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Android is a new open source mobile operating system that Google developed and an SDK has just been made available.
It would be great to see this ported to the Universal if its possible.
I don't see why it would not run since the Universal can already run Linux (to some extent) and Android is just based on that. Whether and to what extent the hardware can be supported is another question that only our programmers can answer. As we can surely count HTC out on supporting their legacy devices it might not be worth anybodies time in the end.
SDK for Android would not help at all. It is just a set of headers and import libraries. To port something to a device you need complete source codes of its kernel, software, etc. Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
mamaich said:
Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
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Nobody uses NOR these days, it's too expensive and provides no real
benefit over NAND. The XIP days are over.
I hate java with passion, but i don't see any reason why Android software
will not be running on the universal.
Any news? I mean: can Universal run an Android ROM?
I saw something on tytnII, is there an hope?
can anyone confirm if android requires a customised hardware or minimum requirements....
By The Looks Of It I Shouldnt See Why Not...
I Saw That Video Of It On The Tytn And It Looks Like Its Just A Linux Based Kernel Booting Though Haret.
Theirs Already Some Pretty Good Progress With Linux On The UNI And I Dont See Why It Shouldnt Be Possible To Patch This Up. (Wish I Could But Im Not A Linux Coder )
maybe something like this
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could be done for univ.
Getting A Replacement
I Get My Replacement XDA Exec On Monday Hopefully So Ill See If I Can Do Anything. No Promises Though
Regards,
OllieD
It looks promising but I am also awaiting the Ubuntu Mobile edition for PCC: it looks awesome!
if it has to run java bytecode
hi a .CAB solution should be possible. tis my prefered choice at present. KVM with class jar anyone??
any news ?
Kaiser can run Android, any ROM for Uni?
In this thread we have Android ported in to a Kaiser, hope someone is working on an Android ROM for UNI!!
It looks very nice the interface
Does anyone knows more info about this?
Thanks
Gracias
Any news on Android for Uni?
I've been trying to get it to work on my ELFin too, but i gave up when i only managed to get the Linwizard running without startx... (i dont know how to telnet and startx -.-)
Any news on this?
I'm thinking of getting a universal but i'm gathering info on it atm!
Has anyone been able to get some real progress on this matter?
I installed this onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.
hye !
i also tried to install android on my universal, but it didn't work at all, i only had a black sreen and it vibrate without stopping. if someone has an idea, or a new thread were we can find out a running android os for uni... i take it !
Very keen on this
Is there a project? .. I'm a developer and would be willing to assist, but i haven't got enough experience with these devices to start the project off myself...
Count me in as a beta tester
It would be great to have Android on Uni!!
So this news means that very soon developers can start working on android to be ported on other devices!!!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.
Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..
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it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port
Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!
this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions
Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore
Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms
htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway
Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier
This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
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im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.
AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Hello everybody!
I have FW4, VS2010 Ult, XNA Game Studio 4, ExpressionBlend 4. I want to start development for WP7 and found MS' toolchain (467Mb ISO!), but it's huge! (and no separate components is available). What else do I need to develop for WP7? Guessed I need phone emulator and some libraries/SDK, but cannot find appropriate packages. Can somebody help me, please?
Also, do I need unlocked image? What exactly is locked in emulator?
Thanks in advance.
The only basics you really need Visual Studio, and this download which is the Developer Tools Package, it contains all the files, the emulators, etc
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...cf-a63a-4f97-952c-8b51b34b00ce&displaylang=en
One thing you should certainly take a look at is the Silverlight for Windows Phone Toolkit, which you can get here:
http://silverlight.codeplex.com/releases/view/55034
It's stuff that really should be in the main SDK download, but it simply isn't.
Can anyone direct me to a place?
If you are a noob you should look at the google app inventor, while if you are experienced in developing you can look at the android sdk tool.
can i follow with android.com
http://developer.android.com/ is a good place to start. I would also strongly suggest learning regular Java properly first, or at least get a basic understanding of it if you haven't already, as it will make developing for Android far easier.
Sorry in advance if there's a tutorial already out, but i can't seem to find it. I want to begin by modding themes. I have d/l and installed apk manager, sdk tools, java, eclipse and have, as far as i know, associated everything properly. My prog exp is little: some visual basic and turbo pascal in college, along with a flirting fascination with assembly. My thought was i would begin by modding code instead of learning java outright, but if i have to learn c or java that is just fine. where? Anyway, every time i run script.bat in apk manager, i receive an error. Put .apk in mod folder, run script.bat, start project (the .apk is (1)) 1, decompile...error! what am i doing wrong? If anything, just point me in the direction of a good tutorial.
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Sorry in advance if there's a tutorial already out, but i can't seem to find it. I want to begin by modding themes. I have d/l and installed apk manager, sdk tools, java, eclipse and have, as far as i know, associated everything properly. My prog exp is little: some visual basic and turbo pascal in college, along with a flirting fascination with assembly. My thought was i would begin by modding code instead of learning java outright, but if i have to learn c or java that is just fine. where? Anyway, every time i run script.bat in apk manager, i receive an error. Put .apk in mod folder, run script.bat, start project (the .apk is (1)) 1, decompile...error! what am i doing wrong? If anything, just point me in the direction of a good tutorial.
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I'm not sure if what you're looking for would be there, but have you checked the General Android Development forum? http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
I'm sure you would be able to get more detailed help there, since you are talking about non device specific development. Good luck!
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I'm not sure if what you're looking for would be there, but have you checked the General Android Development forum? http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
I'm sure you would be able to get more detailed help there, since you are talking about non device specific development. Good luck!
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Thank you! I've seen some, but not all. I have a nitro, so dev would be geared towards that. further along i was/would ask how you get the emulator to approximate the lg nitro, but for now i thought i'd stick with just requesting a solid tut.
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Thank you! I've seen some, but not all. I have a nitro, so dev would be geared towards that. further along i was/would ask how you get the emulator to approximate the lg nitro, but for now i thought i'd stick with just requesting a solid tut.
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Never messed with it, to be honest... I've got so many things I want to do but can't seem to find a good starting point for any of it. Pretty sure I've downloaded eclipse, JDK, and the android SDK in both windows and linux environments but that's about as far as I've gone... I may have installed them, not 100% sure. I get side-tracked too easily. :cyclops: