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Hi guys,
My friends and me tried Black Shahow( black 4.0) today. It really got big memory as previous black version, free ROM 53M and RAM 30.4M, noticed that TOTAL RAM showing near 50M instead of 48M. The HTC home looks quite ok but for the weather panel the cities are limited for selection. THE BIGGEST BUG IS that sometime it CAN'T START PROPERLY and ALWAYS HANG during the re-starting period. You may need to reset it for several time just to start the phone.
Long time expectation but still encountered major bug.
Hope JJ can solve these bugs.
Perhaps this would be better off in the official thread? There was no need to start a new one.
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
try turn to landscape will be better but still need wait for new one..
most issues has been already resolved on www.4winmobile.com . if you need help, go to jasjamming forum and ask there. it was his request, and he did not answering question on two places. bye.
randomelements said:
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
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Thanks your guy. I think it will be better to wait for new rom..
Anyone still keep the "First release version"?
My X01HT cannot wake up after slept each time...
I cant wait...
rom has been updated
Should this be a seperate thread here or just put it with the black shadow thread?
wu_ybao said:
Hi guys,
My friends and me tried Black Shahow( black 4.0) today. It really got big memory as previous black version, free ROM 53M and RAM 30.4M, noticed that TOTAL RAM showing near 50M instead of 48M. The HTC home looks quite ok but for the weather panel the cities are limited for selection. THE BIGGEST BUG IS that sometime it CAN'T START PROPERLY and ALWAYS HANG during the re-starting period. You may need to reset it for several time just to start the phone.
Long time expectation but still encountered major bug.
Hope JJ can solve these bugs.
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No. For you maybe, but on my 8525 it's fast as hell and haven't had ANY problems or this "hang" problem either. The ROM is awesome!
I've run the rom also...I'm having no problems either. I experienced a hang during the install but after that I've been smooth and I'm HSDPA.
randomelements said:
Anyway, just FYI:
the original one was ok but jj added a file to fix HSDPA - this cuased a comflict with the current version of the ROM.
Apparently, if you disabled HSDPA things are better.
That's a workaround until jj releases a fixed ROM a bit later on.
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I tried it but it still doesn't work, previously i installed official wm5.0 rom / qtek 2.11.255.2. It works quite well and stable. Do anyone have idea how to fix the bug?
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
berdinkerdickle said:
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
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Seriously, there is a Hermes fans chatting room. In the chatting room, it is complainted as well that they got same experience as me. There is one similarity that we performed complete flash using Qtek 2.11.255.2 before updating to Black Shadow (4.0). I am thinking if there are conflictions between Black Shadow and Qtek latest WM5.0 ROM. However, we don't experience such bugs using Black Diamond which i regarded it as more stable one and faster than Shadow and some other cooked roms. Unfortunately, i can't access 4winmobile.com and can't comment this to JJ.
Should JJ read this may he give us a solution.
Anyhow, thanks for his great works and best regards.
For anyone seeing this thread now - there is an updated rom called shadow.rar already posted on wmblack.info and it fixes the problems from this morning.
wu_ybao said:
Seriously, there is a Hermes fans chatting room. In the chatting room, it is complainted as well that they got same experience as me. There is one similarity that we performed complete flash using Qtek 2.11.255.2 before updating to Black Shadow (4.0). I am thinking if there are conflictions between Black Shadow and Qtek latest WM5.0 ROM. However, we don't experience such bugs using Black Diamond which i regarded it as more stable one and faster than Shadow and some other cooked roms. Unfortunately, i can't access 4winmobile.com and can't comment this to JJ.
Should JJ read this may he give us a solution.
Anyhow, thanks for his great works and best regards.
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your best bet then would be to post at 4winmobile than here as that is where he supports it.
berdinkerdickle said:
Could someone please start a new thread Entitled: 'Black Shadow Works Great'
And then another one: 'Black Shadow Works So-So.'
Infact, everytime someone wants to say something, just start a New Thread.
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I was gonna make a new thread to discuss the making of new threads.
unwired4 said:
For anyone seeing this thread now - there is an updated rom called shadow.rar already posted on wmblack.info and it fixes the problems from this morning.
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Hi, i just downloaded and tried the shadow.rar. After flashed it is still the same, can't start properly. Is it possible because of Radio? Someone with radio 1.38 told me his phone working well. By the way, i installed CE-star.
wu_ybao said:
Hi, i just downloaded and tried the shadow.rar. After flashed it is still the same, can't start properly. Is it possible because of Radio? Someone with radio 1.38 told me his phone working well. By the way, i installed CE-star.
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ey, works great for me with 1.38 right now...so seems your issues aren't related to Radio version.
Try without CE-star (perhaps not compatible), and post results.
I find it thoroughly ammusing! all these posts dissing the rom creator and booing if the f**k up the install or the rom isn't perfect! when will you guys realise that we are in the thick of beta land! everything is a gamble! you don't put your head in the ovan just because someone else did and got away with it!
i'm pretty new to this rom business and only tried a few. I *****ed once but then came to my stark realisation. IT'S ALWAYS A GAMBLE! read the notes that come with the rom!
these guys are clued up enough to work at M$ (or Apple. imagine mobile OSX on a tytn!).
I think you guys need to chill and take it as it comes! that's the deal!
that's my 2 pence worth anyway!
I think some members of this forum just need to get laid.
It happened what I feared...the purpose of my 3d was completely misunderstood ( maybe because I'm not mothertongue English?).
I have absolutely nothing against Olipro , infact when I wrote he might have been the "culprit" I wrote culprit between " "...
I think he is a great guy even if I don't know him in the flesh and I completely trust him , proof is that I flashed his boot loader myself too...
I was just trying to understand which common points are there between all of us experiencing the SOD and I thought, from the very little that I know , that this could have been a possibility but if you read my 3d you'll find that I'm doing also other considerations so , in my opinion , closing it so quickly wasn't after all a good idea.
But this is life , Olipro is correctly consider a guru inside here and I'm nothing so i can understand all this reaction to protect him even if my intentions have been over looked because as I already wrote it was not my will to offend him or his job which is always great. I just wanted to break the discussion concerning the SOD which is always rotating around the same things and possible culprits and in this way we haven't reached very much so far...
I'm confident that Olipro didn't get upset after my message, I don't see a reason why others should do.
Regards all and thanks for the flame!
Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.
SO you are adding some third party applications...?
Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.
Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.
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Uh!...by the way, To answer to Bram87 I also did flash the new official WM6release from HTC but it didn't solve the issue I'm afraid.
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hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...
mariner said:
Oh yes, many of them... the same third party apps that I installed soon after I bought the tytn and didn't give me the SOD , including Wisbar and SPB software including mobile shell...
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Then you really should read up on your problem.
Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.
Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).
When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.
If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.
As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader
Bram87 said:
hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
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I got mine from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/40593234/HTC_WM6_Official.rar.html
gerald_s said:
When you bought your device it came with WM5. Most of the apps are designed for WM5 and some of them are causing troubles with WM6.
If you want to check out which apps are causing troubles flash a rom and run it without any app for some days. Then start to install one app after the other and test every app carefully.
As I told you above: I never had a SOD even though I've installed Olipros bootloader
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I'm glad to find that Olipro bootloader didn't ease the SOD thing...
I already did the kind of troubleshooting you suggested me without being able to isolate the problem.
My SOD started with WM5 and I decided to upgrade to WM6 for this reason but now it's back again!!!
unwired4 said:
Then you really should read up on your problem.
Most of the sleep of death issues have been identified as caused by third party apps.
Sounds to me like you are either using an application that simply isnt compatible with WM6 or you haven't downloaded the latest versions (SPB particularly, you need the latest updates).
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Now I don't have any SPB software acting in the background installed and I had the latest SOD one hour ago... Wisbar still onboard but auto start disabled and not running at the moment...
gerald_s said:
Man, you are obstinate.....
FYI: I'm using Olipros Bootloader since some months and I flashed at about 15 Roms and I never had a SOD.
Conclusion: Olipro ist NOT causing SOD'S.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with me...
Bram87 said:
hmm..strange. I downloaded this HTC wm6 rom http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=IASNVPS7
well good luck..
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I just downloaded the file...It's a different one from the other that I got out of Rapidshare...I will decide in the next days after testing some more the one that I have now... In case I need to flash the dopod one, do I need to remap the keyboard as I remember to have read somewhere or it's just flash it/use it? If yes can you point me out where to get directions or if short can you post how you did?
Regards
mariner said:
Thanks for sharing your experience with me...
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I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).
I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.
using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)
Looks like the Toshiba G900 is having sleep of death issues too. So, I think it is pretty safe to that Olipro is not the cause of the SOD. Hopefully someone can nail down the real cause of SOD soon as it seems to be a widespread issue that doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason.
smads said:
I thought it had been agreed that SOD was caused by the messenging app (mail) set to check mail regularly. I had SOD when this was set and also when I had it checking an exchange account (Mail2web).
I check mail manualy now and my tytn has been extremely stable. I have not had SOD for months.
using LVSW 19-5-07 (elf edition)
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Personally, my ollllld SOD issues were SD card related, exchange with retrieving items as they arrive has worked flawlessly for months now, I dont think there is one determining factor for the SOD's.
Since I see this thread is about Olipro, where is he nowdays, I never see him on the board, but then again I dont visit the other sections much.
One thing I noticed and it could be a coincidence...my SOD went away after I got rid of (unchecked) encryption. Just a thought...
I had a few SOD's back on Black 1.2 and I believe that was a Storage Card/apps issue. With Black Majik, I've never had a SOD and I run the same apps in the same manner I did from 1.2 with a few minor exceptions. One, I got rid of WAD. As great as it looks, it slows the device down and was a constant SR issue. Most of my main apps that need to constantly run I have stored to the device and NOT the storage card, so that too may be a hint as to why the SOD may occur. Do I think we'll ever narrow it down to a specific thing? No, cause I beleive many different things can cause it, and as all of our devices are unique, then it's up to each of us to work-out the SOD issue on our own with some of these threads as advice. I'm happy with my setup now and the SOD is a non issue.
The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.
Just avoid this rom and flash to another.
fun_key said:
The HTC Rom branded as pre-release (OS Build 1238 so far i remember) is known to have SOD.
Just avoid this rom and flash to another.
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Thanks for the hint, I will give the dopod one a try...or do you have anyone better to suggest???
Is there a rom which does not have these 2 problems?
I don't care if it is official, cooked, lite, clean.
Up to now I've tried the official and the latest one from bepe.
The official seems to have the battery problem, and bepe's seems to have both.
Now I'm going to try ADW version 1.1 .
Please post your experiences concerning these two bugs so we can save time on flashing our devices constantly.
Thanks
I am using AX3L 3.1.2.c Lite for some while now and have never experienced issues like these. (free memory stable at 28 MB and battery life beats 72 hours).
To me Mary 3.3.5 SL and AXEL 3.1.2.c Lite.
These are the ones I use over and over,battery is pretty good and so is memory,maybe someone doesn´t agree with me but this is just what I think or maybe is because of the third party apps I use.
thanks for your input.
I'm now going to try the new pdaviet one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352550
even if its revision is fake, it might be worth it.
I'll post my findings
Hey guys.
I have this stupid doubt,long time ago in this forum was rumoured that one of the X-buttons was the reason of a battery leak.
Does anyone remember some of this or knows anything about?
Thanks.
What do you mean 'one of the X buttons'?
as I understand, the pdaviet rom has 3 big advantages:
*fixes the password and account corruption bug
* battery lasts more than other roms (but i'm still not satisfied)
* no memory drain
what other roms meet these specifications?
I'm very happy with this rom except from the fact that they always customize dialers, icons etc.
oh and video calling is not working (even if you change the dialer)
rekall said:
What do you mean 'one of the X buttons'?
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Sorry that´s what I call it it´s the app that we use when we tap the X it ends running the applications,windows media player etc....
dta1974 said:
Sorry that´s what I call it it´s the app that we use when we tap the X it ends running the applications,windows media player etc....
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The X button is window task manager or HTC task manager.....
Are you sure about it? can you let me know how to check it?
widigol said:
The X button is window task manager or HTC task manager.....
Are you sure about it? can you let me know how to check it?
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Sorry widigol,I don´t know how to do it,this were old rumors posted in this forum long time ago....it was just a question in case someone remember.
I remember a battery drain due to SD Card... enabling its power management reduced the power drain.
dta1974 said:
Hey guys.
I have this stupid doubt,long time ago in this forum was rumoured that one of the X-buttons was the reason of a battery leak.
Does anyone remember some of this or knows anything about?
Thanks.
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I believe it was a setting... Some of the Rom's had the default set to minimize when tapping the "X" rather than close, switching the setting to Close on Tapping "X" resolved the problem of not keeping multiple applications constantly opened, thus many were reporting memory leaks... but it was probably just utilitizing too many resources...
However, new versions of the HTC Task Manager, can't really remember 2.xx or something had issues which did not save settings after tapping the "X".
I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to, but just my 2 cents... It's been awhile...
Good luck in your search
Thanks for your response and that nice explanation.
I have installed the RickyWyatt Kavana V20 ROM and I am wonderring if any one if experiencing problems with scrolling through the main screen or selecting thing's because every time I scroll I have to wait a second or two for the phone to scroll.
Hopefully there is a way to fix this problem because the ROM look's awesome but it is really slow for me.
Thank you in advance.
carltmac said:
I have installed the RickyWyatt Kavana V20 ROM and I am wonderring if any one if experiencing problems with scrolling through the main screen or selecting thing's because every time I scroll I have to wait a second or two for the phone to scroll.
Hopefully there is a way to fix this problem because the ROM look's awesome but it is really slow for me.
Have you checked the memory? I believe that Ricky referenced this when he put out Rom 20
Thank you in advance.
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You will need to ask Ricky but I believe that the answer is you have to many panels and need to disable some of them.
Or... overclock your CPU a little bit. Look in the Tools folder for the OMAP clock program. I'd recommend about 204 for good battery life and a little increase in perfomance. Go 240 if you want more performance but shorter battery life
where about's is the Tool's folder I can't seem to find it on the phone?
On the Start menu ?!?
isnt it "accesories" in the start menu?
Well in my version of Rick's ROM it's in "My Tools".... either way... it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to find an installed application in the start menu.
not tryying to sound like a dumb ass but in Accessorie's it's not there either (I am usseing V20)
carltmac said:
not tryying to sound like a dumb ass but in Accessorie's it's not there either (I am usseing V20)
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Never mind I found it sorry I was blind I guess.
Also I am wondering how to change the menu's around (if possible) it's not that I am to lazy to figure it out myself but I am worried I might mess around with something I shouldn't be messing around with. What I mean about changing the menu's is how to add and delete blade's from the main screen.
Thank you guy's for your time it is very much apprecciatted.
Also can I put a SDHC card in my phone? How about a 4 GB SD card or is 2GB the limit?
sorry I had to repost but I have one more question, is setting the frequency to 288 alright for my phone? Is there any chance it will mess it up?
It will lockup your phone and never recover. Stay below 250...
p.s. Rearanging "blades" and start menu folders may be a little over your head right now. Do a little more reading first....
And yes you can use SDHC cards in your phone...
carltmac said:
sorry I had to repost but I have one more question, is setting the frequency to 288 alright for my phone? Is there any chance it will mess it up?
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I wouldnt push the envelope of oveclocking your phone past 240 or 252mhz
some people can get away with higher numbers it seems. others have issues with the phone locking up and then wont boot up...forcing a hard reset. so be cautious if you venture past 252mhz
Isnt that what I said two posts above ?!
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP MAN!!! It is very much appreciatted. Before you gave me your reply I set it to 280 and it messed up but I was able to change it back (LUCKY) with out a hard boot. I am not questioning your answer but are you positive (I don't want to buy it and then realize it doesn't work) that I can use a SDHC card (4GB) because I emailed some one who was selling it on EBay and he said it doesn't work on my phone?
Thank you once again.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320242653148&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
The eBay guys phone is most likely NOT running WM6.1. You should have no problems running 4GB in a Dash with WM6.1.
OrganicM said:
Isnt that what I said two posts above ?!
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my bad,,,, i was only looking at his post on page one, and didnt see your post on page 2. Didnt mean to STEAL YOUR THUNDER
ItsDon said:
The eBay guys phone is most likely NOT running WM6.1. You should have no problems running 4GB in a Dash with WM6.1.
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I am not so worried about running a 4GB card but more worried about it not working because it's a SDHC and not just a SD Card?
Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?
broucker said:
Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?
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Without bugs? No software is without bugs. With that said, there are many 'non-working' things. Read the main thread, it's got all these words that will answer this question. First 4 posts are great, after that the search feature works wonders.
Also, what happened to trying it out? This is for fun/testing, it's not meant to replace WinMo. So if that's what you're looking for (WinMo replacement) I'd look elsewhere. Like a new phone
broucker said:
Im sorry if this was asked but i'm on CSD internet connection.
so: can i run android (froyo preferably) on my touch pro without bugs? or what are the things that do not work on it?
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"Bugless" is preference, IMO. Sure it runs on my Fuze as long as I stay within the guideliness from the link mentioned in the previous post. If you are looking for benchmarks, you might be better off with a device that actually comes with Android (also IMHO).
By the way what are you attempting to do with this?
Use it as my primary OS. i'm willing to sacrifice the camera for it.
broucker said:
Use it as my primary OS. i'm willing to sacrifice the camera for it.
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There's a lot of other little quirks, I wouldn't use it as your primary OS - unless your phone isn't used as a phone of course
Most of the problems people truly have usually are related to the phone sleeping and missing calls, or rebooting in a call etc. Stuff that's mission-critical so-to-speak - I know some that use the phone completely unactivated and love Android full time. There's also some I know that have the phone activated and just don't care and use it all the time.
I'd say for most 'normal' people, it's not ready to use full time as your primary OS. But as with anything tech-related - try it for yourself! Don't let my opinion make your decision, only you will be able to tell. That's the greatest thing about this whole project, doesn't damage the phone, no need to flash anything... Try before you buy, except it's free anyways
welll I had it!
When i bought the phone (secound hand or third ) it had it installed already. It was froyo. I playd with it until it crashed! I had several runs until someday when i noticed that sounds ain't working no more. why? don't know.
nevermind...
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I have another problem @ wich i don't find help.
I'm trying to dump the ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507&page=22 here but I get this error. can someone help me?
broucker said:
When i bought the phone (secound hand or third ) it had it installed already. It was froyo. I playd with it until it crashed! I had several runs until someday when i noticed that sounds ain't working no more. why? don't know.
nevermind...
OFFTOPIC:
I have another problem @ wich i don't find help.
I'm trying to dump the ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507&page=22 here but I get this error. can someone help me?
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Hmmm... Have you tried THIS yet?
no!
R^7Z said:
Hmmm... Have you tried THIS yet?
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but what is it?!
broucker said:
but what is it?!
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It's a lite WinMo ROM that auto loads Haret from SD card the author is MichyPrima
As mentioned in THIS post. In my opinion, the closest that RAPH has been reported to run from nand. Keeping in mind this doesn't actually run from nand.
Just wondering if you tried it or not...