I sure hope this is the correct forum for this post. If it is not please excuse me for improper placing.
Way back when in 2007 I purchased an HTC Tytn and immediately found this website and was able to unlock the Tytn and was able to successfully upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional - I believe I also upgraded my antena as well. I also found some cool weather app or something.
Since then I have not messed with the phone at all - in actuality it has been inactive for large periods of time. Well fast forward to 2009 and I am looking to upgrade this to 6.1 or 6.5.
There seems to be a plethora of options and posts out there - could anyone point me to a good stable working upgrade? As well as advice on any new cool APPS / Programs that they would recommend - that may have been developed in the past 1.5 yrs?
I thank you for your time in advanced.
Upgrading to 6.1 or 6.5
Good morning,
Well, you're probably going to be flashing a lot, since there are many new builds available since you've been gone. You'll find there is not going to be one that is an overwhelming recommendation, as much is personal preference.
That said, before you do anymore flashing, make sure you have the hardspl done and also that you have downloaded a stripped ROM, both of which you can find many places here.
There doesn't seem to be much difference between standard 6.0 and 6.1. I would suggest trying a few of the 6.5 builds, they are much more exciting and add new life to our phones. TAI_Sw has been churning out more ROMS than McDonalds has hamburgers lately - I would try one of those first.
You'll notice the today screen is much different, the interface is called Titanium - I personally don't like it, so the first thing I do is go into Settings, Today, and take that out and check the items I like. Besides the Titanium, some of the ROMS have Manilla, which is another cool option, and FCW has a newer ROM with a PointUI cooked in, another neat interface.
Bottom line, I believe you'll be happier with 6.5, which build is purely a personal choice. In any event, have fun flashing over and over until you find something you're happy with.
Best Regards.
Well I thank you for your reply. I have acquired the HARDSPL download from the sticky. As for the stripped rom - I seem to be lost at this point I have done a few searches but have not come up with much. Is this stripped rom specific to your carrier/provider? I am with a Canadian Carrier Rogers Wireless - I did see Tai_Sw reference a stripped rom for At&T. Hmmm?
Thoughts? Thanks for the heads up on WM 6.5 - I will definately narrow my focus to the 6.5 variety (just got to sift through the thousands of posts - to find a download for 6.5)
6.5 Links
I would stick to the first two pages of posts, that is if you're sorting your posts by the most recent activity. Read the comments toward the end of each post to see if there have been any problems with a specific ROM. I don't think it would be a problem using the AT&T stripped ROM, as you're immediately going to flash another, so carrier settings are not important.
I've played with 6.5 a little bit. Had it on my 8525 for a few days. It always feels slow in comparison to 6.1 for me. It takes a lot of memory to run. Keep in mind that it is still in beta at Microsoft, so anything you flash is going to have bugs, regardless of the tremendous talents of the chefs here.
The IE in WM6.5 is REALLY slow. There have been a few complaints about that and I concure. If you want fast and stable, I'd stick with 6.1 for a little while longer. I'm sure 6.5 will be much better when Microsoft finalizes it (or at least hits release candidate status). For now though, it is just too BUGGY.
Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.
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Also, 6.5 probably has a time limit on it right now. I'm guessing it won't go away till someone finds it and removes the time limit, or when 6.5 comes out of beta.
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on the other hand theres some good things coming out of 6.5 now and the official release is due soon so as for the timebomb built in there shouldnt be a problem. dispite its bugs i think 6.5 is a worthy upgrade and will become better as time goes on and new builds come out for us to play with.
Can you upgrade and then downgrade?
Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?
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Ive just started flashing for the first time (ive already successfully flashed two 6.1 roms) and i have a question about upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. Once you upgrade to 6.5 can you easily go back to 6.1 just by flashing a 6.1 rom? I know it seems like a simple question but ive looked around and havent seen any answers to it yet. Also, is flashing the 6.5 rom just the same as flashing a 6.1 rom or is there something else i would need to do?
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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).
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It's all the same. You can flash any rom you want (as long as you have hardspl!).
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thanks! just flashed a 6.5 rom on my touch pro and it rocks!
the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions
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the time-limit on WM6.5 is true. i am currently using WM6.5 on a Treo750 and last week I noticed (with a lot of others) that this version of WM6.5 will stop functioning on 01-july 2009!
Hopefully we can find a 'way-around' this...
I am open for suggestions
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we also should have the official soon. its finished at least now wont see a new phone with it on till september but we should have it very soon.
upgrading from WM6.1 to 6.5
so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??
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so would anyone recommend flashing a 6.5 ROM on a sprint HTC touch pro??
and how would i go about doing it??
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I really wouldn't flash a hermes rom to it! Might need to do a bit more research first!
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dear guys, i know you are the best in upgrading our smartphones, do you know if there is, or soon will be an upgrade to wm6.1 for s620???
tnx
Not yet.. but I think that soon it will come to S620.
We are all waiting for this update
I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican
JAmerican said:
I actually got to play with a Windows Mobile 6.1 Dash but it still seemed to lag a fair amount. Just had a flashier home screen. Everything seemed to be the same. They added Copy and Paste as well.
JAmerican
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Oh man that's great news!!! I am excited. At least that confirms that there is a very high chance we will have to upgrade. Hopefully it will become more stable and not have memory leaks.
Thanks Jamerican....
did you check the new PIE how is it, does it have flash???
How about threaded sms like the PPC version has??
i'm actually really curious about wm6.1 too. I know it's out already, so where are the ROMs at? BTW, does anyone have access to HTC's downloads for the S620-621? When I attempted to register my unit with the serial # at their site, it wouldn't let me since it knew it was T-Mo Dash instead.
EDIT: well a quick search on google yielded this interesting result:
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13800
I guess that's why we're not seeing any wm6.1 devices anytime soon...
even so, here at xda-developers you can see upgrades to 6.1 for some devices, so i guess we´ll just have to wait a little bit, but its going yo be here i´m sure
Google is your friend. Many websites have covered the new WM6.1 features. Basically it comes out to these:
* Threaded SMS - A Chat like function for your SMS Inbox
* Zoom out in Pocket IE - Enables Page overview mode and better navigation
* One Note included in Office Mobile
* Running Programs tab in Settings > Memory replaced to a better Task Manager. (But the previous running programs tab was much simple and easier)
* A new Managed Programs menu
As you can see, no mention of flash incorporation in PIE. Personally, I won't upgrade until it is as fast as the HTC ROM I'm using now. I am, however, really excited about threaded SMS.
wm6.1 does exist for the dash.
Lets put it this way. People have HTC excalibur running wm6.1. 6.1 adds a new home screen, better IE (much better IE), copy & paste, new version of active sync, etc, etc. WM6.1 is also faster. I'm not sure when this will be avaliable to everyone... but it does exist.
Actually I tried it at a M$ event at my school. The lady said it would take at least 10 months for consumers to see it. That does not include carrier customization etc. Pissed me off.
JAmerican
How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait
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How come the Wing users have the 6.1 and not us! When I had the Wing the 6.1 made it SOOO much better....sucks having to wait
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Yup, i'll vouch for this. I have open touch v3 on my wing and love it. Sometimes i like to go out with my dash since its slimmer and wow its like night and day how slow it is. Even with the new HTC rom that was posted...
Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused
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Am I missing something here? When did the Wing get a system that isnt released yet? I am confused
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WM 6.1 is alive and well on the PPC platform. First batch of WM 6.1 Professional ROMs hit the scene about a week and a half ago and I may be wrong about this but I believe the wing (HTC Herald) was the first to get it from our fine chefs here on XDA-DEV. Still waiting on a 6.1 Standard version for our favorite non-touchscreen devices (HTC Excalibur etc)...
Also don't forget that fortunately/unfortunately the touchscreen devices are way more popular than the non-touchscreen devices.
Personally I believe my T-Mobile Dash running the HTC ship rom is way more stable than any other Windows Mobile device I have ever owned, and I've had quite a few as can be seen in my sig.
Thats interesting, I had no idea!
I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?
Microsoft Is Coming Out With An Official 6.1 Version For The Excalibur Very Soon
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I don't want to waste time flashing my Dash with a cooked 6.0 ROM (HTC ROM) if 6.1 is only a few weeks away. Any estimate from the ROM cookers on a 6.1 release for the Dash?
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This is good news to my ears, I had no ideal that Microsoft was coming out with a official released for the Excalibur very soon...........!
Haha, yeah good thing I didn't waste my time with a cooked 6.0 ROM...
This ever happed?
WM 6.1 for S621, Excalibur?
Official ROM release?
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
DUH ?!?! unbelievable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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use a kitchen and cook one yourself, that or quit whining and look through the roms here and give them a try.
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i have been doing that since friday and since my exprertise is not coding, or cooking i thought i better ask before i brick my phone.
didnt really expect a huge repsonce but being pishy about it isnt what i expected either.
The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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The link I provided is the easiest ROM cooker there is.
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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thanks i will give it a try. Last time i tried something like this was slipstreaming a full OS build onto a machine that died on me. so im not overtly confident
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sorry but im a windows point and click guy and In not confident enough to do any cooking. its not as easy as a slipstream and i aint riskign my phone to play with it.
ill go back to WM5.
at least i know it works and doesnt bring my phone to a complete halt
Thanks for those of you who helped
dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some updates, for some reason he doesn't seem to want to provide updates to his latest Beta for 6.1.
There are a few other good full roms but its all about what you want to use the device for, I also just need a clean one not one that a chef has put all their fave apps in which bloats the build, I'm currently trying out the Shadow one which seams ok at the moment, main reason for that choice was that it states he has tweaked the bluetooth, what he's done I don't know..
and saying you've been searching since Friday... some of us have been searching for the wholy grail of ROMS for a while, I too am not a coder and don't want to brick my rom, no matter how good the destructions are, they invariably will be for the non uber geeks amongst us
Yes don't go to WM5. WM6 is much stable, dependable and you can find some good ROMs here. Though not officially launched, people here are cooking for WM6.1. It feels a bit strange to see you are going back to WM5.
Firstly decide the use of your Herms device.
Check out the applications the chefs are offering in their ROMs or you can use a clean ROM and instal cabs afterwards if you donot want to cook or expert in doing for yourself. It all depends on your personal preferences, but I feel you should not give preference to WM5 over WM6.
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dont run away so quickly, there are some decent roms in this forum, just have a look around, SCHAPS has some good one,s go for an earlier clean WM6 though one that's been hammered, and has some upda....
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I am tryin shaps 4.31 lit now.
im searching for windows live and htc home latest versioons so i can load them up.
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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It doesn't have the 'latest and greatest', but hey, often the latest is not the greatest either...
Take a look at D-Lite and SuperD-Light.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010&highlight=superd-light
has anyone noticed how much slower wm6 runs on the 8525? I have two friends who purchased 8525's after I did, and theirs run much quicker with the old wm5 roms on them. Mine looks cooler, and has better functionality, but it seems to hang for extended amounts of time sometimes. Like when I'm replying to a text message, or just sliding the keyboard out, waiting for the screen to change into lanscape mode.
Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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Windows 6.1 seems alot faster. you might try looking into one of the 6.1 lites. I'm useing pays with some luck
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
krismcewan said:
All i need is a simple basic working rom and links to programs that i want.
I like some of the roms here but alot are over complicated with programs i would never need or want.
A basic WM6 with a tweak program and the , MSN, HTC and Office Patches all up to date wouild suffice. (oh and doesnt take up 80% of the storage card)
anyone point me in that direction please
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You may not quite get that combination but one of the numerous lite ROMs on the board may well suit.
Myself I'd recommend using Mattk_r's Pandora 6 (WM6.0, not WM6.1) and using the 3.60 Big Storage ROM. Very nice, stable combination. That way you can add in just a couple of things.
WM 6.0 Kitchen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881
Or you could just use his 'Naked' ROM for 6.0 and add just a tweak prog from a cab.
WM 6.0 Naked ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351274
I went up to the Pandora Naked 7 Kitchen and 'naked' ROM (still WM6.0) for a while then into the 6.1 'naked' ROM and kitchen with Pandora 8 & 9. Now I'm back with the 6.0 Kitchen and the 3.60 Big Storage ROM.
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i coulndt get pays one to run. the loader kept crashing.
i am using Schaps 4.31 but its really really slow
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I ran Schaps 4.01 Full for a while without too many problems, I have just installed this one, as a base ROM, there are a few minor issues with the launcher app but I don't use it anyway http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118 seems reasonably fast can't comment on stability as I've only had it installed for an hour or so.
If you don't want all the tweaks and apps the ROM is offering just do a soft reset after you align the screen. Be sure to get a connection wizard then just pick and choose the apps you want. If you want a .CAB for something PM the person that has the ROM and ask for it.
I have been running the shaps 4.31 and although i like it its very very slow.
it keeps freezing and it takes ages to do anything.
I know no one believes me when i say i had less problems with WM5 but its that bad im seriously considering it.
I still have no way of putting the pays rom on as the loader always crashes.
Anyone else got a 6.1 rom that they recomend i can try.
try vp3g's it's very stable and not too many extras
Dear member,
I am new to this rom update. I am confused with many rom available for updating WM6 to wm6.1. I am using At&t 8525-wm6. Now i want to update it to wm6.1. Can any one please help with the best rom link to download and update my 8525 os.
I am using HP laptop with vista ultimate-32bit.
Thanks in advance.
Krishna
"the best rom" is all preference really, you should try them out and see which one works best for you etc.
im using CrC's rom, however people are having troubles with V10 so go for v9 in my opinion however other people have other views.
I tried crcs and farias r32 wm6.1,, I think wm6 is better to tytn, cos wm6.1 needs more ram.. and the device cant work well with multitasks..
now I´m using schaps wm6 4.31. and its better than all wm6.1 in my opinion
bye
I definately agree with sebastianmc. Schaps WM6 (4.31) is one of the best roms available. My suggestion is to steer clear of WM6.1 ROMs since they tend to be buggy and if you still have hair in your head, you'd be ripping them off a hand full at a time.
Schaps is supposedly going to release his WM6.1, so hang tight and give it a shot when it is posted here.
Thanks for the question and the answers. I have been running JJ's Black Magic ROM since way back and it is still going strong on my device. But am feeling the urge to jump to a new ROM. I will try Schaps 4.31 and see. I will wait for a 6.1 ROM.
Thank you
Dear Members,
Thanks for the valuable information. I am going to install Schap's wm6 Pro 4.31 on my 8525. Is Schap's wm6.1 final version released?
Well I had Schwaps, (sp) 4.31 on my phone for months without a single issue.
Until I was getting random deaths with my Bluetooth GPS and TomTom, then I was getting hard times to answer the phone, would hit answer and it would still ring 2 or 3 times before I could get it. Probably just from being stale in my phone for months with dozens of apps installed and removed.
I changed to the latest CRC release and was loving it, until this AM the phone was locked up completely. It was so locked I did a hard reset on it. I did stay with the CRC. Its a great rom. I love the speed of it, I really like the way it handles SMS messages, ah hell I like everything about it.
Only draw backs is that it is not a "loaded" app. There is no office, no games, no big clock on your desktop. You have to add all that stuff in later. Ands it appears to be a game of Russian roulette when you hit the button to install.
I would browse around all the roms, even do a quick install of a few and play with them for a day. If you don't like it change to a new one.
I am in the same boat as you , I want, I need, a rom that has all the windows bells and whistles with office. Pocket Rar would be good. Windows Audio player would be good. Ah well I am going to keep searching.
Thank you for ur advice mr . it was helpful .. the question now is did u find something better as u said coz i am looking for something as u do
Shadow CE
I don't know why you guys experience such headache with 6.1 ... I've tried every 6.1 posted and they had mostly all given me issues (mostly speed) .. But the one 6.1 rom that i daily use is Shadow CE . It's fast, reliable and never (seldomly) ever gives me issues .
I reboot once a week, sometimes less . with Shadow CE 6.1 ..
I use ShaDoW's rom too and I love it as far as 6.1 roms go. I haven't had to reboot it at all since I've had it on, ... wait a minute - yea I did, 1 time. Sorry, and I have been running it since it came out a while a go.
The only trouble I have with it is the MMS service. I don't use bluetooth or any of that other stuff though.
Its a very stable rom for 6.1. I've been trying a different 6.0 rom lately and miss ShaDoWs rom. Will be going back to it in the next day or so.
try this one....
i love it ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387516
but remember to flash this one first to avoid hard resets
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
also it may not be right for u if u use 3G or MMS
I love NFSFAN"s roms. He does such great work. I know in his knew v12 manilsa2D exists but, I personally don't care for the 6.5 roms. I'm not a great fan of the start menu system. Along with some other things. I'm starting a bounty with $50.00 to try to convince NFSFAN to update the WM6.1 rom for sprint. Hoping others may feel the same way. Please chime in with a donation, and see if we can get his attention.
Thanks For Looking ..... T M Z
I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.
Exactly, what is there left to do with 6.1? it's a dead end. everything new is with 6.5. why you dont like the start menu is beyond me. the old style start menu is so dumb and is one of the (if not the)number one complaints of WM. 6.5 is where it's at and the future. I'd be tempted to offer a bounty to NOT work on 6.1 anymore as that will stunt the developement and growth of 6.5 and 7 (hopefully very soon).. Most, if not all, the big name chefs have now finalized their 6.1 roms and moved on to 6.5. I would focus your bounty money on working out a custom start menu or whatever to fix what you dont like in 6.5 because it is so far superior to 6.1 it's not funny.
Wow. I hate 6.1 so much that I started using Android exclusively. Can't believe anyone would want a 6.1 ROM let along pay for it. Not trying to be rude. Just saying
I have tried 6.5 for a week and went back to 6.1
Phone was really slow and i find titanium plug-in really useless.
Start menu better in 6.5 then in 6.1 ? Maybe ....i use Quickmenu anyways!
So yea 6.1 rules !!
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I would be all for it as well. Not a big fan of 6.5 yet. But I think about the only thing that can be updated on 6.1 now is some of the apps. I think there has not been any new 6.1 sys released since the release of NSFAN's last 6.1 roms. I am so used to M2D now that I don't want to switch to a different UI until I get a new phone, and I don't know when that will be.
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NFSFANs 6.5 V12 ROM has Manila2D in it. 6.5 is way more finger friendly and has purdy icons too!
If the start menu in 6.5 is so "finger friendly", why do I keep launching applications when I am simply trying to scroll the list? There should be some dead space between the icons in the start menu, IMO. And I still think M2D in 6.5 defeats the purpose of 6.5. Titanium is the new interface with 6.5 and I am not that fond of it. To each his own. This is exactly why there is a thing called variety.
Try reflashing!
If you have problems with WM6.5's scrolling, I strongly suggest flashing the ROM 3 times in a row (wich should be done for any custom ROM to work well, btw).
The scrolling and response of the screen is 100 times better on WM6.5 than on 6.1.
You don't have to use Titanium, you simply take it off the Today screen items and use the built in manilla (touchflo).
The only difference will be that the start menu will have bigger icons (wich is more finger friendly and scrolls just as well as an iPhone) but the interface will look the same as with WM6.1 with manilla 2D. You can even use the reStart app. and organise your start menu just the way you prefer!
You should definitely give it another try! But remember to flash the 6.5 ROM 3 times and also, flash from a original 6.1 ROM and not from a custom one.
Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z
Sorry if you feel this is polution but the thing is, this thread shouldn't even exist if you understood what we mean:
WM6.5 is the updated WM6.1... They could have called it 6.1b if they wanted to...
Globaly, you should see this as an evolution of Windows Mobile 6. The 6.5 ROM is WM6 and any 6.X ROM is an evolution but is still WM6...
It's like if you told microsoft to keep supporting and improving Windows XP SP1 because you don't like what they did with SP2 or SP3... It is still Windows XP anyways...
Well WM6.5 is still WM6 just like WM6.1 was... You can do exactly the same things as with 6.1, but better.
You can decide not to upgrade to 6.5 if you wish, that is fine , but there is nothing more that can be improved in 6.1. If you want to make your ROM better than the actual 6.1, there is only one option: 6.5.
Once again, the only reason you had a bad experience is from bad installation of the 6.5 ROM. Just try and you'll see! Like my mom said to me: You'll thank me later...
Have you guys read the thread? All those issues with speed and response are solved by flashing to a stock ROM then flashing to NFSFAN's ROM. Ultimately choice is why we are all here so if 6.1 is your cup of tea then knock yourselves out.
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Hey guys. I notices i'm starting to get a debate here. That's not why I started this thread. I appreciate some of your guys advice, but believe me I have more than one 6900. One with 6.1 and one with 6.5. I do know the difference between them. The whole reason I started this thread is because my personal prefence is 6.1. I strongly believe there are others who feel the same way I do. I would really appreciate if we could stay on topic here. That is people that want to support and update for the 6.1 sprint rom. I just have to say to all others, if you would like to pm me with other suggestions that's fine, but please don't clog my thread up. I'm hoping toget support from you out there so we might be able to get a 6.1 update. Thanks everyone. T M Z
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And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.
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And again, your thread makes no sense. Again, what is there to upgrade on 6.1? As has been said, 6.5 IS the update of 6.1. If you don't like the update, then don't do it. Otherwise, make a list of what YOU want 6.5 to be and send that to Microsoft. Either live with 6.1 or go to 6.5, but there will be NO major revisions to 6.1 EVER again. As I said, it's dead and wasting developer time on it is detrimental to the evolution of our WM phones.
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Very well said
I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.
Neither 6.1 nor 6.5 UI is of interest to me (nor is TF2D) - I layer SPB Shell on top. Given that, I much prefer the stability of 6.1 over 6.5, and would love to see NFSFAN continue to update 6.1 - assuming there are still improvements to be made.
NFSFAN Roms are the best out there!
I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it
Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.
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6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked.
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I stopped flashing roms after Bell 1.31 just for the exact reason you mentioned. FAST, STABLE AND EVERYTHING WORKED Isn't that all we want? It took NFSFAN a long time of trial and error to reach NIRVANA with 6.1 and it will take a little bit of time to reach that same reliability with 6.5. Until then I will stay with 1.31. I think a lot of people just want the newest 6.5 roms because it is unique and they will sacrifice stability and live with a few things not working yet. I will wait until 6.5 is as reliable as the 1.31 before I flash it.
As for updating 6.1, I can see that it could be tweaked a little but I believe it has reached it limits of perfection.
D.
I'm going to weigh in here too. Like I mentioned in the 6.1 v. 6.5 poll, I stick with 6.1 so I can use my Redfly. I also find the 6.5 interface to be ugly, but like joemike, I use Spb MS3 as my interface. I have used NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM and it worked ok. The bluetooth wouldn't connect with my Redfly and the dialer had serious issues. About half the time I'd go to it, the numbers wouldn't show. The last time it happened was when I was on call and it was 1:30am. The next day I flashed back to the stock Verizon ROM. This is MY phone and MY issues, I don't in any way want to slam what NFSFAN has done! For my purposes, the current 6.1 ROM won't work for me.
Given all that biching ;-) I'd still like to use a custom ROM. My ideal ROM would be very clean, very minimal, fast and stable. I don't want touchflo, manilla, or any "today screen" programs, I use MS3. I'd like the stock bluetooth stack, Office Mobile apps, the CDMA smart dialer, .net 3.5 or 3.7, and that is about it. I don't know anything about cooking ROMs or what makes one fast and stable, but that is where I'd put the emphasis on rather than adding software that gets updated. Since this is my only phone and it needs to be available 24x7 I had to go back to stock, but I'm not done looking for the perfect 6.1 ROM. So far NFSFAN's has come the closest, but I need a couple of tweaks before it will replace the stock version.
However, if I see a new clean 6.1 from NFSFAN, I'll be flashing again ;-)
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I don't see why you guys have to bash him. He wanted to start a thread like this, in the hopes that I update 6.1. I told him that I will update it if it is worth my time, and there is more than just one request.
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Agreed, when I was posting every day in Nfsfan's vogue rom thread,
there were a few handfuls of people in his thread that asked about updating 6.1 roms.
I say to each his own.
If he wants 6.1, let him have 6.1
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I mean really is this a community or a mob? Cause I mean, if the guy likes 6.1 better then he does, it's his choice...Personally I love 6.1 more than 6.5 because it's more stable and has a better feel to it
So if you want to bash me as well then go ahead, but I will warn you....you will not like me at the end of it
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haha, quick, lets flood whosdaman's inbox with messages aobut how lame 6.1 is!!! lets go!!!
jmitr said:
Winmo6.1 versus 6.5 is not like xp sp1 versus xp sp2.
Winmo 6.0 and 6.1 are like XP
Winmo 6.5 is like Vista
Winmo 7.0 will be like, well Windows 7
Would everyone agree Vista is better than XP??
Yes 6.5 is more finger friendly, personally I like the new start menu, scrolling, and while not the best, the new PIE is a step up as well. I still prefer M2d to titanium and always will. HTC rocks, can't wait for sense or a qvga m2.5.
6.1 was stable, the last Bell 1.31 was ultra fast (dare I say faster than V12???), stable and everything worked. I am not sure if 1.31 has the "latest" or last 6.1 build number but the OS is not always the only part of a ROM. The parts are what makes up the whole. There has since been new versions of RSS, office, adobe, audio manager, camera, and M2D itself. Sure a guy could try and load up all the latest apps after digging all the latest cabs (if available, or cab up the oem's), but a new packaged 6.1 with all the latest updates that 6.5 offers would certainly appeal to some people.
There was a thread in the base Vogue forum called 6.1 or 6.5? Not many people chimed in there. Perhaps all this discussion would be better moved there and we could respect the original posters wishes of having this as a pledge thread only.
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I beg to differ, vista is horrible.
you can't compare 6.5 to it. haha
I am very satisfied with NFSFAN's WM 6.1 ROM and like the Manila 2D features on my Sprint Touch. Right now I'm still sitting on the fence regarding whether to upgrade to WM 6.5. I'd appreciate if someone could tell me or provide a link to the features that are exclusive to WM6.5. This will help me decide if these features are really an improvement to what I have now or I could do without.
Thanks for any and all responses.
2 words: Finger-friendly
I can't stand the 6.1 start menu and that is enough for me. But vibrate on touch, kinetic scrolling, and we are finally seeing the results of the 6.5 or 6.51 overhaul. For instance, the new calender and time picker as well as the new manila.
Try searching. WM 6.5 is probably the most talked about topic in mobile right now...
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Try searching. WM 6.5 is probably the most talked about topic in mobile right now...
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Nagrom, I think I will take the plunge this weekend and upgrade to 6.5. Now it is whether I should go with NFSFAN's rom or yours. Your phone and mine are the same, both Sprint Vogues.
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Nagrom, I think I will take the plunge this weekend and upgrade to 6.5. Now it is whether I should go with NFSFAN's rom or yours. Your phone and mine are the same, both Sprint Vogues.
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Both ROMs are great, but offer such different things, and it really depends on how much work you want to put into getting all the apps. Nag's is great if you want to take full control of all the apps, since its so nice and clean, but NFS's offers just enough to be fast and efficient while hooking you up with so much stuff you are going to want like Total Commander, PIM Backup, and a nice full QRTY.
Again, obviously totally up to you, but I think its worth flashing both (since it takes so little time) and seeing which makes you happier!
BTW, I'm pretty new to flashing custom ROMs I just finally realized my Vogue, even with 6.1 and M2D needed a second life. These ROMs really did the trick!
It's midnight here in Minnesota and I am sitting at my computer trying to figure out what step I missed in upgrading my Vogue to NFSFANS 6.5 ROM. The phone freezes every now and then and when I do a soft reset it is doing a full hard reset thus erasing all my information and apps. Good thing I have all my apps in my SD card so it's not a total loss. Also Dashwire helps me get all my contacts back.
I am going to read thru all the FAQs to see if anyone else has this issue.
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It's midnight here in Minnesota and I am sitting at my computer trying to figure out what step I missed in upgrading my Vogue to NFSFANS 6.5 ROM. The phone freezes every now and then and when I do a soft reset it is doing a full hard reset thus erasing all my information and apps. Good thing I have all my apps in my SD card so it's not a total loss. Also Dashwire helps me get all my contacts back.
I am going to read thru all the FAQs to see if anyone else has this issue.
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Reflash if you can. Try putting the phone into bootloader mode by using the camera+power+reset. It should say serial at the bottom, then plug it into the usb cable. If the screen changes to display USB, then flash away. Be mindful of making your desktop(laptop) computer run down with open and memory heavy programs. Other than there isn't much else to do. Did you already unlock your phone with the "coke unlocker"? Read here
I have followed the above steps to the letter and then saw a blurb in the FAQs that I need to reflash 3 times. After doing so, everything was working fine until this morning when I tested the soft reset to assure myself that all glitches are gone. Well unfortunately the phone did a hard reset and now it wont go beyond the date and time picker at initialization.
As per another advice, I am installing the custom ROM from HTC and then will try Nags basic 6.5. If that works, I will slowly add other customizations.
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I have followed the above steps to the letter and then saw a blurb in the FAQs that I need to reflash 3 times. After doing so, everything was working fine until this morning when I tested the soft reset to assure myself that all glitches are gone. Well unfortunately the phone did a hard reset and now it wont go beyond the date and time picker at initialization.
As per another advice, I am installing the custom ROM from HTC and then will try Nags basic 6.5. If that works, I will slowly add other customizations.
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Just an FYI, I remember reading about someone in the NFSFAN ROM forum having the same issue, so you should search in there and see if they cam up with a solution.
So here's what I did. I reinstalled the 6.1 htc rom from their website and then installed Nags 6.5 rom over it. It was very smooth and worked really well. No issues whatsoever. But since I had been using NFSFAN's 6.1 rom all this time, I decided to give his 6.5 another try. The flashing went well and as I type, there have been no reset issues. I probably reset over 20 times just to make sure everything was working properly.
Thanks to all for the responses. Don't know what fixed the problem, but I am enjoying my upgrade
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I am very satisfied with NFSFAN's WM 6.1 ROM and like the Manila 2D features on my Sprint Touch. Right now I'm still sitting on the fence regarding whether to upgrade to WM 6.5. I'd appreciate if someone could tell me or provide a link to the features that are exclusive to WM6.5. This will help me decide if these features are really an improvement to what I have now or I could do without.
Thanks for any and all responses.
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I never used his 6.1 rom but his 6.5 is aawwwsome its a definately yes upgrade, its faster, the scrolling is awsome, and the start menu as well. just do it...
I upgraded to 6.5 twice and still came back to 6.1 NFSFAN rom.
No advantage at all for 6.5 - just cosmetic. It's slower, you have to install bellserve on your own, and the handsfree doesn't work.
I'm staying with 6.1 for a while...
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I upgraded to 6.5 twice and still came back to 6.1 NFSFAN rom.
No advantage at all for 6.5 - just cosmetic. It's slower, you have to install bellserve on your own, and the handsfree doesn't work.
I'm staying with 6.1 for a while...
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That's a bummer. WM 6.5 with better touchflow is definitely an improvement over 6.1. I had reset issues with my upgrade, but they went away after trying several suggestions from the threads here. My provider is Sprint, so I'm not sure if my steps will fix the issues you are facing. Handsfree, GPS, bluetooth all are working for me.