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New to the world of Hermes

as the title suggests i am very new to this world, and only was introduced to it by luck, and glad i was. Anyways just wanted to know where i could find the latest and greatest 3des.3.x for a dopod 838 pro
Also another question after some browsing it seems as though the black is the most popular, but why?? It seems to lack alot of applications in comparision to the 3des Hermes, is there any floors with the 3des hermes that i have not yet read?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

help needed
Ya i wish to find out more as well as i m using dopod 838pro, y is it after i update to the official rom of wm 6, my bluetooth can't receive file and what is the best and stable rom that you guys will recommend, pls help, i wish to enhance my hermes to top performance and what softwares is a must for it to be the best pda companion.

Welcome to a world of wonder boys. First thing that you will learn about this site is that it is large and complex and can be really daunting at first.
I recommend first starting here
And then try the guides from Mr. Vanx.
After that, just start plopping ROMs on your device and testing them out. You are bound to find one that is right for you. And if not, by the time you try four or five ROMs you will probably be ready to cook your own.
@2revup - many ROM flashers actually find that a ROM free of most software is better than a bloated ROM. It enables the user to keep most of the device's memory free to install programs of his/her choosing.

thanks for that larsuck i will do some more reading, looking forward to getting some nice ROMS

First WWE Rom of 2008?

Hi,
Messchle's & Tom Condon & Dutch rom developpers seem to be on a new year pauze, as far as i know there hasn't been released any (WWE) rom yet in 2008, only some greek & french stuff.
What do you all like in new upcomming roms ? This to get some inspiration to the rom-creators and offcourse to keep our P3300 in the running.
Maybe some cam tool (msn live cannot start camming i think, would be nice with your p3300 via wifi
I have ordered a second P3300 (other one in repair shop).
It's the best pda-phone I ever had, gsm-gps-wifi-mp3-mp4, what more can they invent ?
Cheers,
Innovator

That's right. Im still longing here everyday for a latest and clean ROM this 2008. Artemis, my bets device Only if it had a 2.8" sized VGA screen like in Eten, nothing could beat it ever!
Regards,
Carty..

2008, maybe I change my phone

im with you new phone i need 3g

New Rom Requests
A Touch Keyboard "Add Word To Dictionary" that actually works
Hold "End Call" button to lock device

Yep looking for new phone here too.
Artemis has been amazing, but now I want 3g in the bundle so Maybe Kaiser or hang on for Polaris.
The Artemis has done well, I'm not sure of the value of writing anymore ROM's at the moment, what's new to add to them? Perhaps a Pointui ROM in the future.

I want to have rock stable and clean ROM based on HTC P3300 WM6 ROM with maximized free storage and program memory - no added applications or features (like touch and cube) - just a base for making my own system with free and commercial applications, customizations and personal data for backup and restore.
Best wishes for Meshle and Tom for their great work and happy new year.

I would like to see more roms but im looking for a new phone, whatever i get though i'l still keep my orbit

right varvocell
a clean wm6 rom would be nice indeed

varvocel said:
I want to have rock stable and clean ROM based on HTC P3300 WM6 ROM with maximized free storage and program memory - no added applications or features (like touch and cube) - just a base for making my own system with free and commercial applications, customizations and personal data for backup and restore.
Best wishes for Meshle and Tom for their great work and happy new year.
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Then you need the Vanilla ROM from Meschle. That one is stable and clean.

PointUi Rom
I agree with Gadjet, a pointui based rom would be nice with themes for pocket cm, wmp, cube, today screen ect Maybe someone with the skills (and time lol) could do a couple of versions eg : Black with cube, Blue with cube, Black without, Blue without...

About the topic
I think it's really nice to have people the create the ROMs we use but I think it would be a lot nicer to have a kitchen that enables the user to create his own individual ROM. There is a guy in a German Windows Mobile forum that created a tools that is close to that:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=121552
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=124358 (improved version)
I think it was the pandora kitchen that made me wish that we had it too. I think in that kitchen you can select between about 100 packages which ones you want on your pda. Basically we need a kitchen and packages that work for our Artemis, then updating shouldn't be the biggest problem.
I respect the "Chefs" that cook really nice ROMs and I'm not telling them to stop their good work. But if we all had one big kitchen this would be a community again because the users could create their own packages and their own ROMs.
Once I found out how easy it is to create a package and cook your own ROM I was surprised that no one told me before. The tutorials are either overloaded or don't have enough information for the beginners to understand what the Chefs are talking about. That's why I'm going to make video tutorials in February and post them as soon as they are ready (starting in my own language).
I'd be happy if we could make this nice place a true community again where the users think about contributing. To be a good example I'll post my first tutorial within the next week.

That tool you have linked to looks awesome.....I'm into that in a big way and will give it a go when I have some time...thanks for sharing....

Registerme said:
I think...
Once I found out how easy it is to create a package and cook your own ROM I was surprised that no one told me before. The tutorials are either overloaded or don't have enough information for the beginners to understand what the Chefs are talking about. That's why I'm going to make video tutorials in February and post them as soon as they are ready (starting in my own language).
I'd be happy if we could make this nice place a true community again where the users think about contributing. To be a good example I'll post my first tutorial within the next week.
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I will be with you! thanks in advance for this video.

hiitsme said:
Then you need the Vanilla ROM from Meschle. That one is stable and clean.
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It's my current ROM - I agree - very stable, clean, with good battery life and plenty of free memory, but as far as I know it's not based on P3300 (and I'm not sure if Java midlet manager in this ROM could be used without any legal problems).

varvocel said:
It's my current ROM - I agree - very stable, clean, with good battery life and plenty of free memory, but as far as I know it's not based on P3300 (and I'm not sure if Java midlet manager in this ROM could be used without any legal problems).
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Have you tried the last new ROM from Meschle Vaniila 4.01? This one is even
faster than the other releases. I'm working with this one for a week now and this one is also stable and very very fast.

Artemis vs Polaris
I have tried out the Polaris a bit, and it looks almost the same as the Artemis, only faster (400 MHz) and with some minor approvements. I especially like the screenshield which follows. But, I miss the full GPS package with car kit and charger, but this is just accessories, and can be bought anywhere. I will definite buy one of those in som time......I think... Depends on the next generation of ROMs from the gurus here at XDA
Greetings from Norway, especially to Tom Codon, Meschle, Bepe, Carty and a lot of other great developers on this forum.

WM6.1 or WM6 ? And Other Stuff

Basically, I use my TYTN to take the odd picture, write stuff on WORD, play lots of games and browse using netfront, using a older ROM, will it make difference? also, because there is well over 100 roms for either, it would be nice to know a good rom, fast, not buggy, doesnt need hard resets very often, do any of you recommend a good rom? also, although i made a rom well over a year ago, which is the best (and noob-y friendly) kitchen to cook maybe a little rom dish of my own?
Any help given is appreciated.
Regards

The reason I ask is, I have been away from PDA's for well over a year
Thanks for any help

Hi, welcome back. There are many WM6.1 rom threads on page 1 for u to check out (forget the old wm6.0). Here's a thread post's info on the same question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442159

6.1 vs 6.0
I like all the flash which is built into most of the newer (6.1) roms, but after trying most all of them have stayed with 6.0. The major reason is stability. I have not yet had a 6.1 rom go more than 4 days without needing a hard reset. For those who are into flashing frequently anyway, that's no big deal. But if you want a rom that works reliably, and that you can load up with software without worrying about having to reload everything after a hard reset, I'd stick with 6.0.
Best wishes all,

For the Hermes, I have to agree with Edhaas. 6.1 has never worked as solidly for me as 6.1. (My Athena is another matter.) If you can do without the threaded SMS, then stick with 6.0.
Two I recommend are:
Edhaas' SuperD-Lite (Most worry-free ROM of the 25 or so that I have flashed to the Hermes.)
Or Shamanix Ultimate V2 (Very solid with more polish than SuperD-Lite.)
And as far as Kitchens are concerned, I found the easiest to use was Matt's Pandora Kitchen. It has a lot of options to play around with, so don't expect to get things perfect the first time, but once it is set up it is dead easy to make a ROM.

best and most stable rom WM6, 6.1, 6.5 ?? Opinions please

I am a bit of a newb to the hermes and was wondering what is the best/most stable rom for wm6.?? (I'm on orange UK by the way)
Would appreciate any opinions and links to the roms.
I have spent ages reading through various posts but keep getting lost/confused.
I have done the hard spl upgrade and have a sd card ready for the upgrade. Now it's the big question of which rom.
Would like one that is ready to go with most of the basics already there rather than one of the really lite ones I think, but not sure which would be best ?
I probably should say it's an M3100
Thanks in advance....steve

Which one that is best for you, might not be the one that is best for someone else. Each cook has their own style.
Try several, I would suggest CRC's, Tai's, Josh's, or kareme's
You really will have to try several to see what fits you best.
I have not tried any of the 6.5 roms out, mainly because it seems there are still bugs to be worked out.

Don't bother with WM6
There's not really that significant a jump from WM5 - and you can get an official WM6 ROM!
IMHO 6.1 is the way to go, for now...

Spoiler Alert!!
Umm.. I've been trying the WM 6.5 Version XXX76 from Tai... I am mighty impressed... I thot it'd need lots of ram to keep 6.5 running.. this is fast man... 6.5 though there are no paradigm shifts from 5,6 or 6.1... even the beta seems better that 6.1...
currently my rnaking would be
1. 6.5 ( I am liking waht I am seeing.. this is the speed king... 76 fro TAI is stable as any other ROM)
2. 6 (faster... than most of the other Versions and not plain as 5
3. 6.1 (lots of fixes on this but slow.. slow...slow)

WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!

joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.

joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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thanks josh... for your warning...

There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying
I just bought a 8525 for $125 USD. It's awesome. I first settled on one of Schap's ROMS - Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
It was really nice but now it is sadly behind the times. There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying:
1 21189_Lite_V9_Update1
2 21193_Lite_V10
I installed the 1st and stopped there because it is so awesome. The Hermes no longer has to hide in the shadows of all the new $600 Pda/phones out there.
One thing about 6.5 is that there is no "programs" section per se in the titanium feature(?). So I went to a SPBplus4 Today Screen.
It's much more convenient for accessing fexplorer and task mgr.I did do an auto hide on the tabs and minimized the icons so it would look like one of the newer phones. Appreciate all the hard work everyone put in.
My ROM request (if anyone's interested) is for a full featured 6.5 -something like K's ROM with TAI's finesse dominating - BUT without IE or OFFICE or WM built in. I am surprised all the great cooks include these. I have found Skyfire, TCPMP work great and I don't need Office at all.
And the START MENU sections on the 6.5 should go directly to the same categories as before except more like :
Programs, SYSTEM Settings, Connection Settings, Personal Settings, TODAY settings, TOOLS (regedit, fexplore, taskmgr), GAMES, PICTURES, VIDEOS, MUSIC, AND the option to add or customize your own AND be able to have it show before Programs, and stay there after a SR!
I am a newbie but I know what I want. Thanks again to all the cooks for making carrying a phone everywhere exciting and useful and for showing the big companies how to really do it. They keep putting out these improved ROMs (performance-wise) but they have no idea what to do with them.
Jupiter and Titan from AZ USA.

I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?

bailey7 said:
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

I am still using binky11 as it was 5 or six month,,so stable,,,,
I love manilla2d, but it is not stable until right now
thanks

Try Josh M2D ROM..
Its nice, fast and stable
thanks JOsh

bugmenot20090308 said:
What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.

I personally like Tai_SW's 21109 rom. It seems to be really stable though that could be because its a hybrid WM6.1/WM6.5 rom.
Have 2 Hermes, on my main I use 21109 but test others on my "spare"...
I don't tend to like the Hex or titanium roms as the RAM is low and storage space seems to abot 45Mb or less while I use about 50 Mb for the apps I like. I need to have as much RAM as possible too so I don't end up with system freezes when I run a REALLY RAM hungry app.
Cheers...

binky11 is the most stable ever, but it will be the perfect rom when manill2d them inside.
PERFECT
thanks

Tai_SW's wm6.1 lite roms are superb, fast, stable, & lot's of free memory!!

zack_rains said:
Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore

I use DarkWinter2 from Josh and it works fine for me.

PDAViet DVH_V27... I have tried other ROMS - some of them really nice, but there was always something, which made me to go back to DVH_V27.. too bad this guy does not cook for hermes anymore..

ntha82 said:
Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
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Not neccesary. I tried one day 6.5 Josh rom (GS or else edition), but it was lagging, so I re-flased it the same day. Now I'm using Josh V15 colored 3G and is wonderful

SPB Mobile Shell 3 / diamond theme?

Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!

EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...

Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up

ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers

iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
iorga1 said:
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!

thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?

SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!

iorga1 said:
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!

thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,

Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!

When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640

mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.

mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!

OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...

SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!