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Forgive me if this has been discussed before!
I am seriously considering getting the Xda Orbit, but am slightly hesitant because of the lack of keyboard. My pda background is Palm, my current model being the treo 650. I have never owned a PPC/WM5 device!
I have a dislike for using the stylus to 'poke' the screen for input and have often shied away from apps that require stylus input. Clearly I am going to have to overcome this 'illness' if I get the Orbit
I know its early days, but can anyone tell me to what extent can I expect to avoid stylus use with the Orbit? I am thinking in terms of when I have to send sms text and the odd email plus quite a lot of appointment entering usage. I guess this boils down to how much 'One handedness' there is in WM5.
TIA
Hey I am exactly same as you. I hate poking with stylus as I am more used to using Nokia phones.
I love Spb software based Full Screen Keyboard this allows me to use my fingers to type.
raven2000 said:
Hey I am exactly same as you. I hate poking with stylus as I am more used to using Nokia phones.
I love Spb software based Full Screen Keyboard this allows me to use my fingers to type.
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There is Phonepad for you to use.
My XDA Orbit arrived 2 days ago, works like a charm, but..... i cannot find the "phone pad" option for inputting. The Prophet had it, but not the Orbit.
Does anybody know if this is just the Orbit? or does the HTC version have the phone pad missing as well?
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My XDA Orbit arrived 2 days ago, works like a charm, but..... i cannot find the "phone pad" option for inputting. The Prophet had it, but not the Orbit.
Does anybody know if this is just the Orbit? or does the HTC version have the phone pad missing as well?
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You need to install it. Search the forum
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
Go for it you will love it if not sell it many will be after it if you don't like it.
Or you could wait for the zinc (feb 07 or so) if you can do without the gps in-built?
There is an issue with MicroSD's that possibly dosnt effect all units. See other threads.
Apart from that and if you clock it to 250MHz it works extremely well. I loved my BlueAngel but even my old stylus feels fat now. The jog dial / track ball is mega and internal GPS a breeze. The slower CPU also has the benefit of longer battery life.
I am currently looking for one for a friend on eBay and they are going for £300+ so if you dont like it can always sell and keep old phone...
ps. I use a Sandisk UltraII 2gb MicroSD which may speed up map access etc, its generally slightly slower than my 500MHz BlueAngel but no problem.
I'm a new user of the Xda Orbit, my first WM PDA after owning a tapwave zodiac and the first phone I can really type text messages on. For a PDA it's light, snappy (my last wm device was a Compaq Aero 15xx), has an excellent battery life and the GPS works a treat.
The biggest benefit is the size, though, compared to the other similarly featured Xda's in the o2 lineup this one is TINY, it dropped the jaws of my techy colleagues to the floor.
I find TomTom to be pretty fast and accurate getting a fix, route calculations are fast enough, but it is a little slow to start up initially- overclocking helps but not much. I have overclocked to 260 for PocketSNES and on other occasions but find it normally fast enough to be comfortable - quite a feat with a meer 200mhz!
I'd say go for it, I'm posting this message from Mine now! got 3 tabs open text-mode in NetFront- browsing perfection!
I have had the following:
XDA II
XDA IIs
XDA IIi
XDA Exec
And recently upgraded to the Orbit. I must say that it is the closest I have come to being 100% happy with an XDA.
Had no idea how compact this device is. No more holding a brick to your ear, this is an aesthetically pleasing device - even for non PDA'ers.
I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I thought the GPS would be just another gimick and there was no way it was going to work properly without an external antenna - WRONG! Stick TomTom 6.02 on it and away you go. Managed nearly seven hours of GPS directed driving before the battery got too low (have now got a car charger).
I have been waiting for a device that combined all the functionality of a good PDA and phone in a phone size package and here it is.............and they throw in a GPS and FM Radio to boot.
and one more thing if you get a decent set of headphones (either buy an adapter or do a bit of DIY soldering) it's a pretty decent MP3 player too. 2GB micro SD from Moby Memory for about £40 and painless synching with Media Player 11 and your away.
The main reason I have a PDA phone is for Terminal Server. I provide software support and it gives me the freedom to get out of the House/Office and still be able to support my Clients. I was always able to justify carrying around a house brick (EXEC) because of this. Now I don't have to this phone is great and I have to say it ..... Gorgeous.
OK now it's out - I love my Orbit!!!
Go get one - I'm pretty sure you'll be happy!
Hope this helped!
Since a couple of weeks ago, I'm also the proud owner of a HTC P3300, after owning a Qtek S100 for a year and a half.
I'm truly very happy with my new P3300.
Almost all of the features have been mentioned in other replies to your post (and I agree with them), so, I want to add that, despite having the same 64Mb of RAM as the S100, it seems to me (I'm no expert) that memory management works better (probably WM5 instead of WM2003 has something to to with it) than it did on the S100.
Also the new 2Mpixel camera works very well, the picture quality is very good. It doesn't have flash or 'macro mode' selector, but I can live without it.
The phone capabilities are good (I had a lot of problems with the S100 not relating phone numbers to names or contact photos).
Apart from a little problem I had with activesync (mentioned in another thread and already solved) it's been working perfectly.
As for the GPS softwares, I use Destinator 6 (instead of TomTom) and Navitel (with custom Madeira map) for navigation and both of them work perfectly.
Bottom line, and yes, I'll be repating myself, I'm very very happy with my P3300.
regards,
thanks for the advice guys! looks like im off to get myself one then!
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
as far as i could see and i've read no it doesnt have an IR port, but surely using your phone as a tv remote isn't the be all and end all is it?
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I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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Hi
It doesn't have infrared, but if I where you I would treat myself to one of these
Link
I have one and along with the Orbit this remote is superb.
Rich
today i upgrade
T-Mobile mda compact 3 with HTC software and it is better then t-mobile software it is quickly
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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I asked HTC about making this device with consumer grade IR and 3G to make this a complete device. This is the response i got from HTC.
"Thank you for getting in contact with HTC regarding your recommendations and support. its more than likely a phone will come out with the functions you have asked. Its a case that at the moment a trade of as to be implemented due to technology reasons due to the GPS functions incorporated in to the phone, which requires other hardware to be dropped from the phone. The GPS being implemented is still fairly new concept and even through I don't have details of future phones its only a matter of time before it happens. Personally i'm waiting for a phone/GPS with slide out keyboard, which again can only be a matter of time.
Thank You for your comments"
All in all adding IR and 3G would make this one compact complete device. Use it to control your gadgets, navigate you around when driving, using it for phone and all manner of PPC functionality with virtually every connection option. One day it will be reality.
Just a snippet from HTC
Hope that helps.
Absolutely YES
Look at my signature, I've worked with nearly all HTCs from an early stage. If you can live without a keyboard, this is THE device to have at the moment.
HTC are nearing perfection!
Best device ever released (excluding the Universal for business use, still unbeatable).
I just got one - having been through the magician (which the wife now loves and uses) and the exec (which I still use as an excellent business tool) I have got to say that I am bowled over by the Orbit/3300 - WM5.0 AKU3, GPS, great screen, brilliant battery life (I get 3 days moderate usage out of mine between charges - 10 calls per day, push email on 18 hours per day, occasional GPS use!
GET ONE - U WILL NOT REGRET IT - and per other posts, if you don't like it I am sure it will get snapped up on EBAY
fox 2 said:
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
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Hi,
You might like to check out the thread on the General Forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291461
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289166 (TomTom 6 instead of copilot)
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289243
Ann
Saw this on another site, looks good. Might just splash out for this.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145136&partner=froogle
Jeff
sweetttttt must have one... when i have a working orbit
Still bricked? Those peeps in Glasgow are worth every penny!
Jeff
jthspace said:
Saw this on another site, looks good. Might just splash out for this.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145136&partner=froogle
Jeff
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Hi!
Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
Regards,
PK
Dear,
I just take it from this web, and I found It's can used with 2 program
1 is WMP and the other is HTC Audio Manager(but you need install drive that come with package). It's very good smalltalk and remote control but I used p800w It's can't used HTC Audio booster, that made me sad because I like Bass Boost.
Have Any one have Base Boost that can used and work with p800w?
Thanks a lot.
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Hi!
Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
Regards,
PK
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Hi, it sort of works. When I got the package, there was a sticker over the supported models - the O2 Xda Orbit was "not" supported. As I had changed the ROM to the HTC generic version, I loaded the drivers and plugged it in. The adapter works, and I can use normal headphones BUT none of the buttons on the remote function with the O2 XDA
The Artemis and the XDA may just be that little bit different (more than just the case) which may be why they put a sticker over the supported models info. By the way, it was sold as an Artemis accessory and not an O2 XDA accessory, so I cant really send it back.
Therefore, if anyone in the UK has an Artemis (not an O2 XDA) and wants the adapter, they can buy it off me for £15 plus postage. It is brand new, used once, in its original box with driver disk. If you want to pay by PayPal, it's £2 extra to cover the fees, otherwise NOCHEX or direct bank transfer.
Jeff
jthspace said:
Hi, it sort of works. When I got the package, there was a sticker over the supported models - the O2 Xda Orbit was "not" supported. As I had changed the ROM to the HTC generic version, I loaded the drivers and plugged it in. The adapter works, and I can use normal headphones BUT none of the buttons on the remote function with the O2 XDA
The Artemis and the XDA may just be that little bit different (more than just the case) which may be why they put a sticker over the supported models info. By the way, it was sold as an Artemis accessory and not an O2 XDA accessory, so I cant really send it back.
Therefore, if anyone in the UK has an Artemis (not an O2 XDA) and wants the adapter, they can buy it off me for £15 plus postage. It is brand new, used once, in its original box with driver disk. If you want to pay by PayPal, it's £2 extra to cover the fees, otherwise NOCHEX or direct bank transfer.
Jeff
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no, they are the same phone, hardware wise. I have the remote and a O2 XDA Orbit and it works. You just need to install the HTC Audo Driver update for the P3300. Otherwise, the remote won't work when the phone switches off to save power. This stupid bug affects all apps, including in the middle of a phone conversation. I think that is mainly the reason for the audio driver update. I don't have the HTC Audio Manager, anyone know how I can get hold of it?
The remote works with WMP. It also works with the FM Radio app, pressing play mutes it (rather than the mute button on the side), volume control (not the main phone volume) works, FF/FR switches between preset stations.
The green/red phone buttons works even when running other apps like TomTom or TCPMP. But non of the other soft buttons can be mapped to functions in TCPMP or any other program for that matter as they don't exist like your average hardware buttons on the phone itself. So as a result, you can't assign a button to activate Voice Dial or Voice Command.
The other problem is more to do with the new ExtMiniUSB port. I cannot charge the phone while I listen to the radio or mp3s for that matter! Compare to older generations of HTC phones which has a mini usb + separate 2.5mm headphone socket, this is quite stupid as I believe many ppl charge their phone via USB at work and also listen to the mp3s.
Ok, i was wondering why HTC was giving such strange answers about the useless power consumption.
HTC > (there will be no update to solve this, because it is not knowing issue.)???
Its strange behavior in my opinion when the phone wakes up completely after touching one of the buttons and never goes to sleep again. Not even switches the screen off. It uses more energy that way.
I’ve made a application for this problem just to switch the screen completely off after using the buttons on the remote. It runs in the background and waits for a change in the SystemPowerState. When the backlight dims it will switch of the screen after 1 second.
I can’t prevent the device from waking up but this works good enough.
Next step is to hook in to the remote interface driver and make the buttons act like normal devicebuttons so it would be possible to use another MP3 player. But I ‘m afraid my knowledge about this is not enough. Maybe someone can help me with that.
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You just need to install the HTC Audo Driver update for the P3300.
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Hi,
I downloaded the updated driver from HTC when I got the remote (instructions suggested this) and it made no difference at all.
Oh, Well, it looks nice on the bookcase!
Jeff
humps said:
.... I don't have the HTC Audio Manager, anyone know how I can get hold of it?
....
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Yes, download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39583&d=1179845126
Regards,
PK
paalkr said:
Yes, download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39583&d=1179845126
Regards,
PK
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THANK YOU!
jthspace said:
Hi,
I downloaded the updated driver from HTC when I got the remote (instructions suggested this) and it made no difference at all.
Oh, Well, it looks nice on the bookcase!
Jeff
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Oh well, sorry to hear that didn't help. I received my remote on the 17th, noticed it didn't work too well even after installing the driver that came with the remote. Then found the news that Audio Driver Update was release on the 16th so I got the download and it worked from then on.
it tries to you works in stereo
Works fine
I'm been using the rc for 2 weeks now and one must say it's working exactly the way I expected it to. The only lil hitch is the missing "stand-by" so you waste some amount of battery.
Maybe it's possible to check with a small service whether Audio Manager is running in playback mode and react e.g. with turning of background lights.
I'll give it a try next week in office (need my VS).
Anybody with experience?
wold you recommend one then?
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Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
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For me it's working without drivers with HTC Audiomanager, WMP and with the FM radio and it's fine to use my own headphones.
HTC's stupid headphone/power socket combo & ultimatum
Dear HTC,
Please, if your are not the appropriate person to be considering my email, pass it on to someone who can adequately able to address my concerns.
Briefly, I am a huge fan of HTC handsets, having been a the proud owner of no less than 5 different models in the last 3 years.
My particular issue is with the HTC TYTN and TYTN II (or Kaiser) models. I am far from alone in this concern, as a simple Google search will reveal, so I am not going to waste time justifying myself. I'll launch immediately into the criticism and the request for an explanation, etc...
2 years ago, my first TYTN had to be replaced after 3 months because the ill-conceived combo-headphone-power mini USB socket became faulty. After 13 months it became faulty again. Since it was out of guarantee, i had to repair it myself. A month later however, when the socket once again broke, I installed a separate headphone socket in the side of the case myself, it was easy... TOO easy...
Since then my original TYTN has been fine.
A few weeks ago, I purchased the new TYTN II or Kaiser. I knew beforehand that the headphone and power sockets were once again the same. However, I assumed that they would have been strengthened due to the bad pres the previous model had received over this issue.
I was sadly mistaken. Within 3 weeks I have had to replace my TYTN II after the headphones started crackling when I moved the headphone cable. After examination, the mini-USB socket is IDENTICAL to the original TYTN,and bending in the same way. I have now stopped recommending this phone to people due to this. Either you don't intent users of this handset to use headphones, or you dont care that the socket isn't up to the job!
Considering that I influence thousands of people through my website in their choice of hanset upgrades, I am sure that HTC will feel the financial blow of my decision, at least slightly.
My questions are as follows:
1.) Why, after all the bad press the initial single connector design got, did HTC decide to do exactly the same stupid thing with the Kaiser (TYTN II)?
2.) Are you prepared to issue me, free of charge, with a a
brand new model, with a SEPARATE headphone socket, for which I will write an article in the magazine I work for singing your praises and recommending your improved Kaiser II, with the separate stereo headphone socket?
I formally give you 7 days to reply to my satisfaction, considering I have spent nearly £1000 with you. Failing to do so will result in a loss of revenue to yourselves totaling at least many hundreds of thousands of dollars/pounds.
Sincerely
Lawrence Bowen
Those with the remote who want to save power when using it as an mp3 player, use MortSaver. basicall you can set it to turn screen off after a predetimend time. Therfore every time you use your remote, it normally turns on the sreen, and never turns off wasting battery whlle its sitting in your pocket.
Mort saver turns if off again after each use of the remote, so you can leave it in your pocket with the knowledge you are not draining you battery.
now Ill I need is some equalizer I can use with Mediaplayer!
XDA-BOJ said:
Those with the remote who want to save power when using it as an mp3 player, use MortSaver. basicall you can set it to turn screen off after a predetimend time. Therfore every time you use your remote, it normally turns on the sreen, and never turns off wasting battery whlle its sitting in your pocket.
Mort saver turns if off again after each use of the remote, so you can leave it in your pocket with the knowledge you are not draining you battery.
now Ill I need is some equalizer I can use with Mediaplayer!
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Perfect! mortsaver worked for me.
With the attached file you have some kind of equalizer. Your using an equalizer to optimize the sound and this prog. realy does the trick!
regards
Cheers already found this and its on the latest touch 4.01 ROM.
combination with Mortsaver and 8G SDHC card now makes the HTC3300 a very usable MP3 Player
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-Dash-3G
the only thing is it comes stock with wm 6.1 and we're on here with wm 6.5 already
yessssssssssss!
personally i think thats an awful price to launch at.
i mean look at the iphone 3g, i think its price right now is 99 with 2 years..
dont get me wrong im proqabably going to get the dash3g anyways but the price just sucks.
im just waiting till i actually have 3g at home which isnt looking good at the moment
Got mine yesterday
I finally got my snap yesterday (HTC branded) and yes it is shipping with 6.1 if one is interrested I can probably dump the language files and we could add those languages to the 6.1 ROM for the dash ??
Cheers
Stef
Got mine today... Do we have any idea how to make the up/down buttons on the side actually scroll as opposed to just controlling system volume?
would it be possible to dump the 3G junk from the new Excalibur and build it into the old Excalibur? cause that would be sweet.
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would it be possible to dump the 3G junk from the new Excalibur and build it into the old Excalibur? cause that would be sweet.
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The Dash1 is not 3g compatable if thats what your suggesting. You just have to upgrade to the snap!
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would it be possible to dump the 3G junk from the new Excalibur and build it into the old Excalibur? cause that would be sweet.
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That's hardware, not firmware xD
I thought Dash 3G is the Maple (HTC Snap) ? not Excalibur, if it is, why discuss in here ?
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I thought Dash 3G is the Maple (HTC Snap) ? not Excalibur, if it is, why discuss in here ?
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Because a lot of Dash (excal) users want it, so its a good place to post updates since the Maple forum here on xda deals with the UK version not the T-Mobile version, which will change as more people get the T-Mo version.
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I thought Dash 3G is the Maple (HTC Snap) ? not Excalibur, if it is, why discuss in here ?
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snap(usa) is a different version phone it looks like the excalbur but when you look at it the excalibur has the ball to scroll as the snap(usa) has the d pad, the snap(usa) in comparison to the dash is smaller and is the keypad is kind of close to each other. the buttons on the snap(usa) is blue to which as the button on the excalibur is red. the snap(usa) has a button on it to open inner circle the excalibur doesnt come with inner circle the snap is from a differnent wireles company i think at&t i cant remember but the excalibur is for tmobile so in a way they are kind of the same but they are on different cell phone companies....with that being said it still comes with the same wm6.1 on both phones but i think in europe and asia it has the rolling ball as the scroller so that what makes them very similar but in the us its going to be different from each other
How could I make my phone like that.
5 hours talk time, 9 days stand by.
Is it Wi-Fi Certified ?
Doesn't look like it has GPS? My work just got me this cheap sanyo phone for 50 bucks and it has gps on it, and now I don't think I'd ever by a phone without it.
Dash 3g does have GPS
Hi,
I have lines all over my screen (no bootloader mode ) which change colour, also after a hard reset, but i can receive gsm signal, but I see nothing on my screen.
Maybe i will reflash it this evening, but I think it will be game over...
Think the internal display is broke (the glass is perfectly ok), i did nothing special and kept it in the leather cover in my pocket...
Anyone has a tip for a new htc phone, not too expensive with gps & wifi ?
I saw you have cheap second hands p3300's for only €100, but it would be my third one then, so i'd rather like another type this time.
Anyone suggests another newer HTC with GPS+WIFI+PHONE that costs -€200?
It may be a second hand also, as long as three above options are possible.
Thanks!
Best regards,
Innovator
just my opinion, some faster device with bigger ram/rom capacity than artemis, maybe second hand dimond or tytn 2, You can probably find under 200 €
I recommend the HTC Polaris
Htc hd2 leo
drlalitbida said:
Htc hd2 leo
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under 200€, I don't believe, if You find somewhere please let me know!
HD Touch Pro 2
pppppppffff just missed a htc hd touch pro 2 for only €300!!!
First I was interested in the diamond 2, but don't like the metal+black front.
going to pay something more €375 for the hd touch pro with keyboard !!!
I checked out out the videos and felt in love, cannot help it
For my first p3300 I also paid €550 back in the days, so why not this professional one.
It's not so thick if you check the comparison pictures and videos :
http://pocketnow.com/review/htc-touch-pro2
HD Touch is too big...
well, if that is the sum you are wanting to invest...I advise you to go get yourself the iphone 3gs! sells around 550€ unlocked new...
i have ditched microsoft for good...and I am seriously impressed starting from my macbook pro 13,3" to my phone...
been an alltime windows freak...but seeing how easy cumputing can be with macintosh i will never return!
greetz
if you spend a lot of money now i personally would go for the HTC HD2
As the HD2 will support windows mobile 7. The artemis thanks to xda has had a beautifull life, and i think that the HD2 with the capacitive display can serve you for just as long.
Personally i'm soon buying an omnia i900 to replace my p3300 for the simple reason that i can get it for 75 euros used, and can still sell my p3300 for nearly the same. For the money the htc diamond is really cheap as well.
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I recommend the HTC Polaris
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Is The Polaris your talking about also know as Touch Cruise and XDA_Orbit 2 ?