US 3G Data? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?

usually it has to do more with hardware rather than software, so you're out of luck. Less than 600, more likely it will be a used one off of here or ebay.

lordxiagan said:
So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?
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No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?

lordxiagan said:
However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model.
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from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.

orb3000 said:
No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?
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Where did you get that date of July 22 from?

orb3000 said:
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
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I think it's T-Mobile that'll have it on July 22nd, with their T-Mobile weird/specific 3G bands, not AT&T. I'm still anxiously waiting for AT&T to announce the release date...

^yep, the July 22nd date is for Tmob...hopefully it won't be pushed back!

omaralt said:
from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.
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Orly? Yeah, I was talking about the one with the red keyboard (the red was cool, the 10-key was not >_>). If that isn't the ATT model, then what IS it and why is that picture out there?
If the att version is standard keyboard, then I'm all about getting one from att with (hopefully) US 3g.
Thanks for all the replies!

That was a mock-up picture. If you look at the slide it says 5-Row QWERTY but the picture of the phone shows a 4-row QWERTZ. I also doubt they would keep that hideous red color.

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UK Release date / GSM exclusivity

Hey does anyone know if any networks are claiming exclusivity to the Touch Pro 2 in the UK and even when its likely to be with the different GSM companies.
My TyTnII is getting very worn down and I dont fancy buying a second SIM-free phone to get the Pro2 to replace it.
i am also (and for a looooong time) eagerly awaiting the answer to this question!
my kaiser looks like it got imported from the classic starwars era, or has just been fighting the taliban in afghanistan, call buttons are just red or green haphazard scratches and the windows start button...lol its not even there anymore!
Mobilegazette have it hitting t-mobile in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Austria and Czech Republic in June.
Orange retentions UK, confirmed it's on their list of coming soon but no specific date.
O2 release
Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
lets hope its not the same farse on tmobile that the MDA Vario 4 was.
chris10230 said:
Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
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I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
wibble said:
I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
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Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
EViS said:
Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
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Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
wibble said:
Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
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It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
chris10230 said:
It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
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I dont mind which network takes it - Orange would be less hassle for me as im already there but I just want a network to confirm it and put it on a coming soon page so i can plan leaving or working on getting a pre-order in
Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
arvin1 said:
Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
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Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
HTC Touch Pro2 price and availability confirmed @ Clove (UK)
wibble said:
Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
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work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
Timossss said:
i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
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Hope this is correct
thats what i got in writing from htc (without any commitment as observation of course). If we compare the time periord of release of the diamond and touch pro it was aprox.the same, so it could be true.
arvin1 said:
work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
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Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
wibble said:
Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
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well the omnia hd went on mid april and its being launched this week now, the touch pro 2 came on around the same time frame and should land end of this month or begining of june. supplier problems hindered the launch of the omnia hd though , was meant to be last week so might have pushed the touch pro 2 back a bit
The Expansys website has been updated to say...
Availability: Normally less than 5 days
I sent an email to them asking if this is the case and when we can expect it to be release.
This is the reply...
Many thanks for your enquiry , please be advised that the Touch Pro 2 is out towards the end of June.
I hope this aint true.

Were to buy in USA

Hi All,
I'm new in this forum and I don’t know if this is the write place to ask this kind of question, but any way I'm interested about buy the pro2, can some spare me some information about were to buy in USA for a good price?
Thanks,
the touch pro 2 isn't out for any US carrier yet. people here have to order it from a european website like clove or expansys or something.
Or wait till ends of july and buy it with a local provider wich will include a 3G working version.
Hope local providers do not change it so much as european version is great!
orb3000 said:
Or wait till ends of july and buy it with a local provider wich will include a 3G working version.
Hope local providers do not change it so much as european version is great!
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i'll believe it when i see it.

Use Sprint TP2 in Germany

Hi,
I'm from Germany and want to buy the Sprint HTC TP2.
Now I found some pages that say i cannot use the phone here.
Because it has quadband i think i can use gsm here, but i don't know wether umts in Germany is fully supported.
Sprint homepage says it's an international phone, but i don't know much about the frequencies of umts and else.
Why I didn't buy the phone in Germany?
Here it costs $700, the Sprint version has a audio output (3.5mm), so i donÄt need any adaptor, and i like the full black hardware keyboard more than the silver german one.
So, what's about the umts and gsm frequency in Germany and would be there any problems?
Thanx,
CrossFire
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
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Actually, the CDMA touch pro 2s are all world phones capable of quadband GSM/EDGE in addition to Euro 3G (2100mhz). The Sprint branded phones are sim-unlocked, but they just can't use US carriers like T-Mobile USA or AT&T.
I'm not guaranteeing that it'll work, but it should in Germany.
xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
scooler said:
You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
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My mistake. I have to say that there is no clear indication on either Sprint.com, HTC.com or Microsoft.com that says that GSM features the phone has. However, I checked the Sprint manual for the phone and it turns out it does support GSM.
Am I right in saying that GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS will work, but HSDPA/HSUPA won't?
xanthene: Just for future reference, if you are in need of a full detailed spec list, you can always visit www.pdadb.net. They always have a very comprehensive list with details on the phones that will be and have already been released.

[Q] SM-T705M

I'd love to get the Tab S 8.4 LTE (T705) but the LTE support in North America is severely lacking (only 2600MHz is supported by both my carrier and the device. I would also want 700 and 1700/2100).
I've seen mention of an "M" variant for South America (mostly Brazil) that also supports the NA frequencies but I'm coming up blank on a suitable source to purchase one. I've found a bunch of what look to be carrier websites but nothing in English and the prices, after exchange, seem to be significantly higher that what I can buy the non-"M" model for.
Does anyone know what the physical differences are between the "M" and the base version, if any?
Are they actually different or are they just using a custom radio firmware in the "M" to support the SA frequencies?
Would it be possible to flash an "M" radio firmware on the standard model to change the operating frequencies?
Thanks in advance.
Good questions, I have no answers, but the new AT&T model might be what you need. Carrier bloat beware.
Note10.1Dude said:
Good questions, I have no answers, but the new AT&T model might be what you need. Carrier bloat beware.
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Never mind carrier bloat, it's what they're taking away that concerns me.
It looks like, in typical fashion, they have disabled the phone features of the device. I don't see any mention of being able to use it as a phone on the pre-order page and the one picture of a home-screen does not have a dialer icon.
It's possible that's the SM-T707A, though. Time will tell; this is still a new device so we'll see what happens when it finally gets into peoples' hands.
Sicarius128 said:
It looks like, in typical fashion, they have disabled the phone features of the device.
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The photos don't show an earset opening, so yes, no phone features in the ATT model. Well, I'm at the point of waiting for the Nexus 9 anyway before I make a decision on a new tab. I really like my Note 10, but would prefer it without touchwiz/magazine/etc.
Any luck on finding a place to buy it from yet? I can't find someone to ship to the us.
I just purchased mine a month ago. The only place I found it availible was on ebay. If you want the phone version of the Tab S make sure you purchase SM-T705. This is the phone I purchased. Tab S with phone capability, and factory unlocked.
I have the t705m bought in Brazil (unlocked) however I regret the day I purchased this tablet. I can't get along with Samsung useless apps I can't uninstall and couldn't find an alternative ROM for this device.
r2arthur said:
I have the t705m bought in Brazil (unlocked) however I regret the day I purchased this tablet. I can't get along with Samsung useless apps I can't uninstall and couldn't find an alternative ROM for this device.
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taking a chance here...
do you still have this item? If so, are you interested in selling it? Thanks

HTC 10 in Japan, ok for root?

I am living in Japan and I definitely want to buy the new HTC 10.
I am concerned thus that I could have problem to root it or unlock the bootloader since it's my first time to buy a phone here in Japan, not sure if that could be a problem.
I was considering to ask my friend to send it to me from UK, to have a European version.
What do you guys think? Would it be fine if I buy it here then root it as I always did?
Thanks in advance!
In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.
androg said:
In Japan, too, and will be snapping this baby up hopefully when Au releases it in June (my guess, based on past summer releases and what I have seen on HTCsoku). I've had no issues unlocking and getting s-off on HTC phones (Desire then the M7, my current phone) here in the past, so I don't see why we'd have any issues this time. Hopefully, we'll get some joy from Sunshine soon enough and can find out for sure.
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Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!
No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
yukinok25 said:
Thanks for your help!
I was a bit concerned as I own a UK M8 now with a BiCSim provider sim card, but it seems like I cannot get a 4G signal, as I don't have band 1 unlocked on this phone.
For this reason I was a bit worried, you never know...
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ROMs are u flashing on your HTC? I mean, is there a thread specifically made for Japanese phones/ROMs?
Thanks again!
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androg said:
No probs. It's early days yet for everyone, things being tested, guides being made, so keep an eye on the forum. Very few people even have the phone at this point, and we are still at least a month away from Japan release. Be patient, grasshopper.
I have TWRP and still have stock on my old M7. Was easy-peasy. As far as Japan-specific phones go, in the past they have basically just been one or two sub-threads within the particular phone's forum. There are a few XDA folk based in Japan, but not so many HTC users - who knows, I haven't fiddled with my phone for almost two years, so there may be more these days). Best idea is to keep an eye out here and on local HTC fansites (like HTCsoku, as I mentioned - you might need Japanese ability to get the most out of them, mind you).
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Yep, checked the HTCsoku website, seems interesting, but too hard for me now, still a rookie..
Anyway much appreciation for your precious info, thanks again!
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HTC in Japan
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).
tokjdm said:
Also living in Japan. I have the HTC One rooted with Android Revolution HD 92.0 installed. I have a Rakuten Mobile sim card and LTE works fine (when available which is not at many places).
I am also planning on buying the HTC 10. I haven't yet found the detailed differences between the different versions but the Asian version may be preferable to the European version (at least that's what I decided for the HTC One).
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Find this One today:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B01...rds=htc+10&dpPl=1&dpID=41EkBGDHiFL&ref=plSrch
How reliable do you think it would be?
There are no reviews yet and I am scared it might be as scam...
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I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay
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I don't know but you can find cheaper with free delivery to Japan on ebay
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True, I checked also on the amazon UK website and its definitely cheaper, around 85.000 yen, about 550£.
I still have a 50£ voucher on Amazon UK, still thinking to buy it there and ask my friend to send it to me, I guess even with the delivery will be much cheaper.
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If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia
tokjdm said:
If you look here the price is cheaper on amazon.de:
http://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-htc-10
The only thing is I am not sure the HTC10 sold in Europe is exactly the same one that is sold in Asia
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This is the only thing I am worried infact, because my M8 currently doesn't work with LTE here, but is basically a 2 years old phone, at that time 4G was still kind of new.
For a while I will keep looking..
I should have looked better: there are apparently only two versions available, US and EMEA (see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-7884.php).
For Japan, the bands available are not that great.
Docomo is mostly on bands 1, 3 and 19.
AU on bands 1, 11 and 18.
Softbank on bands 1, 3 and 8.
The HTC 10 EMEA version is on bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40 and 41.
The US version is on bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29 and 30.
If you are on AU, you have only one band available whatever the HTC 10 version chosen.
If you are on Softbank, the EMEA version has all three bands covered.
With Docomo, either versions are possible (only two bands covered)
This was my main concern, if the HTC 10 EMEA would cover the LTE signal or not, hope it will work with my BiC SiM card, I am using Docomo carrier.
I am wondering if 2 bands are enough for a decent LTE signal thus, but if we really will have only 2 HTC 10 version, it should work..
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So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)
androg said:
So... anyone in Japan purchased and rooted the HTC 10 (HTV32) yet? Just about ready to make the visit to the AU store and say sayonara to my M7. I have been looking for experiences on unlocking and rooting on Japanese sites... can't see anyone having done it as yet. I am guessing jcase's method (sticky on the HTC10 forum) will work with this one just as well, but always nice to see others do these things on the exact same version of device prior to diving in yourself (well, for relative noobs like myself, it is less nerve-wracking!)
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I bought my HTC 10 from Amazon and I noticed that it has been delivered from Taipei, of course Asia firmware.
No problem here working flawlessly, S-OFF, unlocked bootloader, Lee Droid ROM, ElementalX Kernel.
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Awesome - used the method I mentioned? (jcase) I assume it was already unlocked. Which carrier you using, btw? Amazon: might look into that.
Actually I don't even know what is "Jcase" method.
I always follow xda's guide.
I don't have a contract by the way, just using iijimio monthly sim card plan.
Edit: Sorry I forgot to tell you that the HTC 10 I bought is not the Japanese version you mentioned, here:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B0...pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=htc+10
No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.
Darkfire55 said:
No sure if this is the right thread but for the Japanese HTC 10 models, what keyboard is installed to input Japanese?
With US models, TouchPal is installed and that does not have a Japanese option.
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Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.
ExMM said:
Touchpal does have Japanese input, I am actually using it.
Just click on top of the keyboard on the "world icon" and add Japanese.
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Mine doesn't seem to have it. Can you show me how you added Japanese? (Are you using a Japanese model of HTC 10?)
Thanks!

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