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I have a problem with my rooted One X that on close up objects the camera can not focus on the subject, this makes barcode scanner apps useless they simply do not work anymore,
Camera shots at normal distance focus properly
Any help?
I get the same problem. The camera gets a sharp picture, then refocuses, gets a sharp pic.. refocuses!
It never sets itself & stays on the sharp picture.. always trys again!
Very frustrating.
try to use digital zoom then pull out
hamdir said:
try to use digital zoom then pull out
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This seems to do something it certainly makes it better , still nit great though
@Op,
This is actualy normal.
Every lens has a minimal distance it still can autofocus.
Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
This is actualy normal.
Every lens has a minimal distance it still can autofocus.
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Not true all my other phones focus much better than this . When I first git phone it worked .even my friends cheap huwaei focuses better on near objects . Something is broken
Not true?
I do have some experience with photography, like I said every lens has a minimal distance for autofocus.
You can read that in every manual of a new lens.
It's called 'min. focus distance'
stoke1863 said:
Not true all ny tiger phones focus much better than thus . When I first git phone it worked .even my friends cheap huwaei focuses better on near objects . Something is broken
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Laurentius26 said:
Not true?
I do have some experience with photography, like I said every lens has a minimal distance for autofocus.
You can read that in every manual of a new lens.
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Sorry i replied on my ohone and autospell failed! The phone USE to focus on the barcodes perfectly fone but now it does not!
My other phones can focus on these barcodes fine but now my ONE X does not
I have noticed, that HOX is almost never focusing on close object (even 20cm from the lens) if there is a distant background. Touch to focus or macro mode doesn't help. Try to make macro shot of the flower while the window view will be your background.
hamdir said:
try to use digital zoom then pull out
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But the barcode apps dont offer the possibility for digital zoom
focus problem
I have the same problem, i used to have a sensation XE just prior to my One X and the short distance focusing was about 7 - 8 cm or even less sometimes. the one x is nowhere near this distance and overall quality (as opposed as to what was advertised) is not extraordinary
i made a topic about this months ago but everyone's against it.
The HOX have much longer min focus distance, i'm disappointed because this has a f2.0 lens but it cant focus as near as my XL with f2.2 lens so the bokeh in macro shot is much much smaller even when compare to the XE f2.8, and alot of image compression which degrade the quality ALOT.
It's not broken, it's just designed that way
Try Camera 360 app. Its free and comes with lots of filters. One thing it does better than stock camera is focusing better on closer objects like the OP mentioned.
Hi, anyone found a solution? Still I can't use barcode scanner (was perfect before android 4.2.2 update I think)...
Everyone knows the weakness behind our Back Camera.. but does everyone know how POWERFUL our front facing camera is? I bet you didn't know you can crank the ISO to 12446 on the front facing camera
You can now take selfies in almost pitch black rooms (and come out grainy, but visible).
Inside the "Selfie" mode, click on EV +2 and go into a dark room.
Your image will automatically being super grainy but you'll be able to see yourself like no other!
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Everyone knows the weakness behind our Back Camera.. but does everyone know how POWERFUL our front facing camera is? I bet you didn't know you can crank the ISO to 12446 on the front facing camera
You can now take selfies in almost pitch black rooms (and come out grainy, but visible).
Inside the "Selfie" mode, click on EV +2 and go into a dark room.
Your image will automatically being super grainy but you'll be able to see yourself like no other!
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It worked...night vision now?
Isn't that an awesome trick?! I love it!
im_high_tech said:
Isn't that an awesome trick?! I love it!
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Yes...it's weird it only works on front camera and not on regular one...but yeah! Takes photos on pitch black room
Does anyone know if the rear facing camera has an IR filter on it? That may explain this, because if the rear facing camera has a filter but the selfie one does not, the selfie camera will let in more "light", and use ambient IR to illuminate your face slightly more. That's just my best guess.
Joren.ideas said:
Does anyone know if the rear facing camera has an IR filter on it? That may explain this, because if the rear facing camera has a filter but the selfie one does not, the selfie camera will let in more "light", and use ambient IR to illuminate your face slightly more. That's just my best guess.
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The reason you can do this with the front is because the camera used is exactly the 4UP sensor from the M8 which has larger pixels for better low light performance
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the OnePlus 3T performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
If light is very good, acceptable selfies. Indoors, even with good light, usually very blurry shots
Indoors, nothing but TV for light and taken straight from Allo
At low light in front of my monitor:
beautify mode of the cam/app is the best, makes my ugly face so sweet !
for real, its pretty decent (the front cam).
With 16mp front camera the photos look crisp and sharp. Nothing bad to say about it.
Seems fine with or without beauty mode it's almost same for me
absolutely amazing with the 16m front camera
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I recently went on a trip with a selfie stick...front facing camera turned out to be pretty bad...they all turned out kind of like this one:
https://goo.gl/photos/cpev9cRgS4TEnhQs8
Some look better than others, but everything looks soft and out of focus...is this normal?
sm753 said:
I recently went on a trip with a selfie stick...front facing camera turned out to be pretty bad...they all turned out kind of like this one:
https://goo.gl/photos/cpev9cRgS4TEnhQs8
Some look better than others, but everything looks soft and out of focus...is this normal?
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The front facing camera has fixed focus, made so that the subject is in focus when the phone is at arms length. this photo looks like it was taken with a selfie stick so you were not in focus.
yohouse2 said:
The front facing camera has fixed focus, made so that the subject is in focus when the phone is at arms length. this photo looks like it was taken with a selfie stick so you were not in focus.
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Well that explains it...are you aware of any work around for this? I imagine the limitation is the software.
sm753 said:
Well that explains it...are you aware of any work around for this? I imagine the limitation is the software.
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I believe that it it a hardware limitation, so I'm not sure how a software upgrade or any workaround might help significantly. Maybe you might want to try the back camera instead or use the front camera at arms length, or be somehow lucky to find a clip-on lens that can either increase the camera's field while somehow still keeping the correct focus distance or a clip-on lens that will correct the focus when the device is on the selfie stick.
Good!
The front camera is really good. Clean and bright selfies. Love it.
Amazing, outstanding camera quality...
Such a awesome phone. It have best camera that is very useful for taking high resolution selfies.
low light sux
Well lit ok
Camera driver
How to develop camera driver? What are the things one should know for device driver development?
Daisy should have second rear 5MPx camera but I dont think that is even used, it feels like just a hole. Doesnt help for bokeh, in low ligh, for zooming. If I covered it image was the same. Anyone knows when this camera take any effect?
same problem, bad front camera experience
itsaazim said:
same problem, bad front camera experience
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next time please read post before you write some unrelated text
I think so too
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
hossman said:
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
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Im not so sure in my case:laugh::laugh::laugh:
edit:same for dual back camera
With the stock camera app, it does work correctly. Perhaps you should contact warranty...
The portrait mode that focus only on what is close must be a proof that the second camera works, right?
If you cover the second camera in potrait mode in stock cam app, you will see that it is not working properly anymore
the 2nd camera only there to enhance DOF information
not to actually take a picture.
front camera is also able to fake the DOF but its slower and not so accurate when compared to the rear camera
hossman said:
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
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This works for me! Thanks. I don't know why others doubt their smartphones
i also use this model and i think that secondary dual cam is just for show off it does not do any thing. its a mimic only for branding purpose.
So many people have no idea what they bought.
The first sensor is a 12MPx Sony sensor (bottom one) that captures standard photos, in focus.
The second sensor is a 5MPx Samsung sensor (top one) that analyzes the whole frame and returns RAW depth data for the camera app to process, to bring a better blur effect for the portrait mode.
This is a bonus to the classic software portrait mode, it helps. It's not useless, and it's not for show off.
The fact that it doesn't work as good in dark environment is because the Samsung sensor is cheap and can't give enough data in darkness.
Now, let's see when both cameras work at the same time (not applicable on this device):
- when the secondary sensor is black and white, this helps the pictures get more dynamic range
- when the secondary sensor is the same as the other sensor, this is used for 3D imaging (chech HTC 3D)
Now when 2 modules work independently and can be switched via software:
- when the main lens are normal and the other lens are wide lens
- when the main lens are normal and the other lens are zoom lens
Now, our device doesn't fit in either of the above categories and the best way to use the Portrait mode is to use a ToF sensor, but baring in mind the price of our device the ToF sensor was replaced with a standard, low quality camera sensor from Samsung.
So I noticed that the zoom lens only activates at 5x zoom. You can see this by covering the lens with your finger and zooming in.
I gather this must mean that the optical 4x lens is fixed at 4x, but as it only kicks in at 5x zoom you can never get 4x optical zoom shots as it is cropped to 5x ?
This would also mean that up to 5x zoom you are just getting a digital crop of the main lens?
Am I missing something here? Seems a little weird that you cant get a 4x optical shot with a 4x optical lens fitted.
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So I noticed that the zoom lens only activates at 5x zoom. You can see this by covering the lens with your finger and zooming in.
I gather this must mean that the optical 4x lens is fixed at 4x, but as it only kicks in at 5x zoom you can never get 4x optical zoom shots as it is cropped to 5x ?
This would also mean that up to 5x zoom you are just getting a digital crop of the main lens?
Am I missing something here? Seems a little weird that you cant get a 4x optical shot with a 4x optical lens fitted.
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Googles periscope lens doesn't kick in a "fixed" manner, it uses an algorithm (ambient light, shaking, distance to object etc) to decide "on its own" when to kick in the dedicated zoom lens. You can easily test this out/replicate this by lowering the light in your room/and or change your distance to your desired object and see that the point where periscope lens kicks in, changes.
Best just try to focus on the amount of details you can see, if you play around with it, you can quickly see through the Preview when periscope kicks in, since that will improve the amount of details in your preview window significantly.
Many people here want "fixed" values, but as of now, Google doesn't offer that.
This is also a big problem in reviews, since those people don't know about this limitation and you can often see a "here, 4x shot, not looking good" and my eyes tell me "jea, that's a digital crop, you m*ron" and none are the wiser.
So your saying you never know whether you will get a crop or an optical zoom shot at 4x, this makes the 4x lens pointless imho.
Google are basically stopping you using a feature of the phone whenever you want. If every zoom shot is a gamble on cropped or optical, decided by the phone, surely they are stopping you from getting the best performance from the camera every shot/zoom length.
If I choose a 4x shot I want optical every time or I may as well have bought the 6 instead of the pro and saved some money.
The deciding factor on whether it's digital zoom or the telephoto lens is the distance of the object. I estimate the telephoto lens minimum focus distance is around 4 feet. As you go between close and far objects, you can see the stutter between the digital 4x and telephoto 4x. You could always cover the either the main lens or telephoto and figure it out too. What they really need to do is add an icon in the camera app that lets you know it's 4x digital zoom or 4x telephoto.
This isn't something that's only unique to the 6 Pro.
EeZeEpEe said:
What they really need to do is add an icon in the camera app that lets you know it's 4x digital zoom or 4x telephoto.
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This. I think that's the best solution for now, let people know what they have at the moment.
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So your saying you never know whether you will get a crop or an optical zoom shot at 4x, this makes the 4x lens pointless imho.
Google are basically stopping you using a feature of the phone whenever you want. If every zoom shot is a gamble on cropped or optical, decided by the phone, surely they are stopping you from getting the best performance from the camera every shot/zoom length.
If I choose a 4x shot I want optical every time or I may as well have bought the 6 instead of the pro and saved some money.
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The threshold in the HAL is at about 4.3x provided that all the other requirements for the switch are met. You can see the image "jump" slightly when it crosses the threshold because the image characteristics do not match perfectly. So yes, you can definitely tell which sensor it is using.
The reason why they don't alert you to which sensor it is using is because they (gooble) think they're smarter than you and better able to pick the right sensor.
Another thing to keep in mind is if the 4x telephoto was the default, anything too close would be immediately blurry. Then how do you switch to a digital zoom?
They could just give us a way of selecting the lens in use manually. Instead of treating us all like idiots.
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They could just give us a way of selecting the lens in use manually. Instead of treating us all like idiots.
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Good luck with that. Truly given the way the entire world is being run right now, its pretty clear that the vast majority of people *ARE* idiots. And that is putting it mildly. So best way to make money is to sell to the majority, who are stupid enough to trust government -- those people clearly can't think for themselves.
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So your saying you never know whether you will get a crop or an optical zoom shot at 4x, this makes the 4x lens pointless imho.
Google are basically stopping you using a feature of the phone whenever you want. If every zoom shot is a gamble on cropped or optical, decided by the phone, surely they are stopping you from getting the best performance from the camera every shot/zoom length.
If I choose a 4x shot I want optical every time or I may as well have bought the 6 instead of the pro and saved some money.
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yes, return your pro and get the 6. be happier.
It's worse on video. I took a supposedly 4x video of my dog and it looks terrible. Pixelated, oversharpened and unusable.
MacGuy2006 said:
It's worse on video. I took a supposedly 4x video of my dog and it looks terrible. Pixelated, oversharpened and unusable.
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Do you have 4k60fps enabled?
For some odd reason, Google only allows the dedicated sensors to kick in if you use 30fps, since both the ultrawide and Tele module do not support 4k60fps.
So if you zoom in whilst having 4k60fps enabled, it will always be a digital zoom.
This is one of the most annoying features. The 4x lense can focus as reasonably close range but the "ai" deciding to either crop and main lense or switch to the periscope is crap.
You can trick it by switching to 4x and focusing on a distant object and back again and hope it's just within range.
People ask why use it so close, but the 4x can really aid in composing a shot without the wide distortions.
Another issue is if you adjust anything like HDR or temperature on the main lense and switch focal length to other options it doesn't switch to the actual lense you want anymore!!
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It's worse on video. I took a supposedly 4x video of my dog and it looks terrible. Pixelated, oversharpened and unusable.
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You can't use the telephoto sensor for video. Only the other two.
86rickard said:
This is one of the most annoying features. The 4x lense can focus as reasonably close range but the "ai" deciding to either crop and main lense or switch to the periscope is crap.
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In my book, that's an idiotic "feature" and is in fact a bug.
It makes zooming in day-to-day use unusable in most common cases.
When I zoomed to 4x and took a video, the result (1080) was not usable. It's a joke.
I think the conclusion here is the entire camera system really needs work. The hardware is better but the software is letting it down. Jerky transitions, bugs and a processing algorithm left over from the lower quality sensor days that actually over works the 50mp images.
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You can't use the telephoto sensor for video. Only the other two.
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No, you can. I just tested it by setting it to 4x, making sure I'm focused on something far enough, and blocking the telephoto lens does block the picture.
Just discussing this elsewhere, with regard to the MWP GCam mod. This is a *serious* improvement over the stock app; the one thing they could do to make it perfect is give you control over when the periscope kicks in. If anyone here knows the people working on this, please mention this. The mod is here, btw — you really should try it! The version you want is 8.3.252-V1c_MWP:
MWP GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by MWP.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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Just discussing this elsewhere, with regard to the MWP GCam mod. This is a *serious* improvement over the stock app; the one thing they could do to make it perfect is give you control over when the periscope kicks in. If anyone here knows the people working on this, please mention this. The mod is here, btw — you really should try it! The version you want is 8.3.252-V1c_MWP:
MWP GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by MWP.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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That may not actually be an option. The hal only presents one logical camera on that side of the phone and transparently switches between the sensors based on the level of zoom requested, and an assortment of other data.
I haven't looked into what the hal looks like, is it open source? If it is, presumably it could be modified to present 3 or 4 logical cameras (I.e. 3 individual + 1 combined).
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Just discussing this elsewhere, with regard to the MWP GCam mod. This is a *serious* improvement over the stock app;
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How is it an improvement?
Testing zoom, it still uses the main lens on 1x, 2x ad 4x. Just like the stock camera does.
This is another reason to dislike this phone and to recommend against buying it.