SD card reading speeds - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi to everyone!
So, does anyone know or at least make a guess, if the Rhodium will still require things like SD TuneUp for decent read speeds, video watching etc?

GSM arena tested the TD2 with Coreplayer. It seems like it can play Xvid videos without any dropped frames. So it looks like its better than the HD. So maybe you won't beed the SD Tuner. This is only wild guess tho.
Since TD2 shares the same CPU as TP2, I guess it will be the same.

cocoaju said:
GSM arena tested the TD2 with Coreplayer. It seems like it can play Xvid videos without any dropped frames. So it looks like its better than the HD. So maybe you won't beed the SD Tuner. This is only wild guess tho.
Since TD2 shares the same CPU as TP2, I guess it will be the same.
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doesnt the Touch HD also use the same CPU?

Lyian said:
doesnt the Touch HD also use the same CPU?
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Nope, the HD uses a newer CPU because of an USA patent, something was taken out of the original CPU (the one in TD2 and TP2). So that HD can be sold in the USA. Somehow HTC got around the patent issue (or not) and now they use are using the older CPU (better) on the newer phones.
I hope I make sense. This is what I have read on the internet in many forums.

Ok, but I'm not interrested in the CPU. As I stated in the thread title, I want to know if SD reading speeds will finally be acceptable. Its a matter of proper drivers, not CPU. In other words, will we still have to install third party drivers like SD TuneUp

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Smae chipset as xperia, better performance?

i am an xperia owner (soon to be ex-) and i was able to play with a friend's rhodium (tmobile branded) and I played the same video file on coreplayer that I usually benchmark on my xperia and got benchmarks on the rhodium. Ever since I have had my xperia this same video file has given me 81% whereas the rhodium gives 111% result from the coreplayer benchmark. Aren't they both running the same chipset? is it a case of better driver implementation? I am looking to get the rhodium but I don't to pay the more money for something that uses the same tech, but bigger screen etc. Any help would be appreciated.
No, it doesn't use the same chipset. One uses the MS7201A (XPERIA) and the other uses the MSM7200A. According to another thread somewherein the forums, this means that they are both 65nm process chips (due to the "A" in the name). But the 7201 implemented some workarounds due to the legal controversy between Qualcomm and Broadcom. The workarounds implemented some performance issues. Now that the legal trouble as been settled between those two companies, they are using the 7200 which does not have the performance issues of the 7201 (though the driver issues is a whole other story).
Or at least that's what I got from that thread when I read it a while ago.
I went from xperia to touch pro 2. yes, there is a performance difference, with the tp2 being faster and smoother. That being said- I miss my xperia greatly. The whole Sony Ericsson style was to die for, especially with the optical pad, panels (in particular the xperience one). In fact, I wouldnt mind switching back to the xperia.
What video are you using to benchmark? just curious
I think xperia's processor is not running on its full speed because of heat and battery time
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What video are you using to benchmark? just curious
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Im using an episode of terminator Sarah Connor chronicles 624x352 resolution 140kbps, 23fps. Ive used this file in many different roms and consistently got 81-84% in coreplayer. Why do PDAdb and other sites and posts on XDA show the X1 as having the 7200?? Thanks for all the replies.

Intense 3d Games

Evening guys,
just installed the Neo drivers on my Rhodium, and want to test it with some intense 3d games, any suggestions?
Doughnut said:
Evening guys,
just installed the Neo drivers on my Rhodium, and want to test it with some intense 3d games, any suggestions?
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Solitaire
There really isnt much in terms of "3D games" for windows mobile.
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test it with some intense 3d games
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XTRAKT. it is floating around in the themes applications and software forum.
please report whether the drivers provide any performance boost.
mastermarv said:
XTRAKT. it is floating around in the themes applications and software forum.
please report whether the drivers provide any performance boost.
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no lol, its running exactly same as before???
i also tried need for speed last night...runs flawlessly...not sure if it shouldnt on standard tp2???
Personally I noticed some lag/slow down in the "Hard" stages in Xtrackt. So you might wants to check on those. The normal (first five) work smoothly and flawlessly from what I saw.
There are other 3D games like prince of persia 3D HD but I haven´t tried them so I don´t know how threy handle with or without the 3D drivers.
Good luck and I hope you´ll report your findings.
Just tried Prince of Persia HD...
For a so called "HD" game the graphics are terrible IMO...
Xtrakt has superior graphics, as does Need for Speed Underground, all 3 seem to run flawlessly.
I think im expecting way too much, im expecting similar graphics to the PSP...Which will probably never happen lol...
Well, remember that no matter how good the graphics drivers the game shouldn't be any better than it was designed to originally be. Also Xtrakt was for the SE X1, meaning that it might have been optimized for the processor anyways.
How about FPSCE, the playstation emulator. It seems it doesn't run full speed on many games. Maybe the drivers will help a bit with it. Otherwise nothing else comes to mind other than things which normally don't work or only test the abilities such as the Quake 3 Arena port (which supposedly only runs at 5fps):
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-quake-3-arena-ce-v1-1b.html
the 3d benchmark tool:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-3d-benchmark-v1-0b.html
and the diamond hologram software floating around here somewhere...
If we're lucky this game engine demoed on the X1 will make it into games that we can actually play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yZ...-para-windows-mobile/&feature=player_embedded
Same...
Also Xtrakt was for the SE X1, meaning that it might have been optimized for the processor anyways.
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They both have the same processor: Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528 Mhz, the only difference would be the d rivers implemented by Sony Ericsson.
Cyph
Madcypher said:
They both have the same processor: Qualcomm MSM7200 @ 528 Mhz, the only difference would be the d rivers implemented by Sony Ericsson.
Cyph
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That's what I meant. As it's a system on a chip if the game was designed to properly access the graphics chip on the x1 then it might run the best it will with or without installing the 3d drivers on the TP2 (and therefore it could be a bad test subject).

[Q]FPSEce (Play Station One) for WVGA on WM 6.5.3

Hello everybody!!!
I think many HD users looked for good games for their devices. There are some really nice applications like Resco Bubbles, Experiment 13 etc. Also We can run Nintendo, Sega and other old games on HTC HD(with sortware multitouch support).
However, for my device I want at least psx games...(I am final fantasy and takken fan) I found emulators such as PocketISO and FPSEce, which allowed you run games from PS1. BUT I cant install it properly(I read many articles about it before start a new thread, but still cant find solution). Furthermore, I read, that FPSEce is not support WVGA(((
On Youtube I found many videos about FPSEce 0.10 working on Samsung Omnia and running psx games with full speed. I don't think that HTC HD is less powefull in turms of CPU and RAM than Omnia(maybe I am wrong).
So, can anybody explain me how to install it and (if possible) how to make it multitouch (like Morphgear with some skins and fix)?
I am using WM 6.5.3 by T2M(28004)
Thx in advance.
I try to run fpsece many times, but always whit poor result. The site appear old and no update. However, This progr starting directly from the executable file and work in the hd wvga, but can't start games for me
the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.
crashDebug said:
the point is simple really, the resolution aint supported. omnia has a far less screen res, thus delivering better application experience/smoothness. moreover, it seems fpsece has been discontinued or at least not updated in the last, well, year, so i fear your request is d00med from the start.
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Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.
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Not really. Project is not dead!!! Check video on YouTube, it is amazing!!! Driver 2 with "touch" control and full speed. G-sensor is working, nice on-screen buttons, sylus mode etc. Now it is even better than real PS1!!!
By the way, I had chat with moderator from FPSE forum, and he said, that new version will probably released before Xmas! I hope it will fully compatible with our device.
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Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!
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Could you post a link to the youtube video you're refering to?
Thanx!
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )
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I've been waiting for FPSCE all year now, and every week we've been told "It's a few weeks away". I've purposely put it out of my mind for weeks now as I can't be bothered with the continual delays (although it does seem a lot of progress has been made recently and it looks a fantastic app).
I had 0.96 running on my HD no problems, except the FPS (frames per second) was about 17 for even simple games like Ridge Racer = unplayable. However vers 1.0 promises to work a lot quicker.
There is also a thread on their forum about the Touch HD, and I think it will work and be playable if/when released. They are also working on multitouch-faking controllers, otherwise bluetooth controlllers work well.
So I'm a little ambivalent over the project, mainly because I got sick of waiting for it, but I'm ready to eat my hat if/when it is released (probably in 2011 )
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Well, I hope you are wrong about release date...
About FPS: I have tried Final Fantasy 8 and during first video it worked with 25-35 frames per second. However, I can't start the game - I can see FF boot screen, but I can't move to the main menu. I pressed all buttons("x", "start" etc.) with no result, only "select" buttons works fine. What I did wrong? I have tried other games with the same result.
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.
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Check this links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHDwIkGuvAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
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all videos on 1Ghz device doubt it will work same on 528Mhz... maybe half speed.
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Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)
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Exactly why I wanted to see the videos myself... You can't compare the TG01 with the HD! The HD doesn't even have half the Toshiba's speed!
(Even when running a SnapDragon processor at the same frequency as the HD's processor, the former is faster than the latter...)
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I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....
aliff said:
I know that TG01 in terms of speed and performance much better than our device.
I just posted this links as an example of what new version can do....
About speed:
This is DELL X50v
On this device FPSEce runs many games with 30-40 frames per second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4JNUaEOdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSgNJlq38Q&feature=related
I don't think that X50v(processor 624 MHz Intel PXA 270, 64 RAM, VGA) is more powerfull than HD(processor 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A, 288 MB RAM, WVGA)
BTW, on this video it seems to be an old version of FPSEce, however authors said that new version will run games much faster and smoother.....
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Don't know, if CPU is everything... I know the Axim has a very powerful 2700G graphic chip the HD doesn't! (I owned a Axim before my HD...
this will be fantastic. i can't wait to try crash band on my Topaz
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ps1 for wvga
hi guys i think fpsece looks really good im tired of the low quality mobile games they keep bringing out and this looks like it will be decent. just need to find out how to get all my favourite ps1 games on my storage card. i read on the oficial forum that the developer is thinking about charging £5 for the emulator when its available on wvga devices. well im sure he/ shes done alot of work and i for one think thats fair. i think it will be free if you dont want to save your game or something like that. just cant wait.
Hey GUYS!
FPSEce is released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.fpsece.net/downloads.htm
the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?
W.C. said:
the software still hasn't support 6.5.3 yet, has it?
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This software support WM 6.5.3, at least some ROMs. For example, it works on Flashmore's and XennyTech's ROMs.
where can we find some games?
hello00 said:
where can we find some games?
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google is your friend! can't really say, where you can find it.

Im tempted to return.....

Hi guys
I recently got hold of a Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, and i have to say im rather dissapointed.
The lag issue, which none of the lag fixes really actually stop, is so annoying, GPS not working as im one of the unfortunate people who have this issue is another annoyance
The screen is fantastic however, and the music player is aweseome with its equilizer.
However i use my phone for numerous things, media is one thing, GPS also as i dont see the need to buy a seperate sat nav when my phone "should have it",
Now i am going to wait until the official Froyo release from samsung before making any decision.
Right stop my moaning and here are my questions
i have been offered in exchange a sim Free Desire, plus a 16gb Class 6 sdcard, all boxed.
The one thing that worries me about going down the Desire route is how long is this handset gonna last.
Looking at benchmarks the i9000 creams the desire (with lag fix) in pretty much everything, i know this is down to the pretty poor Adreno 200 GPU on snapdragon as linpack shows the snapdragon FPU is better, Quadrant over 2200 currently on my SGS
in gaming terms for the future how long is this gonna last? can i expect games that are released in 6 months from now to run flawlessly? i know its hard for people to see into the future! but NEed for speed seems to run pretty much identically to my SGS, so im wondering if its all down to optimization on both chipsets
also gingerbread? a definate yes? or have HTC still not announced if Desire will be getting it
Samsung wont give any answers on this whatsoever
Also what would you guys do?
The samsung guys say "stay with it" but i want opinions from both camps
Cheers
You are on the same point I was a few weeks ago, well I wasn't offered in exchange by someone but the store owner offered to change it for me. Honestly, I'd say go for it. Samsung's software is crap, Desire has a lot better development community. Not to mention you get HTC Sense. Now one warning, Desire doesn't got true multi-touch, it got pinch support but thats about as far as the multi-touch goes. I tired playing Real Football 2010 with a Desire and it was a crap experience. People have reported Quadrant benchmarks of almost 1800 via OCed kernel and custom ROMs, if you really want to get down to that point but honestly it doesn't make a difference.
And HTC still hasn't announced if Desire is getting Gingerbread but there is a good chance the ROM community will be able to get it running. Plus Samsung still hasn't released Froyo, so I don't see a bright future of Gingerbread coming from them.
Now, GPS on Desire is damn good. It works as good as my 2 year old satnav if not better(It usually gets the fix better, I gave my satnav away ).
Honestly the handset has a good life-time to last, HTC Hero is still doing pretty good so Desire should do good as well was another year or more. Even if HTC may drop the support we have people here giving new life to the device.
My opinion: go for it! Desire is a great phone / smartphone.
The more I use it, the better it is.
Make sure you do a hard reset when you get it...
im seriously 50/50 on this, and now my time frame has been shortened, my mate wants to know by tomorrow otherwise he is ebaying it (mates eh!?)
Benchmarks are not the be all and end all, its bragging rights i suppose.
one thing that is seriously tipping me back to HTC is the support and community development, Samsungs own support is utterly awful, Kies is the worst piece of software i have ever ever used, and no OTA?! what the hell is that about.
As for HTC back in the day when i had my hero, ok there was delays but at least they kept people in the loop, one of my biggest annoyences is not being advised anything from samsung other than "we are working on it"
i dont hold out anyfaith that the filesystem will be sorted out with froyo, i mean it says alot when the XDA guys can fix it, but Samsung dont seem to even ackowledge the fact the software is naff!
i thought the desire had true multi touch? Does this mean playing psx4droid is a poor experiance?
No, it doesn't got true multi-touch. If the x1 intersects with y2 or x2 with y1 it goes haywire. It doesn't have gorilla glass either. But the community of HTC Desire is far better than Galaxy S from my experience, we don't have to use Kies or similar crap either(It was a PITA to get Kies to even recognize my phone, took me well over 4 hours and a lot of headaches), we got OTA! .
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No, it doesn't got true multi-touch. If the x1 intersects with y2 or x2 with y1 it goes haywire. It doesn't have gorilla glass either. But the community of HTC Desire is far better than Galaxy S from my experience, we don't have to use Kies or similar crap either(It was a PITA to get Kies to even recognize my phone, took me well over 4 hours and a lot of headaches), we got OTA! .
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Glad you share my view on Kies, i honestly have never had such issues flashing a firmware, at least with Odin it did what it says on the tin
ok well im pushing more towards the desire, i just HOPE that its as much as an enjoyable process playing PSX games on psx4droid as it is on the Galaxy S, i do alot of travelling and i spend most of that time on trains playing FF7
If you want to do gaming stick with the galaxy s the desire isn't very good for that. Maybe 2.2 for the galaxy s will resolve your issues. I love the desire its a great phone but its horrible for gaming.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
it all depends how much more powerfull the new version of adreno is, obviously developers are still going to develop games for the arm cpu and adreno inparticular, imo i think our gpu will be able to play the games developed for newer versions of adreno but maybe not flawlessly .............. as far as gingerbread goes, the desire will never get it officially as htc are more intrested in supporting what will be then there current generation of devices, but as the desire and n1 are almost identical, and the n1 being googles official developer device, they are sure to get gingerbread, so we maybe we will be the first device to get working custom roms
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it all depends how much more powerfull the new version of adreno is, obviously developers are still going to develop games for the arm cpu and adreno inparticular, imo i think our gpu will be able to play the games developed for newer versions of adreno but maybe not flawlessly .............. as far as gingerbread goes, the desire will never get it officially as htc are more intrested in supporting what will be then there current generation of devices, but as the desire and n1 are almost identical, and the n1 being googles official developer device, they are sure to get gingerbread, so we maybe we will be the first device to get working custom roms
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I never thought of it like that actually regarding future android updates, basically the N1 is the same hardware as the desire, just lacking a little bit of Ram i believe, so shouldnt be too difficult to port over a rom
you sir have just tipped the scales again!
If you care about gaming stick with SGS..devs are even stopping games for desire ( see n.o.v.a) due to the multitouch bug and the the GPU isn't even remotely close to sgs's..Desire's 720p is a big pile of disappointment as well,no matter what rom you try..
other than that it is a fantastic phone...also unique feel as you hold it in your palm..its ergonomy is amazing, even ip4 doesn't sit as well in the hand as desire does..
Your right about the iPhone 4 it is a pain to hold now lol (not about the signal "issue") the edges are Sharp.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I have a Desire & my friend has a Galaxy S.
I would say the Samsung has a better screen. However:
The Desire is a better over all device, software wise and build quality wise. Oh and it has more ram.
However, if gaming is a serious thing for you, I suggest you stay with the Samsung because they really do have the most powerful mobile GPU.
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I have a Desire & my friend has a Galaxy S.
I would say the Samsung has a better screen. However:
The Desire is a better over all device, software wise and build quality wise. Oh and it has more ram.
However, if gaming is a serious thing for you, I suggest you stay with the Samsung because they really do have the most powerful mobile GPU.
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In respects to gaming its not gaming as such, i mean angry birds beta from the market, any gpu should play that, im more bothered about PSX emulation at this point, my sgs is superb with psx4droid, where as the videos i have seen on youtube dont say the same story with desire, however these are based on the early versions of the app,
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In respects to gaming its not gaming as such, i mean angry birds beta from the market, any gpu should play that, im more bothered about PSX emulation at this point, my sgs is superb with psx4droid, where as the videos i have seen on youtube dont say the same story with desire, however these are based on the early versions of the app,
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Don't worry about that...psx4droid does not yet support hardware acceleration so all graphics are rendered from the CPU , not the GPU...so they should play it equaly well..well runs fine on my desire..and also i had an hd2 before and used fpsece which supported(and still does) hw acceleration..and run great on hd2 (has snapdragon chip, same as htc desire)..could get 40+fps on tekken 3...which is brillian (does not even run in psx4droid)..
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Don't worry about that...psx4droid does not yet support hardware acceleration so all graphics are rendered from the CPU , not the GPU...so they should play it equaly well..well runs fine on my desire..and also i had an hd2 before and used fpsece which supported(and still does) hw acceleration..and run great on hd2 (has snapdragon chip, same as htc desire)..could get 40+fps on tekken 3...which is brillian (does not even run in psx4droid)..
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Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
ascottuk said:
Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
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i think we have crappy drivers for our gpu too, the acer liquid has the same gpu but with a cpu that runs at a lower clockspeed, but apparently the 3d rendering on that device surpasses our device
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i think we have crappy drivers for our gpu too, the acer liquid has the same gpu but with a cpu that runs at a lower clockspeed, but apparently the 3d rendering on that device surpasses our device
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no they do not have a standard snapdragon..
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Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
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Truly no idea..the guy is taking it deadly slow..Kiss Yorkshire goodnight from me had a trip 3 years ago and it was the sweetest town ever..
ascottuk said:
Hi guys
I recently got hold of a Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, and i have to say im rather dissapointed.
The lag issue, which none of the lag fixes really actually stop, is so annoying, GPS not working as im one of the unfortunate people who have this issue is another annoyance
The screen is fantastic however, and the music player is aweseome with its equilizer.
However i use my phone for numerous things, media is one thing, GPS also as i dont see the need to buy a seperate sat nav when my phone "should have it",
Now i am going to wait until the official Froyo release from samsung before making any decision.
Right stop my moaning and here are my questions
i have been offered in exchange a sim Free Desire, plus a 16gb Class 6 sdcard, all boxed.
The one thing that worries me about going down the Desire route is how long is this handset gonna last.
Looking at benchmarks the i9000 creams the desire (with lag fix) in pretty much everything, i know this is down to the pretty poor Adreno 200 GPU on snapdragon as linpack shows the snapdragon FPU is better, Quadrant over 2200 currently on my SGS
in gaming terms for the future how long is this gonna last? can i expect games that are released in 6 months from now to run flawlessly? i know its hard for people to see into the future! but NEed for speed seems to run pretty much identically to my SGS, so im wondering if its all down to optimization on both chipsets
also gingerbread? a definate yes? or have HTC still not announced if Desire will be getting it
Samsung wont give any answers on this whatsoever
Also what would you guys do?
The samsung guys say "stay with it" but i want opinions from both camps
Cheers
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id say go for the desire, just won t3 awards phone of the year
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no they do not have a standard snapdragon..
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thats my point!! they have the same gpu running with a 768mhz cpu, and there gpu can do 3D better than ours, read this thread started about overclocking our gpu.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8553534#post8553534

Xperia S performance

Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
Option58 said:
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
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IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
dixter said:
IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
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Yeah, well I have Xperia Miro now (official ICS, 800 Mhz single core), it lags but does the job. And when I tried HTC phone in store (ICS, 600 Mhz) it was like very smooth, really slow processor but smoother than mine. So I am not satisfied with Sony's software at all.
But I tried Xperia P in store and it seemed smooth. Also do you have touchscreen issues like I have on Miro?
But considering Miro is low end, I thought Xperia S is way smoother.
Anybody else, cyanogenmod?
all lags its because a lot of blotware is preinstalled on phone...
i have stock .55 rom with RooT (locked BL), via TB deleted unused system apps and LOW of blotware ( TB backup have 220MB) and phone runs really smoth... + another launcher (im using apex), and its best of...
Well yes. But can somebody answer me other questions please?
About playing 1080p MKV movies : Yes, but you will face with a big problem that any file which has over 4Gb can not be transfered to the phone.
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Go for ACRO S. It's little better than Xperia S in-case of battery back up. Rest is same. And some MKV files of 1080p may face trouble while syncing between sound and video.
Option58 said:
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
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latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...
m1st3r1 said:
latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...
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Thats the answer I was looking for...Thanks
Actually, I go to high school
I think I will go for Xperia T because of better camera, GPU...And similar price ;D
One last question because T and S have same CPU - No CPU related bugs? Will I be able to run latest unofficial android updates smoothly for a very long time?
Do I really need Quad core for anything?
Thanks guys
I don't think anyone really needs quadcore realistically
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The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.
zn533 said:
The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.
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Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?
Option58 said:
Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?
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Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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m1st3r1 said:
Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?
Option58 said:
What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?
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Mx player plays all of the 1080p videos. Never had any message saying file not supported.
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