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Guys,
the jasjar is capable of getting 1900mhz band but my question is can you mod the radio rom to use 1900 for UTMS instead of 2100?
i know its never been done but dosent mean its not possible unless some kind of hardware issue.
please let me know what you guys think, this would be a great hack so we in the USA using the Cingular network can have 3G
-1way
It's my understanding that while the Qualcomm chipset is capable of this, there are licensing implications, and the radio rom has never had the necessary software switches activated.
Also, there's going to be a hardware issue with necessary aerial for UMTS on that band missing I would assume.
well i see in the NETWORK/BAND area of the jasjar it says 1900PCS so i woudl think t he ant would be capable of getting a 1900 signal
can we take the radio rom from other cingular 3g devices and have one look at the "switches" to add then to a HTC universal radio rom?
this would be awesome as i am bummed out that my over 1,000 phone cant connect to 3g because cingular used 1900 instead of 2100..
why cant the world be standard already...
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[Cingular Blackjack Specs USA 3G]
# Dual-band domestic UMTS/HSDPA - 850/1900 MHz
# Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
[Imate Jasjar Specs WW 3G]
#Dual-Mode UMTS/GSM
# Tri-Band GSM/GPRS (900/1800/1900) + WCDMA(UMTS) (2100MHz
Oh if this were possible I would love this so much GPRS is just too slow
1wayjonny said:
well i see in the NETWORK/BAND area of the jasjar it says 1900PCS so i woudl think t he ant would be capable of getting a 1900 signal
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That's on the GSM chipset though, not the UMTS Qualcomm chipset.
1wayjonny said:
can we take the radio rom from other cingular 3g devices and have one look at the "switches" to add then to a HTC universal radio rom?
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I'm pretty certain, over a year on from it's release, if it was possible, someone would have done it.
1wayjonny said:
this would be awesome as i am bummed out that my over 1,000 phone cant connect to 3g because cingular used 1900 instead of 2100..
why cant the world be standard already...
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The world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
That's on the GSM chipset though, not the UMTS Qualcomm chipset.
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Ah ok but the ant question is still up in the air
I'm pretty certain, over a year on from it's release, if it was possible, someone would have done it.
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yea but things aren't done until properly motivated, being the 3g service is new here in the USA and the rest of this forum has had not reason to really... its efforts seemed deeply untapped... =)
The world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
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yes tell me about it, here use GSM/UTMS but make it non standard....
well its because 2100 is in use over here....
but this hack would be such a great feature for all us XDA USA members who just got shot by cingular...
no 3g cause my expensive phone dosent support it...
I will give $200 to someone to do it.
he world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
That's the point!
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I will give $200 to someone to do it.
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i would start a pot and donate 200 myself!!!
but we would need to find out if its possible before collecting money
UMTS on 1900 isn't even my annoyance. I just want quad band compatibility! I go to a University I *live* on the more urban side of the campus, but my classes are 15 mins away, in a more rural area...and the service SUCKS. I get so tired of the 'no service' beep in my bluetooh, I just turn the phone mode off. But then I'm unreachable...
I really wish I could get all four bands...-crosses fingers- C'mon 850...!
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UMTS on 1900 isn't even my annoyance. I just want quad band compatibility! I go to a University I *live* on the more urban side of the campus, but my classes are 15 mins away, in a more rural area...and the service SUCKS. I get so tired of the 'no service' beep in my bluetooh, I just turn the phone mode off. But then I'm unreachable...
I really wish I could get all four bands...-crosses fingers- C'mon 850...!
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Get an external antenna, or do everyone a favor in your class, hall this around! http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=509
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Get an external antenna, or do everyone a favor in your class, hall this around! http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=509
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Oh wow. Thanks, but I do not need the whole school thinking I have emphysema with that oxygen tank-looking thing in my room...lol.
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I would double that!
any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.
Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G
not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.
to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.
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Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol
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maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.
I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.
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Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.
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Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
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2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
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1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
julioavalon2015 said:
Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I think this is the current list of nations with CDMA networks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks
I would recommend that you simply buy a phone from a local mobile company. CDMA phones are harder to get working on other systems than GSM phones.
You have to find out what networks you have where you live. American CDMA is pretty much only a North American signal. The Evo is built to run on the Sprint network which is CDMA.
Most European countries (I know you are not in European country) run on a GSM network. Two of USA's bigger companies run GSM phones...AT&T and T-Mobile. Phones from both those companies will run in Europe...but not at 3G. But they will work.
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
Not sure if that helps. What network does your phone company use? Then get a phone that will work on that network. Evo is only CDMA so pretty much only a North American phone.
thank you very much for your answer, i hope to get a wonderful phone soon, and thank you again
Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...
julioavalon2015 said:
Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I live in Asia and yes, as long as you have compatible CDMA networks it will work, even the EVDO works!! You'll just need to ask your CDMA provider to inject a CDMA number or you can unlock it yourself using CDMA works (a bit risky thou)
Find out what frequencies the country you are trying to use it in run on their CDMA networks, Sprint runs on 1900MHz, the EVO roams on Verizon's 800MHz band. 800MHz is only for voice, 1900MHz runs both voice and data. So if you are in a country with a 800MHz CDMA network it will work, but only for voice/texts. WiMax runs on 2.5GHz, no one else uses that band for WiMax.
Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Even if it works, and you try and experiment with it only, you might get a few thousand dollar phone bill. Be very careful.
It has happened with many people with iPhone.
sablesurfer said:
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
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Yes it will.
GHOST99K said:
Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
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Yep, the N1 has nearly the same specs, and is available in both an AT&T flavor and T-Mobile flavor of GSM. Find out what you need in your area (I expect it will be the T-Mobile phone) and go for that instead.
The N1 has a 5MP camera instead of 8MP, but the picture quality is often just as good (higher MP just means you can blow it up or crop more) and the screen is a 3.7" instead of 4.3". However both run basically the same hardware inside, and the N1 has a more mature modding community.
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Yes it will.
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While Europe is a big place, the voice & wireless data portions of the Sprint Evo will not work in England, Ireland, Spain, France, Portugal, or Germany. Just like 95% percent of all Sprint phones.
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Uhm...a flat contradiction adds nothing to the conversation. More data if you have it. The non-compatibility with Ireland/Europe/etc was a huge deal to me. One I had to just swallow and accept that if I want the phone I'd have to deal with travel at that time.
I spent weeks researching and was even told by Sprint store that no go on the Evo.
CNET: "Alternatively, if your relative is a Sprint or a Verizon customer, he or she can rent GSM phones from the carrier for the length of the trip:
HTC: "Networks CDMA 800/1900 MHz EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX 2. 5 to 2.7GHz; 802.16e"
Don't be an azz and throw out a denial with no information. Even HTC shows this phone has NO GSM.
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Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...
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Is it an extra charge to use phone there..?
i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
While the phone is capable of 3G, the new network may not be and/or may not be the same 3G as what the AT$T network is.
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i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service
ive been using my tp2 with simple mobile for awhile and they are capable of 3g service. You might just have to goto your connection settings and check to see if you have it checked that you connect through a proxy. If its not put this ip address: 216.155.165.50 after you put that in goto the advanced settings right underneath where you wrote the ip and change the port number from 80 to 8080
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i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.
... As can be seen in their FAQ
What phones work on Simple Mobile 3G? Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network
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because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service
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What satellites??? Cell networks use towers, not satellites. Is this information from a source you can cite, or just a notion you thought up in your head?
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The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.
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The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.
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The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.
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Because of the high bandwidth of 3G networks, they require an upstream channel and a downstream channel. The 2100MHz band is to be used in conjunction with AT&T's 3G networks in other parts of the world, namely Asia, which is on the 900/2100MHz 3G bands. The AT&T tilt2 lacks the hardware to make connecting to Simple Mobile's 3G network possible.
3g on simple mobile
thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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No one has a hack because what you are asking for is impossible. It's not a software limitation. Your hardware does not support their 3G network as I've mentioned twice above. The radio in the tilt2 does not operate in the frequency range of Simple Mobile's AWS network. I really can't make it any more clear. You can either deal with no 3G or get a branded device. Those are your only options.
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thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck
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thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck
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Please stop posting things like this. This is the second time in this thread alone that you haven't even been close to being right. The legality of this has absolutely nothing to do with the post, nor is it actually illegal. It actually that seems this topic is too complicated for you.
still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!
justlovejoy said:
still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!
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OK, I looked up Simple Mobile. They use the T-Mobile 3G network. Sorry, your AT&T phone will not work 3G on that network - it has the wrong hardware modem. You are stuck with EDGE unless you get a different device.
Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
LiquidXed said:
Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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That will just not work. It is not the radio firmware, it is the hardware.
dswaggz said:
I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Come back when you lose the text-speak and can speak English.
dswaggz said:
Hey how bout this blow me an I'm new port,fl so come get u some
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Ooh, another internet tuff guy. I'm shaking.