what's the deal with "message cannot be sent" message - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..

idodekel said:
i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..
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I've noticed on my phone that if I happen to be sending a message at the same time I'm receiving one, my outgoing message usually fails. I'm not sure why this is though.

i agree , i think there is a bug hidden in this issue..
i have many good things to say on my deviice but there has to be a good reson or solution for this , to bad HTC are not recieving our complains and check this

I had always assumed it was a carrier issue. Disconnecting and reconnecting the radio always has fixed the issue for me.

may i asked how u do that ?
my solution is softreset...

is that happen with the TF messeging ?
or the Win messeging ?
casue it happened with me in the TF thread mode
and i stoped sending from that interface till a solution come up
now i send from our old good Win messege with no problem what so even

itdid happen with in the touch flow mode ,
i will try the old known and good wm mode in order to send message , and i will keep you updated.

For me it has something to do with the numbers saved in the phone. I got them all in +49 (0xxx) 1234567 format. When calling someone the phone automatically ereases the 0 and dials +49xxx1234567 - when sending messages the 0 remains in the number and I get the error. I can erease the 0 by hand and then the message is send. After that i can reply to that person using winmo messaging without ereasing the 0...

Partial solution perhaps
Mad Marc said:
For me it has something to do with the numbers saved in the phone. I got them all in +49 (0xxx) 1234567 format. When calling someone the phone automatically ereases the 0 and dials +49xxx1234567 - when sending messages the 0 remains in the number and I get the error. I can erease the 0 by hand and then the message is send. After that i can reply to that person using winmo messaging without ereasing the 0...
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Hi Marc.
Don´t know if it´s the same problem but there´s an official fix that sound´s about right here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=0&dl_id=625
For some obscure reason the explaining text is in french on that site, whereas everything else is in english.
Be advised however that this fix is dated july 30. 09.
There´s a ROM-upgrade dated August 8. 09. Now i can´t be absolutely sure but if I was employed in HTC maintanance, i´d include old patches in the ROM-upgrade. Your post states your ROM version to be 1.14.111.2 and the new German version is 1.19.407.1 so you might be able to solve the issue with a ROM upgrade.
I haven´t upgraded my self. Even though there´s a Danish one provided as well. I´m waiting for the stock WinMo6,5 rom. Installing bought software, contacts, backup and everything feels like too much trouble when we´re going to have to do the whole shebang all over again in a fortnight or so.
In any case the German rom can be found here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=629
Regards
ELO

samarrai said:
is that happen with the TF messeging ?
or the Win messeging ?
casue it happened with me in the TF thread mode
and i stoped sending from that interface till a solution come up
now i send from our old good Win messege with no problem what so even
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I've also had this occur on the TP1 and the Titan, where I was using the Windows default app.

Polar67 said:
Don´t know if it´s the same problem but there´s an official fix that sound´s about right here:
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Thanks Elo, just tried it. Seems to work only on Unbranded TP2. Mine is a T-mobile Vario V, I get an error "Incorrect Device".
I will wait for WiMo6.5 as well, I guess it will be included there. And T-mobile will provide a free update for their MDAs.

what's worse - while that error message is sat in the background, until i click it i cant receive any incoming messages (actually looks like i loose them). it cost me a fortune using it abroad, this bug! what's even worse - the tp2 rom provided by mpd is an older version to what this patch fixes, hence incorrect device. waiting for htc reply

idodekel said:
i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..
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Do you happen to use PIM backup?

no i am not using ,
i am sure this is a bug, i use now the windows mobile messaging module and its flawless.
HTC YOU HAVE A BUG!!!
(please fix it )

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Unwanted Text Messages Still Coming w/ WM6 (Shipping Version)?

I deleted all of the snapin software while I was running the beta version to stop the 4-5 SMS messages being sent daily but still received a text message everytime I had to reboot or turn off and on my phone.
It would be from the #: 1121611611
The Message would say:
453 Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code. 06050415CC15CC60D8
My crude fix was keeping my phone charged to avoid having to restart the phone.
Last night I flashed in the leaked shipping version of WM6. Much to my dismay I was still receiving these SMS messages upon every reboot of my phone.
Anyone got an idea about what's going on?
huh...
I just flashed the new leaked rom last night and haven't had any int. messages sent...I even called t-mobile and the last international message that was sent was the 21st...the last time I hard reset my phone with the beta on it. Have you checked to see if it is a program on your phone doing it?
The only text messages I've recieved are ones intended for me...
Unwanted Text Messages And How To Stop Them
Go back uninstall the new Official T-Mobile wm6 ROM and reinstall the T-Mobile clean WM5 Rom that was on your Dash/Excalibur, when you purchase it. Next, install back the new wm6 official ROM and the unwanted text messages will stop! Never ever install the new official wm6 ROM over the old beta wm6 ROM. If you do you will have problems! Let me know how things work out!
i too have receive these unwanted text messages... but i update from wm5 would i have to restart the whole process over?
Did you remove (not rename) the My5 startup link?
Ka.
no i dont believe so.. nor do i know what that is lol
Check in the /Windows/Startup directory and with Total Commander (not the standard File Explorer) check you have or not anything else than "Voice Command" or "WifiInit".
Ka.
i see my5msgcenter voice command and wifiinit in teh startup folder? what do i do with them?
Text messages
Guys are your Dash/Excalibur sim unlock, I want to get to the bottom of this text message issue!
I think it's more related to some app re-installed or not correctly disabled.
Anyway, to answer your question, myne is unlocked and still waiting for my online "balance" to get updated and check my SMS usage.
Ka.
Intergalactic said:
Guys are your Dash/Excalibur sim unlock, I want to get to the bottom of this text message issue!
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Mine isn't -- I applied the update to a non-beta'd Dash with it's shipping ROM.
Mine isn't -- I applied the update to a non-beta'd Dash with it's shipping ROM.
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And you're not experiencing any SMS prob as far as I understood.
Ka.
Intergalactic said:
Guys are your Dash/Excalibur sim unlock, I want to get to the bottom of this text message issue!
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Mine is sim unlocked. Gonna try out downgrading back to wm5. That was my last resort. You just tipped the scale. I'll reply back with findings.
I'm having the same issue. I'm coming from the WM6 Beta build.
I can't seem to downgrade to previous versions of the Dash or the Excalibur ROMs. I keep getting an Error 260 message.
-John
jfreiman said:
I'm having the same issue. I'm coming from the WM6 Beta build.
I can't seem to downgrade to previous versions of the Dash or the Excalibur ROMs. I keep getting an Error 260 message.
-John
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Did you remember to flash in the older bootloader?
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282199
kast said:
Check in the /Windows/Startup directory and with Total Commander (not the standard File Explorer) check you have or not anything else than "Voice Command" or "WifiInit".
Ka.
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I changed the lnk extenstions to lnk2. I rebooted and the problem has gone away - no more unwanted emails.
Now when do you think the non-T-Mobile branded ROM will get leaked? ;-)
Ok, I did a quick search on Google for 1121611611 and guess what? That error message (or SMS with an error) is quite common. Some people receive it when they try to send a SMS or reply to a SMS.
Found ref to TMobile, either when somebody goes to TMobile but he's/she's not fully in their database and not recognised as such or when is replying to a TMobile subscriber...
Anyway, as I'm a bit asleep now, I would suggest to do a quick Google on 1121611611 and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Ka.
I changed the lnk extenstions to lnk2. I rebooted and the problem has gone away - no more unwanted emails.
Now when do you think the non-T-Mobile branded ROM will get leaked? ;-)
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Really happy about that, started to feel a bit scared but since I am a complete parano, checked 20 times for any strange process or startup lnk before putting my SIM in, just that couldn't get my online statement to show and couldn't see if any unwanted SMS had been sent, altough was sure didn't receive any from "unknown numbers".
The unbranded (pure HTC) should be coming soon, I hope, knowing that the branded is scheduled for 4.5 (4th of May, for the US people) I guess the unbranded can't be scheduled much later than that.
Ka.
philocity said:
Did you remember to flash in the older bootloader?
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282199
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No, but I solved the problem by changing the Startup files.
Thanks.

Huge problem - I don't receive all SMS, just some of them

Hi!
I'm subscribed to weather forecast that comes in 3 text (SMS) messages every evening @ 10 PM.
When I swiched from wizzard to hermes, I noticed, that I got only one or two messages instead of 3 every night. I thought there has to be a problem with the device, so I changed it.
== BUT==
Now I have a brand new Hermes - and with the same problem!!! It just looses SMS messages. Several people have been complaining to me that they sent me SMS which I did not receive.
What would be the problem?
the first hermes ran WM6 black 3.01 with 1.41 radio and the second one runs WM6 black dymond with 1.40 radio. The only common thing is that both devices were treated with Oli's HardSPL 7.
p.s. when I put my SIM card into a nokia, I receive all 3 messages as normal.
PLEASE HELP!!!
I dunno if this will help at all but...
...try going into start>settings>phone>services(tab)
click on 'voice mail and messages' then tap the 'get settings' button.
It should get the SMS and voicemail numbers from the network.
Might help...but its a long shot.
mrvanx said:
I dunno if this will help at all but...
...try going into start>settings>phone>services(tab)
click on 'voice mail and messages' then tap the 'get settings' button.
It should get the SMS and voicemail numbers from the network.
Might help...but its a long shot.
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That actually helped me in the past. For some odd reason my SMS's would get stuck in the outbox and not send, so upon advice like above, I clicked "get settings", and all was well. It hasn't happened in a long while, but it was solved by doing that.
it actually may be your sim card similar thing happened to me got a new sim card fixed it.
I had a very similar problem with normal ssmes not coming thru and smses being held in the outbox. The problem started when I changed to an AKU3 Rom. The old South African 1.35 Rom worked perfectly but as soon as I changed to their new AKU3 the sms problem started. I had also upgraded my Radio to the 1.41 Rom.
How I solved the problem was I got my sim card replaced (which I found didn't solve the problem). I then only installed the apps I really needed and didn't upgrade the Radio.
For the past 2 weeks I haven't had any problems, so maybe try hard reset your phone, and start by only running it as standard and see what happens, also maybe try downgrade your radio.
Ensure the you have a message centre assigned in the phone settings. If you cannot get it automatically, call your operator and enter it manually.
Hi rebel I have noticed the same problem...but it is regarding the SMS and MMS...so could be some operator incompatibility or sth...will try the"get operator settings" thing...but I think this won`t solve our problem, cause not receiving all SMS/MMS it is a thing...but not receiving just some SMS/MMS is another problem...
Regards,
Primoz
Hello to all!
I tried "get operator settings" and will report if there will be any progress. But I doubt, because if settings were wrong, than I wouldn't receive any text messages. But I can receive SMS, just not all of them.
It just makes me crazy.
@PC78: we're both using same network (Mobitel Slovenia). If you had exactly the same problem, than I guess it has to be some incompatibility between hermes and operator? I will contact them and ask for explanation.
In the meantime, I will flash my hermes to some old ROM with stoneaged Radio (1.03 or something). Let's see what happens ...
Greetings,
Robert
I have the same problem, could it be the HardSPL?
gh0st, where are you from? Till now, only users of Mobitel Slovenia reported this problem.
I don't know if it's hard SPL. But it's possible. Can it be removed from the device? I'm willing to try. But I need some instructions on how to remove it and bring the device back to the "factory" state.
regards,
Robert
...Hard-SPL?...what have the Hard-SPL to do with SMS/MMS?...I think it could be only an OS/Radio ROM problem or operator incompatibility but not Hard-SPL...
Regards,
Primoz
same problem here...
delayed texts and no sms recieved...
i found out that even i have signal on my cel, im out of coverage when contacted.. but this is intermittent
there are times its ok.. then not.. then ok..
this happens only when i upgraded my dopod 838 pro
thats why i ask experts here on other thread how can i roll back the original
setting of my cel.. specially the radio..
im from asia region... can anybody help me too..
i upgraded to 1.40 radio which i think suited only for cingular network or other else...
Hard spl olipro 2.10 etc...
I had problems with SMS wneh using Black 3.0, using LVSW (latest) now and have no problems.
I suggest you try using one of the LVSW roms instead of Black - try Elf's or Sleuth's variants as they are the most complete.
Also, the most popular shipping "new" radio out there is 1.38.00.10. Try that radio as well.
Hello guys,
A bad news, really.
It's confirmed: Hermes has some serious compatibility issues with certain mobile operators (networks).
I contacted a company that imports and repairs HTC devices in Slovenia. Technician told me that they are aware of the problem and are solving this "missing SMS" issue together with carrier (Mobitel) and manufacturer (HTC).
They didn't yet solve it, though.
This technician also told me that this problem is ROM-independent, so it does not matter if I'm using june 2006 stoneaged ROM with 1.03 radio or newest cooked WM6.
Greetings,
Robert
go into start >> settings >>> phone >>>services >>> click on voice mail & text messages and click on get settings
it will show you your settings for text message service center. Make sure there is a "+" sign before the number. for example + 1 (312) 314-9810 >>> this number is for cingular message center anyways "+" sign should solve the problem
cheers
thesame problems with sending sms or replaying and reciving.
even on orginal Era's ROM
Sometimes everything is perfect but when I tap replay, sms stucks in outbox.
Or sometimes when just wanted to write new sms.
Only SR helps.
my operator: Poland - Era gsm
Thanks for the replay Rebel...so my concern was [email protected] incompatibility problems...doooh...
Regards,
Primoz
I have had my hermes for only 1 week on T-mobile uk PAYG. Everthing works cool, but I have had a couple of calls from people why didnt you respond to "x" text message. they just did not ever come through at my end.
Guess this is the price to pay for having everything bar the kitchen sink in your pocket.
I can comfirm that I had this problem on Black Dymond (3.5) with certain type of sms.
with elf 2.1 crackberry all works well.
So it Is rom dependant.
Arnie
p.s radio 1.40

Missing SMS / text messages

Hello,
I've suspected for a while(and confirmed with friends) that relatively often, my sms don't get to them. It's shown as sent in my phone and in the sms threads, but they simply don't recieve them.
So I tested it out with another phone, sending 5 sms' to the other phone and it only recieved the first one. the other 4 never got there... Now could this be some sort of anti spam causing it? - I did send them in rapid succession. However when I send messages from the OTHER phone to me, regardless of how quick, I get them all. And we're on the same network/provider so that doesn't seem to be the problem.
During regular use, even SMS' sent with lots of time inbetween gets lost occassionally.
I've never had this problems with my old phone so does anyone else have a clue why this is happening? As you can imagine, it's frustrating thinking someone has gotten a message but it never reached there.
Thank you.
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
RMU said:
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
I had that problem before with my touchPro. All I did was hard reset the phone, active sync my contacts and I sent out text messages. Everything worked fine after that.
aiaob said:
Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
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Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
RMU said:
Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
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God you know what, you're right. Thanks. I did look through the WM sent folder before but not far down enough..
It does seem to drop the + after the first SMS then not reapply the + until I get a reply.
Annoyingly my phone still tells me "Message Sent" instead of invalid number though, so there's no way to tell if it sent the message without going to check the sent folder I assume?
Doesn't seem like there's a fix or even a confirmed cause for this yet?
I'm having a strange reversed problem: all SMS I send are regularly delivered, but I "miss" many incoming ones. the strage thing is that it happens (AFAIK) only with my girlfriend's ones!! nobody else still complained about me not anwering, so that should mean I received and answered all other mesages.
Please note that we have the same mobile operator (Vodafone Italy)
today she tried her SIM with her bro's phone, and guess what, the problem is still here BUT the difference is in lost messages: 4 out of five lost with her Moto v9, 2 out of 6 lost with her bro's nokia. that sounds really weird to me.
where do you think the problem might be? mine/her SIM, or phone?
I'll call Vodafone Italy later, but their assistance and support is really awful, they do not even know what they are talking about, and reply with the same pre-confectioned anwers every time.

Missing Incoming SMS/Text messages

My Problem is, that I recieve only some of my SMS/text that was sent to my. So I heard from friends that they sent me a text message, but I didn't get it. There is no pattern on this problem. I have a conversation with 4 sms sent to me, but i only recieve 1,2,4. Message Nr. 3 is missing. Sometimes its also the first message thats lost.
All my friend got the status for sms/text activated and they get the status "delivered" for the lost messages.
Someone else that problem?
I only have seen the problem about sending, but none with getting.
yeah the same happened to me recently, but only with my GF number (same operator), not other contacts (AFAIK: since no one complained, no sms got missed!). still no diagnosis, and no solution obviously. hope that won't lead to a hard reset, which is a major pain
I had an issue that my sim card was full - it seemed the phone was trying to save sms to the sim. I deleted a few and now all seems okay. However they can't be going to the sim any more as I have received more than I deleted.
This happened after I had been using a spare phone as I went camping and needed a phone that had a few days battery life instead of the day or so that my touch pro 2 has
thanks for your help smudge.
it's not my case since my sim card is blank, no sms or contacts in it.
however, yesterday evening I hard resetted the phone, now I'm waiting to test if the problem is still here. If it is, it must be the operator's fault, or something related to my GF device / SIM. I'll let you know if I discover something new...
I have similar problem - I'm supposed to receive SMS, but I don't. I didnt have this problem (I didnt notice it) before I installed latest version of S2U2, maybe there's some problem with it? I have S2U2 set to show incoming SMS/MMS messages...
Also I have enabled hack mentioned in this forum which powers on mobile on receiving message (so it is displayed on the screen, not only notified by blinking LED and sound as is default setting). Maybe there is some incompatibility with S2U2, Im trying to pipoint this.
ChAr
uhm...missing sms should be the operator's problem,
i've been having such issue not only with TP2.....not all the time but usually consecutive sms with only one person usually caused it
i have the same problem, tried hard resets rom flash but no success!
i am from austria!..
please somone fix that thing
after HR yesterday evening no more missed sms until now, no one I had notice of. but that doesn't make me feel safe, it needs to be checked further.
surely gunggu is true!
sorry, probably ot, but i have the opposite problem.
I have too much sms in the incoming folder: I can see my sent sms. That means an sms like (me: hi bla bla..)
the received notification is disabled. any hint?
so after some tests, I figured out my problem.
It was the programm proxy cab, that I used. If it is installed, I got only every second sms, after it is deinstalled I got every sms...
Strange problem.
Hey there people all much smarter than me. I just bout a HTC touch pro 2 (i know 2009 called and wants their phone back) anyway i am having this problem of some sms messages not getting through. i have not been able to see a pattern due to not finding out about missing messages till sometimes weeks after i missed getting them
if anyone found a solution thats not alreay mentioned in this thread (cant find an option to save stuff to the sim)(cant find mention anywhere of "program proxy cab"
any help would be great otherwise i will have to go back to using my HTC tytn 2

Text Messaging Problems

Anyone else have problems with text messaging?
Scenario: I receive a text message, the notification pops up on screen. I have my phone handy, so i hit the reply button.
The phone takes me to Windows Mobile text messaging. I send my text message reply. If the same person texts me back, it is not registered as being read.
So i exit the screen back to the TouchFlo 3d menu. I have a new text message (that i have already seen and read)
So i go to the windows mobile text system to read it...again.
NOW, lets say i have a full conversation with someone. 30 messages later, I still have 30 unread messages, every time i open the windows mobile text messanger, it removes ONE new message, not all.
So, i never get to use the TouchFlo 3d messenger, which is half decent, and the WM6.1 text messenger is stupid.
Does anyone know of a setting, or a third party text program that will over ride this crap, or am i just hoping this all works out.
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
kamitsuna said:
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
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this is a known issue my friend...
download SafeInBoxExtender... search the main forum...
it will let you "mark all messages as read" ..
it will cure your problem right up..
*nods* i have it already, it doesnt exactly "cure" the problem, UGH!
We shouldnt have to come up with stupid fixes for stuff microsoft should already have fixed.
Is 6.5 slated to fix some of this garbage?
I have another problem
i cant use the TF messaging
allot of times it tells me message not sent
and if not there is no delivery report
i found out the there is a TF delivery report i must check 1st
but its not fixed !!!
when i go out of the message it becoms unchecked !!
So at the end i used the Win messaging with no problems there
but i wish i can just click the incoming message and reply right away
hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
karandras24 said:
hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
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U mean u reply on sms from the TF thread mode with no problems and u receive a delivery report ???
without having to use the Win messaging mode ?
why me then?
hope any one can help me
my Rom version is 1.19.415.1
dated 06/12/09
im using the sprint TP2
Another partial fix here...Partial because Ive only using the new dll for a bout a week(not sure of long temr effects) & I cant make a successful backup using sprite backup etc without adding the dll files to the exclude list of files to backup.
im not quite sure i understand what you just said.

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