Enabling 3g - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I have just upgraded from a Kaiser to the TP2.
Using comm. manager on the Kaiser I could manually select 3G to be on or off.
I installed advanced config manager and enabled the 3G tab in comm. manager but it remains greyed.
Any data connection I make appears to connect in Gprs mode with no 3G or H icon displaying in the top bar.
How do I get 3G working on the TP2?
Am I missing something here?

samsat said:
I have just upgraded from a Kaiser to the TP2.
Using comm. manager on the Kaiser I could manually select 3G to be on or off.
I installed advanced config manager and enabled the 3G tab in comm. manager but it remains greyed.
Any data connection I make appears to connect in Gprs mode with no 3G or H icon displaying in the top bar.
How do I get 3G working on the TP2?
Am I missing something here?
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It automatically goes to 3G if it's available. I don't get 3G in my house. But you don't have to do anything, it's automatic.

T-Mobile removed the icons for the mode. They only did a half-ass job though as the mode shows up once a data connection is established over the bars. Oops! I think this is an attempt to hide the fact that on the roads and byways, most of T-Mobile's network is still GPRS - not even EDGE!
Find one of the Icon packs here on XDA - they work. It will connect in 3G automatically if its available. You can shut that off (doing so saves battery if you're in a known no-3G area as it won't search for the signal) on the Phone settings option if you wish.

Genesis3 said:
T-Mobile removed the icons for the mode. They only did a half-ass job though as the mode shows up once a data connection is established over the bars. Oops! I think this is an attempt to hide the fact that on the roads and byways, most of T-Mobile's network is still GPRS - not even EDGE!
Find one of the Icon packs here on XDA - they work. It will connect in 3G automatically if its available. You can shut that off (doing so saves battery if you're in a known no-3G area as it won't search for the signal) on the Phone settings option if you wish.
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T-Mobile has the icons for the 3G mode. It has the "E" for Edge and "3G" for 3G.
It automatically connects to 3G, there's no need to search for anything. The only reason you'd want that is if you want to NOT use 3G.

ace10134 said:
T-Mobile has the icons for the 3G mode. It has the "E" for Edge and "3G" for 3G.
It automatically connects to 3G, there's no need to search for anything. The only reason you'd want that is if you want to NOT use 3G.
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Yes and no.
The "standby" icons for data mode available ("G", "E", "3G", or "H") are missing from the T-Mobile load. The proper mode does identify over the antenna bars once a data connection comes up, but in data-standby, its missing.
This is an intentional omission as the standard Icon pack from HTC includes these. If you load one of the icon packs off XDA they will "magically appear."
I like knowing what mode is available (not just in use, if any is in use) so I have one of the other icon packs loaded - plus I think they're far more pretty

Genesis3 said:
Yes and no.
The "standby" icons for data mode available ("G", "E", "3G", or "H") are missing from the T-Mobile load. The proper mode does identify over the antenna bars once a data connection comes up, but in data-standby, its missing.
This is an intentional omission as the standard Icon pack from HTC includes these. If you load one of the icon packs off XDA they will "magically appear."
I like knowing what mode is available (not just in use, if any is in use) so I have one of the other icon packs loaded - plus I think they're far more pretty
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Huh, weird. lol. Idk, it works how I'd like it to right now.

Genesis3 said:
Yes and no.
The "standby" icons for data mode available ("G", "E", "3G", or "H") are missing from the T-Mobile load. The proper mode does identify over the antenna bars once a data connection comes up, but in data-standby, its missing.
This is an intentional omission as the standard Icon pack from HTC includes these. If you load one of the icon packs off XDA they will "magically appear."
I like knowing what mode is available (not just in use, if any is in use) so I have one of the other icon packs loaded - plus I think they're far more pretty
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OK thanks. I agree, I also want to know what mode I am currently using. Can you recommend one of the icon packs?

I'm partial to the Spikes' MicNeo ones here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522080&highlight=micneo

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HSDPA Help

When im in a 3G area and using my Vario 2 the 3G turns to H with the PDA Corner 6.1 ROM. Does T - Mobile UK charge me for this I pay £7.50 a month for Web and Walk?
How do I get the icon in the connections setting screen to be able to turn HSDPA on and off ? The PDA Corner ROM doest have it built in but the ROM itself is the most stable one so far and I dont want to change it just yet.
Any help would be appriciated.
Ska
Some cooks enable the H icon by default and you can turn it on and off with advanced config. If you have apps accessing the internet then you will off course have data transfer. The icon changing to H is just letting you know when your device is sending and receiving packets. This should be no different from rom to rom its just that you have an icon thats indicating transfer.
I hope this helps.
Mrjasjam said:
Some cooks enable the H icon by default and you can turn it on and off with advanced config. If you have apps accessing the internet then you will off course have data transfer. The icon changing to H is just letting you know when your device is sending and receiving packets. This should be no different from rom to rom its just that you have an icon thats indicating transfer.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks
I knew my T-Mobile UK WM6 rom didnt have it enabled was unsure if it would cost me anymore lol turned it off now in Advance Config.
You won't get charged anything extra to use HSDPA over 3G. Leave HSDPA on, specially if you're using ICS

how to make phone use H or G not 3g

on my works touch hd we use gprs.
depending on the strength of signal the phone will display in the top title bar
3G or H or G
if it displays 3G it won't connect to my works software via gprs.
i have to wait for it to display H or G
is there any setting or software i can use to make my phone disregard 3G ??
scottydog90 said:
on my works touch hd we use gprs.
depending on the strength of signal the phone will display in the top title bar
3G or H or G
if it displays 3G it won't connect to my works software via gprs.
i have to wait for it to display H or G
is there any setting or software i can use to make my phone disregard 3G ??
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If you go to the manilla settings tab and disable 3G, does it still show 3G? I think it should default to GPRS if you do so (but I'm not 100% certain).
scottydog90 said:
on my works touch hd we use gprs.
depending on the strength of signal the phone will display in the top title bar
3G or H or G
if it displays 3G it won't connect to my works software via gprs.
i have to wait for it to display H or G
is there any setting or software i can use to make my phone disregard 3G ??
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find Comm Manager then turn off 3G
using Manila 2.5 its found at
Settings / Wireless Controls / Comm manager turn off 3G
or
older WM6.1 Start/Settings/Personal/phone/band/
select your network type to GSM
to 2G or 3G thats the question
press the option to dial out
press MENU
choose OPTIONS
choose BAND tab
change top drop down box from AUTO to GSM
choose OK at top of screen
Phone will go from 3G if its in it to 2G and will stay stuck in 2G
You'll notice that your battery life will also last longer and if you were always swapping from 3G to 2G and back, you may have missed alot of calls too...
Happy 2G'ing - i am
many thanx for your replies guys...very useful..
to clarify...am using wm6.1 "proper rom"...nothing exciting i'm afraid.
so qeequeg...not sure what manilla settings are? but if you mean touch flow
then theres nothing to disable 3g (just sync data/sound/wallpaper/communications/customise tabs/about)
eye bees....nothing to turn off 3g in comm manager..(but again i'm using wm6.1)
but eye bees crystal_clear if i follow your instructions for wm6.1 and change band to gsm...phone tells me "if you chance bandset settings PDP context data call will be deactivated"....select it and indeed phone displays G in top bar ALL THE TIME
this works ok but with the software we that i'm logging onto via gprs its very slow.
ideally i want phone to display H all the time...
when i follow your instructions to change band to gsm theres another choice of WCDMA....would this be any better??
again thanx for input...feel nearly there but would like to tweak further for the illusive H
scottydog90 said:
many thanx for your replies guys...very useful..
to clarify...am using wm6.1 "proper rom"...nothing exciting i'm afraid.
so qeequeg...not sure what manilla settings are? but if you mean touch flow
then theres nothing to disable 3g (just sync data/sound/wallpaper/communications/customise tabs/about)
eye bees....nothing to turn off 3g in comm manager..(but again i'm using wm6.1)
but eye bees crystal_clear if i follow your instructions for wm6.1 and change band to gsm...phone tells me "if you chance bandset settings PDP context data call will be deactivated"....select it and indeed phone displays G in top bar ALL THE TIME
this works ok but with the software we that i'm logging onto via gprs its very slow.
ideally i want phone to display H all the time...
when i follow your instructions to change band to gsm theres another choice of WCDMA....would this be any better??
again thanx for input...feel nearly there but would like to tweak further for the illusive H
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H = HSDPA its part of 3G and network dependant (sometime called 3.5G ?)
if 3G signal is not strong you will not always get the H
if 3G and H network not present then phone automatical selects G= GSM(GRPS) or E=EDGE
Phone/ Band settings
if you set to WCDMA would only connect to 3G/H network but if no 3G network coverage then no phone connection
Auto means Phone selects 3G or GSM which ever nework is received best
Hope that helps
eyebees...many thanx for your help and advice...appreciated
What is the H?
I'm new to droid and after always seeing E or G before rooting and installing liberated ROM, I now have an H. What is this? Does it use more Data?
buzz71023 said:
I'm new to droid and after always seeing E or G before rooting and installing liberated ROM, I now have an H. What is this? Does it use more Data?
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Icons in top bar means:
G=GSM
E=Edge
3G=well, 3G
H=HSDPA or HSUPA(High speed download/upload for 3G)
It does not use more data, rather it does increase max data speed(both upload and download)
Thanks
retsam88 said:
Icons in top bar means:
G=GSM
E=Edge
3G=well, 3G
H=HSDPA or HSUPA(High speed download/upload for 3G)
It does not use more data, rather it does increase max data speed(both upload and download)
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Thanks.......
tyvm ery hellp me

3G / HSDPA Selection

recently got my HTC Hero I am with Optus (Australia) all the time when it says 3G at the top of the screen the connection is terrible (speed tests are slow etc) however if that says H i get more bars and super fast connection
if i use just 2G its just plan slowand not usable for VOIP etc
I am wondering is there a command i set to say only use H which i am guessing HSDPA?
Thank you
OzJames
The phone automatically uses the best connection available to it.
If it's not showing H, you're not within range of HSDPA service.
check on the market and download an apps called "any cut".after u install it open it and create a short cut for phone info by tapping on create a shortcut then choose activity then phone info by scrolling down to the options that says phone info.now go back to the short cut created called phone info and open it and scoll down to set preffered network type.the phone has a default settings to wcdma preffered.tap on the pull down menu and choose wcdma only and press on the back key twice to go to the home screen .this keeps your connection on 3g or H but will reduce in areas you cant get 3g or H.WHEN YOU GET THESE CONNECTION PROBLEMS CHANGE IT TO GSM ONLY.hope this helps
bruzay said:
check on the market and download an apps called "any cut".after u install it open it and create a short cut for phone info by scrolling down to the options that says phone info.now go back to the short cut created called phone info and open it and scoll down to set preffered network type.the phone has a default settings to wcdma preffered.tap on the pull down menu and choose wcdma only and press on the back key twice to go to the home screen .this keeps your connection on 3g or H but will reduce in areas you cant get 3g or H.WHEN YOU GET THESE CONNECTION PROBLEMS CHANGE IT TO GSM ONLY.hope this helps
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I don't understand, what is the purpose of doing this?
Like I said above, the phone will always use the best connection available (unless you set it otherwise in the options). Why set it to WCDMA only?
If you're in range of HSDPA service, the phone will use it.
Maybe I'm missing something, but this makes as much sense to me as asking how you can download more RAM to your computer
~David said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but this makes as much sense to me as asking how you can download more RAM to your computer
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actually it would be like setting the computer up that it would only use a fast internet connection, and if it is slow not to use it at all. would be like connection fast -> page loads, connection slow -> page is not loaded at all.
hs(d/u)pa is an extension to the umts standard. if it is not available in the cell you are using there is nothing to do about it. if you have gsm with edge availabe that might even be faster than a bad 3g/umts connection, but that depends on many factors.
Works perfectly thank you
Its much more stable now
Cheers
ozJames
ozjames said:
Works perfectly thank you
Its much more stable now
Cheers
ozJames
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You're welcome
Heya, I'm also on Optus in Australia. The problem thatyou have described is actually really common with Optus users. Optus has way too many customers and have overloaded their system. A easy work around for a more stable connection is to change your APN from internet to yesinternet hope this helps.

3G Icon On Notification Bar

New to Android phones, (I did a search but nothing was found), I was connected to Vodafone yesterday and there has never been a 3G Icon in the notification Bar (Network Signal has the 4 full bars)
When I am at home I use a Vodafone sure signal for 3G but it does not show in the notification bar either, (obviously I am connected to 3G when at home)
My network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA auto, so have I done something wrong or can some suggest how I can have this Icon showing.
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
EddyOS said:
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
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Thanks for the reply, this was a new sim card supplied with the phone I moved from T-Mobile to Vodafone so I could use the SureSignal to get rid of the crappy signal in the house.
Just solved the problem, if you switch off Wi-Fi then go into "settings/Mobile network connect to the internet it appears on the notification bar"
I thought you'd have it on already - glad you're sorted though!
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
Matt2887 said:
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
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The H means you have the HSDPA connection which is quicker than standard 3G. 3.5G if you will
ive also never seen a 3g icon, had the H and G one before
I use to get a 'H' on my kaiser
but on on my desire on Orange. I get a '3G+' symbol now. is this the same as 'H'?
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Guys, remember that Android works differently from WIndows Mobile.
On WIndows mobile, you had the G, E, 3G or H all the time showing what signal you had. Android does not do that.
The 3G/H icon only appears when connected to the internet. the rest of the time it just shows signal bars.
And yeah, if wifi is on it will disconnect from the internet and that icon will disappear. cos after all, as long as you have signal when just using voice and text, it doesn't really matter whether it's 3G or not.
And Yes, 3G+ is the same as H. 3G+ is Orange's stupid marketing speak for HSDPA.
I have constant 'G' which changes to 3G/H when in areas that allow it...phone works fine so no issues since changing my SIM card
I am also experiencing this problem and to clarify it:
Sometimes (i think it has something to do with using camera) the animation stops working (the arrows stays shadow even if i am downloading) or the 3h/h icon disappears completely (but i am still connected to mobile data).
Disconnecting and reconnecting mobile data (e.g. swithing to wifi and back, rebooting phone or turning airplane on and off) solves this problem and the animated 3g/h icon (arrows are white when downloading and shadow when connection idle) is back.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem permanently?
I have had no such a bug on my Milestone

High battery usage when 3G enabled

Hello folks!
okay, the facts are: Im in very good 3g reception zone, MIUI 1.6.6 with default kernel, .08 radio, data on, wifi off.
Problem is poor battery life when 3G is enabled. Also, when using mobile data the H icon appears and data moves in and out, but sometimes the H icon just disappears and i get network error? I've tried numerous radio/kernel/rom combinations.
When i put airplanemode on, the battery consumption is constant 2mA (currentwidget). With 2G networks only, its 3-6mA. When 3G enabled, mostly the consumption is 20-40mA and sometimes like 10 times in day with minute interval of refreshing i get 8mA readigs. Any app to check if there is some syncing going on? I use only beautyful widgets weather widget, which updates itself hourly. And the normal contacts and calendar sync on. Fellow MIUI users have much lower consumption, a mate of mine gets 2-4mA when 3g enabled.
3g mobile network is one the battery killers. The h icon stands for hsdpa. This the fastest network but the network coverage is not that good yet (except for big cities). Switch network to 2g network (mobile off). If you really need mobile network, switch on 3g. Otherwise stay with 2g. There's imho no sense in using 3g without needing/using mobile network.
MatDrOiD said:
3g mobile network is one the battery killers. The h icon stands for hsdpa. This the fastest network but the network coverage is not that good yet (except for big cities). Switch network to 2g network (mobile off). If you really need mobile network, switch on 3g. Otherwise stay with 2g. There's imho no sense in using 3g without needing/using mobile network.
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I tried using BatteryFu and APNdroid to get rid of my 3G while screen off. But that combination didnt work so well, sometimes it didnt disable my 3g and sometimes it wouldnt reconnect to 3G when unlocked. Any good programs to manage this?
I also wonder, I never cant download anything when 3G icon is appearing in statusbar. Its normally 3G but when I want to use the internet, it changes to H. Why cant I use the 3G network then? Im also having problems when the H goes to 3G the internet connection is lost. For example in market i get network error. The H wont stay there if there is no traffic for few secs.
Configured apn correctly? If you are not sure, do it again. Furthermore, you could try these settings for mobile network:
Uncheck data enabled and set network to 2g/gsm (depending on what you have). When you need mobile network, switch to "wcmda + gsm (automatically)" (name could be a litte different, translated it from germany) and check data enabled. I do it so and it's working fine.
MatDrOiD said:
Configured apn correctly? If you are not sure, do it again. Furthermore, you could try these settings for mobile network:
Uncheck data enabled and set network to 2g/gms (depending on what you have). When you need mobile network, switch to "wcmda + gsm (automatically)" (name could be a litte different, translated it from germany) and check data enabled. I do it so and it's working fine.
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Okay didnt understand very well what u ment by the last part of ur message
APN configured correctly? I have carrier default APN settings which have been working just fine for a year. If u ment APNdroid i didnt do much configuring with it. Gotta give it another try.
Last idea: flash latest radio.
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