Some questions about TouchPro2 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi there,
I just got myself the Touch Pro2, having been a user of the Touch Diamond for somewhile and enjoyed that phone. However, I have been having some challenges with the TouchPro 2 and questions and am hoping that someone here could help
1. The task manager at the top right corner. This usually lists the programs that are running. However, with the TP2, I noticed that once Opera is loaded, it does not show up there but is still running. So if I want to close Opera, I am not sure how to as previously, I just needed to click on the "x" next to it. The other program that is behaving in the same manner is ActiveSync. It does not show up there either. Has anyone have the same issue?
2. When I try to add contacts to the people tab, it will bring up the list of contacts with a alphabetical index on the right side. However, when I click on any of the alphabets, say "D", it does not bring me to my contacts starting with "D" but rather to somewhere in the middle of "C". This goes the same for any alphabets. Does anyone have the same prob?
Thanks!

For your first question
Some apps aren't meant to be closed like the phone app or activesync. They always run in the background. As for Opera, I don't know, but maybe it's neccesary for the push internet thingy to work?

driekus said:
Some apps aren't meant to be closed like the phone app or activesync. They always run in the background. As for Opera, I don't know, but maybe it's neccesary for the push internet thingy to work?
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I could close the activesync in my diamond previously but not in TP2.
Hmm.... push internet, it could be a reason but still find it odd that it's not listed as an item on the task manager.

Magic Button

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Closing running programs

Has Any one found a program or hack that aloows you to close the running programs when you hit the little X ? It seems simple but Im not sure why they made it so they still run when you close the program for all of the applications. When I pess the X I'm done what about you all?
Dekum of the New Outriders :roll:
Dekum:
Many people have found many ways of doing it. A search will open this world up to you.
Here's a good way to do it though:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml
As I said, there are other ways, it may be in your interest to get a wider opinion before diving in to smclose.
V
Thanks thats what I was looking for I will let you know how it works.
I use one called Close All. Basically a red X that when executed will close all running apps. Very handy. Much quicker than Start>Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs>Stop All.
I've tried a lot of these and all suffer the problem of not being able to close the phone dialer and most bork some how. ActiveSync can also be a pain closing, but some tools are better than others.
My personal favs are:
vbar: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
magicbutton: http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
I've stuck with magicbutton til I find something that reliably closes the apps above and provides it's simplicity and functionality. I use the battery meter it provides as I have the systray off (until I find something remotely useful for that area). Also I can hide dialer and async and also set them to keep alive, which both keeps them happy and me not seeing them unless I want to
Anyways, plenty of choices, most can be found on google using a search phrase like "pocketpc task manager" or ppc... etc. Gl.
any programs that could be customized (we can choose) whether if we like to close it or just minimize it?
eg: for file explorer if we tap close button then it will close the application, but for messaging if we tap close button then it only minimize it.
yeah many pda programs dont like being terminated in that way
doing it just after sending a sms is giving ppl problems with 2 sms's sendt and sms iron not going away from the title bar
other programs would prob also act up thinking of data not being saved correct
since i suspect some pda programs only really save in when they are closed the normal way as in by the OS
I did try the magicbutton and it seem to work better than the smclose I havnt tried the other yet let know and thanks for the help all this is a great source of information for the 8125 and htc phones.
Thumbs way up!!!!
Vap: VJOkButt has a specific mode for closing the phone, -phclose.
It will close the phone, but it's not advisable to close the phone because it introduces a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from the contacts app will cause problems. However, if you never do this, it'll save you a few 100k.
I've also written two apps specifically to close the phone, I think one if VJPhoneToggle or something.
Again, closing activesync is not advisable because if you're connected through GPRS/Wifi etc, it'll hangup your connection. In most use the app will be hidden from view anyway. VJOkButt ignores ActiveSync.
V

Linking Contacts and Tom Tom

Hi,
Is there a way that we are able to go to the contacts in the HTC-P3300 and hold the contact so that it links with the Tom Tom to navigate to that specific destination?
Thanks,
I don't know about going TO TomTom FROM contacts, but you surely can do it from within TomTom:
With TomTom active, tap the screen to bring up the options menu. Then click "Navigate To." Now go to the second page in that menu and you should see the "Contact" option. Click it to browse your contacts and navigate directly to the ones for which you have addresses. It's pretty cool!
Good Luck!
While in Contacts list, long click on a contact with an address and a menu will pop-up, select "Navigate to".
Hi Zerimar I have tried that however there is no navigate to. I did a factory restore which reinstalled 6.020. I also installed the 6.010 back to 6.020. I have called TT and they are supposed to get back to me.
Thanks,
Stupid me. I replied without checking my device. This options seems not to be available in tt6 but I just installed the PIMAddIn.cab from tt5 and it works.
could you email it to me at [email protected]?
Where do you install it.
Thanks,
I've checked the .cab file with WinCE Cab Manager and I have not found any registry entries. It just installs .dll files in the \Program Files\Contact Navigation\ directory thus it should work on WM5 devices. Remember my device is only running W2003SE.
Hi,
I took the PIMAddIn.cab and installed it in the same folder however when i double click on it all my contacts open up. The navigate to is still not there.
Hi Zerimar,
I followed your instructions. Everything works now.
Thansk a million!!!!!!!!!
Just curious guys, what is the advantage to getting the option within your PIM contact list when TomTom is going to open anyway when you navigate? Why go through all that work to hack an option that is available to you from within the program itself?
Just wondering...
zerimar said:
Stupid me. I replied without checking my device. This options seems not to be available in tt6 but I just installed the PIMAddIn.cab from tt5 and it works.
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TomTom 6.02 has the "Navigate to contact"option! You do not need extra cabs to do this. When you select "Navigate to" you then use the arrow to the next page, and the 'Contact" option is very clear for you to select.
Victor
The original question (in a rephrased fashion) was the possibility of activating tt6 and navigating to the contact's address from Outlook Contacts. This was a feature in tt5. With the small trick, I can have it both ways.
psargent said:
Just curious guys, what is the advantage to getting the option within your PIM contact list when TomTom is going to open anyway when you navigate? Why go through all that work to hack an option that is available to you from within the program itself?
Just wondering...
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In a way I agree with your line of thought, but when dicin raised the question and I found out that "Navigate to" was no longer an option in Outlook Contacts the idea poped-up. The hack took about a minute and doesn't occupy much space. Now we can have it both ways.
I noticed on the HTC-P3300 using the feature does work however it is slow. That is the only part that is slow. I also noticed that company names do not show up. If you use contacts and calendar heavily through outlook it is much faster than going within TT.
dicin said:
Hi Zerimar,
I followed your instructions. Everything works now.
Thansk a million!!!!!!!!!
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You're welcome dicin. Btw, you can retain the PMAddIn.dll and the PMAddInXXX.dll (XXX=language of choice) and delete the rest.
dicin said:
I noticed on the HTC-P3300 using the feature does work however it is slow. That is the only part that is slow. I also noticed that company names do not show up. If you use contacts and calendar heavily through outlook it is much faster than going within TT.
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I think it looks slow because tt has to fist load, etc. What do you mean by comany names do not show up?
Btw, I pm'd you regarding quick gps fix, any ideas?
If I have in my outlook a contact listed by company name only it will show up as a blank listing in the TT contact list.
In the TT it is slow when you type in the contact list letters to find a specific name otherwise everything else is great.
The HTC works very good even though the processor speed. I have been able to have the wifi, gprs, phone mode and GPS navigation on all at once with no problem. It will navigate and receive calls with no problem. The volume is great and the reception is outstanding. I have had many phones and I mean many. I also modd all kinds of Moto phones and this is the first WM5 and must say i am impressed.
I have read your PM.
Where do you want me to send the files? It will be towards the end of the day.
Cheers,
zerimar said:
Stupid me. I replied without checking my device. This options seems not to be available in tt6 but I just installed the PIMAddIn.cab from tt5 and it works.
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Hi, I have been after this as well, other than running the PIMAddin.cab is there anything else to be done, I know dicin had trouble at 1st but you the gave him some instructions what to do?
Cheers
NickR said:
Hi, I have been after this as well, other than running the PIMAddin.cab is there anything else to be done, I know dicin had trouble at 1st but you the gave him some instructions what to do?
Cheers
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Copy the cab file somewhere in your device, ie. Storage Card. Using an Explorer program, go to where the cab file was saved. Double-click on the cab file and do a soft reset. If you want you can delete the undesired dlls from the folder \Program Files\Contacts Navigation\. Be sure to keep the PIMAddIn.dll and the dll file of your language choice.
dicin said:
If I have in my outlook a contact listed by company name only it will show up as a blank listing in the TT contact list.
In the TT it is slow when you type in the contact list letters to find a specific name otherwise everything else is great.
The HTC works very good even though the processor speed. I have been able to have the wifi, gprs, phone mode and GPS navigation on all at once with no problem. It will navigate and receive calls with no problem. The volume is great and the reception is outstanding. I have had many phones and I mean many. I also modd all kinds of Moto phones and this is the first WM5 and must say i am impressed.
I have read your PM.
Where do you want me to send the files? It will be towards the end of the day.
Cheers,
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Kindly send it to [email protected], preferrably in zip format.
Thanks in advance.

Uninstalling MS Voice Command

Does anyone know how to uninstall this? When i try to do it on the phone or over Activesync I get a warning message that it could not remove all of the program and ultimately the entire program is still installed. It takes up too much room for what it does (and I think there's a battery issue with it as well) Thanks
bugsykoosh said:
Does anyone know how to uninstall this? When i try to do it on the phone or over Activesync I get a warning message that it could not remove all of the program and ultimately the entire program is still installed. It takes up too much room for what it does (and I think there's a battery issue with it as well) Thanks
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Try using the Uninstall application of this program: http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/ Once the program is uninstalled, just delete the remaining folders and then run the Quick Clean and that should remove all remnants of the Uninstalled program.
Thanks. It helped to remove mobitv and xmradio which were entirely useless to me and took up a lot of room. However, when I tried to uninstall memmaid it left a few bits behind - there are folders remaining in the program directory... in fact the MobiTv icon still exists in my program directory leading me to beleive that it's just deleting a folder and not removing the program from my reigstry, etc. It's a start though. Thanks again
Re: uninstall
This may be a silly question, but was VC cooked into the rom originally or did you install it yourself? If it was cooked in you will not be able to remove it. (As is true for any cooked in application.)
Best wishes,
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Thanks. It helped to remove mobitv and xmradio which were entirely useless to me and took up a lot of room. However, when I tried to uninstall memmaid it left a few bits behind - there are folders remaining in the program directory... in fact the MobiTv icon still exists in my program directory leading me to beleive that it's just deleting a folder and not removing the program from my reigstry, etc. It's a start though. Thanks again
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Quick question; when using MemMaid, did you use the Quick Clean with all items checked? by default not all are checked.
Dead shortcuts
Dead Registry
Bad uninstall (files)
Bad Uninstall (Registry)
These are just a few items I would make sure are checked..
Thanks for the help guys. It was not part of a cooked rom and after checking the boxes on memmaid and rebooting a few times VC is gone (and 5 megs are free). After uninstalling memmaid (it's 900k - I can't keep that around ) it just left an empty folder called "Handyswitch actions" that I'm just going to manually delete. Thanks for the help. I was this close to deciding between keeping Skyfire and outlook
bugsykoosh said:
Thanks for the help guys. It was not part of a cooked rom and after checking the boxes on memmaid and rebooting a few times VC is gone (and 5 megs are free). After uninstalling memmaid (it's 900k - I can't keep that around ) it just left an empty folder called "Handyswitch actions" that I'm just going to manually delete. Thanks for the help. I was this close to deciding between keeping Skyfire and outlook
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Sorry, during install of MemMaid you could of unchecked the handyswitcher and whatever extras you didn't need and they wouldn't have installed. Glad to see you has some success though.
Why dont you install these programs to the sd???
ultramag69 said:
Why dont you install these programs to the sd???
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You can't install MS VC to storage card and have it work correctly unfortunatly.
I've had same issue whilst installing MSVC to storage card and had tp install it to phone. I also had same problem trying to uninstall it. Luckily I wanted to upgrad my ROM which solved the problem
As I've been using my phone I learned there's a new glitch - if I use autocomplete to fill in text or complete an email address, etc it crashes my phone (I think pasting text does too). This didn't happen a day ago so I think there's a connection to the uninstallation of VC. I've reset it 5 times and it's always the same result. The screen becomes nonresponsive, switching to landscape mode takes about 45 seconds and doesn't solve anything and both the onscreen keyboard (Happy Tapping) and the hard keyboard fail to function. If I wait it out I can get the start menu to drop down and get to the Today screen but navigation is still brutally slow there and the email sits. I Use o2plus and it shows apps are running but doesn't state them (it's pOutlook that is frozen). Any ideas? I wish PPC had 'last good state' like Windows... thanks again
I have VC on my memory card and have no problem... Dont know why you have though.
ultramag69 said:
I have VC on my memory card and have no problem... Dont know why you have though.
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More specifically when installing to SC anything bluetooth related doesn't work.
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As I've been using my phone I learned there's a new glitch - if I use autocomplete to fill in text or complete an email address, etc it crashes my phone (I think pasting text does too). This didn't happen a day ago so I think there's a connection to the uninstallation of VC. I've reset it 5 times and it's always the same result. The screen becomes nonresponsive, switching to landscape mode takes about 45 seconds and doesn't solve anything and both the onscreen keyboard (Happy Tapping) and the hard keyboard fail to function. If I wait it out I can get the start menu to drop down and get to the Today screen but navigation is still brutally slow there and the email sits. I Use o2plus and it shows apps are running but doesn't state them (it's pOutlook that is frozen). Any ideas? I wish PPC had 'last good state' like Windows... thanks again
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Installed VC today, no prob's worked great. Then I uninstalled it. Also, no prob's. Autocomplete and everything else works as per norm

Opera Question

Did a hard reset and going through the painful process of setting everything up. I did keep a .doc file with all my settings in it, and that has helped. One annoying problem though.
Opera is very strange. Mobile websites do not appear as they normally do. They come up very small, and I have to zoom and center them in to be able to read them. Anyone know a setting to ensure that Opera sees a mobile website as a mobile website?
Some are working fine. m.cnn.com is ok, others such as m.google.com show up incredibly small and do not fit the screen as they normall do.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
Settings>Display>Click "Mobile View"
You are a rock star. I could not figure that out at 1.00 am.
Thanks!
JG
On a related note, I cant seem to figure out how to make links in emails open up in opera. I changed the registry setting, and the manilla settings, but links in emails still open in IE.

inbox keeps poping up after unlock?

i upgraded to 6.5 a few days ago - had the TP2 for a couple days than... now the device keeps opening the message-inbox after i unlock it (s2u2)! i can't remember that it did it with 6.1!
is there a tweak? am i doing something wrong? i just want to understand that lil thingy!
You can't solve that. Its a "feature" Microsoft introduced in 6.5.
Memory management is more aggressive in 6.5. Outlook is fighting for priority on environments with little ram available. Sometimes it loads the inbox, sometimes just the bottom and the top bars. For me that's so annoying that i downgraded to 6.1. Anyway, it is also known that s2u2 causes this "feature" to show up more.
Good luck.
I wish i bought the HD2 because it has more ram and that problem does not occur.
Mmmm.. i don't have this problem, when I unlock my phone, its show the home tab.. not the inbox ^o)
I'm not on WM6.5 but WM6.5.1. Perhaps should you try it.. ?
Inobx popup
this has been noted as a fix in this forum already. In task manager, set your email client to exclusive and this will stop it from popping up randomly, as you are granting it use of the required memory all the time, so the popup ceases.
I posted fix for this already earlier.
Procedure:
Open your email, and without closing it, open your settings menu and navigate to task manager. Press and hold to select the email client, (tmail.exe) and set it to exclusive and the problem will go away.
MWS
thanks mate... will try!
and thanks for the repost...

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