Use CarPC As BT Voice Gateway - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I have a PC computer in my car that I use for many thing and I want to integrate my phone into it by using a Bluetooth voice gateway to play the sound over the speakers in the car and use a mic to talk into. Obviously since this is the Rhodium forum I have a Touch Pro 2 (by Verizon) running OEM ROM. The PC is running XP SP2 with Widcomm bluetooth stack.
Making calls I have no problems. When I'm in range it connects and when I make a call its flawless. The problem is when I get a call. When a call comes in it rings once then answers without me doing anything. And no its not the auto answer feature on a headset (i know that would be the first reply if i didnt say that). The issue is that even though there is a BT link to the PC the voice gateway doesn't connect until in a call. When i make one it connects when i hit send to dial, when i receive a call it connects when it starts to ring and once there is a connection it answers. It would be bad if im driving and someone calls i dont want to talk to or something and it just answers without me knowing.
I tested this theory with my regular BT headset. I had the headset off and I called the phone and once it started ringing i turned on the head set and sure enough it answered.
My question is how do i get it to hold a solid connection all the time like a normal BT headset would? Or make it not answer once a headset is connected?
I tried using the BlueSoleil BT stack also. This one worked ok once everything was connected but every time I came back in range of the PC or turned the PC on I would have to manually connect the voice gateway again.
Thanks for any help!
Edit: oh yea, also I had the same issues with my XV6800 (Titan) and never got it to work right either.

anyone have any ideas on this?

no one on this forum has tried this other than me?

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XDAIIi, Bluetooth Headset and GPS

Hi
I'm looking at purchasing an XDA IIi from O2, both to use as a PDA, phone and for SatNav. It's likely that I'll go with TomTom and I already have a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I've already got an O2 blue headset that works with my SonyEricsson T610 and I'll also be wanting to use that whilst in the car.
I have some questions that I hope some of you might be able to answer...
Is it possible to use both a bluetooth headset and bluetooth GPS at the same time?
Does the XDA IIi support the O2 blue as the SE T610 does, i.e. I press the button and say the contact I want to call and then the phone (home, mobile etc).?
Thanks for any help!
GWG
Hi
I have the Jabra BT 200 headset and the Leadtek 9537 GPS unit. They both work fine at the same time on my Xda IIi.
I was checking the GPS using Pocket Streets (have not re-installed Tom Tom yet but I do not envisage a problem)
The BT setup seems better on the IIi, there wasn't any messing around with the COM port settings like there was with the Xda II.
If you mean the fonix VoiceDial software that comes with it, then yes, it does work that way.
On the whole, I am pleased with the IIi (I had the II for a year), the camera is flakey but I can live with that.
MarkySan...
Thanks for that... Looks like it'll do what I'm after
I might then have to become a regular on these forums!
Cheers
GWG
Be warned, if you mean the o2 CLIP blue headset (made by iTech), I also have it and have been unable to get it working. (Why oh why can I not have the old stack from the xda2 as that worked perfectly with headset profile)
At one point I was briefly able to get it installed as a handsfree device but it then stopped working. Before I got rid of my xda2 I tried re-pairing the devices and it worked great first time. Other BT headsets I had access to worked fine.
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
2 BT devices simultaneously on XDA II
This is an interesting problem. I've got an XDA II, a leadtek BT gps receiver and a nokia handsfree BT carkit, plus Tom Tom.
I haven't got them all working at once yet and have been told there is a problem getting the handsfree to work anyway.
This was from a so called reputable high st mobile phone chain (who also said that only one BT device could be connected at once).
Any help or advice appreciated....
David
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
ive used it all week on calls and even had the voice through my jabra 250 gps stayed on all the time it was fine the only problem i had was i couldnt get gprs without a softreset
Alix, are you saying you got the Tom Tom voice directions through the Jabra?
If so, I'm off to get the i!
Firstly is this forum ONLY for developers?
Because you will quickly discover that I am not a developer but a confused user and I was hoping that I could get some advice here?
Anyway I have a Bluetooth headset and was considering getting TomTomGo but also wondered if the headset and a BT GPSr would work together.
Also does anyone know if we will ever get voice dialling working on MobilePPC? I had a brief discussion with someone at Fonix who said that "Microsoft does not expose the necessary functions to third party software developers like Fonix".
Actually, now I've been using it for a while, it seems the reason Tom Tom drifted was because of a loss of signal.
Using the BT headset and Tom Tom with the BT GPS together is fine.
What is annoying though is the fact that the Phone App pops up in front of Tom Tom and doesn't go away when the call is complete.
Also, when touching the button on the headset to open the connection with the phone, it doesn't automatically start the Voice dial, you still have to reach across and fumble about looking for the button on the side. Has anyone got any ideas if it's possible?
That being said, the voice dial works OK.. not brilliant, and the voice that tells me what it thinks I've said is rather disappointing.. I want to keep telling it to 'Please speak more clearly' !
And I too can hear the Tom Tom voice prompts through the BT headset when the conection is open, although I prefer not to.
See my note re what the Fonix guy said above.
aRGybaRGy said:
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
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You can ONLY connect to MMS via the O2 GPRS network. Since your WIFI is outside their network, and is somebody elses, they won't let you login to their servers to send. All the carriers work this way - it's how they charge!
Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda
Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda
All I can help you with is that using my Jabra I press the call end button on the headset and the sound for my Tom Tom and MP3s comes through the headset.
Hope this helps.
Thanks mindracing. Do you know what services/profile your jabra return when you enquire it?
KR,
Reda
It shows up as Hands Free connection to Jabra 250.
Status just shows Jabra 250/Audio Gateway.
If you know where else to look just ask.
Thanks mindracing. yesterday I tried every possible combination but it seems I cannot stream my music and Tomtom instruction to the car kit.
Thanks anyway.
KR
Reda
just a note on this. I have had a jabra bt205 working with a QStarz BT-800 gps, it works ok BUT when i changed from the jabra to a stereo headset it workd ok too but only on the crap audio quality. I installed the cab file for A2DP support. now i have really good audio but as soon as i try to connect the gps the audio goes all choppy and eventualy cuts out.
It is of my limited opinion that you cant run A2DP and a bluetooth GPS because of the bandwidth (data transfer) available. Ive yet to see if i can get tomtom running with the wired gps and A2DP quality headset.
Think ill be goin back to wired headset for on the bike so i can have music, tomtom and calls... just need to find someone on here who has got a voice dial prog to run from the green call button on the wired headset.
GPS and BT Headset on XDA II
Anton.Valleyman said:
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
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I use the MS BT stack with my Blue Ant BT earpiece and the Broadcom BT stack with a BTGPS74R receiver (aka Holox BT-321). They both work well individually, but not together. Another post made the point about com port issues ... well yes, I use the Broadcom BT Manager for this purpose, but the XDA II does not pair with the Blue Ant, even with TomTom 6 OFF. It shows up but is not really paired correctly.
Perhaps there is a simple answer ... if so, I am sure someone will advise me.

Bluetooth drops incoming call!! :(

Hey guys,
i was wondering if anyone was facing this problem... i have the Alpine 103BT in my car which has an inbuilt parrot bluetooth system. I have noticed that when someone calls me it shows up on the lcd on the headunit then immediately drops the call! it shows up as a missed call on my tp2... but when i call using this bluetooth system then it works like a charm!
Any idea what i can do to change this? Is there a setting i have inadvertently changed?
I would really appreciate this because this call dropping really defeats the point of hands free!
Elfangor
I've got the same problem.
Just look a few posts down the list and you'll notice my 'cry for help'.
So far though, nobody's come to the rescue.
I've been reading that our phones have a unique BT-implementation, so it could be down to a bug in that area. If more people show up having similar issue, we might know.
Until then: fingers crossed and hope for sombody to post a solution.
Great! its not just me then! I hope it gets sorted! it gets on your nerves after awhile!
That's putting it mildly.
This sucks big-time: when on a business-call you definitely don't want your headset to die in you. During any conversation, really, but blasting along the motorway it's the last thing you need.
I also have an alpine 103 bt and an htc touch(elf) with onyx rom on it.
my problem is that when i make a call either from the head unit or the phone on the head unit it stops the music, displays CALLING and then after 3 seconds it displays ------------- , resumes the music, but the phone doesnt hang up. It continues the call, shows that is stil connected but you cant hear anything.
this is really frastrating as it does this sort of thing randomly and not always.
any thoughts?
Your symptoms sound a bit different from ours so it could be a totally different problem.
We might need to be paitient until one of the experts has a simiral experience and dived into the software.
Until then, I'm baffled.
eidikos said:
I also have an alpine 103 bt and an htc touch(elf) with onyx rom on it.
my problem is that when i make a call either from the head unit or the phone on the head unit it stops the music, displays CALLING and then after 3 seconds it displays ------------- , resumes the music, but the phone doesnt hang up. It continues the call, shows that is stil connected but you cant hear anything.
this is really frastrating as it does this sort of thing randomly and not always.
any thoughts?
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Come to think of it... i have a similar problem.. when i get an incoming call it stops the music and registers a call and just a few second later..i get the --------------, and then the music comes back...by the time i fish my phone out of the pocket ive got a missed call! havnt noticed any problems when im calling though.
i tried repairing the phone to the unit but same thing! not sure what else i could do
Similar problem (I think)
Cant get a working setup in my car kit. I have a Jaguar XF SC with bluetooth handsfree...The TP2 (TMO US) pairs and docks fine, but doesnt work well. Incoming calls dont seem to be recognized, and outbound calls will dial and communicate, but wont hangup. When I hang up from the TP2, the car kit still thinks its connected and mutes the radio until i forcebly disconnect from TP2...
arg...
I've got exactly the same problem as the original poster. Mine's a vodafone TP2 with the standard vodafone rom. I've got the Alpine 104BTi. I can make outgoing calls ok but as has been described any incoming call will show the caller ID for about 1 ring and then it hangs up the call.
I've got a Jabra BT500 which works perfectly. I am wondering whether it may be the actual firmware in the Alpine device. If you look at the phone compatibility list on the Alpine website the TP2 is not listed. It worked fine with my Kaiser and this is listed as compatible.
I emailed their tech support and they said they are waiting for their customized version of the firmware from Parrot to be updated, possibly around September. I've noticed that for the Parrot standalone devices these all list the TouchPro2 as compatible, so maybe this will be fixed.
They did mention that the firmware update may only be available through the dealers. I'll keep an eye on their website. My current firmware version is 320.
I've read some other threads somewhere that people with the vodafone rom describe having problems with bluetooth that are fixed after flashing with a different rom so may turn out to be that.
Infuriating though.
It seems to be the poor implementation of the new BT stack
I have had similar problems to those described above, my Peugeot van has inbuilt BT (uses Parrot in implementation) which just misbehaves unbelievably including hanging up the current call if a new one comes in on call waiting, phonebook access is rediculously slow and buggy.
My Jabra BT8010 disconnects at random
My Jawbone disconnects very occasionally
The stack is full of bugs and HTC must know it - I reported it on their support system and firstly fobbed off, then they said they would look into it, then the log was auto closed - very convenient way to show they are meeting targets in resolving issues.
It is poor, poor and more poor. The new WIDCOMM stack looks great but doesnt really work.
Very poor for a flagship handset and they should sort something out
I went to an Alpine delearship who suggested what ukdoc was trying to do.. basically firmware update! Are you using a different Alpine website? Because the one i go to says coming soon on the page where software updates are supposed to be. I culdnt find any connection with parrot and alpine on the parrot website!
Basically what im asking is how are you going to be getting the firmware update and could you direct me towards it!
Many thanks Mate
Elfangor
rlsxda said:
Cant get a working setup in my car kit. I have a Jaguar XF SC with bluetooth handsfree...The TP2 (TMO US) pairs and docks fine, but doesnt work well. Incoming calls dont seem to be recognized, and outbound calls will dial and communicate, but wont hangup. When I hang up from the TP2, the car kit still thinks its connected and mutes the radio until i forcebly disconnect from TP2...
arg...
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FYI, I just upgraded the radio to "4.46.25.24 - HTC" (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939) and the handsfree seems better...not sure it's perfect, but it does answer and hangup now...
Upgrade Alpine CDE-104BTi firmware from 320 to 360
I have just updated the firmware in my CDE-104BTi radio to version 360
http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/support/bluetooth-update-software.html
This has fixed the problem of not being able to recieve incomming calls on my HTC Touch Pro 2.
dsalter said:
I have just updated the firmware in my CDE-104BTi radio to version 360
http://www.alpine-electronics.co.uk/support/bluetooth-update-software.html
This has fixed the problem of not being able to recieve incomming calls on my HTC Touch Pro 2.
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I've just done likewise, and can also receive incoming calls at last!
Hi
I just tried updating the BT in my Alpine 104bti. The laptop connects to the headunit but the update tool don't find the connection, I've tried disabling the antivirus etc. But it don't see the connection but the connection is displayed on the laptop.
Any Ideas whats wrong ?
Cheers Gomez...
SOLVED
Tried again using a laptop with Xp on worked first time, Seems Windows 7 was causing issues.

Plantronics 510 Pairing

Long time lurker, first time poster.
I just upgraded to a Rhodium and am busy getting "moved in".
One thing that I can't get working is my bluetooth headset. I have a Plantronics voyager 510s that I used with my Mogul. I love the headset because it switches between my office phone and my cell seamlessly. (At least it has in the past...)
When trying to pair, I put the headset in discoverable mode, go to bluetooth settings and to add the device. It finds the head set ok, but when
I enter the pass key I am told that there is an error and that I should check to make sure that the headset is in discoverable mode. Grrr...
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer.
fixed.
Posted a little too quickly... Just sorted it out.
You have to power down the base station (the one that connects to the office phone) and then go through the pairing process.
I'm sure that this this won't come up too often because this is an older system, but I love it. It's awesome to have my office and cell on the same headset. (It's also great for having voice command read personal messages to me while in the office!)
Cheers

bluetooth problems?

Anyone else having bluetooth problems or is this operator error?
I can switch bluetooth on, make my handset visible, pair with other devices and receive files from other handsets, however when I try to send anything, I can't connect to paired devices and bluetooth hangs meaning I have to switch my handset off and on.
I was using bluetooh last night and all was ok
but unlike my last phone c902 the bluetooth is on a timer then turns off visibility
Working fine for me. Paired up my bluetooth headset and will still be working hours later even if I haven't interacted between them.
It's strange, devices show as paired but not connected and I can't make them connect.
Have been able to use BT for file transfer between my Desire and laptop and HD2. Also connected to my Plantronics BT headset. I think you need to have an appropriate BT driver for some devices like BT keyboards.
I too am having minor issues.
The wife's hands free kit (Parrot CK3000 evo) in the car supports voice dialling by sending contacts to it and then recording a tag which is associated with the contact. This way the kit can do the voice dialling for handsets that don't support it.
For some reason the Desire refuses to send contacts to the hands free kit claiming it doesn't support the correct bluetooth profiles. This obviously isn't the case as all the other phones we have tried work perfectly with the CK3000.
Only a minor issue, as in my car which has the CK3300 everything works fine (including syncing the phonebook to the car kit). It's more of a problem for the wife though, as she wants to upgrade to the Desire on Saturday when her contract is up for renewal but at the minute won't be able to voice dial from the car.
Dae.
Strange. I'll try connceting to my laptop later.
I too am having difficulty sending files over bluetooth. I can accept files fine, from any source, yet cannot send from my HTC Desire. First the notification says complete, but 0 files sent. Then going inside it shows it has failed. And then clicking it and retrying shows Unknown file. What's going on??
Tried sending to two mobile phones, and a Windows 7 laptop. Easily works the other way around. Also, sometimes I can't turn my bluetooth off properly, it just crashes the chip while turning off and can't turn it on or off until I reboot. Thought it might be Advanced Task Killer, but tried the same thing immediately after a reboot and still can't send files. Any ideas?
still no closer to solving this, I think it may be going back tomorrow.
I'm also having problems...
I have the Parrot CK3200 LS-COLOR and it connects to the phone ok, or vice versa and then it always falls over when trying to sync the contacts... It shows my facebook profile pic and then it fails.
If I dial a contact through the phone, or receive a call, it comes out fine through the speakers.
So I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the the desire handles contacts.
Sorry if there's been a resolution to this, I did search first
me to also having the same problems. spent 4 hours on google last night and still no closer.
Weird as it might sound, I had no issues connectiong to car stereo. But when I tried to pair it with friends mobile, SonyEricsson c902 - it crashed!
I was trying to send a picture file I have downloaded using bluetooth.
Also, can anyone tell me how to send a mp3 file I have downloaded off the internet to another mobile using bluetooth?
Thanks
Have you enabled FTP under Bluetooth advanced settings? I have no problem transfering files to and from PC or other mobile phone. Also make sure the device is dicroverable and paired.
I had a similar problem which I wrote to HTC about: I paired and connected the Desire with my bluetooth car head unit and it works fine for phone & audio, but it will not auto connect each time I get in the car and I have to go through the pairing process and enter a code each time. Voice dialling also doesn't work. My previous handset (Touch HD) connected automatically if the bluetooth was on so I don't think it's a problem with the head unit. Someone suggested it might be due to an old bluetooth protocol on the head unit (I'd like to avoid having to replace it if possible).
i managed to send a file to another htc desire today, last time i tried, i admit i didn't enable the ftp service, however I could not send via bluetooth to a nokia n96 but to be fair, my desire probably just didn't want anything to do with it . but on a serious note I cant seem to get it to send to my windows 7 x64 disto.
dreamdealer said:
i managed to send a file to another htc desire today, last time i tried, i admit i didn't enable the ftp service, however I could not send via bluetooth to a nokia n96 but to be fair, my desire probably just didn't want anything to do with it . but on a serious note I cant seem to get it to send to my windows 7 x64 disto.
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take that back .. apart from the N96 joke.. reason windows was not accepting was because avast anti virus was blocking it.
Pumpkin Lantern said:
I'm also having problems...
I have the Parrot CK3200 LS-COLOR and it connects to the phone ok, or vice versa and then it always falls over when trying to sync the contacts... It shows my facebook profile pic and then it fails.
If I dial a contact through the phone, or receive a call, it comes out fine through the speakers.
So I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the the desire handles contacts.
Sorry if there's been a resolution to this, I did search first
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I have the same problem, any help would be appreciated...
Sorted! (For Desire)
Sorted this problem out! See new thread
Pumpkin Lantern said:
Sorted this problem out! See new thread
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where's the new thread?
yurikg said:
where's the new thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668042

[Q] Sync call lists via bluetooth

Hello everyone
I am running the Virtuous ROM and I'm having a small problem. Whenever I try to connect to my Kenwood car stereo (Parrot bluetooth hands-free system, I think) I can make and receive calls just fine, only the call lists don't get synced.
I might be wrong, but doesn't one usually have to give the hands-free permission to do that first? Interestingly enough, the two devices are pairing without any kind of password whatsoever. I find this rather strange and an FTP server aside, I haven't found many options to adjust in the bluetooth settings.
Am I missing something obvious here?
Regards and thank you.
Anybody? Anything?

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