Newb here -- I'm running Cyanogen 4.0.4.
I want to try some themes, but wanted to know in advance how I would go about un-installing them if they cause problems.
How would I revert to the base cyanogen state?
I'd like to avoid having to re-flash cyanogen and/or wiping phone.
Thanks!
Don't wipe/flash.
Just apply the cyanogen rom again.
It's that easy? Will my apps/data stay intact on the phone or will that erase it when the ROM is re-flashed?
yes it is just that easy the theme is just modded picture files in the rom. so if you replace the files your apps and data airn't effected. its the same as flashing and updated version of the rom
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Currently stock 2.2 (3.29x), odexed ROM, rooted.
Questions:
1) Would this allow me to manually deodex my phone:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-themes/4620-how-manually-deodex-your-phone.html
2) If I made full backups using Titanium from my odexed, stock ROM, can I restore those apps and data back onto a deodexed ROM?
3) When I flash a new ROM, I gather most of them will wipe all the apps and files from my phone. Is that correct? Under what condition will a new ROM flash NOT wipe the data? RUUs? I'm asking because I know 3.30x is coming.
4) When someone takes the release OTA 3.3x, root it, and deodex it, can I flash it over my stock odexed ROM and not lose any apps/data, as well as have everything work?
Thank you!
Bump--will someone please provide some guidance?
Another question: If I restore apps and data from one phone to another, with both phones operating (using the same gmail account), will it cause a problem?
I was wondering if Android apps install with unique IDs that would cause confusion/conflict between devices.
Thanks.
Trying again in hopes that I get some answers, in particular, #1. If I can manually deodex my phone with the stock ROM, I won't have to rebuild everything.
Later, I presume, I can just update using a deodexed/rooted RUU without losing anything?
snovvman said:
Currently stock 2.2 (3.29x), odexed ROM, rooted.
Questions:
1) Would this allow me to manually deodex my phone:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-themes/4620-how-manually-deodex-your-phone.html
2) If I made full backups using Titanium from my odexed, stock ROM, can I restore those apps and data back onto a deodexed ROM?
3) When I flash a new ROM, I gather most of them will wipe all the apps and files from my phone. Is that correct? Under what condition will a new ROM flash NOT wipe the data? RUUs? I'm asking because I know 3.30x is coming.
4) When someone takes the release OTA 3.3x, root it, and deodex it, can I flash it over my stock odexed ROM and not lose any apps/data, as well as have everything work?
Thank you!
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1.) No, that was made for a different phone and if you try you will get bootloops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795104
2.) Yes. I've done it going from Stock 3.29 to Myn's rom.
3.) You can flash any rom over any other rom and retain your data.
It does however cause major compatibly problems as most roms are designed differently.
You can just flash over an updated version of the same rom though.
i.e. Going from version 1 to version 2 of the same rom.
Ruu's will wipe everything back to stock. (and un-root I think.)
and 3.30 won't be an OTA it is only being shipped on new phones because they have a different hardware that requires the changes in 3.30.
If everything is stock you should be able to flash it over your 3.29 rom.
4.) I am not sure on this. Just make a Nandroid backup and try it.
If it bootloops or doesn't work, just boot to recovery and restore you Nand.
Nandroid Backup before you attempt ANYTHING.
xNotta said:
1.) No, that was made for a different phone and if you try you will get bootloops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795104
2.) Yes. I've done it going from Stock 3.29 to Myn's rom.
3.) You can flash any rom over any other rom and retain your data.
It does however cause major compatibly problems as most roms are designed differently.
You can just flash over an updated version of the same rom though.
i.e. Going from version 1 to version 2 of the same rom.
Ruu's will wipe everything back to stock. (and un-root I think.)
and 3.30 won't be an OTA it is only being shipped on new phones because they have a different hardware that requires the changes in 3.30.
If everything is stock you should be able to flash it over your 3.29 rom.
4.) I am not sure on this. Just make a Nandroid backup and try it.
If it bootloops or doesn't work, just boot to recovery and restore you Nand.
Nandroid Backup before you attempt ANYTHING.
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Thanks so much for your reply. I read your thread on #1, subscribed, in hoping that there may be a solution. I'm confused by your response #3, and how it relates to post #3 on the thread you cited. I thought I read that you wanted to manually deodex because you don't want to re-set thing up? If a ROM flash (not RUU) will simply overlay, why would you need to re-set thing up?
A couple of follow ups--If I make a full backup using Ti-Backup from an odexed/OE ROM, doesn't the odex files get backed up with it? So when I restore onto a deodexed ROM, wouldn't that cause a problem?
I'm in the same boat as you. I want to flash to the new 3.30 dodexed ROM so I can remove some taskbar icons (and get the newer ROM), but I don't want to re-setup everything I have done with my OE Evo ROM.
But, if I understand you, I CAN flash the 3.30/deodexed/rooted ROM over my OE 3.29 odexed ROM and everything will remain?
Thanks again! (and for the Nandroid reminder too)
Edit:
I see why this won't work--it's an RUU, therefore it will wipe?
[Supersonic RUU 3.30.651.2 | Kernel-Build149] - Flashable Zips - Odex and Deodex Ver.
snovvman said:
I thought I read that you wanted to manually deodex because you don't want to re-set thing up? If a ROM flash (not RUU) will simply overlay, why would you need to re-set thing up?
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In theory flashing over a similar rom should not cause a problem since all the files are the same.
So if that's right, you wouldn't loose any of your settings since it would kind of be like an upgrade.
But that's a good point. I didn't even think to just flash a DeOdex'd version of the same rom over my Odex'd rom.
The thing that stopped me from successfully de-odexing my rom was the framework-res.apk, any modification of the .xml's in that file would prevent the phone from booting. So I don't know if that will cause a problem if you flash the De-Odex'd rom on top.
Titanium Backup(TiBu) actually restores everything like home screen layouts, ringtones and settings and the donate version has hypershell that makes it so you dont have to click install on every app.
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If I make a full backup using Ti-Backup from an odexed/OE ROM, doesn't the odex files get backed up with it? So when I restore onto a deodexed ROM, wouldn't that cause a problem?
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I can't be completely sure, but I wouldn't try restoring system apps.
When I switched to a DeOdexed rom I went though every backup and didn't restore any of the system apps that would have still been Odex'd.
But I imagine TiBu would just replace those system files with the original Odex'd ones which kind of defeats the idea of DeOdex-ing, lol.
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But, if I understand you, I CAN flash the 3.30/deodexed/rooted ROM over my OE 3.29 odexed ROM and everything will remain?
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I think if you do that you would end up with DeOdex'd system apps but you would have to go though and delete the .odex files from /system/apps/.
It might not even work flashing a DeOdex'd rom over an Odex'd rom.
If it does work, your data should still be there.
snovvman said:
I see why this won't work--it's an RUU, therefore it will wipe?
[Supersonic RUU 3.30.651.2 | Kernel-Build149] - Flashable Zips - Odex and Deodex Ver.
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That is actually the rom extracted from the RUU.
So a wipe is probably recomended, but I don't think rom's touch the part of the phone where our settings are stored so it shouldn't wipe. (if it works)
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/<-- that's the official RUU files, but they will reset your recovery back to stock and probably remove root.
That's going to be a really long post, haha. xD
Anyways, I would say do a Nandroid Backup or two (just in case) and wipe data, cache, and dalvik and flash the 3.30 rom .zip that was in the link you posted.
Then use TiBu to restore everything with the exception of the apps with red names, as those are system apps.
You need to restart you phone after TiBu finishes restoring.
You can always go back to your original nand backup if it doesn't work out.
I was reluctant to leave stock but once you try a better rom you wonder why you didn't switch earlier.
Hopefully someone with more experience can add to what I missed.
Thank you again for taking the time to reply.
Is it true that only system apps are odexed? What about market applications? I understand the concept of not restoring (via TiBu) system apps, but is it possible that there are other applications use the odex file?
I'm curious whether the state of odex/deodex is a system-wide property, where, if the system (phone) is deodexed, new installed are laid down as deodexed, and that would be the oppsite to be true for odexed phones?
When TiBu backs up an app that is odexed, does it backup both files and later try to restore both, even onto a deodexed system?
I presume it would be okay to restore "data only" on the system apps (going from odex to deodex)?
Lastly, not that I'd want to, I presume running deodexed precludes any possibility of OTA updates? Also, what about system app updates, like the recent Visual Voicemail update? Will it get installed as odexed because it is OE?
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the great work, my phone loves the new ROMs. Just a quick noob question. I have installed cyanogenmod 6.13 and android revolution 2.04 on my phone. after installing each ROM I restored my apps and settings to that the ROM was as I liked it, i then backed up the ROM (including wipe with ROM manager) before installing the other. I now have two ROMs that i'm am trying out, both of which have all of my apps and settings already loaded.
My question is if I want to switch between each backed up ROM (by restoring), do I need to first load the original ROM with a wipe and then restore the backup on top of tihs? Or can i just restore for example my backed up cyanogenmod ROM with my settings if I have been running android revolution? If I don't have to install the original ROM before restoring, do I need to do a wipe anyway and if yes how?
Thanks for all your help, keep up the great work!
Hi all.
Perhaps this is a newbie query but here you go.
I've been flashing stock rooted OTA's from the beginning, and always chose Odexed over Deodexed I suppose because of file size. Now, I'm looking to diversify and have the ability to theme etc.
Can I flash a deodexed over an odexed rooted 4.53.651.1 OTA with out data loss?
I assume I can just wipe dalvik, and cache then apply yes?
The specific thread I'm referring to is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17642327&postcount=1
As I'd like to incorporate this with out flashing an entirely new rom. I'm cool with stock rooted goodness.
Thanks!
Best bet is to do a nandroid backup and try it out. If you have issues, just restore your backup.
If it doesn't work out for you, you can always just backup everything you need with Titanium Backup and an sms backup app if you want to save your messages. Then do a full wipe and flash the deodexed rom. The only data you will not be able to restore is your homescreen. It may restore, but widgets will not load.
I have found that it always helps my phone to do a full wipe every few weeks, even though I've only flashed updates of the same rom for the past few months. I could get away without wiping data, but I like a fresh start every now and then. Things run more smoothly, and I cut down drastically on my number of useless apps by not batch restoring everything.
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I was running Android Revolution HD 6.1.5, updated to 6.3.1
without wiping any cache, just download 6.3.1 and
flash it into my phone, just asking is it a correct method?
And, how do i flash mod into desire hd?
Like the same as flashing rom?
Help is appreciated.
Thanks.
With ARHD (and most other ROMs), it's a good idea to wipe before flashing a major new version of the ROM.
For ARHD, this means when either of the first two digits in the version number changes. So from 6.1.x to 6.3.x, you should wipe, or from 6.x.x to 7.x.x (when it's released). Use the superwipe script provided in the ARHD first post. But from 6.3.1 to 6.3.2 you won't need to wipe anything.
The reason for this is that a change in either of the first two digits in the ARHD version number means a new version of Android or a new base firmware from HTC. Some of the key system files will be different, and you're much more likely to have problems if you just upgrade without wiping in between.
Wiping does mean you have to set up your apps again, or you can use Titanium Backup to restore them (user apps or data only, don't restore system apps or data). But wiping is worth it to avoid having any problems later on.
Most mods are in flashable zips and you can flash them in Recovery the same way as the ROM. It's always a good idea to take a backup in Recovery first, just in case something doesn't work or you decide you don't like the mod. The mods overwrite system files, so you can't uninstall them - you have to restore a backup.
Hope that helps, and happy flashing.
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With ARHD (and most other ROMs), it's a good idea to wipe before flashing a major new version of the ROM.
For ARHD, this means when either of the first two digits in the version number changes. So from 6.1.x to 6.3.x, you should wipe, or from 6.x.x to 7.x.x (when it's released). Use the superwipe script provided in the ARHD first post. But from 6.3.1 to 6.3.2 you won't need to wipe anything.
The reason for this is that a change in either of the first two digits in the ARHD version number means a new version of Android or a new base firmware from HTC. Some of the key system files will be different, and you're much more likely to have problems if you just upgrade without wiping in between.
Wiping does mean you have to set up your apps again, or you can use Titanium Backup to restore them (user apps or data only, don't restore system apps or data). But wiping is worth it to avoid having any problems later on.
Most mods are in flashable zips and you can flash them in Recovery the same way as the ROM. It's always a good idea to take a backup in Recovery first, just in case something doesn't work or you decide you don't like the mod. The mods overwrite system files, so you can't uninstall them - you have to restore a backup.
Hope that helps, and happy flashing.
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Thanks alot, Just wondering. do i do a advance or a normal backup for the Recovery backup nanodroid
VinFinalist said:
Thanks alot, Just wondering. how do i back up my mods from the Revovery
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Power down the phone and then hold volume down while you press power on to get into recovery. When you're in recovery there should be a backup/restore menu that has everything you need.
When you backup it basically takes a snapshot of your phone and saves it with a filename that has the date & time (and for 4EXT recovery, it also has the ROM name). When you restore that backup, your phone goes back to the exact state it was when the backup was made.
So for titanium backup is to restore apps and etc
While the Recovery nanodroid is to restore back to everything + rom
i did super wipe and install 6.3.1 and install some custom mod
CRT and BlueHD, Thanks alot !
VinFinalist said:
So for titanium backup is to restore apps and etc
While the Recovery nanodroid is to restore back to everything + rom
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Exactly right.
Hmm, if i reformat my sd card, will the nanodroid backup
wipe out together?
Yes, but you can copy the folder to your PC and then copy it back afterwards. It's the clockworkmod/backup folder on your card.
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Yes, but you can copy the folder to your PC and then copy it back afterwards. It's the clockworkmod/backup folder on your card.
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Oh i see, Thanks a lot, Seriouesly without your help,
My phone won't get to so far. Right now
The Theme BLUEHD is so awesome, Super smooth,
And my Battery life seems to Increased!
No problem, glad you're enjoying the ROM and theme.
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I'm just curious on how people generally restore their device with their previous apps/settings e.c.t after flashing a new rom.
For example, I intend to flash AndroidNow to my G3 and run it for a few weeks and then flash Cyanogen. Does that mean I have to start afresh and re-download all my apps and everything after the install? Is there an easier way of doing everything?
I would appreciate any help
Halo2928 said:
As above
I'm just curious on how people generally restore their device with their previous apps/settings e.c.t after flashing a new rom.
For example, I intend to flash AndroidNow to my G3 and run it for a few weeks and then flash Cyanogen. Does that mean I have to start afresh and re-download all my apps and everything after the install? Is there an easier way of doing everything?
I would appreciate any help
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There are applications like Titanium Backup or in our phone just for the stock roms we have LG Backup.
If you're installing a new version of the same ROM, it's generally safe to restore APPs and APP data. It's never a good idea to restore system settings after flashing ROMs. And if you're flashing a ROM that's significantly different (such as stock-based to AOSP, or even between two different variations of AOSP ROMs), I wouldn't recommend restoring app data, either.