WM6.5 really slow on P3300 M650 / when ROM base on official version ? - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

Hi,
Going through the forum, I understand that P3300 / M650 could get quite slow after being upgrade to WM 6.5 (compare to WM6 Black & Blue 4.3 for example).
=> Is it still true with the last ROM released ?
Moreover, I just read that Microsoft has officially launched today the official WM 6.5 version.
=> Can we expect that soon new modified ROM will be released based on official WM 6.5 and then expect big improvement (more stable and quicker ?)
Last point, how fast and stable is GPS on WM6.5 (using Tom Tom 7), since I am experiencing problem with my actual ROM WM6 Black & Blue 4.3 (have to "soft-reset" my HTC each time before to launch Tom Tom 7, otherwise is losing satellites after a few seconds...).
Thks a lot, Fred

=> Is it still true with the last ROM released ?
The memory management with every new build that comes out seems to be better and better. So as compared to the first beta builds, the latest RTM builds are much zippier.
=> Can we expect that soon new modified ROM will be released based on official WM 6.5 and then expect big improvement (more stable and quicker ?)
There are many ROMS out there based on 'official' 6.5 builds. The phones that ship with 6.5 have builds from the COM2 branch which have the old interface, but we also have official builds of 6.5.1, which is a COM 4 branch, and which has GUI improvements.

....it was also my doubt: how is possible that there are already so many cooked wm6.5 roms, if microsoft released it officially only yesterday?
Which is the starting point for this roms?
Some wm6.5 rom for developers?
Finally, one question directly for randythered:
I read on your sign that you "participate" to the project wm6.5 base...what is it?
And also that you include in your roms
RtR Base Version1
RtR Base Version 2
RtR Manila v1.0
RtR WM 6.5 Base v2.0 (Build 23052)
Which are the differences and which you would suggest to a "newbie" that is still running the official HTC wm6 rom?
Thank you in advance!
PS: I've seen also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567864
that increase my confusion
Please help me!
Thanks!!

The builds that have been coming out have been leaked out by trusted sources. Check out Development & Hacking forum.
Project 6.5 Base is what I was working on, the ROM is ready so I have to change my sig now
All those are the ROMs that I have cooked. RtR Base V2 is WM 6.1 Clean ROM, with minimal add on apps.
RtR Manilla 1.0 is a M2D ROM, similar to the HTC Touch Viva.
RtR 6.5 Base is a clean 6.5 ROM, with the latest build of 6.5 and very few add on apps for faster ROM.
The ArteMEGA is the latest ROM i've cooked, it's got software from the recently launched HTC MEGA.
If you want to flash a new ROM you have to unlock your phone first by flashing USPL. Then you can flash any ROM of your choice!

So, just to summariza, I should install:
1) RtR Manilla 1.0 if my first wish is to have the Manila (diamond style) user interface
2) RtR 6.5 Base is I don't care about HTC propetary interface, and I want the last microsoft wm with its features...light and stable since is a base.
3) ArteMEGA if I want the last microsoft wm as well as the last HTC user interface and I don't care toom uch about speed...
IT is correct?
Thanks in advance!!

Yes, that is indeed correct.
I was just going to reply with a "Yep. " but xda thinks that's too short

dins said:
So, just to summariza, I should install:
2) RtR 6.5 Base ..
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not quite, cause my ultralight version is speedier
come on randythered...i am still waiting
greetz

Hahaha I have to admit 31 MB program memory is WOW!
Don't know if I'll be able to manage that, but I'll definitely give it a go

Thanks for your answers !
Just to know, does the release number "23060" for the ROM W 6.5 base is a good way to know if it's clean/last version ?
Do you have a W6.5 ROM with French language support to recommand (clean / stable / speedy !) ?
Rgds, Fred

All builds are the same, it's the cooks job to make it as speedy as possible. As far as I know, the 23060 and 23420 builds have some issues with the dialog buttons, but these have been adressed. Read the latest builds thread for more info.

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Different WM6.1 Rom releases

There are several releases out there of WM6.1 all of them claiming that they are NON BETA.
BUILD 19199.0.7.0
Pays ROM Lite & Full - WM6.1 WWE with Big Storage - 11-02-2008
RanDomIze WM6.1 BigSto. - 11-02-2008
BUILD 19199.1.0.0
CRCs PHK v12 Release 7 - 14-02-2008
Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom - 13-02-2008
BUILD 19521.1.1.0
Hermes ShadoW 2.0 CE - 05-02-2008
Hermes ShadoW 2.0 TE - 05-02-2008
BUILD 19716.1.1.0
Schap's WM6.1 Pro 4.40 Beta ROM - 31-01-2008
Why so different build number? Stability issues in the higher number builds?
And just for curiosity... does anyone know what the hell are those number after the build number, for example 19199.x.x.x ?
Win 6.1 random freeze on multiple ROMS
Hi
I have been trying to install a stable rom to my hermes but i couldn't find one yet ;
i have tried Pays ,Shadows (TE &CE) and some clean edition but still i get stuck in some cases ;
if i have HTC home plugin installed my device freezez quickly ; and also it freezes mostly after waking device.
I have read the forum and as my unprofessional conclusion it is somehow releated with WM 6.1 builds . Does anyone have experience with this ?
PS:i have upgraded my radio and tried to install official rom before ins. anything.
thanx
bartan
I am a ROM freak
I've tried some of the listed ROM's.
I was hooked on vp3G's 3.62 ROM for a while.
I was then hooked on TNT 2.0 --> TNT SE (Stable but still didn't have the cool look)
I then tried K's ROM (very nice looking but buggy) --> I currently have the K's FINAL Full (6mbpp) (very nice looking but stable)
This has been the most stable and responsive and over all satisfactory of ROM's i've tried so far.
As far as Radio i'm still trying to figure that out. I've switched between 1.40 to 1.54 and not i'm currently on 1.48 (i believe this was the radio used with vp3G's Rom)
Good luck w/ your search.
nice thread, i was kinda of thinking on the same lines i need to know what those numbers mean also.
They are all beta ROMS, install at your own risk. But stability wise some of them might be better than others. Good luck!
I mentioned a lot of times in my 3.00 rom thread that the main software is beta. But the development of my work is final.
ucramos said:
And just for curiosity... does anyone know what the hell are those number after the build number, for example 19199.x.x.x ?
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Under WM5 this used to be the AKU see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptation_kit_upgrade
I guess it's still the same for WM6 and WM6.1
I tried the latest Roms from Pay and Faria.
With both i had several hard-resets in the last days.
Which 6.1 Roms are you using?
i use N Pandora 9b1 (it is windows 6.1) and it is fast and stable , no hard resets
edward
I also have been using N Pandora 9b1 for a couple of weeks now and it's been very fast and stable. I have always used Pandora's ROM's and I think they are the best.
Activesync
I synchronized emails, task, contacts... with all WM6.1 Rom, successfully.
shadow te - very fast and stable with lots of apps installed
faria dr. putt... also very fast and stable
p.s. wm6.0 - best rom, K's (can't wait for 6.1 edition)
PaY87 said:
I mentioned a lot of times in my 3.00 rom thread that the main software is beta. But the development of my work is final.
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+1 for Pays . I'm not a power user (no data plan), so I want some basic functionality, only very useful apps included, and lots of stability/reliability. So far Pays ROM is my pick!
As Microsoft doesn't seem to want to mention that WM 6.1 even exists, maybe it is a pile of crap, and they can't get it stable enough for general release? There must be some reason why they didn't even talk about it at MWC 2008.
Could be that they haven't finished comparing all the ROMs on XDA-Devs to find which one they want to use!?
I have tried a few of these new ROMs. Randomize seemed good, but it ended up freezing at second boot screen and would not do anything. Also, no bluetooth explorer.. Now onto CRCs PHK v12 Release 6. All good so far - fast, stable, reliable. Easily connects to wifi, activesync, bluetooth everything. Have a few apps running ok. Not interested in HTC Home, so have Samsung clock instead. Have no complaints except that Solitaire is missing! Have compensated by installing a Gameboy emulator with heaps of games...
gnahc79 said:
+1 for Pays . I'm not a power user (no data plan), so I want some basic functionality, only very useful apps included, and lots of stability/reliability. So far Pays ROM is my pick!
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that's what I second. After using Schaps for several months...and before Jas' black varieties..
Well I"ve always Stuck with the Notion that if it Doesn't Say FINAL on the Rom Release update... It's Still in Beta and the Dev is Still Working the Lil bugs out and Tweaking Still also Schaps Rom says "Schap's WM6.1 Pro 4.40 Beta ROM - 31-01-2008" lol Pretty much self Explanatory lol But most of These 6.1 Roms Will be in Beta .... Look for the Final then you know it's Sweet
This is something I've been trying to figure out myself.
I see numbers like CE OS 5.2.1620 (build 19521.1.1.0) and CS OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0).
From what I can tell, CE OS 5.2.19199 Build 5.2.191999 is the RTM build, but I've yet to find anything that lists an official RTM version number from microsoft.

Which of the latest ROMS is closest to Schap's?

I've been meaning to upgrade to 6.1 (is it final yet?), and since schaps seems to only post here once a month now, I decided to look into other packages.
Is the 6.1 final already? Whose build comes closest to schap's 6.0?
There is no official build of 6.1 so no it's not final and the nearest ROM to Schaps rom is Schaps beta 6.1 (4.40 I think). You can't equate any of the later ones to Schaps as that's to broad a question. Of the latest ROMS I find the latest builds on 19209 and later to be the most stable etc. You may not get a consensus on that so best things is to try a few for yourself.
NONE...All the great cooks have unique WM6.1 roms. For me, the build 19209 by DVH is excellent! As mentioned above, U need to test with your own device, carrier, radio, apps, etc.....
Is Windows Mobile 6.1 Really exists for Touch Screen
Please answer me somebody. I have this eagerness of trying latest Rom builds but can anyone tell me is 6.1 really exists for touch screen PPC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390831
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390710

Is there a stable WM 6.5 ROM for the P3600 (NOT 3600i)?

Hi,
I have to flash the rom anyway (there are some strange things happening to my device, I fear it is hijacked). Since I am only an interested end user, not so much interested in testing - I would like to know whether I should use one of the latest WM6.5 or a stable WM6.1 rom. I already have a 6.1 rom, but a quite early one ([english ROM LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1 (2007-05-27)]) and thus not so reliable.
The first issue, however is, since I own a P3600 (400 MHz only) with ROM: 128 MB and RAM: 64 MB SDRA only, whether WM 6.5 would ever run stable on this device. Does anyone have a well founded opinion on this issue?
Anyway, what would be the most stable version?
From my side, no language preference, English would be as fine as German.
Thank you for any kind response!
stable ROM
Hi,
Chanvi 's one are good ROM(s) .. On my opinion, i prefer the 6.1 rom with manila 2D more usable than 6.5 with CHome ...
I'use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472178
"Update Feb-13-2009 : OS 21139.5.0.0 Manila 2D Iolite-Footprints .
This Rom is a hybrid WM 6.1/6.5"
Great ROM !
regards
[ROM] [WWE] Windows Phone 6.5 21815 by Savesaint [Online] [Updated 2009.06.18]
This one is more stable, then Chanvi's, from my opinion, i had much more bugs using different builds from chanvi's, even in different customisations.
Savesaint's has it's own bugs, and i can't customise it (because it's not a kitchen), but i prefer using that one.
But 3600's wm5 doesn't look like this one
the both sent ROM is 6.5 and as i know it always Memery hungry . does anubody knows whis ROM is the best in 6.1?
mmringo said:
the both sent ROM is 6.5 and as i know it always Memery hungry . does anubody knows whis ROM is the best in 6.1?
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I use from 3 month now and i have no problem with FInixNOver 3.7.2 light, before i use FInixNOver 3.7.2 manilla and it work very good.I was change it becose in manilla i have 12 mb free memory and igo stops sometimes.
this is another vote for the FInixNOver 3.7.2 light rom, for stability you cant get anything better than this ... i've tried a lot of roms and have allways gone back to this one.
I've tried all the 6.5 version roms and to be honest mate ... dont go there, they all have their issues.
give it a try to 6.5
I have been testing for a while now some 6.5 Roms. From my experience they have bugs, not all the programs can't work on 6.5, etc...
But I am confident since the savesaint 815 that we are going to have a very stable Rom soon. From my experience this was the best in 6.5 roms.
The few bugs that the rom have are solve by now.
Must wait developments... until Stable!
opanda said:
I have been testing for a while now some 6.5 Roms. From my experience they have bugs, not all the programs can't work on 6.5, etc...
But I am confident since the savesaint 815 that we are going to have a very stable Rom soon. From my experience this was the best in 6.5 roms.
The few bugs that the rom have are solve by now.
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Yeah
I agree, things got to get done. WM 6.5 it's not final version yet. Still in development from Microsoft... so got to wait a bit more so that we can really talk about a stable ROM.
Until there, with minor or sometimes a bit major bugs, the latest Builds are working better...
goalex said:
I use from 3 month now and i have no problem with FInixNOver 3.7.2 light, before i use FInixNOver 3.7.2 manilla and it work very good.I was change it becose in manilla i have 12 mb free memory and igo stops sometimes.
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hi,
where to get this light rom 3.7.2?
in the official thread, there is no links: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506501
thanks
This is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489029
thanks.
installed the rom and after playing with it for a while, i must say that this rom is very good. quick and stable. so i think i stick with this rom for a while.
wm 6.5 is cool, but it soo slow with newer releases, so that i cant use it anymore.
I am the same opinion, for now I'll stay with version 6.1 light version to not have problems with iGO.I find on the net windows mobile 5, original vesion HTC P 3600 and I thinking to install that to comarare wm5 and wm6.1. I bought SPV M700 from orange, 2 years ago.
I am the same opinion, for now I'll stay with version 6.1 light version to not have problems with iGO.I find on the net windows mobile 5, original vesion HTC P 3600 and I thinking to install that to comarare wm5 and wm6.1, I bought SPV M700 from orange.
first i was very happy with wm6.5 (first releases). But the more wm6.5 goes further, it's soo slow and the response time is very long (i use spb mobile shell).
I never had problems with tomtom, but with the last wm6.5 releases tomtom runs so slow
Greek rom
John-Wu said:
first i was very happy with wm6.5 (first releases). But the more wm6.5 goes further, it's soo slow and the response time is very long (i use spb mobile shell).
I never had problems with tomtom, but with the last wm6.5 releases tomtom runs so slow
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So is there a greek rom for htc 3600 wm6.5?
Guys i also vote for FInixNOver 3.7.2 manilla 2d rom. but i find a problem with it. the thing is i cannot find the fm radio program on the rom i searched every where, program files all the folders in it but couldnt find and i even tried to search and ask in the rom authors thread even but no reply yet. i would really like to have it. is there a cab somewhere i could use? thanks for help really appreciate this site.
xiyan2127 said:
Guys i also vote for FInixNOver 3.7.2 manilla 2d rom. but i find a problem with it. the thing is i cannot find the fm radio program on the rom i searched every where, program files all the folders in it but couldnt find and i even tried to search and ask in the rom authors thread even but no reply yet. i would really like to have it. is there a cab somewhere i could use? thanks for help really appreciate this site.
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what FM RADIO? Is no such thing in trinity.
goalex said:
what FM RADIO? Is no such thing in trinity.
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Only if you want internet radio.
You all welcome to try my rOms.
If you are looking for stability, I definitely recommend trying Tomme45i's latest ROM series:
[ROM+KITCHEN][WWE][26.08.09]WM 6.1.21054 + 6.5.23017 Classic
He has stripped away the fancier elements of 6.5 (so personal preference will play a part in deciding if it is the ROM for you) but it's incredibly stable, has excellent memory handling and suffers from no memory leaks.
It is probably the last of his Trinity ROMS, so well worth checking out.
Hope this helps,
Matt.

Fast and Stable WM6.1 for Hermes ?

Hi,
Can you recommend me a fast and stable ROM with WM 6.1?
I tried about 20 ROM's, each was unideal ...
I search Naked ROM, preferably 21014 or 21051 build...
PS: WM 6.5 is unusable - because of the size of ram ...
Thanks!
Try DarkVisions 5.0 FINAL. Fastest 6.5 ROM out there although it is very bare. If you want a fast Manila2D rom get the latest ROM from JoshKoss. Otherwise I really love Pays 6.1 ROM.
Hi,
DarkVisions 5.0 - have a lot of applications and is a bit slow .
Josh's V15 Manilla2D Build Light Plain - is fast ROM, but manilla eats lot of RAM .
And Pays ROM have a lot of applications and have customized icons, and have old Build.
Can anyone uncook Manilla from Josh's ROM ?
Or Can anyone cook ROM from WM6 official to WM 6.1 Build 21014/21051/21109 ?
Thanks !
I can recommend this one
TheProfz said:
I can recommend this one
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That ROM contains a Radio as well so doubly make sure you have HardSPL and flash from a MicroSD card before you try it.
Port from Kaiser is not ideal for me
I like Josh's ROM with Manilla Off It really fast ROM
if you really want 6.1 - faria
but my advise is dark vision 5.0 final it is wm6.5
i tried a wot, can say almoust every for hermes and this is the rom
I am searching the same.
I need a pure 6.1 Rom, without HTC Home, Manila, or other extra Software.
crc 13.5 is stable, quick, and plain.

[Q] What's the best ROM for the blackstone?

I've seen a lot of roms developed in this forum. I've now the Energy Rom NLD. But I can't overclock my Touch HD with this ROM. So I'm looking for another ROM.. one that's stable, fast and can do many things (especially making pictures and video's in good quality)...
I hope someone can advise me a better ROM than the Energy Rom. Cause I've already seen that and I'm ready for something new....
inb4 ****storm
One of notable ROM is Dutty v3.9 XT turbo.
The best ROM u can use is kwbr v 5.7 COM2 MANILA
Why?!
1. Because is with the Manila version and this make the whole interface super fast and stable.
2. Its 6.5 Based from COM2 witch is most stable bug free branch with super ram and battery consumation.
3. Because the ROM is tweaked and is even more faster and stable than a Stock ROM and this is Must have for EVERYDAY use if you want to enjoy your Blackstone.
4. You will never have any problem witch this ROM because just there is no SINGLE BUG
5. Our Blackstones are not made for 2.5 Sense or even 2.1 Sense because its to slow i play alot with HD2 and i know how the Sense must to look and response.. so maybe we never will catch the speed and the Sense to run on your Blackstones like is designed to be.. for this reason if you want to have a stable rom you just need TouchFLO Manila with core 6.5 this is the question WHY exactly this ROM.
Also if you prefer a 6.5.3 Based ROM there is exactly the same ROM v 5.7 COM3 Manila the diference is of the Branch Build i also test this ROM too and is super good but COM2 is the fastest and stable ONE till now no one beat it
Enjoy
I got this phone to since a little while.
At the moment I have W.M. 6.1 installed (standard Rom)
The kwbr v 5.7 COM2 MANILA looks good for as far as I know. But since this is my first W.M. advanced phone, I'm not sure if it's wise to do this 'upgrade'.
If something happens with my phone, what then? Because these ROM's are more like hacks or am I wrong?
Is the phone really getting faster for example? And do I need to install all kinds of extra if I install this kwbr v 5.7 COM2 MANILA ROM?
I read the sticky's etc about flashing ROM's, but since English isn't my main language and I'm not yet that technical in all these terms, I'm not sure if it's wise for me to install a different ROM.
(sorry for hijacking this thread, but since I'm also looking for the best ROM, I think it's appropiate to post this here)
Quolibet said:
I got this phone to since a little while.
At the moment I have W.M. 6.1 installed (standard Rom)
The kwbr v 5.7 COM2 MANILA looks good for as far as I know. But since this is my first W.M. advanced phone, I'm not sure if it's wise to do this 'upgrade'.
If something happens with my phone, what then? Because these ROM's are more like hacks or am I wrong?
Is the phone really getting faster for example? And do I need to install all kinds of extra if I install this kwbr v 5.7 COM2 MANILA ROM?
I read the sticky's etc about flashing ROM's, but since English isn't my main language and I'm not yet that technical in all these terms, I'm not sure if it's wise for me to install a different ROM.
(sorry for hijacking this thread, but since I'm also looking for the best ROM, I think it's appropiate to post this here)
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Ofcourse 1st now u have WM 6.1 and he have ugly Start Menu and appireance etc and if you install 6.5 will see the diference..
the Cooked ROM`s are not Hacks they are build from the latest avalible apps xip and etc packages.. for example when there is new Update for the Rhodium or HD2 Leo because they both use the same resolution and etc the cookers get the latest updates from there and make them for our Blackstone..
So when you are flashing a new ROM cooked you are going to have the latest updates published from Microsoft and in some cases HTC
I think that worth to Flash a new ROM and experiment and if you read evrything carefull you cannot damage your device..
The honest is that WM 6.1 maybe is the fastes one because of the poor graphic and appiriance but some of the cooked rom are faster than 6.5 because they are Cooked and because some unusual stuffs are removed from the ROM.. so when you flash a Cooked ROM you get only the things that are writen in the ROM thread..
So to understand me clear a Stock Official 6.5 ROM for example for HD2 and Cooke 6.5 ROM for HD2 the cooked one will BEAT in many aspects..
They are tweaked... optimized.. updatet and etc!
So the only reason why they are Cooked and we call not official is because the Cookers are just guys from here.. if they was working for Microsoft or HTC they will be releasing Official ROM`s
nice article man.. thank u..
hi!
first time here, and first time trying to do something different to my touch hd...
can someone direct me how to install w.m. 6.5 and EnergyzeROM?
step by step pls
tnx!!
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
@playerxl
Did you upgrade radio? My Blackstone was overclocked to 750MHz on stock ROM (1.14) but when I flashed Barebone 2.6 (1.59) it couldn't go over 691MHz untill radio upgrade. Now it's stable at 729MHz.
kwbr 5.7 Manila
Hi All
I can only agree with tsalta
kwbr 5.7 C2 Manila is the best ROM around for everyday use.
I have got my Blackstone from my uncle with this rom a year ago. Never had problems.
Last week I've experimented with some latest roms (Several Energy, and kwbrs with sense in them).
Sense is too slow/unresponsive on our machine. That was bugging me - since I know how fast it should be.
I'm coming back to No Sense ROM. Surely, I will miss the eye candy of Sense, and huge amount of quick links in Energy, but the performance and the battery life means more to me.

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