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I've owned a couple of these HTC phones, formerly a Cingular/Siemens SX66, and also a small one by Audiovox...can't remember model but WM based, now got a Tmobile Dash.
All based on Windows Mobile, and my question is: HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
In the Forums I read nothing but problems, my experience's not good either. My first SX66 was defective, the replace froze way too often/needed reset (WM froze, CONNECTIVITY was POOR as it was on the Audiovox (I threw it against the wall and smashed to pieces) and STILL IS on the Dash..maybe not as BAD
I want to install a new language support on the Dash....doesn't seem to be possible
I "upgraded" to WM6 but I think I actually lost rather than gained in terms of versatility features and feel...
I'm thinkin of gettin a TyTn....but is it worth the aggravations and headaches, since I'm going to need to unlock and most likely extra language support for text messaging.....Is it possible to Add???
INPUT/OPINIONS WELCOME
THANKS
Sounds like you'd be happier with a iPhone...
Probably I'd be happier....
with an iPhone...if it was a 3rd Gen but still lags behind
BTW in the list I forgot to include the Treo 750....another flop...I've had it for some time and it's a waste
Just out of curiousity, what are you expecting from your phone? So far the dash has handled a lot of what I threw at it.
And yes, HTC phones work...at least as well as WM6 lets them.
I would recommend a title change for this thread. The question "do they really work" is a really stupid one.
ReverseImage said:
I've owned a couple of these HTC phones, formerly a Cingular/Siemens SX66, and also a small one by Audiovox...can't remember model but WM based, now got a Tmobile Dash.
All based on Windows Mobile, and my question is: HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
In the Forums I read nothing but problems, my experience's not good either. My first SX66 was defective, the replace froze way too often/needed reset (WM froze, CONNECTIVITY was POOR as it was on the Audiovox (I threw it against the wall and smashed to pieces) and STILL IS on the Dash..maybe not as BAD
I want to install a new language support on the Dash....doesn't seem to be possible
I "upgraded" to WM6 but I think I actually lost rather than gained in terms of versatility features and feel...
I'm thinkin of gettin a TyTn....but is it worth the aggravations and headaches, since I'm going to need to unlock and most likely extra language support for text messaging.....Is it possible to Add???
INPUT/OPINIONS WELCOME
THANKS
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Of course you're only going to hear about problems on forums, that's what they're there for: to find answers to your problems. People don't normally spend time praising something they own, there's no need for it.
As far as HTC goes, I have been pretty happy with my Dash. After getting all the nuisances tweaked, I can't picture the phone being much better.
PS - **** the iPhone. Worst device I have ever used.
PPS - I agree with changing the title of this thread. It is silly.
perhaps this is more the OP's speed?
I wouldn't get a Tytn.
I was so happy changing from a tytn to the Excalibur. There's still problems with the stability of WM professional vs WM standard.
Standard seems more robust and usable as a phone.
Also 3G on the tytn although is nice drains the battery.
I used to change phones every six months. The tytn only lasted 3 months before I was fedup with it. The excalibur is a phone which might actually be used for the full 2 year contract.
Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
Best Wishes
ReverseImage said:
HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
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Nope.
This is why there is a dedicated website, forum, community, etc revolving around them.
I'm a huge fan of the Elmo walkie talkie myself.
-Mc
Choose something non-HTC for yourself, this forum will thank you
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Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
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In Short: Yes they do work
But I have had a HTC Blue Angel (SX66), Faraday (2125), Tornado (sp5m), Wizard (8125), Tytn (8525), Excalibur (dash), Treo 750, Star Trek (8500), Vox (s710), Cavalier (c730). All phone have some issues, but I can tell you seriously they work better than any other phone on the market. And you shouldnt be worried that people complain about them you should be excited that these phones give you the freedom to log onto a website like this in order to solve problems instead of just complain.
I had my cavalier for a month before all of a sudden I just upgraded it with full youtube integration because of this website.
Be happy you have a phone that gives you the ultimate ability to do everything.
Plus HTC knows how to make a phone teh sexy
ReverseImage said:
Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
Best Wishes
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If your computer freezes or gets blue screens it's 90% of the time your hardware that fails. And if you are so unhappy about windows xp then I suggest you use linux..see what you can make of that.
As far as i'm consurned the Windows mobile phones are quite customizeable as long as you have some sense of what you are doing.
IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
Hi to all you programmers, would it be possible for you to build a rom for the Artemis that will make it look and feel like an Iphone, i think it would be of benefit for the Artemis as it would use the touch screen system more, i have tried many diff, roms and would like to try an Iphone rom for my phone i would go out and by the Iphone but dont have that sought of money. any way i hope someone will let me know if it is possible to build an iphone for the artemis.
Sounds like combining a car and a motorbike and this is not a trike forum. Of course it's possible but you probably won't find any good chef right now that wants to do that. I suppose the best would be to cook it yourself.
apple are an even more closed software company then ms are
and the hardware is not the same
best you can hope for are the iphone skins i'd say
disgusting request, honestly. if you wanted an iphone, then sell your artemis and get the iphone. you don't list where you are, but if you're in the states, a used artemis isn't worth much less than a new unlocked iphone
You could try this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349861 I haven't myself, sounds like folks say it's a bit slow on some devices but it looks promising for future versions. Not seen an Iphone in the flesh, but I have seen wm6 which without cooking has the most disappointing power to usability ratio, Iphone at least woke us all up a bit.
Problem too, is that "IPhone" is a registred trademark of Apple, the creator of Iphone like for our PDA, in Thailand, was requested to stop anything about "IPhone" creation. Naturally that was too late and there went source code many time downloaded fron his website. At this time there are many free application that look like "IPhone" and one that you can buy on the net is iLaunch.
Has anyone made a ROM using the Samsung Ominia User Interface? i saw it on youtube the other day and it looks cool i was just wondering if anyone can make it.
I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.
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I could. The Omnia interface is nice, but its not all that better than the M2D imo.
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ofcoursee NOTHIN is better then ur ROM (1.27 BELL) that i m running ryte now NO doubt about that.
but its nice to have different things you know to see little change in our HTC TOUCH thats what i think. you dont have to do it just for me. beacause i do understand it takes countless amount of hours and hard work.
soo if more people agree and if they want it too, then ill kindly request you too make it.
I KNOW tht if ur gonna make it then it will be the BEST thing out there!!
thanxx alott bro
im sorry but that would be wicked !!!!!! the FEWedgets plugin was cool for a minute but boring, to limited.. and not tha best quality.. I aswell wouldn't ask for tha amount of work to be put in.. but 4real that would be pretty sick! imo
yea ehh thats what i thought
no doubt it takes lots of hard work but if we have more people wanting this
then we can kindly request NFSFAN to make one for us.
so can everyone who wants this ROM just post a reply saying "yea this would be nice or yes u want want this ROM.
yea this would be nice!
Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug
Detroit_Doug said:
Hey all,
One of the guys I work with actually has one of these phones and I played around with it for a couple hours the other day, and IMHO the interface kinda sucks LOL
While the wow and cool factor lasted maybe 10 minutes or so the actual usability and functionality of the phone with added configs and settings didnt really do alot to the form and feel of the phone compared to anything custom on a WinMO device, Android (referring to the Vogue port of Android) or even the IPhone
Really, the adding and removal of the widgets are nice, but its through 5 hoops to get to any real apps or make any useful activity of the phone plus with the smallish screen on a vogue device the widgets would dominate the available area and with like the Omnia start apps without the intention of wanting them opened when trying to open something else.
Again, not against it, but seriously I dont see anything all that useful other than a few minutes of wowability until the omnia gui is unchecked and tf2d or standard WinMO UI would be re-enabled by the user - of course to each their own and if the desire is there enough someone will build it although I would personally love to see more progress into the area of WinMO 6.5 or 7 than the Omnias interface or even more stability and speed being developed and worked on for the existing 6.1 WinMO/Custom ROM that currently exist
Detroit Doug
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I'm with him ^^^. The gui doesn't really appeal to me, but like I said, depending on the factor of people wanting this, I may consider making a ROM using it. When a reliable and real build of WM6.5 comes out, I will port it to the Vogue.
lol yea I kinda agree, still would be cool, just to say tho.. any possibilty geting a omina style on screen mouse cursor ? its cool in skyfire, but if possible to port that to be able to use thru out menues etc on a htc would be sick!
just a thought
I would also like this. It reminds me of the Android, with the removable widgets. It's nice to have a change every once in awhile!
Not gonna lie I would like to see this a lot
I would like it I'm actually thinking of getting one when my phone is up for renewal or a blackberry storm....just wish there was something new and exciting coming out just seem like we have maxed out the vogue. And android seems like a pain in the ass to get going from reading the thread to many damn steps and buttons that do the opposite of what they were intended to do?!??!
+1 on the boring UI. It would be cool, but the avail widgets are quite useless and can't be used with other plugins. One thing I found odd was that you can't lock the widgets into place, so everytime you click, they move.
I just think the mouse feature would be really cool to have.
Mouse
Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.
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Hey, those of you wanting the mouse feature, you might wanna try a program called VirtuaMouse One-Hand. I know it's probably not the exact same but it's somewhat the same concept.
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Alright thanks!
jus incase here tha link
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...d-device-operation-on-windows-mobile-devices/
and 4real thanks for tha info.. just what i wanted, it is a sick app 4real.... not tha best have afew issues wit it but does tha job....
< just realized its a 30 day trial? thats sucks! i hate paying for apps lol >
< actually it cut me off with in 24hours.. said i used 200 clicks with outa stylus and wanted $20.. > *WACK*
No longer being developed.
looks promising , maybe a little to much like the iphone but each to their own
but im sure il give it a go
nice work !!
Just one word: WOW!!!
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Just one word: WOW!!!
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WOOWW... Amazing project!
Thanks to the TS.
I will give it a try when it's ready.
if you really want that sort of ui u will get in few mins just go to wad and create it one its as simple as creating a silly html webpage and i am not that perfect in those things but i came to know when i used concept theme very recent.
why dont people start better ui rather den copying a simmillar one even the placement of icons...
so pity.
sorry if i offend or hurt anyone but thats damn truth anything mere ui is appreciated den a silly copy
Hm
it looks good and it appears to go further than any other UI with the exception on Touch Flo 3D. I am impressed with what you have even if you appear to have taken the photographs with a pinhole camera from the early 20th century!
What I feel is needed in such a project is a set of icons that have a similar theme running throughout, that are hi-res and professional looking.
Get a good graphic design artist onboard from the outset. There are plenty here.
Good luck and I wish you well.
H
u guys seriously like the iPhone UI look? i hate it. it reminds me of my desktop. icons everywhere.
GooGooGOgoOGo ! ~
Guys,
Are you working on something similar to this?
Cheers.
What about animations? Can we expect such stuff as sliding between screens/ rotating animation or anything?
I do like the effort of making a new UI but if I wanted an iPhone I would have bought one.. This is just to much of a copy for me..
Good job, but I never understand why there is so much enthusiasm to do with a Windows Mobile device an iPhone ! It's just my opinion,but in this case I prefer to buy an iPhone ...
it's very wonderful work man
not bad
It's really great.
is it consume much memory while this ui is loaded ? as compare with HD TFLO 3D ?
Let´s See how it works!Looks very good!
Looks interesting~ Wish could see new release very soon.
I am more interested in what this gives over things such as ifonz or iphonetoday, both things which emulate the same sort of UI design. As someone posted earlier, does it come with animated transitions or is it gearedtowards being fast/
Either way, im interested to see how this turns out.
I have to admit though, it doesnt seem entirely logical to make an expensive phone look like a not so expensive, widely used phone...
I was using an iPhone 3G before my current HD and I did not like the screen full of icon look. I prefer the TF3D where I can view my calendar at the home screen right away so I'll probably give this a miss. But what I DO like about the iPhone is that everything is designed for touch use unlike WM where beyond the UI, it's still the touch-unfriendly interface where I have to use a stylus. If there is a UI that allows for that in WM, then it's perfect for me!
It´s amazing the iphone effect on people. The apple marketing guys are very efficient in creating a worldwide desire for that fruit.
You can see a lot of iphone type interfaces for every platform. I´ve recently found one for symbiam.
I would like to see a touchflo for iphone, for instance........
Hey there,
I think about getting a TP2.
Would you recommend it? What about the phone qualitiy and the touchscreen (I don't expect it to be like the iPhone, but I do not want to use the stylus all the time - I'm very surprised of the TD 2! Is it compareable)?
I'd like to have a fast phone I do not need to reboot every second.
Is even WinMo good enough nowadays?
Maybe Android is better for the future since HTC develops more Android-Phones by now? Or could it even be possible to put Android onto the TP2?
There are a lot of threads like htis out there. In short, The screen is better than the diamond. Seems a bit more sensitive but probably becausei t's igger. you won't need the stylus a lot. Questions like: is WM good enough or is it better to go android aren't to be awnsered quickly. It depends on you personal needs. I would search the forum a bit because there is a lot of info en oppinion about these subjects
Welcome to the XDA forums!
A word of advice - search before starting new threads, or you'll get flamed. There are a number of other threads already here about the merits of the Touch pro2 & most of your questions could be answered by looking around the existing threads.
I'd recommend reading & watching reviews and reading the forums - you'll get all the info you need from them, and then if it seems good you could even try a TP2 out at a local shop.
I think everyone I've heard from would fully recommend the TP2, and I would too - I don't think you'd be disappointed.
As everyone says this has been asked many times, I myself am guilty of it too.
I will try to put it in as short paragraph as possible:
Build quality is good if you put in perspective exactly what it is and what it can do for you
Screen is excellent albeit finger print prone, but what do you expect
Touch screen - no problems whatsoever
Keyboard - Have not used it yet, the touch screen is good enough for me! I use it ALOT
Win Mobile - Masked very well by TouchFlo
Features - Where do you want me to start? it does everything!
Battery - Incredibly good considering what you can with the phone (2 days so far since a 12 hour charge with moderate use - internet/emails/facebook/twitter/sms/one phone call)
My advice - go and see both the TP2 & D2 in a store, the Diamond 2 is a very good phone and if you dont need the keyboard and a more powerful battery (regardless of what magic HTC did with the D2 battery, its still under-powered) then I would seriously consider the D2 aswell.
if you really need physical keyboard, then go for TP2...
I myself used to have blue angel for about 5 years, and maybe only used the physical keyboard once or twice.. hahha... its useless for me... got tired of carrying bulky phone..
now, I am using D2 and didnt regret it at all... I love the size, its small enuf as a phone, but the screen is big enuf to do stuff... and dont forget about the price too, its a lot cheaper than TP2, with the same specs
Bueggi said:
Hey there,
I think about getting a TP2.
Would you recommend it? What about the phone qualitiy and the touchscreen (I don't expect it to be like the iPhone, but I do not want to use the stylus all the time - I'm very surprised of the TD 2! Is it compareable)?
I'd like to have a fast phone I do not need to reboot every second.
Is even WinMo good enough nowadays?
Maybe Android is better for the future since HTC develops more Android-Phones by now? Or could it even be possible to put Android onto the TP2?
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funny............ don't worry mate its a no brainer! superadvan gave it to you in a nutshell and was spot on! td2 though similarly spec'd is rather dull and under performs IMO! very rushed update to the highly populae td1 and HTC got it wrong again. tp2 on the other hand is a very refined device and everything works as it should even touchflo, yes i said touchflo. winmo is very well hidden behind manila mask but alas some of the old drawbacks remain. however once hardspl is released for this device there will be many custom roms available with winmo 6.5 you will be very pleased. winmo is not totally finger friendly at moment but nohing wrong in using stylus every now and then!
I would rather have a WM based phone over a Linux based phone anyday.
My wife had a linux based phone before and the thing kept dropping the bluetooth connection - not a good thing when needed for hands free.