Since it's unlikely we'll ever see the Sense UI, in the iteration that currently is available on the HTC Hero, i'm proposing that as a community we try and do our own clone for the Touch HD.
I know that a couple skins already exist, and kudos to their creators, but they're only surface skins, and i'm interested in proposing something that goes a little deeper.
How many people would be interested in contributing to the project?
Well the impression is that Manilla 2.5 is the new Sense for WM phones correct me if im wrong.
which is why i said the iteration of Sense UI that appears on the Hero device.
Dont waste your time. Its on android and you might aswell put your efforts in the backstone-android project here
http://blog.androidkernel.org/
Its not as easy as porting the UI from one winmo device to another. Think how long it has taken for the x1 panels to appear fully working. On top of this, it is in another OS and so that will bring difficulties in itself. Lets not forget that the hero isnt even a WVGA device.
I was thinking it could be done on top of another platform like even pointui. I don't expect it to be easy, but i don't think its impossible. Maybe saying the word port is incorrect.
There is nice new skin for Mobile Shell 3 which makes your phone look like with Sense UI.
http://www.mobilecustom.fr/forum/index.php/topic,2174.0.html
I already use this
Yes i know about the skins, i made reference to them in the first post, but they're only one layer deep, i want something approximating tf3d v2+ in its depth, but that looks like the Android version of HTC Sense UI.
DRTigerlilly said:
I was thinking it could be done on top of another platform like even pointui. I don't expect it to be easy, but i don't think its impossible. Maybe saying the word port is incorrect.
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Look at this youtube video I made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZXfhsOHerw
I suppose that you mean something like this. Still under development, and here are some pictures of the latest status.
On pointui community there are 2 topics on this:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/pointui-nextgen
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite
nice find!
preety sure sense ui is not for winmo......
i got this as reply from htc company
Hi tikejhya,
Touch Sense is an Android version of Touch Flo3D, so you have the original! Newer versions of Tf3D may be released for your device in the future, please monitor our support oages for updates.
Best Regards
MIke
Mike do you read?
Since it's unlikely we'll ever see the Sense UI, in the iteration that currently is available on the HTC Hero, i'm proposing that as a community we try and do our own clone for the Touch HD.
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That was the very first post...
cardefbel said:
Look at this youtube video I made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZXfhsOHerw
I suppose that you mean something like this. Still under development, and here are some pictures of the latest status.
On pointui community there are 2 topics on this:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/pointui-nextgen
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite
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cant download it
any changce to share it??
s-slawa said:
cant download it
any changce to share it??
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You can download is at the pointui community: http://community.pointui.com/
You'll need pointui 2.1 pro (payed version) or above.
Another user there made another customization. Look at his video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDyb-Tq-y3E
A good copy of Sense UI
There is a very good copy of the sense UI availabe for wisbar advance: check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6lIwKcBzws&feature=related
cardefbel said:
You can download is at the pointui community: http://community.pointui.com/
You'll need pointui 2.1 pro (payed version) or above.
Another user there made another customization. Look at his video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDyb-Tq-y3E
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thans for the quote
i triet to download it from pointui.com
but my browser says to me that the download is restricktet
also i saw the other video
and now i wait to the other version
like it better
beautiful work cardefbel & blueoceantube, can't wait for both of your releases!.
s-slawa said:
thans for the quote
i triet to download it from pointui.com
but my browser says to me that the download is restricktet
also i saw the other video
and now i wait to the other version
like it better
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you need to be register hehe
xhaavardx said:
There is a very good copy of the sense UI availabe for wisbar advance: check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6lIwKcBzws&feature=related
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Can we have this on ATT Fuze
or Thouch pro 2 ?
Need link Plz
cardefbel said:
Look at this youtube video I made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZXfhsOHerw
I suppose that you mean something like this. Still under development, and here are some pictures of the latest status.
On pointui community there are 2 topics on this:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/pointui-nextgen
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suiteto-come-pointsense-suite
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WOW this is awesome. I guess we say goodbye TF
sad ....rly sad.
Related
Hi there,
can anyone give me a link of where to download Touchflo 3d for Touch HD??
I've recently found a thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164 which compressed whole manila files to make the Touchflo 3d relatively smaller and faster to the original one, but this is for diamond only, I'm looking for something that suit for my touch hd, if anyone got what i'm looking for, please let know, many thanks!!
wrong post ?
dude, the Touch HD comes with Touchflo as standard, why on earth would you want to download it again ??
Also this is a the wrong part of the forum to post on !!, if you havent got it, then contact your phone provider
BulletproofBaba said:
dude, the Touch HD comes with Touchflo as standard, why on earth would you want to download it again ??
Also this is a the wrong part of the forum to post on !!, if you havent got it, then contact your phone provider
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I believe lynne02191 is asking for a compressed/sleeker version of HD Manila (i.e., the images in Manila's qtc files are compressed) that runs more smoothly, etc. than the stock version, and this would be the right place to discuss this, IMHO.
I think with the inherent capabilities of the HD, as well as the wonderful cooked ROMs people are making, Manila runs very well, and there is plenty of extra memory on the HD with it running, so a compressed/sleeker version may not be a priority.
Just my opinion, but this might explain why no one is trying to do something similar to the thread you linked, which was done to make HD manila run smoothly on the Diamond. Then again, someone may already be doing this, I do not know.
You may want to look here ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798) and look into the compression process.
sk806 said:
I believe lynne02191 is asking for a compressed/sleeker version of HD Manila (i.e., the images in Manila's qtc files are compressed) that runs more smoothly, etc. than the stock version, and this would be the right place to discuss this, IMHO.
I think with the inherent capabilities of the HD, as well as the wonderful cooked ROMs people are making, Manila runs very well, and there is plenty of extra memory on the HD with it running, so a compressed/sleeker version may not be a priority.
Just my opinion, but this might explain why no one is trying to do something similar to the thread you linked, which was done to make HD manila run smoothly on the Diamond. Then again, someone may already be doing this, I do not know.
You may want to look here ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798) and look into the compression process.
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Hi sk806,
Thanks for reply!
I've already been searching for a while, and I didn't found any version that is manila compressed but several .cabs which claimed are ported from the original blackstone manila.
after that, I installed all of them, but the result disappointed me, since I've encounterred many problems from the procedures.
anyway, like what u said, there are plenty of nice ROMs around there which run HD manila very well, so I won't bothering meself from searching anymore
try here for a improved TF3D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476433
afr33s said:
try here for a improved TF3D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476433
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thanks, it looks really nice, I'll test asap
KWBR's ROM; 'a Touch of HD' uses Chainfire's CFC
and TouchFLO runs VERY VERY nice, mean it's night and day difference!
i tried the "live patch" before flashing a full ROM but it didn't work on the HD, Chainfire is too busy at the moment to fix that up
BulletproofBaba said:
dude, the Touch HD comes with Touchflo as standard, why on earth would you want to download it again ??
Also this is a the wrong part of the forum to post on !!, if you havent got it, then contact your phone provider
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dude, lurk a bit more. you'll learn so many things that don't make sense at first glance
Sir.B said:
KWBR's ROM; 'a Touch of HD' uses Chainfire's CFC
and TouchFLO runs VERY VERY nice, mean it's night and day difference!
i tried the "live patch" before flashing a full ROM but it didn't work on the HD, Chainfire is too busy at the moment to fix that up
dude, lurk a bit more. you'll learn so many things that don't make sense at first glance
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So someone has used the CFC version. Nice. I have been meaning to try out kwbr's ROM anyway, and haven't flashed in a few days
Sir.B said:
KWBR's ROM; 'a Touch of HD' uses Chainfire's CFC
and TouchFLO runs VERY VERY nice, mean it's night and day difference!
i tried the "live patch" before flashing a full ROM but it didn't work on the HD, Chainfire is too busy at the moment to fix that up
dude, lurk a bit more. you'll learn so many things that don't make sense at first glance
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Hi Sir.B, thanks for letting me know that, I've actually been using the ROM 'a Touch of HD' for a while, and that's works really nice to me
Pointui Home 2 is Out.
Not testing yet, i just install it, but looks prety great!
http://www.pointui.com/
Runs and looks great, but things i dont like:
- Too much space at the buttom and
- i had to install it on the internal storage and not on the SD Card
But the rest is, as i said before, great. Good work i think.
Finally!
Looks and feels great - I think I would def upgrade to pro for unified messaging etc.
I am a happy bunny! Might just have to ditch touch flo 3d
Dont work for me Have a Swedish stock ROM.
runs great!!!
well it was running good until it locked up my device lol, soft reset time
I dont like it, something is missing
It looks really great and the animations are smooth. But it misses some features but I think they will come some time because it seems rather easy to write Apps for it. Not like Manila where you have many problems with adding your own stuff.
anyone know how to add a city?
mallman said:
anyone know how to add a city?
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http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather
Look here - http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather
beauty "skin" deep only. not impressed
configurable? look at all the trouble to add a city to the weather....
customization? not even unicode fonts
a thin layer of candy eye skin and after one touch...back to the old WM really, nothing to trade the tf3d for...uninstalled it after 15 minutes!
Raudi1 said:
http://community.pointui.com/topic/cities-and-wheather
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unfortunately none of that works. Even the folks on the forum are having problems. Looks like it isnt working correctly yet.... but it is still considered beta so ....... modding those files only makes all the weather disappear Guess I will wait on this one for a bit
KukurikU said:
beauty "skin" deep only. not impressed
configurable? look at all the trouble to add a city to the weather....
customization? not even unicode fonts
a thin layer of candy eye skin and after one touch...back to the old WM really, nothing to trade the tf3d for...uninstalled it after 15 minutes!
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yes going to have to agree here. I am open to trying out new versions, definitely has potential with some additions and things you mentioned
No Thanks
I was a massive fan of PointUI v1 and had been looking forward to v2 being another huge step forward.
However, I have to say that it looks like a great big bag of crap next to TF3d (and I'm not a big fan of TF3d). Furthermore it seems to have limited functionality, is only a plugin and although it openly states it is a beta, the tone of the feedback in this site is distinctly mixed.
I think I would forgive the bugginess if it just looked better and brought something I thought was useful. But even the screenshots on PointUI's own site look poor quality.
Lastly, the 'Pro' version is paid for software - so how much? What will it do that Mobile Shell and WAD don't? Maybe the applet development will make it a must have...but it certainly needs a few good skinners on the case...
In summary...disappointed - just my personal opinion
iain.fraser said:
I was a massive fan of PointUI v1 and had been looking forward to v2 being another huge step forward.
However, I have to say that it looks like a great big bag of crap next to TF3d (and I'm not a big fan of TF3d). Furthermore it seems to have limited functionality, is only a plugin and although it openly states it is a beta, the tone of the feedback in this site is distinctly mixed.
I think I would forgive the bugginess if it just looked better and brought something I thought was useful. But even the screenshots on PointUI's own site look poor quality.
Lastly, the 'Pro' version is paid for software - so how much? What will it do that Mobile Shell and WAD don't? Maybe the applet development will make it a must have...but it certainly needs a few good skinners on the case...
In summary...disappointed - just my personal opinion
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Agreed. Not impressed at all...I'm sticking with WAD.
mmm
Yup aggred , instaled it .. and it was not as " smoth " as the 1.X, why have small buttons?.. why have news feeds?
I have a theme now for TF3D and it kinda looks goods... staying with that for a while .. sorry point guys
I quite like it, but it seems that I'm in the minority.
I've added my home town to the weather applet without any trouble at all, also local news in the today feed. Not sure why someone was having a problem configuring that. Pilot error?
barbapappa_86 said:
Dont work for me Have a Swedish stock ROM.
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It is hardcoded. I have the same problem on my dutch device.It doesn't find the install path on localized devicesI didn't see any icon neither.
So I started it manually.
hendrixus said:
It is hardcoded. I have the same problem on my dutch device.It doesn't find the install path on localized devicesI didn't see any icon neither.
So I started it manually.
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Yup, me 2. Now its running and seems to work quite smooth. I´ll will look this up later on, now its just incomplete.
Hello!!!
Can someone do a TF3D theme like the new Diamond2 has? I saw that Duttys new rom 1.8 Extreme has the new look that is coming on the new Diamond2.
???????
Nobody ????
Take a look at the rom site, and go to Duttys rom and you can take a look of the theme.
I hope someone kind can do a theme like that.
What? I just don't know what you mean!
My TouchFlo on my HD looks like Dutty's one. It just has not as much functions. What do you mean with "theme"????
ask here.
he made the keyboard too......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482258
Parg said:
What? I just don't know what you mean!
My TouchFlo on my HD looks like Dutty's one. It just has not as much functions. What do you mean with "theme"????
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Hello!!
If you look att the ROM thread and in duttys thread you see that HTC has upgrade the TF3D.... to a much cooler ui...
That is what i mean......
v001011 said:
ask here.
he made the keyboard too......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482258
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Thank you....
dutty uses a new manila 3d build with landscape support. I didn't tried it yet as I own xperia and he hasn't yet released for my device but major hacks doesn't work anymore and, possibly, themes has to be modified to work on this new manila
But as It has been released form only 2 days I suggest you to sit down and wait or go to make a theme your own. Themes will come for sure
guap said:
dutty uses a new manila 3d build with landscape support. I didn't tried it yet as I own xperia and he hasn't yet released for my device but major hacks doesn't work anymore and, possibly, themes has to be modified to work on this new manila
But as It has been released form only 2 days I suggest you to sit down and wait or go to make a theme your own. Themes will come for sure
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I hope so... it would have been nice.........
Hello? Is it possible to make cab files for Touch HD with some features of Duttys HD XTREME?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483822
The most important for me are:
- callendar tab
- new clock settings and alarm look (hate old one)
- new keyboard
- new HTC Contact card
- new HTC Notification
Hope that someone will be able to make it. Changing the ROM isn't the best way to me. I think that many of You agree with this.
Thanks! You are the best!
Sounds really good features that I would like too...
What is also the HTC socialnetworks for facebook ?
I don't really agree with you dude, the best way is to change the ROM
it isn't so difficult
well, the cab is a good idea and a bad idea.....
itslike his trademark, i wouldnt give it away really....
I'd also say that the phone would run faster if you flashed the ROM, adding apps will probably not be as smooth.
mabe you can ask here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482258
he made the new keypad from dutty's rom 1.8, mabe if we ask he will make the touchflo too.
dedafmonteur said:
well, the cab is a good idea and a bad idea.....
itslike his trademark, i wouldnt give it away really....
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totally disagree. Dutty is a great coocker but clearly that manila was "stolen" from a new rom for diamond2, so isn't his creation. And I don't think he wants to keep it only for his rom, I think he's too busy to release a decent cab and effort all support request for it once released. He's releasing and testing for blackstone and xperia for now, I'm sure a cab will appears as soon as he finished the job
As far as I know, the "new" Manila was not stolen. Rather Dutty created the whole thing himself, as was stated by a beta tester in the appropriate thread. Of course I can be wrong though.
Crossposting!
Like I replied before, it can not be done. It's all intergratid into the new Manilla. It's a complete package. Justflash the ROM if you like the new features.
Ati75 said:
As far as I know, the "new" Manila was not stolen. Rather Dutty created the whole thing himself, as was stated by a beta tester in the appropriate thread. Of course I can be wrong though.
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I have a great faith in dutty's abilities but that's is simply impossibile We don't even know how to decompile/recompile lua script, some progress are only recently made with m9editor but we can't create ourselves such complicate funcions like landscape support.
Ati75 said:
As far as I know, the "new" Manila was not stolen. Rather Dutty created the whole thing himself, as was stated by a beta tester in the appropriate thread. Of course I can be wrong though.
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you are very wrong.
Ati75 said:
As far as I know, the "new" Manila was not stolen. Rather Dutty created the whole thing himself, as was stated by a beta tester in the appropriate thread. Of course I can be wrong though.
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hahaha. Dutty is the master of all ROMS, but do you really think he Photoshoped the whole interface together himself?
photoshop? lol
do you near imagine what's behind manila? Graphic is a really little stupid thing compared to all the rest, manila is lua+xml script
it would be a good idea ....
well, therefore somebody who have dutty 1.8 installed should try to find the necc. files. For now i have no time to install 1.8 - sorry - maybe in some days i have more time for it ..
cu camel
guap said:
photoshop? lol
do you near imagine what's behind manila? Graphic is a really little stupid thing compared to all the rest, manila is lua+xml script
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Well... that may be, but for me (and perhaps for some others too) the sexy interface of TouchFlo 3D is the main reason I bought a Diamond and later an HD... (well, the devices don't look that bad either).
I would hold back on Flashing the 1.8 EXTREME rom. There are some memory leaks and bugs left, right and centre. I suspect it i based on something swiped from the new Touch Diamond 2. It needs more work on it from HTC before the bugs are ironed out.
I currently have the 1.8 ROM from Dutty and i needed to make an emergency call and the phone pad disappeared (went completely white and blocky) Also Opera complained that it was out of memory at one point. I only had the xda-developers website open.
Memory usage at idle has increased by 20-30%
This isn't Dutty's fault however, he's done a good job of assembling together the new HTC software into a deployable package.
well i'd love the new TF3D but i won't be flashing any roms to my device just yet as its only a week old.
I may be very wrong about this but it would seem the new touch pro 2 is based on pretty much the same chipset as our beloved HD so as i see it we should be able to get this new sw running silky smooth eventually.
With that said does anyone know for sure the difference between qualcomm's 7200 chipset and the HD's 7201A chipset?
guap said:
totally disagree. Dutty is a great coocker but clearly that manila was "stolen" from a new rom for diamond2, so isn't his creation. And I don't think he wants to keep it only for his rom, I think he's too busy to release a decent cab and effort all support request for it once released. He's releasing and testing for blackstone and xperia for now, I'm sure a cab will appears as soon as he finished the job
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+1 I totally agree
Maybe we are a bunch of free testers for HTC and they are monitoring all out feedback, after all this is THE place for HTC Hardware testing, porting etc....
Am I right that this manila is v2.0 from a ROM which was released in an Africa ROM and was found by iruja?
cemetry
This video comes from a china forum（ the previous one also comes from that forum）.
There is the video:
h**p://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIwODA2NDQ4.html/v.swf
**=tt
You can compare with the previous one.
Both of them come from a china developer,Maybe a HTC insider？
this is just amazing... it looks like it's real, i think it is.
but can it be a theme? If it's a theme, he has not made it exact the same as the Surround. I mean, if you can make theme's so perfect, why make such big changes as for example the boot screen. on the surround its black background with green logo, and on the HD2 its a white background with a blue logo?????
I think its real and its coming!!!
yes, it's from Xda.cn, the developer is not from HTC, he/she maybe a seller of the HD2.
the video seems real.
p.s. the calling interface is so simple...
It´s coming!
Just a little patience
eikoooo said:
yes, it's from Xda.cn, the developer is not from HTC, he/she maybe a seller of the HD2.
the video seems real.
p.s. the calling interface is so simple...
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hello
hello
question. you could help us investigate the xda website of China?
by language
thanks
thanks
flappie™ said:
this is just amazing... it looks like it's real, i think it is.
but can it be a theme? If it's a theme, he has not made it exact the same as the Surround. I mean, if you can make theme's so perfect, why make such big changes as for example the boot screen. on the surround its black background with green logo, and on the HD2 its a white background with a blue logo?????
I think its real and its coming!!!
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The build ported to HD2 may be the older version and as you can see it doesn't have HTC OEM packages installed.
May be the porter used the MS WP7 SDK kit to port.
it is a real old build , look at the "Music + Videos" on the hd2 and "Music & Videos" on the wp7 phone .
edit , could it be a leaked test build from HTC it self ?
ceesheim said:
it is a real old build , look at the "Music + Videos" on the hd2 and "Music & Videos" on the wp7 phone ./QUOTE]
ceesheim said:
edit , could it be a leaked test build from HTC it self ?
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Well who knows until it leaks all over. Hopes are getting bigger again, lets see what happens.
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no new builds can be port to hd2
unless there are updates for recent wp7 phones i think.
Cool beans, i wonder when the ROM will be readily available
amazing video
Think also its real, just a matter of time
there is a second new video of wp7 on hd2
youtube
.com
/watch?v=K-zOiqVX_aA
can any one try to find if its possible to download this version somewhere??
i m bit eager to get wp7 on my hd2 now
CRACING said:
The build ported to HD2 may be the older version and as you can see it doesn't have HTC OEM packages installed.
May be the porter used the MS WP7 SDK kit to port.
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I tried to say, that it has to be real. because íf it's a theme, he would likely made the theme exact the same as on the Surround. and that isn't but further i don't nothing about this, and my deep respect for those who have, and made it so fast
This is just my opinion but I honestly prefer WM 6.5 over WP7. It just reminds me too much of the closed off Iphone interface. It looks like my sister's Zune. And that to me defeats the purpose of having a phone if your crappy Media player can look exactly the same. Again, just my opinion
twitch153 said:
This is just my opinion but I honestly prefer WM 6.5 over WP7. It just reminds me too much of the closed off Iphone interface. It looks like my sister's Zune. And that to me defeats the purpose of having a phone if your crappy Media player can look exactly the same. Again, just my opinion
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Yeah you are right too. I don't understand why all OS are slightly following iphone interface. like example on WM 6.5.x, the lockscreen is similar to slide to unlock in iphone.
Like on iphone I see lot of icons, in WP7 I see tiles.
WM is totally different and isn't comparable with other OS. Windows Mobile and may be Android also is a pocket pc but iphone, wp7, and etc are just phones aka smartphones.
nirvanahh said:
This video comes from a china forum（ the previous one also comes from that forum）.
There is the video:
h**p://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjIwODA2NDQ4.html/v.swf
**=tt
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It's still the 6077 build Not RTM...
the most direct way to get the answer is call the phone numbers show in the video. plus 0086 as the country code.
13622373325
18603051623
Please keep these posts in general.
~~Tito~~