Latin America we are the las of the list! even later than you and more expensive!
I´ll try to get one when I travel to Europe...sacrifing the 3G conectivity
I´m plannint to upgrade from Universal, but to be honest the actual specs of the phones does not are much better in some aspects than to my 2005 Uni...
Shazad.K said:
the tp2 isn't worth for me to buy.
I will wait another year and a half when the more demanding devices will be coming.
With more demanding i mean devices that can run WM 7.
So a little bit patience, and if you want some stuff like tf3d2 or some other thing you like. just cook it and you can have what you want.
my 2 cents
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You are wise mate!
That is the best decision!
I`ll do the same I think...
4 years waiting to upgrade and nothing really amazing has apeared till now...
I´m still loving my Uni!
I'm from the US too and I'm sick of HTC not coming out with phones supported the US's 3G Bands 850 and 1900, and now 1700 with T-Mobile. From HTC's website, it looks like all the neat new phones (the ones with the big screens) will be debuting in 900 and 2100 3G frequencies for Asia and Europe. I simply cannot understand why HTC doesn't continue make phones that will work on both 3G in Europe and the U.S. The TyTn (Hermes) and TyTN II (Kaiser) both worked on 3G networks in the U.S. and Europe (this is where I travel mostly).
It cannot be that expensive to include a few more 3G frequencies in each of these devices. I wish someone would explain to me whey HTC is taking this route. I have two theories. First, the U.S. carriers want to sell the phones directly and lock their customers into 2 year contracts. So to prevent us from buying European versions of the phones, the U.S. carriers have colluded with HTC to limit the 3G frequencies in the phones.
The second theory is that IP Whore Qualcomm doesn't want to pay royalties to Broadcomm over the patents Qualcomm has been violating for years. As you all know, Qualcomm is making most of the boards for HTC phones (such as the Kaiser, Touch Pro, Blackstone, and Touch Pro2.) To avoid the patent royalties, they just don't offer the offending products in the U.S.
Neither of these reasons seem like good ones. The U.S. carriers are finally waking up to the fact that they need to compete by actually offering more services at a lower price. AT&T is finally offering the I-Phone without contract. T-Mobile is offering some good month to month contracts also.
If the Qualcomm patent mess is the problem, Qualcomm should just pay Broadcomm the fracking licensing fees and charge HTC a couple more bucks per phone which can be passed on to the customer. (Yes, we will pay $5.00 more per phone to get a decent one).
If HTC doesn't get its crap together and take care of its U.S. customer base, I hope that Acer or Dell or someone comes along with some great WinMo or Android devices and cleans HTC's clock. I've been waiting for years for an HTC device with a larger screen. I love HTC but the love is fading fast.
I have given up on AT&T getting anything cool in a timely manner. You pretty much count on a new HTC phone coming out atleast 6months or more after Europe gets it.
I have been running a Touch HD on Edge with ATT since it became available online. I love the Touch HD much more than the Touch Pro I had. 2.5G speed internet is fast enough for me and I don't live in a 3G area anyway.
I value screen size and XDA support the most. The Touch pro2 seems appetizing, because I miss my hardware keyboard, but not worth going from a 3.8" screen to a 3.6" for the same hardware and keyboard.
I am holding out for the Toshiba Tg01 with the 4.1" screen and 1Ghz snapdragon processor. Finally will be able to play divx and movies smoothly, plus an even bigger screen. As long as XDA has plenty of ROM support for this phone when it comes out..I am so getting it! I'll just have to settle for Edge speed again.
I will never go back to a 2.8" screen again just to have 3G speed. 3.8" has spoiled me royally and its so much easier to read text/emails with.
T-Mobile!!
thank god the touch pro 2 is coming to tmo. laksjdf. its about time we got an upgrade to the wing. :]. as for the other services, good luck, hope you get it too.
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I have given up on AT&T getting anything cool in a timely manner. You pretty much count on a new HTC phone coming out atleast 6months or more after Europe gets it.
I have been running a Touch HD on Edge with ATT since it became available online. I love the Touch HD much more than the Touch Pro I had. 2.5G speed internet is fast enough for me and I don't live in a 3G area anyway.
I value screen size and XDA support the most. The Touch pro2 seems appetizing, because I miss my hardware keyboard, but not worth going from a 3.8" screen to a 3.6" for the same hardware and keyboard.
I am holding out for the Toshiba Tg01 with the 4.1" screen and 1Ghz snapdragon processor. Finally will be able to play divx and movies smoothly, plus an even bigger screen. As long as XDA has plenty of ROM support for this phone when it comes out..I am so getting it! I'll just have to settle for Edge speed again.
I will never go back to a 2.8" screen again just to have 3G speed. 3.8" has spoiled me royally and its so much easier to read text/emails with.
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I totally agree with your sentiments. I hate that damn 2.8" screen. I've been using my old Blue Angel with a great WM6.1 ROM at home. It still rocks. I prefer using it over my Kaiser just because of the large screen. I just hope that they will get these devices out to the U.S. fast. I'd love it if I could buy a Rhodium or Superstar which would work on either T-Mobiles or AT&Ts network (I.e., 850, 1700, 1900 bands).
I would love to get this phone but I guess im just indecisive.. or am I?
65k screen.. 3.2MP camera with no flash.. 512MB Internal Memory.. No real upgrade on the processor = Real let down
Does this phone have the tilt control like the ipod? or just the accellarometer for screen rotation (i know it has that).
It looks beautiful with the metal band around to side but the more I look at the specs the more im starting to be put off by it. Yeah they bumped up the screen and gave it better conferencing functions but does it really do enough to outweigh the downsides.
I think we should all chip in our pocketmoney and build the perfect phone
Mine would have a 1GB processor, 3.6inch WVGA 256k touchscreen, 32GB Internal memory, 8MP Camera with xenon flash, Windows Mobile operating system, slide out and tilt keyboard. Err cant think of anything else right now but that would make me pretty happy, if anyone wants to add to the list then feel free and we will get right to work on it
Ohh btw Denco I know you like mixing it up in the threads haha
I don't think that this will be released on ATT any time soon if at all, however, it should be coming up on T-Mobile due to something found in one of the ROMs.
The TP2 is pretty nice, but not much of an upgrade to the Fuze I have right now, just a bigger, better screen, a better keyboard, tilt, and official free WM 6.5 upgrade. If it was the best phone on the market then I would get it, but I think im going with either the Omnia HD, the SE Idou (If it comes out within 3 months ), or the TG01. Hopefully XDA will support the TG01.
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I don't think that this will be released on ATT any time soon if at all, however, it should be coming up on T-Mobile due to something found in one of the ROMs.
The TP2 is pretty nice, but not much of an upgrade to the Fuze I have right now, just a bigger, better screen, a better keyboard, tilt, and official free WM 6.5 upgrade. If it was the best phone on the market then I would get it, but I think im going with either the Omnia HD, the SE Idou (If it comes out within 3 months ), or the TG01. Hopefully XDA will support the TG01.
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OOO the Omnia HD looks SAWEEEETT!! OLED screen with 16 Million colours but no keyboard and a symbian operating system puts me of it..
Love the 12MP camera on the Idou but again the lack of slieout keyboard and the symbian OS lets it down for me.. I might be able to get over the operating system but I NEED my slide out keyboard for writing documents on the go.
Ughh whats a man to do haha
utvol06 said:
I have given up on AT&T getting anything cool in a timely manner. You pretty much count on a new HTC phone coming out atleast 6months or more after Europe gets it.
I have been running a Touch HD on Edge with ATT since it became available online. I love the Touch HD much more than the Touch Pro I had. 2.5G speed internet is fast enough for me and I don't live in a 3G area anyway.
I value screen size and XDA support the most. The Touch pro2 seems appetizing, because I miss my hardware keyboard, but not worth going from a 3.8" screen to a 3.6" for the same hardware and keyboard.
I am holding out for the Toshiba Tg01 with the 4.1" screen and 1Ghz snapdragon processor. Finally will be able to play divx and movies smoothly, plus an even bigger screen. As long as XDA has plenty of ROM support for this phone when it comes out..I am so getting it! I'll just have to settle for Edge speed again.
I will never go back to a 2.8" screen again just to have 3G speed. 3.8" has spoiled me royally and its so much easier to read text/emails with.
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1. 2.8" I can totally understand and I'm ACHING to get rid of my Titan for a nice large screen. However, is the difference between 3.6" and 3.8" really that big? Now if I had a touch HD I probably just wouldn't see enough difference between the two to switch. However, the screen wouldn't be the reason for me. Also, I'm wanting bigger and bigger screens too. 4.1" might be a little overkill for the pocket, but 3.8" is deffinitly fine.
2. Is the hardware on the HD (same as TP2 as you said) really not good enough to run full res videos smoothly? Is you device optimized through all the known XDA-Dev ways? This makes me a little nervous because I'm really hoping for this on the TP2. Does the TP2 have proper Hardware acceleration drivers? I'm hoping the TP2 will.
Edit: After thinking about it some I take back my comment about the 4.1" screen. That might actually be the perfect size once they get the edges of the device right up to the screen. 4.1" WVGA is actually the same width as the iPhone (2.1"), but it's a full .7" longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the next iPhone with a 4.1" WVGA screen. That would be positively sick! I guess I'll still be constantly looking to the future even after getting a TP2
mskip said:
I think we should all chip in our pocketmoney and build the perfect phone
Mine would have a 1GB processor, 3.6inch WVGA 256k touchscreen, 32GB Internal memory, 8MP Camera with xenon flash, Windows Mobile operating system, slide out and tilt keyboard. Err cant think of anything else right now but that would make me pretty happy, if anyone wants to add to the list then feel free and we will get right to work on it
Ohh btw Denco I know you like mixing it up in the threads haha
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Personally, I'm holding out for one of these.
touch pro 2 is really awesome, but seriously, the same processor, ram and camera??
K also there are gonna be some 1 GHz phones coming up soon I read, so I htought about and well, the touch pro 2 i PERFECT, but under powered..... so, umm.. really is it worth it, if it comes to t-mobile than who knows whne a better wm phone will come around to t-mobile, so I guess that would be nice but would I be better off just to wait for a better phone and just get it unlocked, cause honestly, how would it feel to have the best phone ever and then 3 months later have it crushed by 1 GHz processors? But I really like this phone, just cant decide if its worth it or not cause othere than the processor, it is AMAZING, if only they uped it to like 700 something cause.. COME ONE 1 GHz phones???
I seriously think the only reason people think it is underpowered is because they aren't seeing a speed bump between it and the orginal touch pro. Does that mean that it's bad, insufficient, or underpowered? Not necessarily? I'm using a titan, so I haven't spent time with the TP or THD, but is more power needed? HTC has worked hard to improve the efficiency of their software and the smothness of the build. That was specifically mentioned by multiple reps at WDC (getting from vids, I wasn't there). There aren't many 3D games on these yet so really the only thing that I can image better specs making a significant difference in is video performance. How has the THD and TP done in these respects when using custom builds and being optimized?
If it's not necessary, I might prefer the lower specs as it will lead to better batter life and a lower cost. I don't want power just because it's possible. Rather, I want what is best for my overall experience.
Agreed - battery life is key and the phone looks to be powered just right for me and how I use it. I guess a phone in the hand is sometimes worth more than two in the bushes (or drawing boards...). I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go for it as soon as it's out for AT&T.
~Eric
so its going to suffer the same video issues that plague the HD, diamond and the Pro. what a bore.
i will wait for the touch pro 3 if it has a dpad and softkeys.
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so its going to suffer the same video issues that plague the HD, diamond and the Pro. what a bore.
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Don't have those models or have even seen them. I have the antiquated Vogue and I've never experienced a video problem unless I try to play a movie far too outsized for the device. then frames drop like mad. But if I use it sensibly the video is great. My chief complaint is that at times the audio will go perhaps a half second out of sync. Nothing intolerable.
Yeah but also if 1 GHz phones coemout a few months after this then they will all be cabable of peforming htings that this phone never will be, its not that its not enougph power, especially when your coming from a tilt, but at the same time to think that the phones could be over powered by otehre phones by such a large margin in a matter of months kinda scares me, but all the otehre thinkgsd they tweaked make me love this phone, better speakers, better touch scree, thinner phone, better battery life, and also highr resoultuion.
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Yeah but also if 1 GHz phones coemout a few months after this then they will all be cabable of peforming htings that this phone never will be, its not that its not enougph power, especially when your coming from a tilt, but at the same time to think that the phones could be over powered by otehre phones by such a large margin in a matter of months kinda scares me, but all the otehre thinkgsd they tweaked make me love this phone, better speakers, better touch scree, thinner phone, better battery life, and also highr resoultuion.
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I don't quite get that argument. Computers in virtually every form factor have always been overpowered in a matter of months. Hence Moore's Law. That doesn't seem to me like a good reason to wait. You'll be able to make the same argument when the 1GHz phones are available. "1.5 GHZ phones are just around the corner! Don't buy now! You won't be able to use the latest mobile Java Twitter client that might be released 6 months after the new phones are available."
Or pehaps wait for the TP4
If you wait 2 years you´ll have a better device than the TP2...
my main concern is that it has the same processor as the touch pro 1 and alot of the new phones had that too so maybe just a couple monts later better phones will comeo ut but yeah this phone has a lot of great features too
Link278 said:
my main concern is that it has the same processor as the touch pro 1 and alot of the new phones had that too so maybe just a couple monts later better phones will comeo ut but yeah this phone has a lot of great features too
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Perhaps, but as has been mentioned elsewhere it seems likely to me that the roadblock to faster processors is not the technology of the processor per se, but the battery life.
Would you take twice the processor at half the battery? Or 30% greater size/weight? No idea if the change is that drastic, and some people obviously would make that trade. But I don't think that phone would have the target market that this one does - and my suspicion is that such a target market would be much smaller than is practical for anything but a luxury phone. The same sort of market that spends $1000 for a wallpaper app.
In any case, while advances in batteries are being made, I'm not aware of any substantial improvements ready for production on the horizon.
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Perhaps, but as has been mentioned elsewhere it seems likely to me that the roadblock to faster processors is not the technology of the processor per se, but the battery life.
Would you take twice the processor at half the battery? Or 30% greater size/weight? No idea if the change is that drastic, and some people obviously would make that trade. But I don't think that phone would have the target market that this one does - and my suspicion is that such a target market would be much smaller than is practical for anything but a luxury phone. The same sort of market that spends $1000 for a wallpaper app.
In any case, while advances in batteries are being made, I'm not aware of any substantial improvements ready for production on the horizon.
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I guess you have a pretty good point, I just hope that other phones at that are released at the same time are faster and lighter
Well, I can understand the frustration with an unchanged processor at 500 MHz and a doubling to 1GHz right around the corner. However, I think it will be sufficient. Either way, I won't be able to buy till December anyway so I'll have a pretty good idea about what's coming out next and might have more options besides the Rhodium on Sprint.
Either way, my main requirements are still there. Large and High Res touchscreen (VGA or WVGA), hardware keyboard, and a decent amount of hardware buttons (getting worse )
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Either way, my main requirements are still there. Large and High Res touchscreen (VGA or WVGA), hardware keyboard, and a decent amount of hardware buttons (getting worse )
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Heh...my requirements are almost the opposite, except for the screen. The Rhodium would be perfect for me if it just didn't have that damn keyboard. Maybe Sprint will come out with something like the HD2 for me, but it's not looking like it'll be 2009 if they do.
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Heh...my requirements are almost the opposite, except for the screen. The Rhodium would be perfect for me if it just didn't have that damn keyboard. Maybe Sprint will come out with something like the HD2 for me, but it's not looking like it'll be 2009 if they do.
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I think we'll see more hit in 2009 (not necessarily from HTC). Also, I really think we'll see the screens keep getting bigger as they can continue to shove it closer to the edge of the device and make the device thinner. Eventually, I wouldn't be surprised if we maxed out at a 4.1 inch WVGA screen. You could do it in a device the size of the iPhone, we just probably aren't quite there technologically.
Well yeah ur right technoledgy will alwaye become better, so i think I would just get this phone unless there are better phones out thwne it comes out which i doubt will hapeen
ajbopp said:
Perhaps, but as has been mentioned elsewhere it seems likely to me that the roadblock to faster processors is not the technology of the processor per se, but the battery life.
Would you take twice the processor at half the battery? Or 30% greater size/weight? No idea if the change is that drastic, and some people obviously would make that trade. But I don't think that phone would have the target market that this one does - and my suspicion is that such a target market would be much smaller than is practical for anything but a luxury phone. The same sort of market that spends $1000 for a wallpaper app.
In any case, while advances in batteries are being made, I'm not aware of any substantial improvements ready for production on the horizon.
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Not relevant: a fast processor car throtle down its speed to spare energy
Besides the new 1 Ghz processor will be engraved with a smaller process --> should also save energy. I havent checked the power consumption of the new Ghz processor but I can bet it is likely to be the same
It's quite likely HTC just wnated to save money (Or was not ready yet to integrate the new processor in its product)
About video issues: it's not a matter of speed of the processor but if I recall well video drivers issues (Hopefully they fixed it with the Rhodium but I doubt it. It seems HTC doesnt care)
What would be exciting to wait for is a phone with the new Tegra from nvidia. It will actually probably come out in the next few months
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Heh...my requirements are almost the opposite, except for the screen. The Rhodium would be perfect for me if it just didn't have that damn keyboard. Maybe Sprint will come out with something like the HD2 for me, but it's not looking like it'll be 2009 if they do.
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Why dont you go for the Diamond2 then ?
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Not relevant: a fast processor car throtle down its speed to spare energy
Besides the new 1 Ghz processor will be engraved with a smaller process --> should also save energy. I havent checked the power consumption of the new Ghz processor but I can bet it is likely to be the same
It's quite likely HTC just wnated to save money (Or was not ready yet to integrate the new processor in its product)
About video issues: it's not a matter of speed of the processor but if I recall well video drivers issues (Hopefully they fixed it with the Rhodium but I doubt it. It seems HTC doesnt care)
What would be exciting to wait for is a phone with the new Tegra from nvidia. It will actually probably come out in the next few months
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but since thats not a htc phone doesnt that mean it wont be on xda's website, and if thats the caase, im not sure its worth the 472 MHz lol
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Why dont you go for the Diamond2 then ?
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Smaller screen.
My TP2 just shipped (I guess I'll recieve it in 2 or 3 days) and I just saw today that the Omnia Pro is set to be out in August
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/12/samsung-b7610-louvre-rematerializes-specd-and-caught-on-camera/
Much more powerful processor than the TP2 AND slimmer phone
Aaaahhh I feel so bad
That said I think the TP2 looks better (but it's fatter..........)
TP2 still better IMO.
I only thinking of HTC Snapdragon based device after this.
Better ? Mmh I dont think so but I hope I am wrong
I also forgot about the better camera, and extra memory
But yeah I love TOuchFlo + the great support from XDA, so... at least that gives me a bit less regrets (Besides the keyboard of the TP is probably better (Though I dont care that much)
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My TP2 just shipped (I guess I'll recieve it in 2 or 3 days) and I just saw today that the Omnia Pro is set to be out in August
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/12/samsung-b7610-louvre-rematerializes-specd-and-caught-on-camera/
Much more powerful processor than the TP2 AND slimmer phone
Aaaahhh I feel so bad
That said I think the TP2 looks better (but it's fatter..........)
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I read that the interface is (at least at the moment) sluggish despite the CPU, and I hate the ergonomics (tilt, keyboard) of the device. I'm curious about 2 things on the OmPro, 1) how much battery life the AMOLED screen saves over LCD and 2) what performance increase comes from the video acceleration it advertises. For now, I actually have more good to say about the cheaply constructed acer m900.
Specs aren't everything[/sacrilege].
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I read that the interface is (at least at the moment) sluggish despite the CPU, and I hate the ergonomics (tilt, keyboard) of the device. I'm curious about 2 things on the OmPro, 1) how much battery life the AMOLED screen saves over LCD and 2) what performance increase comes from the video acceleration it advertises. For now, I actually have more good to say about the cheaply constructed acer m900.
Specs aren't everything[/sacrilege].
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True I forgot the AMOLED screen
Even if it doesnt save much energy, you can at elast expect it to ahve way better contrast than regular LED screens
Specs arent everything, but it is Samsung. You can expect them to do much better than Eten
Much better pics there:
http://www.techchee.com/2009/06/14/samsung-louvre-b7610-pictures-and-specs/
Aaah it looks so slim compared to the TP2
Probably lighter as well I guess
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You can expect them to do much better than Eten
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That depends on what you mean by "better". Better build quality and specs, sure. But there's almost nothing on the OmPro that really draws me in yet. The TP2's processor is fast enough. TP2's RAM (not clear on what amount of memory is reserved for active processes on the OmPro) is enough to do what I want. TP2's ergonomics are untouched and its interface has been optimized and honed across several past models.
What does draw my eye on the lower quality Acer device is that, out of the box, the biometric sensor that was designed solely for checking fingerprints multitasks--without making room for a big dpad, Acer has still provided what seems to be a very usable and versatile navigation aid while still saving space and adding a nice security feature. I suspect the TP2's zoom bar will also be hacked for similar functionality, but the added options aren't there out of the box. The m900 pulled a little rabbit out of it's hat with this one, and I think it deserves props.
I also noticed that the m900 has a built-in menu for auto-rotation settings by program, out of the box. The TP2 needs an external program for that functionality, and I wouldn't be surprised if the OmPro did too.
I suspect a lot of people will be drawn to the OmPros based on the specsheet alone, and if that happens, I'm actually glad. That just means the TP2 will face some more price pressure, and I might get a better deal. If I sit down next to an OmPro user, I don't anticipate feeling envy so mush as pity, because long after they've started lusting after the next higher spec'd device (often probably for little reason other than some of the numbers are "bigger"), I'm still going to be profoundly content with my choice.
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That depends on what you mean by "better". Better build quality and specs, sure. But there's almost nothing on the OmPro that really draws me in yet. The TP2's processor is fast enough. TP2's RAM (not clear on what amount of memory is reserved for active processes on the OmPro) is enough to do what I want. TP2's ergonomics are untouched and its interface has been optimized and honed across several past models.
What does draw my eye on the lower quality Acer device is that, out of the box, the biometric sensor that was designed solely for checking fingerprints multitasks--without making room for a big dpad, Acer has still provided what seems to be a very usable and versatile navigation aid while still saving space and adding a nice security feature. I suspect the TP2's zoom bar will also be hacked for similar functionality, but the added options aren't there out of the box. The m900 pulled a little rabbit out of it's hat with this one, and I think it deserves props.
I also noticed that the m900 has a built-in menu for auto-rotation settings by program, out of the box. The TP2 needs an external program for that functionality, and I wouldn't be surprised if the OmPro did too.
I suspect a lot of people will be drawn to the OmPros based on the specsheet alone, and if that happens, I'm actually glad. That just means the TP2 will face some more price pressure, and I might get a better deal. If I sit down next to an OmPro user, I don't anticipate feeling envy so mush as pity, because long after they've started lusting after the next higher spec'd device (often probably for little reason other than some of the numbers are "bigger"), I'm still going to be profoundly content with my choice.
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My Hermes is fast enough too... It's a bit funny to say you pity people going for the best specs [Though I understand what you mean: implementation is key]. "Fast enough" always depends on what you are aiming for... If you want to do gaming with your phone, you are always happier to have something fast
It's very likely the Samsung camera will be better than the TP2 (Samsung is a camera maker, and the camera is supposed to have an autostabilizer + a flash)
It is quite obvious from the pics it is also slimmer and I find it difficult to say you prefer a fatter phone in your pocket (Personally I dont)
The screen is quite likely to look better than the TP2's (However the "touch" part of the screen may not be as good) and will draw less juice (how much less, that we dont know)
I do agree the interface should be better on the TP2 (though we may see TouchFlo 3D adapted for the Omnia) and the phone looks better (I dont like the Samsung black & orange look)
As far as the price is concerned you are most likely right. However I wont enjoy the pressure on price since I already orderd my unit
In the end I thnk the TP2 looks a bit better, but fatter and with specs probably not as good, for maybe a hiher price than the one rumored for the Samsung
Dont take me wrong, I love HTC (It's my second HTC device), but this doesnt prevent me from being critical and not acting like an inconditional fan boy
Anyway TP2 will be enough for me to wait for a Tegra device (We'll need it if we want decent games... Typically the new iPhone will probably rock for this (Until tegra arrives and potentially proves to be better)
I am not sure it looks thinner by a lot. Maybe a few mm. Nothing that you can really wow about it. Samsung will reveal this phone, if its true, this month. You will have some real measurements then. HTC will also be revealing a line of new phones on 24 June. So maybe there will be more surprises. Maybe some Snapdragon goodies.
Don't be sad, I have just ordered mine too and it has yet to arrive. I still waiting for my carrier to call me to pick it up (should be today, fingers x). There will always be new things arriving and new technologies that will beat todays tech. So why be sad. Knowing that this upgrade for me is what will keep me happy for another 12 to 18 months puts a smile on my face already. By then, there will be 1.0+ GHz CPUs, GBs of storage space, GBs of RAM, Millions of colours and brilliant LCDs. Maybe a TP3 even.
This phone won't be available until 3Q. Look at the Omnia HD. It was announced back in February. It came out in June (only in some countries and not even here in Asia yet). So it took nearly 4 months. And the styling of the phone changed completely. So don't hold your breath on it. If the annoucement is gonna be made in June / July. You won't see the phone until October at the earliest and we won't see it until Xmas in Asia. Samsung takes ages to launch their phones over here.
So why wait and the long face?
I think the touch pro 2 looks better, and the design (especially the keyboard) is better. Apart from the processor, I don't see any improvements..
There probably is a long way to go optimizing this new processor also.
This is the first omnia trying to get to the bussiness people, so I am curious how that will happen. I never seen the UI but it sound really good. If it's really that good, I think it will be available via this forum for us too
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I am not sure it looks thinner by a lot. Maybe a few mm. Nothing that you can really wow about it. Samsung will reveal this phone, if its true, this month. You will have some real measurements then. HTC will also be revealing a line of new phones on 24 June. So maybe there will be more surprises. Maybe some Snapdragon goodies.
Don't be sad, I have just ordered mine too and it has yet to arrive. I still waiting for my carrier to call me to pick it up (should be today, fingers x). There will always be new things arriving and new technologies that will beat todays tech. So why be sad. Knowing that this upgrade for me is what will keep me happy for another 12 to 18 months puts a smile on my face already. By then, there will be 1.0+ GHz CPUs, GBs of storage space, GBs of RAM, Millions of colours and brilliant LCDs. Maybe a TP3 even.
This phone won't be available until 3Q. Look at the Omnia HD. It was announced back in February. It came out in June (only in some countries and not even here in Asia yet). So it took nearly 4 months. And the styling of the phone changed completely. So don't hold your breath on it. If the annoucement is gonna be made in June / July. You won't see the phone until October at the earliest and we won't see it until Xmas in Asia. Samsung takes ages to launch their phones over here.
So why wait and the long face?
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Thanks for cheering me up. No reaso to be sad, it will be anyway definitely better than my Hermes (Cant believe all my friends switched from Hermes to iPhone...)
Anyway my purchase is exactly in the same purpose as yours: wait for mature, well balanced tegra or snapdragon phones with better screens, camera, etc... ie roughly 1 year from now
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Thanks for cheering me up. No reaso to be sad, it will be anyway definitely better than my Hermes (Cant believe all my friends switched from Hermes to iPhone...)
Anyway my purchase is exactly in the same purpose as yours: wait for mature, well balanced tegra or snapdragon phones with better screens, camera, etc... ie roughly 1 year from now
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You are welcome mate!
There will be many of us sitting in the same boat for the next 12 months. Some will jump on and some will jump off. Hopefully support for this phone will be as great as the HD, so there will be many of more tweaks and upgrades to make this phone being 'THE' phone to have for 2009.
in my opinion, the TP2 will probably be the best in its class for the year to come even over any Samsung competition, mainly because of the stability and work put into the integration of the HTC software and WM OS. Samsung has great specs, but their software leaves a lot to be desired. I had an Omnia and a Blackjack 2 and they were extremely buggy, as with most WM machines I had. But with HTC Touch HD and onwards, they've really come close to making the OS as stable and quick as possible. The processor and specs look enticing on the new Samsung, but I'm confident that the TP2 will still out perform it in real life usage. (another case in point is that I had the Samsung INNOV8, the Nokia N96-killer...great hardware, but never came out with a new firmware and was always buggy and choppy to use).
So for right now, I don't think anyone should regret picking up the TP2 or Diamond 2...both excellent pieces of engineering. The real waiting should be for the next generation of snapdragon units...
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in my opinion, the TP2 will probably be the best in its class for the year to come even over any Samsung competition, mainly because of the stability and work put into the integration of the HTC software and WM OS. Samsung has great specs, but their software leaves a lot to be desired...
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Totally agree! I tried playing around with the TouchWiz and it is crap. Don't like it at all. Don't like the widgets and stuff on it where you can move things around. It makes it look messy. I was never keen on those moving around thingies. I know they are trying to achieve a desktop feel but it just looks weird on a vertical screen.
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My Hermes is fast enough too... It's a bit funny to say you pity people going for the best specs [Though I understand what you mean: implementation is key]. "Fast enough" always depends on what you are aiming for... If you want to do gaming with your phone, you are always happier to have something fast
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The device comes with DLNA, a connectivity regime that I gather is for displaying video between devices. I could understand an increasing need for speed for someone who wanted to store HD vids and TV-out them to an HD set, but there, I'd be skeptical that 800mhz would do the trick (which is part of why I mentioned being interested in how much performance you could get from the video acceleration mentioned in the specs) until I actually saw it in action. It's one of those things where, unless the vid accel is awesome, it probably works JUST well enough, and then in 6-12 months once the novelty wears and the defects really shine, the user is going to be drooling over some 1+ ghz snapdragons. Once you start looking at some of these devices on a price per month basis in situations like that, they look less attractive.
I'm not sure what games are available for WinMo that really push specs. Are you plugged into that? Is it just about looking for more hertz for better emulation performance? Or are there some serious native titles available that lag on current hardware or have settings you can crank up for better performance?
The thing is, there are tons of peeps who think 800mhz MUST be better than 500mhz, even though they have no particular application category where the processor is a real bottleneck. Clockspeed is, both in mobiles and desktops, a decreasingly useful metric for actual performance increases. Infrastructure is more and more important, and software optimization is the great undiscovered country in computing performance.
It is quite obvious from the pics it is also slimmer and I find it difficult to say you prefer a fatter phone in your pocket (Personally I dont)
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If you look at girth as a single feature, you're right, it's hard to argue. If you look at it as a balancing act between features, then the question isn't "fatter or thinner" but rather "fatter with better ergonomics or thinner with worse ergonomics". In this case I'm weighing the TP2's 5 row, offset, well-spaced (and potentially better tactile feedback) keyboard and tilt ability against the apparently (are there measurements yet?) thinner OmPro without them. Given that we're talking about a couple of mm, I'm totally willing to sacrifice thinner for the ergonomics. It is a personal choice, but not an indefensible one
The screen is quite likely to look better than the TP2's (However the "touch" part of the screen may not be as good) and will draw less juice (how much less, that we dont know)
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Battery life in portables is a huge factor for me. It plays into usability in a big way. If AMOLED really delivers, I will be wooed, just not before I see hard proof. If Samsung can't deliver the type of resistive screen responsiveness HTC managed in this round, that might be wash.
Dont take me wrong, I love HTC (It's my second HTC device), but this doesnt prevent me from being critical and not acting like an inconditional fan boy
Anyway TP2 will be enough for me to wait for a Tegra device (We'll need it if we want decent games... Typically the new iPhone will probably rock for this (Until tegra arrives and potentially proves to be better)
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This will be my very first HTC, and my very first winmo. I look at devices based on what they bring to the table, not on who made them (thus the Acer props). So I'm not trying to attack you for being disloyal , just attempting to reassure you that the two things you mentioned in the OP weren't necessarily worth hari kari.
If someone will really rip off some of HTC's best work in the very near future and throw in a snapdragon, well, yeah, then let the disemboweling commence.
Guys,
according to today's release notes Omnia Pro has 135MB RAM.
1GB is for ROM.
That's a far cry from TP2's 288 MB RAM.
If this is true, it's just not enough, regardless of the nice screen (AMOLED), potentially faster CPU (Mhz is not everything, needs to be benched) and nicer camera.
On WM devices RAM is the 2nd most important thing after CPU or your device slows to a crawl
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Guys,
according to today's release notes Omnia Pro has 135MB RAM.
1GB is for ROM.
That's a far cry from TP2's 288 MB RAM.
If this is true, it's just not enough, regardless of the nice screen (AMOLED), potentially faster CPU (Mhz is not everything, needs to be benched) and nicer camera.
On WM devices RAM is the 2nd most important thing after CPU or your device slows to a crawl
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yeha if it's true you defintely cheer me up
135MB is a little bit weird number though...
Yeah Mhz is not everything (For instance I never ever owned a Pentium P4 ehehe) hwoever in this field Samsung processor have the repuation of usually being faster clock for clock (Again I agree with you it definitely depends on the architecture of the processor)
Just got mine today as said before. Let me tell you. NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER!
You will see when you get yours mate. Man, it's a beauty!
The guys gave you technical reasons why our tp2 is still better... mine is much more simple.. the tp2 is still prettier and sexier....
Is there kind of flash for camera in TP2? My X01HT has white beam turning on when activating "flash". Thanks.
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Just got mine today as said before. Let me tell you. NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER!
You will see when you get yours mate. Man, it's a beauty!
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Heres my idea:
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Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN
Wow... that looks like a genuinely decent replacement for the Rhodium. As far as the exterior hardware goes, I would definitely love something like that to replace the Rhodium! The milled aluminum/white ABS plastic body, combined with the rounded sides and sharp edges immediately make me think of one of the new MacBooks. If that existed right now and would get a WM7 upgrade, I would definitely consider purchasing it (as long as it isn't powered by a Qualcomm MSM7xxx)
haha, I should have added some specs shouldnt I?
If I had my way:
Windows Phone 7 Series
GSM & CDMA versions available
1GB RAM
16GB Storage (stupid WP7S wont support memory cards ¬_¬)
Snapdragon 1.5GhZ processor (at least)
4" AMOLED screen
High quality Stereo Speakers
Front 2 mp camera
Back 5 mp camera
(If I was going to do real photography, I would use a camera, not a cameraphone so I dont think anything larger than 5mp is really needed)
GPRS/HSDPA etc
WIFI/Bluetooth (no wimax, because seriously.. whos gonna need it?)
3.5mm Headphone jack
Dedicated camera button on the side (the on-screen one is annoying)
Also as an afterthought I would have removed the notification LEDs
and placed them internally near the top, so the HTC logo glows when you have a text / have wifi on / new message etc
wow, the very bottom two corner picture looks like a DS Lite..it was cool until I saw that
whatever the TP3 may be, I just want it to run WP7S better than any phone in the market when it releases, and available at T-Mobile w/ a price point like the HD2 release
I like your version of the TP3! Looks nice.
Scott
Make it the same size/weight as the Diamond (including slide out keyboard)
battery life the same as a Nokia 1100 (or perhaps a Ford Anglia)
1GB RAM plus built in 16GB storage
"N" internet speeds guaranteed
And a request, a Personal Microwave Generator to heat up the cups of coffee that go cold whilst playing.
mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 3 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers
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mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 2 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers
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I am actually tempted to send this in to HTC...
lol I like how your 2 points became 3
my response:
1) there wouldnt be a stylus because lets face it Windows Phone 7 doesnt really need one and also it would be a capacitive screen anyway, so it would have to be some kinda funky stylus or a sausage
2) If they included a flash it would have to be a real decent one because ive never seen a cameraphone flash which has been any help
3) lol i dont want to push my luck
I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.
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I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.
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wow, you obviously havent kept up to date with what Windows Phone 7 Series is then.....
What, no HDMI port?
hmm... i tried sending HTC an email about this, but every time it said there was an error with their messaging system..
ill try again tomorrow :/
no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.
Besides faster processor and more memory - A Track Ball!!!
Yeah that looks awesome!!
Something with the HD2's massive screen and 1GHz processor would be awesome. Plus a good/big hardware keyboard. I also hope there is a decent graphics chip, as that would really enhance performance.
I would be thrilled if there was an Android option too.. but judging by HD2/Supersonic it looks like Android may lag behind in release.
And yeah, trackball (or some sort of joystick/d-pad) is one of those excellent overlooked features (very grateful to have one on my Nexus One).
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no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.
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I completely agree. Not excited for wp7 and how its going the route the iphone went with the utter lack of customizability. Android would be sweet though.
**** android, pos os.
-_-
LOL
WM7 and 6.5 FTW.
^^lol im with you
WM 6.5 FTW
but being i came from an iphone idk how i feel about WP7 just yet
WM7, cool design (thx ), big and great hardware (1,5ghz+ CPU, 512+MBRam, 16GB Storage) and a long battery and i would love to own it
cris_rowlands said:
Heres my idea:
Click on the image for a larger version
Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN
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I didn't know we were allowed to post pr0n in the forums, but whatever!
These renders do a great job of putting a visual form on the same fantasy that many of us here have had...an HD2 with just that extra few mm of thickness, and the mid-waist split that could only mean one thing; a dancepad for the thumbs (aka "hardware keyboard")
Well Cris, when HTC finally wizens up and decides to officially release this monster, we'll remember where the design first saw the light of day!
Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
Afro Az said:
Well isn't this rumour fantastic news?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/rumored-htc-desire-hd-specs-surface-4-3-inch-screen-8-megapixe/
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October timeframe sounds about right. It doesn't sound like enough of an upgrade for me to worry about it, so I guess I'll skip that generation and wait for the next.
Regards,
Dave
damn aluminium body <3 shame about the too big screen, though it be prob possible to port some of the stuff from it to our desires
I just read that on another site and considering I just bought my Desire online yesterday (so it isn't here yet), it wasn't be best news item to read.
I didn't really want a 4.3" screen though (especially if it's pentile...), and while the aluminium body sounds great, none of the other changes are appealing enough to me to worry about.
I know it happens all the time in the tech world. But I hate the feeling I get when something newer and shinier comes out and I can't get it. Especially when its a "better" specced model of a phone I already own.
P.S I know the phone isn't out yet and is only a rumour, but don't you guys sometimes feel the same?
Think of it as the GSM, 3G-only, version of the EVO 4G that everyone has been asking for. The aluminum body addition is nice.
4.3" too big
I like this present device enough... don't need an upgrade until things improve considerably more, which I'm not expecting till March-June 2011. The only currently outstanding issue for me is memory space.
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It's not really too much of an upgrade. Better camera and in built memory. There will be better stuff to come than this for sure.
Looks like HD2 on steroids with Android. I suppose it will have LCD and if they manage to squeeze it in smaller body then HD2, but with bigger battery it would be great.
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
Ah don't worry about it, it's not as if it's life and death is it.
theres always going to be something better coming out.
Get what you need, and not whats new on the streets
I was slightly underwhelmed to be honest...
Specs are great, everything is "desirable" apart from the size of the device as i personally think 4.3" screen is too big - owned the Touch HD2 but sold it for the Desire as it was too big for me, especially with a leather case
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cgrec92 said:
i think im gonna cry, simply better than the desire
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How is it better? Same processor, possibly similar RAM and most likely running Sense 2.1 or getting 2.2 at the same time as the current Desire. An aluminium body doesn't make a phone and more likely than not it will be in some sort if case anyway.
The rest of the specs are a natural evolution of things though that screen is getting close to tablet territory for me. I think the Desire is a great phone the way it is though a Hummingbird processor and PowerVR GPU would be certainly welcome.
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There's not really much in the way of specs increase though, same processor means it won't have increased performance...
More onboard storage is handy, but not as essential as it was thanks to apps2SD. A bigger screen without a resolution change doesn't really interest me, the Desire seems about the right size as it is. No interest in a slightly improved camera.
Pretty underwhelming for a 'Desire HD'.
Coming from a HD2 I am not jealous it has a bigger screen lol.. Only thing that would get me jealous was if it had 4G and a faster CPU, which it doesn't. Until then, it can have a bigger screen, 720p recording and what not, I couldn't really care less lol, we have custom roms with 720p recording anyway so that one is already irrelevant. I love my Desire so much more because it doesn't take my entire hand to use and because it just works like a phone should (Unlike HD2). Anyone who is thinking "oh crap I just got my Desire" you have an awesome phone. Enjoy it and stop worrying about new versions lol (Until a sort of EVO 4G comes out here, then ill join the club haha)
What i find to be so disappointing is that they aren't upgrading the CPU! I mean cmon HTC look at what Samsung and Motorola have coming out. Not to mention the fact that the Snapdragon's GPU is pretty poor compared to samsung/moto. The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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The earlier rumors stated that the Ace would have a dual core @ 1.5Ghz, what happened to that?!?
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I really can't see any benefit whatsoever in having a CPU with those sort of specs in a phone at the moment.
Regards,
Dave