Adding words in XT9 not working - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I presume this is a generic thing, but if it turns out to be ROM-specific (I am running EnergyROM Photon with 6.5) then I can ask in the specific thread.
Unlike with my stock ROM, now I find that I can't add new words in XT9 words. Well, what happens is that it does ask me about adding the word and I can type the new word in, and press the tick, but the word doesn't get saved. The word won't be recognised next time, and if I go into the "My Words" bit it's totally empty.
Is there something I need to do to switch this on ? I tried searching but drew a blank.

*cough* bump *cough*

Same issue with the same ROM - I cannot add words.
Any help there ?

same problem here

I have the AT&T Tilt 2 with the stock ROM and have noticed this same problem. Unfortunately I don't know of a solution.

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"Suggesting words when entering text"

Hi,
I already mentioned this thing along with some other issues in another thread, but here it is again:
"Suggesting words when entering text" (Settings - Input) automatically enables after soft reset, while I have disabled this function just because I don't want the device to suggest words while I'm typing.
A few suggestions like disabling the option, putting the device in standby (screen off), wait for some time and then soft reset unfortunately didn't help.
It doesn't matter what Crossbow version I try, everytime this very option remains the problem.
I didn't hear anyone else about this. Can't believe I'm the only one.
Should I just wait till this is fixed in future releases or is there some smart registry tweak to keep this option from automatic enabling?
I have the same issue. I find it very annoying when something (or someone ) tries to gues what i'm typing. Aspecialy if i'm typing in dutch, and its guessing english words!
Also it forgets selected onscreen keyboard, after soft-reset it will always be standard keyboard.
Same here...
Same here, also with buttonlock, after softreset!
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Same here, also with buttonlock, after softreset!
Leo
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Hello,
Where you have see buttonlock on this rom? I had look and i dont find it.
Button lock
It's on the new posted PDAVIET rom.
Leo
hnmorais said:
Hello,
Where you have see buttonlock on this rom? I had look and i dont find it.
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this isn't so much of an issue for me. although i do not use it, it is not much of a distraction too.

WM6, two things I miss from WM5

Hi!
I successfully upgraded my P3300 NOR to WM6 WWE, but there is some new "features" in WM6 that I don't appreciate that much:
1) In the message application the left soft button is changed from new to delete. This I find rather irritating because the majority of times I want to compose a new message, not delete one (I almost never deletes messages). I know there has been some discussion concerning this issues over in the hermes forum.
2) When writing a new text message (or e-mail for that sake) and you start typing in the to field, WM5 displayed a list of matches from your contacts that you could pick from, and the field populated itself with the right information. This is not happening on my device after upgrading, is it a setting that controls this behavior or do we have to hack something to accomplish this?
Any suggestions on how to solve these issues?
Regards,
PK
I know what you mean with the Delete in messages, its a right pain!
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
hollinshead said:
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
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Hi!
Thanks for reply! In WM5 (at least on my device) the item you picket from the list replaced what you already had wrote, so there the functionality made sense. If this is not true on WM6 then it's absolutely wast, as you pointed out.
Regards,
PK
On my device the thing with the contacts work just like in WM5... It does not work if i your Phonepad, but with the normal keyboard, a smal rectangualr pops up with the Result matching my already typed letters, i then can pick a contact and the device replaces my input with the number...
And the Thing with "Delete" instead of "New" is really a senseless change, although im usign the WM5 New Menu in my Today screen, where i can assign a Softbutton with "New..." and then creat a SMS, email, Task or Note, whatever you desire, so i never really go through the messaging -> new menu...

question about keyboard layout

i have a cingular 8525 and i installed tnt rom but now the special characters of the hardware keybord are missplased. for example ! should be under letter w but when i press the dot and after the letter w i get @ and some other characters are missplased. does anyone have a solution? i installed something called, 8525 keyboard fix but nothing happend.. thank you
I'm going to answer your Q kinda fast, just don't tell anyone, guys around here don't like answering questions that can be easily found using google.
To the point, You can edit your registry and change it. But the easiest way is installing Schaps Advanced Config. and changing your Keybd. Layout to Cingular/AT&T (or something like that, it's the last option in the list). Current V. of Advanced Config. can be found under the Development subforum.
Good Luck.
thank you very much!

Word Suggestion Issue

I don't have the Touch Pro 2 yet but I am trying to help someone out to fix his issue.
Basically his problem is the suggested word feature doesn't work as well as the Original Touch Pro.
Here is his issue. If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.
The correct word "também" is correctly suggested if I type "tamb". So far, so good (although on Touch Pro I could type "tambem" and he would suggest "também" also). The problem is with small words like "olá", "não", "é", "há", "ás", etc...
The T9 only starts suggesting words after the third letter.
Does anyone know how to make the T9 start suggesting after the first typed letter? It would make things better, but it would not solve the problem. There are many words that are single lettered: "é", "à", "á", etc..
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Maybe a registry setting? I don't have the TP2 so I am not able to browse the registry and find it but I figured you guys would be the best help for this issue. Thanks in advance.
Try this...
Dont know if its what you are after, but might be
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534126
hope this helps
I think most t9 starts after the third word because just by typing one letter, there are thousands of words that it can be. So when more letters are typed, it narrows down the selection in the dictionary. The only words that might show up quicker is if the TP2 actually stores newly added words into the dictionary.
dfootball56 said:
I don't have the Touch Pro 2 yet but I am trying to help someone out to fix his issue.
Basically his problem is the suggested word feature doesn't work as well as the Original Touch Pro.
Here is his issue. If anybody could help I would greatly appreciate it.
Maybe a registry setting? I don't have the TP2 so I am not able to browse the registry and find it but I figured you guys would be the best help for this issue. Thanks in advance.
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Hi. I'm the one who wrote the quoted message
Thanks dfootball56!
Let me just add some more info: what madjsp wrote is indeed true. However, on Touch Pro, this never happened... If I typed "esta", the XT9 on Touch Pro would suggest "está", "esta", "estámos", etc... On TP2, "está" only is suggested if I type "est".
This is, if I type the full accented word (without the accent) it does not suggests the correctly accented word...
Hope I'm not being too much confusing...
Thanks for any help!
you've been clear enough! same problem here, very very annoying since in italian accented letters are very common too.. no solutions / hacks / tricks??
that would be great! thaks a lot!
Hi. I'm the one who wrote the quoted message
Thanks dfootball56!
Let me just add some more info: what madjsp wrote is indeed true. However, on Touch Pro, this never happened... If I typed "esta", the XT9 on Touch Pro would suggest "está", "esta", "estámos", etc... On TP2, "está" only is suggested if I type "est".
This is, if I type the full accented word (without the accent) it does not suggests the correctly accented word...
Hope I'm not being too much confusing...
Thanks for any help!
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Hey man. Figured these guys on here were the best resource of new hacks and tweaks. I'm sure someone will get bored and try to figure something out...haha If I had one now I would search the registry for you but it hasn't came out in the U.S yet
Update: I mailed HTC and they understood and acknowledged my problem. Just hope it was worth the "effort"...
I'm quoting all the mails:
Me: (...) already described the problem
HTC:"Hi Nuno,
The T9 dictionary does not include words with special characters. You can add these words manually, and they will be remembered next time you need them. On the onscreen keyboards, tapping and holding on the letter assosciated with the special character will display all the extra characters for that letter, and you can drag and select them.
Best REgads"
Me: "Hi. Thanks for the fast reply. I'm afraid I disagree with you: the T9 does include words with special characters. I've never added words like "está", "também", "já", and they are there. The problem is that even if I add the word "olá" to the diccionary (not needed because it is already there), the T9 will not suggest it because the suggestions only start after the third letter. I type "ola" and it does not suggests me "olá". However, the T9 of the 'old' Touch Pro that I've got does this correctly: I type "estariamos" -the full word - and it suggests me "estaríamos". On the Touch Pro 2, I would have to type "estar" so it could suggest me "estaríamos". Are understanding what the problem is? I hope I'm not being too confuse. Thanks."
HTC:"Hi Nuno,
I understand the issue now, I do not think I can resolve this for you now, I have forwarded details to our developers for investigation and possible resolution. Please monitor our support pages for fixes and updates in teh future, and I will be back in contact once I have further news for you.
Best Regards"
I then closed the "support case". I think there's nothing much I can do...
Nuno, did you recieve any reply from their side?
great job nuno, so basically we have to wait and pray for them to fix it in a rom update or hotfix... wtf
fadimck said:
Nuno, did you recieve any reply from their side?
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Yes, I did... you can see what they told me on my previous post.
Unfortunately we just have to wait for a hotfix...
at least they said they will do this hotfix.. it's a good start, now let's hope it doesn'take ages!
Today I found that the T9 word suggestion work's perfectly if I write the messages in portrait mode (without hard keyboard out) and with the "telephone numeric keys" selected...
This is indeed a bug somewhere on the T9 definitions...
Hi.
I worked out a solution!! ;D ;D ;D
I borrowed a Portuguese Touch Pro, copied the following files from \windows
eT9.HQD.kdb
eT9.SQR.Accented.kdb
et9.sqr.portuguese.kdb
eT9ime.dll
KbdNopAll.dll
and then placed them on the \windows folder of the Touch Pro 2
Reboot and DONE!
Good "old" XT9 with the correctly suggested words!!
I've placed the files here, in case someone needs it:
http://www.nunosilva.com.pt/nuno/outras/T9TouchPro.rar
Mind that this is for the Portuguese TP2; I don't know if there are differences from TP2 from other countries.
Thank you all for your help
Well... not that solved after all...
I found out that the Touch Pro has specific keys for these marks:
/ ? + = - _
Meaning: on the Touch Pro 2, I can't write them with the hard keyboard
I also found out that it is only necessary to replace the eT9ime.dll file; all the other are pointless as far as I figured out.
So, to put it back in it's original form, just re-replace the eT9ime.dll file.
Here is the link, in case someone forgot to backup the files before replace them with the files from the Touch Pro:
http://www.nunosilva.com.pt/nuno/outras/T9TouchPro2.rar
Because it is an .dll file I don't really know if it is editable in any way... is someone knows how to do it, please do tell me..
Thanks.

for gods sake, why no one is helping me-how can I tweak the GPS-please someone help

Hey Guys
I am using the following
Radio: 4.49
Rom: WWE 6.5
Operator: T Mobile
I have advanced config, and I saw a thread about tweaking the gps, please can someone explain to me in detail how to do that. Under GPS in advanced config it was mentioned to set log file to No logging , but everytime i chose no logging when i restart the device it goes back to \windows\GPSlogFile.txt
it was also mentioned to delete the old and current log file how can I do that.
Are those tweaks applicable to win mobile 6.5
Look for the Cabs,Tips,Tweaks etc thread stickied at the top of this section
I really feel annoyed by when people tell me look at this or that thread when from my post you can tell that I already did that. I tried to follow the instruction on the tweaks, cabs thread, but got stuck, so please why in this forum specifically every time I ask a question I get these insulting replies.
I think I will abandon my dam HTC TOUCH pro2 and go back to HTC TOUCH HD forum since at least there I get answers. I am really pissed now.
For gods sake respect that we are at least trying to learn, and stop being rude to us, by showing us that we are stupid
I don't know what to tell you. When i got it it took a lot to get a lock so i updated the radio from the official site, installed SeaSGEE (do a search), downloaded the content, used the gps registry tweak ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/GPS Tweaks ) and the lock is under 2 minutes (although i believe the lock time is horrible compared with the samsung omnia which was 15 seconds).
Hope it helps.
hykhleif said:
I really feel annoyed by when people tell me look at this or that thread when from my post you can tell that I already did that. I tried to follow the instruction on the tweaks, cabs thread, but got stuck, so please why in this forum specifically every time I ask a question I get these insulting replies.
I think I will abandon my dam HTC TOUCH pro2 and go back to HTC TOUCH HD forum since at least there I get answers. I am really pissed now.
For gods sake respect that we are at least trying to learn, and stop being rude to us, by showing us that we are stupid
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yeah no kidding dude nobuddy has bothered to answer my question about if any custom roms have transcriber and letter recognizer enabled. come on guys lets all be helpful you were all newbies at one time we do our part and SEARCH!! so do your part and HELP!!
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yeah no kidding dude nobuddy has bothered to answer my question about if any custom roms have transcriber and letter recognizer enabled. come on guys lets all be helpful you were all newbies at one time we do our part and SEARCH!! so do your part and HELP!!
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As far as I can tell .. transcriber and letter recognizer do not come with 6.5 anymore they took it out I Loved it .. but I guess noone used it. )
I have tried installing it .. on 6.5 with NO LUCK ;( If you find a way message me too !
Just found this : http://pocketnow.com/thought/goodbye-transcriber
Handwriting recognition has always been a feature of Windows Mobile that went unrivaled by most other smartphone operating systems. Admittedly, most people either didn't use the feature or didn't know that it existed. About a year ago, we did a tutorial on how to use the features of Transcriber to get fantastic handwriting recognition.
The upcoming HTC HD2 has a capacitive screen, meaning that traditional styli cannot be used with the device. Because of this, HTC has stripped out the Transcriber option, as seen below from the HD2 ROM. Also of note is that there is now only one keyboard option, which is HTC's Touch keyboard. Gone is the small stylus keyboard that we've come to know for many generations of Windows Mobile.
With Transcriber gone, will you miss it?
You don't need to take it personal and get upset.
You should at least consider that the issues you're asking about are not common....so the number of people who know or care about the answer is small. If they were common issues then you'd find many other posts stating the same problem. Do you?
If you've followed the suggestions and the suggestions don't work for you, then what more can anyone say? How much time are people supposed to devote to troubleshooting a problem that only you have?
If you scan down the list of threads, those threads that have 0 responses are either questions that are odd/unique/unknown or have been answered so often that there's a sticky with the answer at the top of the forum...which indicates that the poster isn't even trying to help themselves.
BTW: If I had the answer to your technical issues I'd offer it, but I don't.
WarlockW said:
As far as I can tell .. transcriber and letter recognizer do not come with 6.5 anymore they took it out I Loved it .. but I guess noone used it. )
I have tried installing it .. on 6.5 with NO LUCK ;( If you find a way message me too !
Just found this : http://pocketnow.com/thought/goodbye-transcriber
Handwriting recognition has always been a feature of Windows Mobile that went unrivaled by most other smartphone operating systems. Admittedly, most people either didn't use the feature or didn't know that it existed. About a year ago, we did a tutorial on how to use the features of Transcriber to get fantastic handwriting recognition.
The upcoming HTC HD2 has a capacitive screen, meaning that traditional styli cannot be used with the device. Because of this, HTC has stripped out the Transcriber option, as seen below from the HD2 ROM. Also of note is that there is now only one keyboard option, which is HTC's Touch keyboard. Gone is the small stylus keyboard that we've come to know for many generations of Windows Mobile.
With Transcriber gone, will you miss it?
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If I read the site you linked to correctly, L3V5Y says the transcriber is a registry setting, but is still in the OS. Anyone know what registry setting would enable it?
I just checked my Tilt2 and it still has transcriber. If you click on the Keyboard icon, it brings up the options. Go to other input methods, and transcriber is one of them. I don't know of any custom roms that have the transcriber, but my Tilt2 rom has it. I haven't flashed anything to my Tilt2 yet, but will be doing so soon. I have flashed a lot of roms to my old Tilt and Fuze, but am really looking to get a stock ATT rom with the BS bloat taken out. I have yet to look at Da_g's, but will be doing so shortly.
And, by the way, I've been a member for about three years, but my post count is low because I do search for things. when I have asked a question, I typically have gotten great responses. The "go search" people are usually smug people with no knowledge, but have seen others write it, so they do too.
My GPS wakes up in <10s in clear skies when it's been on somewhat recently, perhaps 1 minute if it's got stale data.
If your GPS takes forever to warm up, there's something wrong with it. As for the registry entries, you're probably just doing it wrong. Besides, there's zero need for it anyway.
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If I read the site you linked to correctly, L3V5Y says the transcriber is a registry setting, but is still in the OS. Anyone know what registry setting would enable it?
I just checked my Tilt2 and it still has transcriber. If you click on the Keyboard icon, it brings up the options. Go to other input methods, and transcriber is one of them.
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What ver of Mobile you have 6.1 ??
In Mobile 6.5 - If I goto Keyboard icon, it brings up the options. I have NO "other input methods "
sad to say .. But true
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Ok .. I am a dumbass I installed Transcriber .. and true it does not give you the option of choosing it from the optons menu ..
However if you find transcriber.exe in the windows dir .. you can run it and it does work !
So I made a link and added it to the startup dir in windows and it works just fine now
Just a warning .. if you change to the full or compact qwerty it closes transcriber and you will have to restart it to make it work again :/
WarlockW said:
What ver of Mobile you have 6.1 ??
In Mobile 6.5 - If I goto Keyboard icon, it brings up the options. I have NO "other input methods "
Said to say .. But true
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My Tilt 2 (6.5) offers Transcriber, Keyboard, Letter Recognizer, and Block Recognizer. Sorry your ROM is crippled.
WarlockW said:
What ver of Mobile you have 6.1 ??
In Mobile 6.5 - If I goto Keyboard icon, it brings up the options. I have NO "other input methods "
Said to say .. But true
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I have a tilt2 and both transcriber and letter recognizer (my favorite) are enabled and the tilt 2 does use wm 6.5. i went back to the stock rom after flashing the energy rom because it didn't have it, i just prefer features over speed. i vow not to flash another rom unless it has full handwriting recognition, i for one use it a lot more than the keyboard.
Try Rhodium setting tools by tom cordon
Questions and Answers
hykhleif said:
I really feel annoyed by when people tell me look at this or that thread when from my post you can tell that I already did that. I tried to follow the instruction on the tweaks, cabs thread, but got stuck, so please why in this forum specifically every time I ask a question I get these insulting replies.
I think I will abandon my dam HTC TOUCH pro2 and go back to HTC TOUCH HD forum since at least there I get answers. I am really pissed now.
For gods sake respect that we are at least trying to learn, and stop being rude to us, by showing us that we are stupid
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Hi hykhleif
I think that you have misunderstood the ethos of this forum. This is a developers forum not a users forum. There is a "Questons and Answers" section in the General section of the forum which you'll see at the top of the main forum page. You may get more detailed help by posting questions there.
I think that if you want "user" advice generally this is potentially not the best place to look but a forum on the HTC website. I think that www.expansys.com has some good user forums as well.
I hope you get your device working to your satisfaction.
Best wishes
andrew-in-woking
Mods,
Not that I am a religious freak or anything like that, not that I object to those who choose to believe in that sort of stuff...
For the record I would like to convey my objection to the tone err attitude err approach err demanding nature of the comments err are we here on this planet to serve this person err is he a reincarnated faro? I move that this thread be removed and our faro friend be given some lessons/guidance on how to communicate in a none aggressive (or pigheaded) way...
We all get frustrated... we all have people in our lives that represent a challenge... our girlfriends/boyfriends all get headaches from time to time... so lets keep a lid on the aggressive nature particularly in this our very fine forum...
PATIENTS is a VIRTUE.
J
simply i apologize to my tone, i was not aggressive but frustrated.
hykhleif said:
simply i apologize to my tone, i was not aggressive but frustrated.
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Thank you.
I hope you resolve GPS issue. Sorry I cannot help you.
Regards,
J

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