Sms functionality is very limited on TP2. Should we install some 3rd party program like Vito or implement our own?
Anyone? lets talk about it
limited? what's so limited aboot it?
i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world
i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world but love my touch pro 2
Be more specific. What is klunky.
I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.
reflexus said:
I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cant delete individual msg? Turn off Threading (try reading the Tips and Tweaks thread)
Dont know how many symbols?? mine counts fine, ^ counts as 2 characters.. hmm.. IF by "regular prog" you mean in the TF3D reply window, then yah that doesnt have a counter.
Why do you need it to count text for?? If you need to type any more than 160chars, it will be sent as 2 messages.
anything else that you wanna consider as SUCK?
is this your first WinMo phone?
I personally don't like the TF3D SMS interface so I use good ol WM interface when I have a threaded message open. It shows in the taskbar how many characters you've typed & if you want to delete an individual message you just use the arrow keys & move to thw one you want to delete & choose the option in the menu.
Very oftently you dont see sent msg in TF3D, but you can see them in wm msg. IT sucks and very slow.
I have a deep and unabiding hatred for the TF3D SMS application, and I hope someone figures out a way to make clicking a message in TF3D go directly to the WM SMS app at some point.
anyone can resolve this issue?
i have an issue with hitting back (used to it being send) and i hate the send button because for me it is very laggy usually .. when i need to fire off a bunch of messages real quick the system almost freezes up ... not very productive and alot of times i cant tell if its sent or not because it takes to long to load my reply on the thread..
touch pro 2 sucks, most sluggish phone i ever worked with, i think i will sell it.
Related
I was able to get it to work, the only problem is the fonts are kinda small. I'm trying to figure out a way to see if I can make them any bigger.
Here's a link and some screen shots.
http://gadgetsonthego.net/2007/03/palms-threaded-sms-app-works-on-t.html
quick one, where do you get this famous threaded sms app?
i'm sure the font issue is a registry tweak
I have the app from my Treo 700wx. You can get this app on the web, TreoCentral is a good place to start.
the other problem with the app is that you can't get back to your inbox without closing the app out first. I have set task manager to a speed dial so I press "2" to close the app then I get back in my inbox and can navigate between inbox,outbox, drafts etc. Otherwise the app works very well.
I couldnt get it to uninstall. I tried doing it through "remove programs" but no luck. Oh well it had already been like a week since I formatted
Hey there,
I got the CAB file - how do I install it?
Install it the same way you do any .cab file. I usually put it in my programs folder on my Dash using Activesync, then navigate to that folder on my Dash and open the .cab.
Thanks! I installed it. Any idea on the hacks / changes I need to make to get it working? When I run the program, i'm good to go. however, there's no way to go "back". When I press the "<-" button on my Dash, it exits the program.
So if I'm in a threaded chat with someone, I can't get back to the view where i choose which converesation to enter. Anyone know of a good guide to get it working?
Thanks so much!
That's the problem, it wasn;t designed for a smartphone, it was for ppc phones. The way I get around this is I set task manager to my speed dial #2 and I have to end the app. Then I can get back into the inbox. It's a bit annoying, but I still find it better than our other options right now. It was never intended to run on a non-touch screen device, it actually surprised me when I got it running.
I got it running back in December, and was happy it still worked with WM6.
This is when I got it running on WM5:
http://gadgetsonthego.net/2006/12/palm-threaded-text-messaging-running.html
Notifications?
Did anybody ever get the font to a readable size, or get it to make a notification sound? I searched to no avail...
no... still squinting read the damn texts... i have the files if anyone needs them! just pm me!
btw... did anyone find out a registry hack to map the back button to going back to the main menu of palm sms threader? so annoying to go to task manager... close it and then open it again! any idea how to uninstall it and go back to regular wm6 sms? hard reset?! eek
Hi,
Where can I download this application.
I used to use TXTman with WM5 and it was ok. But its not working well with WM6.
pm me please.
gbedi said:
no... still squinting read the damn texts... i have the files if anyone needs them! just pm me!
btw... did anyone find out a registry hack to map the back button to going back to the main menu of palm sms threader? so annoying to go to task manager... close it and then open it again! any idea how to uninstall it and go back to regular wm6 sms? hard reset?! eek
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any luck with this?
Has anyone had any luck running TxTMan on WM6 or any threaded SMS program for that matter? I just installed it, but it won't read my SMS messages through TxTMan when the program is open.
no luck with this app it sounds interesting..
give THIS a shot
jeg815 said:
I was able to get it to work, the only problem is the fonts are kinda small. I'm trying to figure out a way to see if I can make them any bigger.
Here's a link and some screen shots.
http://gadgetsonthego.net/2007/03/palms-threaded-sms-app-works-on-t.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
anyone managed to get the font size up?
uhm...with the kavana/rickwyatt roms, there is already an sms threader installed.
Exactly... install Kavana's ROM and stop worrying about it ! lol
Hi!
I successfully upgraded my P3300 NOR to WM6 WWE, but there is some new "features" in WM6 that I don't appreciate that much:
1) In the message application the left soft button is changed from new to delete. This I find rather irritating because the majority of times I want to compose a new message, not delete one (I almost never deletes messages). I know there has been some discussion concerning this issues over in the hermes forum.
2) When writing a new text message (or e-mail for that sake) and you start typing in the to field, WM5 displayed a list of matches from your contacts that you could pick from, and the field populated itself with the right information. This is not happening on my device after upgrading, is it a setting that controls this behavior or do we have to hack something to accomplish this?
Any suggestions on how to solve these issues?
Regards,
PK
I know what you mean with the Delete in messages, its a right pain!
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
hollinshead said:
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi!
Thanks for reply! In WM5 (at least on my device) the item you picket from the list replaced what you already had wrote, so there the functionality made sense. If this is not true on WM6 then it's absolutely wast, as you pointed out.
Regards,
PK
On my device the thing with the contacts work just like in WM5... It does not work if i your Phonepad, but with the normal keyboard, a smal rectangualr pops up with the Result matching my already typed letters, i then can pick a contact and the device replaces my input with the number...
And the Thing with "Delete" instead of "New" is really a senseless change, although im usign the WM5 New Menu in my Today screen, where i can assign a Softbutton with "New..." and then creat a SMS, email, Task or Note, whatever you desire, so i never really go through the messaging -> new menu...
Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
------
EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html
If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic
Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?
screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that
I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.
Thanks man. Your word is always good enough
OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.
You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.
i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..
Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius
Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks
One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..
Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius
For those of you who are playing with WM6.1 have you been messing with the threaded txt? I have used the troe version for so long I admit I miss some stuff.
Mainly the new threaded app doesnt tell me how many characters I have typed so I don't know when I have went over the 160 limit.. I have also noticed that sms backup doesn't seem to work correctly it backs up my txt messages and when I restore them they r missing and not threaded.
Another thing I like about threo threaded is MMS/SMS are all together instead of seperate..
Last thing is the txt don't have dates next to them. They have time but no dates. I like to scroll back and know what day and time something was txt to me.
Anyone else got any complaints?
Maybe some of these things can be corrected with a addon or something.
you can see how many characters at the upper corner.
I two think PALM did a better job.
I agree
Me myself being a Treo 650 owner and a hacked threaded sms user on my 8525 would have to agree the WinMo 6.1 threaded sms falls short.
No smilies
There is a short delay when sending msgs
No timestamp(with dates)
When restoring from PIM backup msgs are missing/ out of order....I can only see the msgs I've sent not the msgs I've received.
This may sound like a little nit-pickery going on but hell M$ has had a lot of time to get this minor detail right....
elivne said:
you can see how many characters at the upper corner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where?? I can't find it.. When I compose new sms - yes, I can see this. But when You replay , there is no such information.
elivne said:
you can see how many characters at the upper corner.
I two think PALM did a better job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where?? I am typing a txt msg right now and I don't see a character counter anywhere at all...I'm not that blind its not there..
Vision77 said:
Me myself being a Treo 650 owner and a hacked threaded sms user on my 8525 would have to agree the WinMo 6.1 threaded sms falls short.
No smilies
There is a short delay when sending msgs
No timestamp(with dates)
When restoring from PIM backup msgs are missing/ out of order....I can only see the msgs I've sent not the msgs I've received.
This may sound like a little nit-pickery going on but hell M$ has had a lot of time to get this minor detail right....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't be too surprised that MS half-assed this as they have half-assed every other Windows Mobile product for the last 5 years. MS doesn't care about Windows Mobile. Sad, but true.
I'm already messin with the ripped treo app again since it combines MMS/SMS together but the HTC Home Plugin shortcuts don't work after I install it..
Something simple so I'm gonna try another version of the htc today plugin and hope that it works..
MrDSL said:
I'm already messin with the ripped treo app again since it combines MMS/SMS together but the HTC Home Plugin shortcuts don't work after I install it..
Something simple so I'm gonna try another version of the htc today plugin and hope that it works..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Wizard, but I think this will help you anyway.. You have to create a shortcut to \Windows\messagingapp.exe. I think currently, the HTC shortcuts (and even the button for me) was set to messaging.exe. After you create the shortcut for it and add it to your start menu, you should be able to map it to the button.
Seems the TP2 (stock roms, touch flo enabled) uses some new contact manager app?
So is there a way to make manila use the gold old WM6 contacts instead of the one it uses by default?
Please, Im not the only person looking for this.
I have been looking in HKLM-software-htc-manila and cant find anything yet. but there surely is a way to point the manila to the older type contacts app?
thanks
PS this is for us people who use this more business setting I guess. (or are old like me and dont like change?) Anyway, I have contacts grouped by Company, which is handy as hell & I dont need facebook. Please help us.
My solution would be that you start to make a call, hit green call button, hit the "contacts" soft button or whatever at the bottom, which would open the older type contacts, just like you had clicked on Start-All programs-contacts.
Thanks in Advance for any help or hints...
I have a real problem with the contact manager that this phone offers, i had to remap the button to bring the up other version , but still sucks for business use..so i loaded Pocket informant which helps but with out aD pad it is not as easy to use...got to find a solution for this, love the phone but one handed usage is very important and may drive me back to my old Tilt