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Black 3.01: Reinstall "running programs link"

I just upgraded from 2.5 t-mobile black, which had the "running programs" link in the start menu. I used it all the time, when my machine would be come sluggish. Sadly it seems to be missing from black 3.01.
Is there a method to put it back in with 3.01

troyDoogle7 said:
I just upgraded from 2.5 t-mobile black, which had the "running programs" link in the start menu. I used it all the time, when my machine would be come sluggish. Sadly it seems to be missing from black 3.01.
Is there a method to put it back in with 3.01
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The HTC X-Button 1.5 cab adds in the functionality to see a list of running programs from the home screen and you can kill them from there.

thanks bill, I had tried that already, although it doesn't go in the start menu! only goes on the today screen or in the settings menu....

troyDoogle7 said:
thanks bill, I had tried that already, although it doesn't go in the start menu! only goes on the today screen or in the settings menu....
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did you install the new version that adds a drop down menu to the top right corner of the today screen?

yes its awesome, however I want to be able to have a shortcut to it in my start menu a la running programs!
that way I can access directly from the start menu, without having to go to the today screen.

troyDoogle7 said:
yes its awesome, however I want to be able to have a shortcut to it in my start menu a la running programs!
that way I can access directly from the start menu, without having to go to the today screen.
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So go to SETTINGS, then MENU and do whatever you want.

LegolasTheElf said:
So go to SETTINGS, then MENU and do whatever you want.
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Yeah I tried that ages ago but as you know the htc 1.5 program doesn't appear as an option there!!!
Try it out you will see......

Create a file called Running Programs.lnk and put this in it:
22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2

I have put this to WIKI - hope thats ok...but seems as a nice feature.

Cool Thanks... maybe someone will make this into a cab for future flashing...

diaftia said:
Create a file called Running Programs.lnk and put this in it:
22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2
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Alright, so you create a file, by that you mean create a file.lnk and move it to unit or create the file on the unit itself. Reason why I am asking is that on most file managers there is no option to create a file, only folders. Or are you talking about creating a shortcut link to the startmenu from that folder?
Perhaps a little more detail would help.

Unzip this and place it on your device under the Windows/ folder. You can then add it to your start menu under settings

jakirkla said:
Unzip this and place it on your device under the Windows/ folder. You can then add it to your start menu under settings
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I could have done this myself! However, it is more than I expected when I posted the question. Thank you sir.
PS:. Well, since this thread is connected to the Wiki then Kakirkla's file will be there for future reference. Good.

All you needed to do was copy the memory file into programs and it does the same thing.

maevro said:
All you needed to do was copy the memory file into programs and it does the same thing.
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And where is the memory shortcut in WM6 please ?

yea its simple.. just find the file in windows, copy it, and put it in the start menu folder.. good luck

diaftia said:
Create a file called Running Programs.lnk and put this in it:
22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2
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Can u explain a bit more for the rookies

[WAD2] Storm Theme for WVGA

I have modified Mallmans Storm theme to provide a single day agenda on the first page
4 pages: Desktop, Applications, Weather and Calendar
I have also included buttons for Bluetooth, Wifi, Sound and signal (comms manager) in a 'status' area at the top of the page.
On the desktop, the messages (white is for SMS and red is for voicemail), clicking on the red one will dial Voicemail in the UK, white will open "SMS". The email will open my default folder so you will need to change the shortcut for that.
Applications is a mixture of Storm Icons and default icons, I have lots of apps that I don't have time to create icons for so have allowed both to used on the applications page. Weather page is simple and does for me. Calendar provides 2 days worth of events.
I don't have a contacts page as I have mapped a single press of the 'green' button to iContact 6.45BE. Double press launches the phone dialer.
Normal instructions for installing a WAD2 theme. All of my icons and the wallpaper are contained within the zip file and you just need to unzip the file and then copy the folder to Program Files\Lakeridge\Wisbar Advance\Theme and then open WAD2, select 'Settings' by holding the stylus on the screen and select 'Change Theme'.
Thanks to Mallman for providing the base for this.
Any questions just ask away.
The 5Mb file can be downloaded from
http://www.imagesoflife-online.co.uk/GLOC_Storm_Theme.zip
Regards

cant d/l, can u reup?

Well done. Really cool.

Mirror! http://www.filedropper.com/glocstormtheme
Great theme, thanks!

antrak said:
Mirror! http://www.filedropper.com/bbstormtheme
Great theme, thanks!
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hi can u reupload again, when extracting the files, there are some errors like files missing

sunnyou said:
hi can u reupload again, when extracting the files, there are some errors like files missing
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Yes pls re-up!!!

Reup for you guys as requested. Link here and in previous post. http://www.filedropper.com/glocstormtheme

Thanks. I can download the zip file OK but when I try to unzip it asks for a password. Looks like page_desktop and page_applications are password protected? Can you help.

Even tho you have given installation instructions i still cant install the theme. Is there anything else required? I have created the folders that you mentioned but still no success.
Also when i unzip the file it says that there are some files missing. Can you please check and upload the correct file as this seems to be a brilliant theme!!

Wait since you mention "created folders"...did you install WAD before? Because after that all that needs to be done is copy the "BB Storm Theme" folder extracted from the zip into WAD's theme folder, start WAD, right-click somewhere on the desktop page, choose Settings and then Change Theme, or Search Theme.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
And for Chris5304: Your downloaded zip file is either corrupt, or you use an old packing program. Try free 7-Zip, it can also handle 00x file endings, and becomes part of your shortcuts when you right-click on your PC desktop. http://www.7-zip.org/

Lucas0511 said:
Wait since you mention "created folders"...did you install WAD before? Because after that all that needs to be done is copy the "BB Storm Theme" folder extracted from the zip into WAD's theme folder, start WAD, right-click somewhere on the desktop page, choose Settings and then Change Theme, or Search Theme.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
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Thanks to ur help I managed to install the theme but it does not work properly. Infact i have extra windows icons that wont go away and when i click them it says "incorrect pathway"....I really like this theme and really want it to work!!!!

Well its natural to have Icons that lead nowhere at first, since the paths to your installed programs are not always the same as in GLOC's. Already your memory card might be named differently. So in order to adjust the paths you have to learn WAD a little bit. You will manage eventually, as I did.

Lucas0511 said:
Wait since you mention "created folders"...did you install WAD before? Because after that all that needs to be done is copy the "BB Storm Theme" folder extracted from the zip into WAD's theme folder, start WAD, right-click somewhere on the desktop page, choose Settings and then Change Theme, or Search Theme.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
And for Chris5304: Your downloaded zip file is either corrupt, or you use an old packing program. Try free 7-Zip, it can also handle 00x file endings, and becomes part of your shortcuts when you right-click on your PC desktop. http://www.7-zip.org/
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Thanks Lucas. I downloaded again and used 7-zip and all is good.

Lucas0511 said:
Well its natural to have Icons that lead nowhere at first, since the paths to your installed programs are not always the same as in GLOC's. Already your memory card might be named differently. So in order to adjust the paths you have to learn WAD a little bit. You will manage eventually, as I did.
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ok for some reason i still cant figure it out. Is there any website or link that you can provide where i can read up more? I checked the WAD website but that didnt make me more intelligent

OmZ said:
ok for some reason i still cant figure it out. Is there any website or link that you can provide where i can read up more? I checked the WAD website but that didnt make me more intelligent
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Plenty of threads on WAD, you will need to read up a bit but for the basics try this:
press and hold anywhere to get a menu with "Author Mode" as an option. Select this. Then press and hold on a button which doesn't go anywhere for you. Choose "Properties". Click on "Script". Click on "Launch a program" and then "Edit". Click the drop down list arrow next to the program path and choose a program on your machine from the resulting list.
If this is still not clear I think you should search other threads here and on Lakeridge web site forums as this is getting off topic!

Hi, firstly thanks for this great theme, took me a while to figure out what WAD2
I have one slight problem, when on the desktop after I have checked my email or sms and I click close the phone dialer shows up with "Save to Contacts" any idea what is causing this. I am using Duttys 2.6 rom and have the latest trial version of WAD2.
Also how did you make the icons as I would love to create some for HD tweak and othe rapps I use.
Thanks
Sully

Glad you like it.
With regards to adding new contacts I am not sure but it has only just started happening with mine. I am also using Dutty 2.6 extreme and it comes up, it didn't come up when I used the vanilla rom, so I wonder if it is something to do with the new Rom.
With regards to the icons, I am not sure but I know that if you search the Lakeridge forums there are some posted there. I personally use the application icons as I can't be bothered to create new icons!!
Regards

Brilliant mate, love it ! Thanks.

I have the same problem
Probably I do not undestand well
I have instaled WAD2 in my touch hd
I try to unzip your theme zip file, on my desktop, but there are many, many errors.
where is my mistake ?
thanks in advance for your help

Increase SMS box size in touchflo ?

Along my travels of reading thousands of posts in hundreds of threads I seem to remember reading about a tip to increase the viewable box size of SMS messages in touchflo.
Ive tried searching using all the keywords I can think of but have come up blank. I cant remeber if it was even in the Blackstone section.
Im using mun_rus's SMS zoom tool and if I get a large text message I cant always see it all.
Can anyone help please ?

Shetlander said:
Im using mun_rus's SMS zoom tool and if I get a large text message I cant always see it all.
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U are using mine mod for diamond) Coz of bigger screen resolution u getting cut bottom I'll make such mod for HD also

Yep, your mod works good but as you said it cuts the bottom off.
Is it possible to make it remeber the zoom settings so they stick?
Also gona use your Background4alltabs if/when you fix it to work with analogue clocks (Cant give up my big Xperia clock).

In the \Windows folder, edit the file thread_sms.htm.
Look for a line that has the text Height=35. The 35 represents a height of 35 pixels.
You can increase the number as you like. For have three line the right value is 75.

how can you edit the thread_sms.htm file? I found it but doesnt give me the option to edit!
I tried looking for it connected through my laptop but Windows folder is hidden and no matter what I do i cant seem to find it!

copy to sd with your mobile file explorer, edit from sd with windows , copy it back

yea tried that but it wont let me copy it back to the Windows folder!
the file in the Windows folder wont allow me to delete it either! hmmmm

Ive copied it to the SD card and my laptop and unless Im blind there appears to be nothing in it.
The file size is 851 Bytes. Is that right ?

yea thats the file... i copied it onto my desktop, changed the file to open with Notepad and changed the height value to 75.
saved it, changed it back to open with IE then copied it back to SD then tried to replace the file with the existing one... but it wont allow me!

Same problem here, tried all ways. Installed Resco Explorer to get the result. SMS is now much more friendly, thanks for the tip lucarp78.

Hell yeah! Thanks for the tip, exactly what I wanted.
Tip: Use Total Commander and edit the file from the mobile!

yayayay said:
Hell yeah! Thanks for the tip, exactly what I wanted.
Tip: Use Total Commander and edit the file from the mobile!
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When I copy it to my SD card with TC and open it, it opens in Opera and all I can see is a black bar across the top.
How did you edit it on your phone please?
What program did you use to edit it?
Thanks

The easiest way is to use Total Commander. Select properties for the file and remove the Read-Only check. Then edit the file as mentioned earlier and save it. Set the Read-Only property again and reset.
If you want to copy the file to your PC and edit it there, remember to remove the Read-Only property before you copy it back again (either using explorer, Resco Explorer or TotalCommander) otherwise you are not allowed to overwrite it. Hope this help.

Is there any chance someone would be kind enough to put up a copy of the thread-sms.htm file or cut & paste the contents in a thread.
I dont know how but Ive manage to mess mine up royally.
Thanks

Shetlander said:
When I copy it to my SD card with TC and open it, it opens in Opera and all I can see is a black bar across the top.
How did you edit it on your phone please?
What program did you use to edit it?
Thanks
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I said I used Total Commander. Google it and download. Then look up where the file is in your windowsfolderand. Then you should manage the rest.

yayayay said:
I said I used Total Commander. Google it and download. Then look up where the file is in your windowsfolderand. Then you should manage the rest.
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I have Total Comander already installed. When I asked how did you edit it, I mean what program as it opens auomatically with Opera and shows nothing. I managed to get it open once in Notes and edit the line but that didnt seem to work.
I went back to the windows folder and now it comes up with an error. When I look at the file on my works pc there is only about the first 6/7 lines in the file?

Shetlander said:
When I asked how did you edit it, I mean what program as it opens auomatically with Opera and shows nothing. I managed to get it open once in Notes and edit the line but that didnt seem to work.
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The clear up any confusion (because the previous guys who have posted haven't exactly been clear!)... if you simply "open" the file... by clicking or double clicking it... then it will simply "open" in a program designed to open that type of file.
As the file you're trying to edit is a webpage (.htm) then it will "open" in a program designed to "display" webpages... like Opera or IE!
You don't need to "open" the file.... you need to "edit" it.
In Total Commander, click the file once to highlight it, and then select "File" > "Edit" from the bottom menu of Total Commander.
Shetlander said:
I went back to the windows folder and now it comes up with an error. When I look at the file on my works pc there is only about the first 6/7 lines in the file?
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If you've messed up your file... may I suggest you delete it from the Windows folder (using Total Commander).
It will look like it's doing something, but then the file will still be there... as when you delete a file that is originally stored in the ROM, it gets immediately replaced with the original from the ROM!
Then copy the file to your My Documents folder, click it to highlight it, click "File" > "Properties" from the bottom menu of Total Commander, and untick the "Read Only" attribute & click OK.
Edit as above, and click "File" > "Save".
Copy that file back to the Windows directory by clicking "File" > "Copy/Move", click "Tree", highlight "Windows", click "OK", click "Copy"... click "Overwrite" if prompted!

Thanks Sidepa, thats exactly what I wanted to know. Im still getting to grips with TC but its thanks to the help of this community im slowly learning.
After all that though, it still hasnt solved the problem of increasing the text box size. It may be a manilla file that needs editing in mode9 maybe. Hopefully mun_rus will come up with something as hes gona look at getting his diamond app to work on the HD.

Works for me in all input modes. Here is the modified file. Keep a copy of your original for safety then overwrite with this one.

Youtube on HTC Tilt 2 is already installed.

My first post on xda.
Tools > File Explorer > Windows > YouTube (444K sized file will do just fine)
Copy the file and paste shortcut in Start Menu> Programs
The next step is very important.
Goto:Settings >Connections>Connections>Advanced Tab: Select Network button: Change bottom drop down to Media Net. Both drop downs should be Media Net.
Thats it.

cbo02 said:
My first post on xda.
Tools > File Explorer > Windows > YouTube (444K sized file will do just fine)
Copy the file and paste shortcut in Start Menu> Programs
The next step is very important.
Goto:Settings >Connections>Connections>Advanced Tab: Select Network button: Change bottom drop down to Media Net. Both drop downs should be Media Net.
Thats it.
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Hi,
I did as you stated but my YouTube program does not launch from within the start menu, it just stays highlighted when I click on it.
I did a soft reset and nothing changed.
It works if I go to Tools > File Explorer > Windows > YouTube 444K and click on the file.
Any one else had this problem and know how to fix it ?
Thanks

It works for me, but it take forever to connect and sometimes just end up ERROR can not play. I spend more time watching the 'connecting' on the screen than the video I want to watch.

The only YouTube file that works for my Tilt2 was downloaded from google mobile- by using the MS IE, not Opera. The only issue (minor) i get is when i select a video file- it will go into landscape opposite the native landscape of the Tilt2. not a biggie. However, it works fine when using ''changescreen" app (enabled).
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fourakind said:
Hi,
I did as you stated but my YouTube program does not launch from within the start menu, it just stays highlighted when I click on it.
I did a soft reset and nothing changed.
It works if I go to Tools > File Explorer > Windows > YouTube 444K and click on the file.
Any one else had this problem and know how to fix it ?
Thanks
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put a shortcut in the start menu / programs folder not the app.

wabbits said:
put a shortcut in the start menu / programs folder not the app.
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When I copy and paste, is that a shortcut ?
Cause that's what I did an it still doesn't load,it only stays highlighted.

fourakind said:
When I copy and paste, is that a shortcut ?
Cause that's what I did an it still doesn't load,it only stays highlighted.
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i am having the same issue. it highlights but doesnt activate the program.

if you go to the exe file in fileexplorer and then press and hold the exe file, a screen will popup with the options to "send shortcut to programs" hope this helps

I feel pretty silly...
I was able to find the YouTube files on my phone. I copied them over to "Program Files" (which, as I've read here, isn't the way to go about it) So I deleted the files I copied over to there. Problem is, it deleted both the "copies" and the original files :/
How can I retrieve the Tilt 2's version of the YouTube application without completely wiping out my phone?
Thanks for any and all help.

no sound on youtube app
I was able to copy the shortcut over and when I double click on it the client works but there is no sound. What gives?

How do u copy and paste it to the start menu? I hit copy, but when I tap the start menu to open up the menu so I can paste it, it wont let me.

rockoder10 said:
How do u copy and paste it to the start menu? I hit copy, but when I tap the start menu to open up the menu so I can paste it, it wont let me.
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You don't paste it to the menu directly, you have to paste it in /Windows/start menu/programs directory on your phone

Youtube app in start menu
i had the same problem puttin the Youtube app that comes with the Tilt 2 on the start menu and actually getting it to work, but after a whole day of messin with the settings, i finally got it on the start menu, and workin!
first what i did was
opened the file explorer<windows
from here you will sort by name so it appears from a to z(only if u need to because mine showed from z to a)
then you will scroll down to the Youtube folder, click and hold down to copy.
after you copy it you will paste it under the program files (my device<program files)
after that you will need to copy the actuall app and add it to the start menu.
the app will be found under the my device<windows: scroll very closely to the bottom of the list to find the app, click on the one that says 25b. click and hold on it then copy it and paste it under the start menu folder at the top of the windows<programs.
now when you click your start menu there should be the youtube app and should work. i have only tested it under my wifi settings at the house but it should work on 3g.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!
and if you want to rearrange the start menu, i recommened downloading the JWMD-Icon-Changer at:
pocketpc-freeware.net/jwmd-icon-changer-get-12511.html
i downloaded it fomr my pc and sync my phone to my pc after saving the app and draggin and droppin it into my phones file explorer and then installed it from there.

we already had it on the stock rom? I downloaded it from google mobile with google maps :X...anyways, no probs with the way I did it...idk

thanx vic1307, your method worked perfectly!

Vic1307 said:
i had the same problem puttin the Youtube app that comes with the Tilt 2 on the start menu and actually getting it to work, but after a whole day of messin with the settings, i finally got it on the start menu, and workin!
first what i did was
opened the file explorer<windows
from here you will sort by name so it appears from a to z(only if u need to because mine showed from z to a)
then you will scroll down to the Youtube folder, click and hold down to copy.
after you copy it you will paste it under the program files (my device<program files)
after that you will need to copy the actuall app and add it to the start menu.
the app will be found under the my device<windows: scroll very closely to the bottom of the list to find the app, click on the one that says 25b. click and hold on it then copy it and paste it under the start menu folder at the top of the windows<programs.
now when you click your start menu there should be the youtube app and should work. i have only tested it under my wifi settings at the house but it should work on 3g.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE!
and if you want to rearrange the start menu, i recommened downloading the JWMD-Icon-Changer at:
pocketpc-freeware.net/jwmd-icon-changer-get-12511.html
i downloaded it fomr my pc and sync my phone to my pc after saving the app and draggin and droppin it into my phones file explorer and then installed it from there.
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Any reason we don't cut and Paste, instead of copying...doubling the file?

You can't "paste" into the start menu folder....you can't paste into any folder that is already full, because there is no empty space that you can place your cursor on and hold to get menu to pop up.
If you try it ends up clicking on an item in the folder, because there are no empty spots to click on in the folder..
This is one thing that really annoys me with wm6.5....thank the idiot that designed this feature.

ok, I just cut everything out of the start up menu file, and pasted the youtube file into the blank folder, then pasted everything else back into the start up menu.
annoying, but affective. Deleted Google's youtube. Like the stock look one much better. ;D

Post #8!!! That is your answer!!!! Do NOT COPY the exe file to the start menu!! Either copy the YouTube.lnk file to the start menu, or send the exe file to the start menu as a short cut. Also, if you are using the native file explorer, then you may not see the .lnk or .exe file extensions to know the difference.
You should see the files in this order:
*at$t rom*
YouTube.exe (with YT icon) 458k
YouTube.exe.0409 (windows icon) 10.9k
YouTube.lnk (YT icon) 25b <-- file size should be another clue it is just a short cut.
You want a copy of the .lnk file in the start menu.
There are two YouTube apps, one is an HTC app that is hidden on the phone, the other is Google's and it has to be downloaded. I like the HTC app better myself btw.

[Q] replacing a deleted icon in start menu

Hi all
after some great advice from miami_son I have managed to sort out the mess that was my programs start up page.
sadly i also managed to delete the link file for the file explorer program
try as i might (and being very thick) i cant get it back.
can anyone point me in the direction (or tell me how to do it) to get the file link back
many thanks in advance

Use Total Commander to locate fexplore.exe in the \windows directory and select it with a single click. Click on file in lower left corner of Total Commander to bring up the menu. Click on >>>>>> and then click on create shortcut. Use the tree function to place the file in \windows\startmenu\programs.

Follow Kevin's instructions, works for any .exe file you want to create a shortcut for. But I would just skip creating one for that particular file. For one, Total Commander is a much better file explorer and can do more, and the OEM file explorer can cause you to delete things by accident if you aren't real careful.

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Follow Kevin's instructions, works for any .exe file you want to create a shortcut for. But I would just skip creating one for that particular file. For one, Total Commander is a much better file explorer and can do more, and the OEM file explorer can cause you to delete things by accident if you aren't real careful.
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I'm not sure, but I think that many programs use the file explorer to open files, rather than opening it themselves. Or at least this appears to be the case.

stevedebi said:
I'm not sure, but I think that many programs use the file explorer to open files, rather than opening it themselves. Or at least this appears to be the case.
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He didn't delete the program, just the shortcut for it. Once you have Total Commander installed you no longer need the stock shortcut. Like I said, TC is a much better file explorer.

You guys are just brilliant!!!!
Thanks so very much
was on the verge of hard resetting the device to start again!!
thanks again

Me again
new phone ( old one was stolen) so now i have to delete the shortcuts again
try as i mighti cant remember and i have done a search with no joy
so if someone could help me out (again)
I would be so grateful
thanks

stringman said:
Me again
new phone ( old one was stolen) so now i have to delete the shortcuts again
try as i mighti cant remember and i have done a search with no joy
so if someone could help me out (again)
I would be so grateful
thanks
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Delete which shortcuts? Most shortcuts that you see in the start menu are listed in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\.

its the shortcut icons in the programs page
it is accesse by the windows button
its got facebook icons windows market place icones etc
its the icons i want to dump

stringman said:
its the shortcut icons in the programs page
it is accesse by the windows button
its got facebook icons windows market place icones etc
its the icons i want to dump
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The shortcuts (*.lnk files) are located in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs.
The icons for the programs are located (normally) in \Windows.

thanks so how do i delete them?
sorry i know i am being thick

stringman said:
thanks so how do i delete them?
sorry i know i am being thick
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Long press and select delete.

using what programme
Thanks

stringman said:
using what programme
Thanks
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Any file browser application on the device. File Explorer is on every ROM. You could even do it from your PC if you rather.

Install Total Commander. Unzip file, connect device to PC, run the EXE file.

thanks miami son
am i correct in thinking ( from the advice you gave me about a year ago) that you cant actually delete the program but you can delete the icon file (png?)
thanks all

stringman said:
thanks miami son
am i correct in thinking ( from the advice you gave me about a year ago) that you cant actually delete the program but you can delete the icon file (png?)
thanks all
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It sounds like you're just trying to remove some links from your start menu. Is that correct? If it is, then just navigate to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and delete the ones you don't want to appear in the Start Menu. In File Explorer, tap and hold on the one you want to delete until the menu pops up. Select delete and then tap yes. In Total Commander, do the exact same thing. I don't think I can explain that better without making a video of it.

well i would like to delete the progs but I was under the impression that they were installed on the rom and, as such, they cannot be deleted
(certainly when you delete the icon and then do a hard reset the icon re appears)
i will try to combine (my bad) memory and the instructions and see where i can go
thanks all

stringman said:
well i would like to delete the progs but I was under the impression that they were installed on the rom and, as such, they cannot be deleted
(certainly when you delete the icon and then do a hard reset the icon re appears)
i will try to combine (my bad) memory and the instructions and see where i can go
thanks all
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You can't uninstall apps that are cooked into the ROM whether you use stock or custom ROMs. Deleting the link files as I've instructed will prevent them from showing up in your start menu. If you hard reset, they will be right back where they started.

Thanks for all your help guys
i can start to sort out the phone now
thanks again