Is it too easy to dial a contact??? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi folks,
I have found it from time to time too easy to dial a contact resulting in an accidental dial to someone. This is usually due to the fact that I thought I was selecting a contact when tapping on it rather than immediately dialling the number. Perhaps I am too new to the TP2 and Windows Mobile phoning, but it seems to me that it would be useful to have a popup yes/no window to confirm that you want to dial out.
It is a bit like the delete in the email section which deletes without confirmation. I accidentally selected a few emails and then accidentally tapped delete and then saw half my email disappear.. No big deal. But no confirmation box or undo facility that I could see.
Perhaps there is a way of altering the behaviour for the above...???
Any thoughts appreciated....
Sam

Same here. On the missed calls screen I always tap a contact to go to their contact card, but instead I obviously call them immediately.
For me it is just the change from going from Symbian to WM...
I'll get used to it eventually

I think that an extra "Are you sure you wanted to do what you did?" screen would get REALLY irritating very quickly

stunno said:
I think that an extra "Are you sure you wanted to do what you did?" screen would get REALLY irritating very quickly
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True.
However the number of times I have accidental touched a contact name (even during call) does make you wonder...
I ended up installing Pocket Shield to prevent it and handle the much to sensitive power button.

rbroudo said:
True.
However the number of times I have accidental touched a contact name (even during call) does make you wonder...
I ended up installing Pocket Shield to prevent it and handle the much to sensitive power button.
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So you have PocketShield really running correctly?
I tried, but it's a weird program - installation is correct, changing parameters etc. is no problem, but when it should cick in it gives me errors.

Hi,
The PocketShield Program is an interesting program and potentially solves issues that I have not come across yet probably cos I am new to WM6.1. However I can see the touch screen being a problem, so good find.
HOWEVER.... I do not think this solves my underlying question and that is that once you tap on the contact be it accidental or not it will dial and I think it would be good to have the option of having a "confirm" screen. This is also true with "delete" for the email inbox. I have yet again accidentally deleted an email and even could not get it out of the "Deleted" folder.
Sam

Same problem for me.
I found that the contact sorted top on TouchFlo favourites page would get dialled accidentally. I solved this by setting the default number for a contact to be a dummy invalid number. So now at least no call is made when the contact is dialled by accident. This approach may work elsewhere. Not ideal but...

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Call history in WM6 Dialer

In WM5 dialpad, it was built in that the pushing the directional button goes directly to call history (up), voicemail, custom service etc (down). It made it convenient because I didn't have to touch the screen. I would like not to have to touch it if possible (hate smudges ).
Anyway, in WM6 dialer, this functionality is gone. Anyway to get it back?
TIA
In WM6 you can set the dialler to list your recent calls in the window above the dialpad and to search them as you dial letters - or you can hide keypad with left softkey and simply scroll down recent calls.
Use Menu, View and select calls and contacts.
Common Baby
Try to Edit Registry
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin
Enabled = 1
Comeback to the Origin........
hatori said:
Common Baby
Try to Edit Registry
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin
Enabled = 1
Comeback to the Origin........
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This does not do anything. Is there a way to enable call history when I push the up directional key?
I love the new history, it is where it should be with the contacts. Also it is easier for me to see how much time I spend on the phone with certain people. Anyway, I am not sure why we would old history but I guess to each its own.
anubus12 said:
In WM5 dialpad, it was built in that the pushing the directional button goes directly to call history (up), voicemail, custom service etc (down). It made it convenient because I didn't have to touch the screen. I would like not to have to touch it if possible (hate smudges ).
Anyway, in WM6 dialer, this functionality is gone. Anyway to get it back?
TIA
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You are actually wrong about the D-Pad control in WM5.0.
WM2003xx had that funcionality. But SmartSkey enabled it in WM5.0
lpsi2000 said:
I love the new history, it is where it should be with the contacts. Also it is easier for me to see how much time I spend on the phone with certain people. Anyway, I am not sure why we would old history but I guess to each its own.
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It makes it much easier and faster to delete or manage calls. Don't have to push the call history button with your fingers
anubus12
It makes it much easier and faster to delete or manage calls. Don't have to push the call history button with your fingers
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I am not sure I understand this. What is there in the history to manage? It is just a call log. Are you going through the call log and deleting individual call?
I am not knocking your needs, I am just curious.
lpsi2000 said:
Are you going through the call log and deleting individual call?
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That's exactly what I am doing.
Okay, yeah that is a lot of work.
How ?
anubus12 said:
That's exactly what I am doing.
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I've been trying to find a way to delete individual incoming/outgoing/missed calls from my WM5 8525, but am drawing a blank,... can you let me in on it, if you've found a way ? Thanx.
"Originally Posted by hatori
Common Baby
Try to Edit Registry
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin
Enabled = 1
Comeback to the Origin........
This does not do anything. Is there a way to enable call history when I push the up directional key?"
changing 1 to 0 worked for me
what I used to do till WM6/WM5/M$ got me stuck:
suppose you don't want to return a call to "that missed call", you'll do it tomorrow - I would delete the calls as they come and leave a "clean" missed call history.
think of it as a check list of not returned calls.
WM5 smartdialer.
Simply use "Pimp my Black" or the equivalent Tweak Utility and enable the 3G Video Dialer. Soft rest and you now have the WM5 smart dialer which shows names and #'s. It also allows you to use the scroll wheel to quickly access history (Up) and speed-dial (Down).

Issues with 6.5 ROM

Hi,
since I upgraded my TP2 ROM with the WinMo6.5 from HTC I encountered two issues which really make me regret this from time to time:
On incoming calls very often the caller name is not displayed even if the phone number is known in my address book. Also in call history i just see numbers, not names. This worked perfectly in 6.0.
When I receive a call, i press "take call" but the phone simply wont take it. Instead it silences the ringtone but there is no chance I take the call.
I searched the forum but couldn't find anything that would help. There was some registry entry about setting the size of phone numbers which should fix problem one, but the issue here is, that German phone numbers don't have any fixed size, so the suggested fix is not working. Also I'd wonder why I have to set something up when just the same thing worked perfectly in 6.0. As for the more annoying "can't take call" thingy, i am absolutely clueless. Has anyone of you encountered these issues before and if so, were you able to fix them?
I can't find the link readily but I thought I remember reading that adding (or removing) the "+" in front of phone numbers in your contacts helped the first issue.

Major need for speed dial

I know there is probably an app for that.
But I mean speed dial. I want to open the phone app (which, in my scenario, defaults to the keypad), and long-press a number to quick-dial someone.
My boss can go from "we need to call x", to actually dialing on his blackberry in about 1.5 seconds.
I have to unlock, wait for the screen to actually respond (since it freezes for that half second after unlocking), hit the people tile, hit the "work" group, find the contact, tap it. Then tap "call".
I could pin that group to the main page, yes. But that's beside the point.
My old windows mobile device had 99 spots for speed dial numbers. Please Microsoft. Just let us speed dial.
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While I'm on this, there should be a more business-friendly setup available. In my "work" group, I don't care "what's new" or what pictures they've uploaded to facebook.
You can also voice command "call xxx" via lock screen (if enabled) or even bluetooth without touching the phone (on windows phone).
I used a blackberry for years, and as phones they are amazing. I have yet to see any touchscreen phone than is as quick for things such as calling (without voice) as a BB. Its very efficient at that. Dedicated call/end buttons are always nice as well.
But yes, we do need smart dialing. Vote for it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...s/suggestions/2281390-smart-dailing?ref=title
There are indeed plenty of apps for that
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
angler said:
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Not possible as of yet.
The best dialer I've found on the Marketplace so far is 7Dialer. It doesn't quite have a speed dial function, but you can pin contacts to the dialer, making calls and texts just a swipe and a tap away. Very quick. And it looks very nice (conforms to Metro and the native dialer). Also has the smart dial/search functionality so you can hit some numbers to narrow people for fast searching.
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
nicksti said:
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
prjkthack said:
Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
TIP - Pin a User Group for quick access.
FiyaFleye said:
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Creating a group and pinning it is probably a better option though. Once the group is pinned, you tap the group, and see just those in the group. Then tap the contact from the group. Then select the number.
That way you don't need to add a tile for every speed dial contact.
It's 1 more tap than the old speed dial. Press phone. Press number. Press talk. Or was it press and hold number. Or was it press first digit and press and hold next digit. I think depending on the phone, it was all of these in the past.
This. Tap group. Tap Contact. Tap communication method.
With speed dial you needed to memorize what number you saved them under. This lets you know with out memorizing a number who you are going to call and how.
I wouldn't be surprised if they add smart dialing in the future. Maybe with Apollo. It is one of those efficient, productivity issues that should be a given with any smartphone imo.
I shall be surprised Microsoft will implement press and hold number digit to speed dial a phone number for WP. Microsoft think in a different way to dial most-used phone number in such a way to pin that contact as the live tile. There is no application around currently work as previous smart phone saying Anna or Belle. Apple also did not implement such kind of speed dial but a favourite in a tab of the iphone native phone dialer. I am used to the press and hold number speed dial despite I have to memorize which phone contact is set of which number digit.
RoboDad said:
The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
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Most of the time, its purely personal preference. And very rarely these days do I see people using "old fashioned speed dial" as it used to be pre-smartphone. Our smartphones are much smarter than having to hold down a single physical button to call someone (and thus, more complicated).
You throw the same concept onto a smartphone and you don't get the same result. You press the power button, swipe/pinch/tap/slide/triple-tap/whatever/dance/smile/sing/talk to make the lockscreen go away, tap the phone/dialer application, bring up the dial pad if its not automatically displayed, and THEN finally hold down a single digital digit to make it dial someone. This is not speed dial. The problem doesn't exist because speed dial the way we know it does not exist on a smartphone. You've got some shortcuts and apps and methods to make dialing easier, but there is no real speed dial on a smartphone.
Every phone has a different way of doing it, if it even has such functionality to begin with.
I didn't say that the "metro way" was more or less efficient than any other speed dial method on a smartphone, but it does follow Microsoft's whole people-first/social methodology instead of trying to emulate the function of a hardware button that simply does not work the same way on a smartphone. Microsoft didn't just copy everyone and throw the speed dial thing in there for the sake of it. Neither was the change/push to make your favorite things a pinned live tile(s) a change for its own sake. It has a purpose, and as a people-centric/social platform, that purpose is to bring your phone to life. Your contact is more than just a number you hold down and press. And yes, everyone may not like it, but to really appreciate this platform is to understand why Microsoft made certain things work the way they do and why Microsoft said hey, "If we really want people to buy into this whole live tile thing, we've gotta push it hard and show people that there are different ways to send and get information, and yes, even a different way of making a phone call." That they probably left a lot of old, tired and standard ideas on the chopping block because they believe in their platform and in how they designed their software, and that just adding speed dial to make that small percentage of people who still use it happy shows neither faith in what they originally set out to do nor faith in their ideas and concepts.
Certainly not change for the sake of it. Its because Windows Phone 7's sole purpose was change. This has been their whole spiel all along - to be different. And certainly some people won't like it, and that's fine, maybe Windows Phone 7 isn't for you. But if you can take a step back and look at some of things that Microsoft has done with the platform, to surface information and to bring things to life, I'm sure most people will clearly see that the method that they have chosen for their own platform exemplifies and brings out the best qualities and features of the platform, and fits perfectly into putting people first. That there is more than just one way to speed dial a contact yet still get more out of it than just a phone call at the same time.
Take some time and embrace how Windows Phone thinks you can do and accomplish things, and if you don't like it, then hey, Android and iOS are still out there. No harm done.
Also, there are only so many digits you can assign speed dial to, so unless you really just like everything, then you probably won't run into an issue of having too many tiles on your Start screen. The same issue presents itself on any other platform as well. You can have 100s of app icons on iOS, or 100s of widgets on your 100 Android home screens. Take your pick.
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
TIP on dialing from history
Marvin_S said:
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
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Actually, from history, if instead of tapping the name, you tap the phone icon to the left of the name, it will immediately dial the number last used for that contact.
Not exactly what you are asking for but if you press a number followed by a # in the dialer, it will show you the contact phone associated with it and the option to call it. The hard thing would be to find which is the number associated with the phone number of your interest.
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Help with recen call list

Under phone menu there is a call log but I can't figure out how to show the most recent calls first. It seems that the phone somehow prioritizes some calls at the top and you have to scroll down (in my case several pages) to find the calls that start with "today" and then go backwards in time.
Any way to change the sort so the call log is almost most recent first? How to do this seems to have escaped me? Thanks and apologize in advance if it's something blindingly obvious that I missed.
I have the 851 variant and my call log is sorted with the most recent first. I checked the menu and settings and do not see anything setting to alter or rearrange the call log order at all, outside of clearing the whole list.
So I'm not sure if it's a variant specific issue or setting.
Sorry I couldn't help any further, but I wanted to post so you wouldn't feel left in the wind and would know that perhaps it might be specific to your phone.
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I have the 851 variant and my call log is sorted with the most recent first. I checked the menu and settings and do not see anything setting to alter or rearrange the call log order at all, outside of clearing the whole list.
So I'm not sure if it's a variant specific issue or setting.
Sorry I couldn't help any further, but I wanted to post so you wouldn't feel left in the wind and would know that perhaps it might be specific to your phone.
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting to note it's not all variants - I'll keep searching
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting to note it's not all variants - I'll keep searching
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I would like to know about this too, it's very annoying
Stumbled upon the answer. I was looking through the pages and pages of "new" calls when I realized that these were all call log records that came over from my iPhone. I used the LG PC suite to transfer my texts, calls, etc. to the new phone and it seems that all the call records go in as "new" as sit above today or any recent calls. As I didn't want to lose my recent calls, I went through the call log call by call and deleted every call categorized as "new" and now it's working perfectly - call logs are properly displayed by date in descending order of most recent first.
I discovered this will on hold with LG support via "chat". They were more than useless. The rep said she didn't even have an G3 at her location to try and understand the problem and gave me the usual 'factory reset' to fix it. I told here there was zero percent chance I'd do a factory reset and have to spend hours to get my phone back to my setup without any assurance it would even work (which it wouldn't have if I'd done the PC Suite transfer again) and told her she should, in no way, categorize my call as "solved or finished" based on suggesting a factory reset. My expectation for tech support was near zero and LG didn't disappoint. The support was worthless. Thank goodness for XDA.

[Q] I need help finding some misplaced features

So...I get a call from someone I don't know, the number is there is my call log, I would like to save this number to a new or existing contact, and...WOW there is no way to do it! I highlight it like I used to, but the only option is to delete the call from the log. Not only can I not create a contact from the call log, but I cant copy it to paste later in the contacts area. I have also found out that I can't paste:confused into the dial pad anymore. This is a pain when I am online and copy a number I need to call. Now I have to use pen and paper to write the numbers down to accomplish both of these things.
The lack of the menu button is a bit of a sad thing too. I miss it over there to the left of the center button. Now I have no easy way to see what I can do within any given area.
I know these issues seem small, but I have had the phone for 3 days, and it's bugging me.
Just touch on the called number and the options to create or update are there. The menu button is now on the upper right and its called MORE.

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