[REQ]PRJ[IDEA] Convert Hardware ZoomBar to D-Pad on an HTC Rhodium or HTC Topaz - Windows Mobile Software Development

First off I appologize if this is in the wrong section but I didn't know where to start this thread as both the Topaz and Rhodium have a similar zoom bar above the hard keys, there may be other devices too so it would be great if we could develop such an application to work on all these devices which feature a pretty useless zoombar.
I used to own a Touch Pro (Raphael) and evolved to a new Touch Pro2 (Rhodium), the one thing I miss the most (besides the camera LED) is the D-Pad and Enter button.... when the phone is in portrait mode.
I think this image describes my idea pretty well:
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I have no programming skills so I am seeking the great help of all the developers here on XDA. I hope some of you like my idea and post comments and hopefully someone will try and develop this for us to use.
It should have 5 main functions, slide Left, slide Right, tap Up, tap Down, & tap Enter.
What do you think?

im in the same boat, id love to see this come to life.

for the HTC Diamond its possible so it must be possible on this to !!

i'm all for it! i still cant understand the idea that htc had to remove the dpad! :S
anyone working on this?

while i get a touch diamond 2 for chrismas and my father owning a rhodium, we both would be amazed by this mod!

Making the ZoomBar work like Scroll Wheel
here you can maybe found something useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594934
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512614

bump, this thread needs some serious attention from the developers, i would love a nice xmas gift in the form of this app

THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY AWESOME/AMAZING/BAD ASS!!!! I really like the idea of it and how its shown in the pics on the actual touch pro2.. this def. needs to be developed cause it would be WOW!!

anyone have anything?

still waiting for a developer to see this

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just came upon this a few mins ago
its not what tommyr was looking for but it's a start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578420
check it out.

This is what you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645475

i moved from the ppc 6700 apache witht ehexcelent joystick my wife had the mogul and now the touch pro with the dpad. I have the tp2 rhodium and that and the flash are the things i miss most. i actuaqlly did not want to upgrade from the apache to the tp2because the lack of the joystick. for a while itried everything and have given up and just got used to it the way it is. I still miss the one handed contro for reading articles on the web and making phone calls as well moving the cursor to where i wanted it. I sometimes am forced to open the keyboard and use the arrow keys. I used the rhodium keyboard control to assign the up down volume control and the power button as well as the mute button on the back but did not end up using it. i had tap double tap triple tap and press and hold. i tried the actual dpad on the screen but that didnt work for me. the other one that use the zoom control i didnt like becasue you had to slide this one looks much better and looks like it might work. i would be willing to donate to a developer who can make it happen

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where can we get this amazing Touch Dual dialer?

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It would be cool to have something like that.
For sure, notice it's using the efficient built in dialer and it has a 3G video call button.
the advantages:
1. built in fast dialer with more call history(and a smarter search).
2. big buttons for easy use.
3. saves sapce and memory because it's not using the smartdialing mechanism.
I'd love to get my hands on it.
elivne said:
-it's using the efficient built in dialer and it has a 3G video call button.
the advantages:
1. built in fast dialer with more call history(and a smarter search).
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It is my ultimate dream since wm6 has been leaked.
Is there a Touch Dual ROM any where?
i couldn't find it on XDA
, the Touch Dual is out, can anyone get the DIALER?
elivne said:
, the Touch Dual is out, can anyone get the DIALER?
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And by the way get also:
-Touch WMP Skin
-Touch Camera with big buttons which can slide away
-Working Touch Keyboard + Dialpad (the one by duttythroy always disables some keys on soft and hardkeyboard.
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And by the way get also:
-Touch WMP Skin
-Touch Camera with big buttons which can slide away
-Working Touch Keyboard + Dialpad (the one by duttythroy always disables some keys on soft and hardkeyboard.
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Those should be enough for me. But if there are more offers, who the hell can resist??
jarotbudhi said:
Those should be enough for me. But if there are more offers, who the hell can resist??
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All the above features sound and look awesome. I'd love to get a version of the TouchFlo that isn't the "demo" I got several months ago. This one looks ok, but I can't make some changes, etc. And the java definately seems to slow it down.
I'd LOVE to get a touch cruise if and when they are available in the US.
I know it is a matter of time, but for how long?. Do u find it strange that there is any cooker has the desire to add it to his new ROM.
Touch Dialer
As far as I am concerned, heck with VIDEO Dial how about a call history button??
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As far as I am concerned, heck with VIDEO Dial how about a call history button??
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Err....the button above 1 is the call history button.
The video dial button is the main reason why most people want it, otherwise they could just get the Touch dialpad, as far as I am concerned
here: http://rs87.rapidshare.com/files/79169608/Dutty_s_DualTouch_dialler.zip
Be warned if you try that package, you won't have a fully working dialer, and your device may hard-reset or lockup on its own.
I had to reflash an OEM rom to get my device fully functional again after using it. I'd suggest removing that link.
Do somebody have a working one?

One idea, D-pad from Toshiba TG01

This morning I realised one great thing, porting Toshiba TG01 D-pad software to Blackstone Can somebody explane me is it possible or not ?
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Only time and patience will tell us.
It shouldnt be too hard, with the 2 devices having similar resolutions, but i cant help but think this is of limited use. How are you supposed to select something under the dpad?
Hmm, I had no idea Maybe it have bring to front/back options
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It shouldnt be too hard, with the 2 devices having similar resolutions, but i cant help but think this is of limited use. How are you supposed to select something under the dpad?
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i think you can hide the pad just like any other virtual keyboard.
of course, you use the pad when you need d-pad functions(games etc) and not when you need to select something on the screen(in that case you don't need a d-pad, no?).
They stole my idea!
Hey!
I was thinking about this idea few months ago while testing the Touch HD.
I love the HD but sometimes you just need to use a D-Pad, and with the HD you must open the keyboard for that.
Of course, opening the keyboard hides half of the screen so it is not the best idea.
I wanted to develop a virtual D-Pad, one that pops up as a result of some kind of a hardware button.
My only problem was to hack down those arrows commands. I know how to develop all the rest (sticky floating panel).
If someone could help with with how to programically control the arrows - I will be able to create the user interface for the virtual D-Pad.
(Or maybe someone will just port the Toshiba one and that's all... )
The best option would be to try to extract the Dpad Toshiba software from the original TG01 Rom. This shall be easy for the Rom chefs.
I think this application would be really useful.
Update:
I've found that the virtual D-Pad application called Flexipad. great video on http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-toshiba-tg01-windows-phone-software-hands-on
I Hope that someone can extract the application from the ROM of the TG01 as it would be awsome on the Blackstone.
D-Pad TG01
The D-Pad works different from the standard Input Methods.
You can move it all over the screen as you like and it´s Semi-transparent, so that you can even see what´s under it. And you can switch between D-Pad Mode and Touchpad inkl. Mouse-Pointer...
Pretty Nice actually...
Finally there is a ROM update for the TG01 where some chefs can try to extract the application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4682033#post4682033
any news on this
+vote for it!
I cant think of any reason why this should not be possible. Hope one of you WMpro's can get this working on the HD.
bumping this post
I tried searching a tool to extract applications from a ROM.
Do you know any tutorial?
extract files
something from here can help you http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?auto_redirect=1&pagename=TitleSearch&s=extract
Dump of the Flexipad from TG01
Thanks to arag0n85, the attached dump of the Flexipad.
I coudln't make it run, but maybe someone with better skills may do it.

[ Idea ] TF3D Notes Page

One app I keep using a lot of the time is the notes application.
Just to quickly jot something down, or to look up something I wrote earlier.
It would be great if there were a new tab integrated into Touchflo (or Sense, whatever)
I know how to do a bit of programming of my own, but no idea how to create something which would add a new tab to another program such as TF3D.
But yeh, I'm just putting the idea out there.
Please comment if you like this idea.
I hope someone out there will find the time to attempt making this, as it would be a great addition for Touchflo.
Heres a little mockup I made:
(sorry for the poor graphics)
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Select notes along the slider on the right.
To make a new note, slide to the top one (which is blank)
start drawing on it.
Press the tick button, bottom right to save
To delete, slide to the note you want to delete, then click the delete
button, bottom right.
Thanks Dude, This is totally awesome imho....
very nice idea..
I would also add the functionality of reminder...
Sometimes I need to remember something that Ill quickly note but then even forget to look at it...
so very good idea if reminder was added too...
Are there any DEVs feeling the same?
Thats a great idea.
I agree. That would be a nice thing to have
sorry to go off topic, but where did you get your tray skin for 6.5.1?
Thanks for those who've replied, I really hope a dev actually does something like this.
The skin is the one that came with the ROM im using.
Cant remember what the ROMs called though.
Won't be possible sorry.
As far as I understand it, the code for manilla isn't released by HTC, so attempting to add a tab would be impossible?
You sure its not possible?
A new tab has been made before you know :/
Check this out
If you could find a notes today plugin program you could use the manila today tab program you referenced.
That is not a "tab" persay. It displays the today screen and therefor you can show a today plugin, but not add any specific manilla features.

[HELP] On-Screen Keyboard Options Pop-up ALL THE TIME

I don't know is it an issue only I have, or maybe it's a well-know problem that Touch Pro2 users have to deal with but whenever I hit the lowest, middle part of the screen, the Keyboard's Options pop-up, although there's no icon to click. The on-screen keyboard on the other hand never pop's-up by itself, so the issue only regards the Option's box.
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I find this highly irritating, 'cause it happens EVERYWHERE: when I try to hit OK in G-Alarm; when I'm not too precise with the Sense slider or - and this is extremely irritating - when I play games designed for Portrait mode (the upper screen was taken while playing "The Simpsons Arcade"). Portrait mode games are just unplayable (hence the controls are often in the lower screen parts).
I don't really use the options box. If I ever use the on-screen keyboard (which isn't often) I have it always set to Phone Keyboard when in Portrait, and to Full Qwerty in Landscape. I never change those options so if it's possible to disable the Option's box all together that'll be just fine.
I'm not sure is it relevant, but I use an official ROM upgrade to Sense 2.1
Oh come on! I'm sure someone can help. Please? This is a truly irritating bug.
dude, i've never had this happen unless the keyboard icon was present in the middle. sure, if i hit a little weird (which technically I think is to the right of the icon (?)) that screen pops up..
I have no idea why its happening, but since no one has replied, I wonder if it is a glitch or bug w/ just what you got..? have you tried any other roms or resetting to factory default?
Not yet - I'd hate to reinstall all my applications, set them all over again and tweak the phone from scratch (I know I can do a backup but if I would decide to install a new ROM I would switch from the official upgrade (Sense 2.1 with WM6.5) to a cooked 2.5 and the backup wouldn't work).
I don't really fell like doing that just to fix one minor problem.
It's like with bugs on Windows PC - people usually let you to format your disc and install the OS again, but I'm always able to fix any issues I have without formating the device (I haven't done that in a year).
But I'm not that good with Windows Mobile, so I'm asking for your help, oh mighty ones
I'm sure it's something that could be fixed within the registry of with Total Commander - I just don't know how to find the bug myself.
Maybe someone could post his/hers setting from the registry (from directions that have something to do with the on-screen keyboard) so I could compare them with my reg keys?

[IDEA] Flash Game-Compatible Soft Keys..

Believe it or not those ugly arrow keys that come with our stock evo's keyboard could finally come in handy!!
As some of you may know, adobe's mobile flash only works with games with touch input, and not keyboard input (i believe).
I'm trying to find an efficient and non-obtrusive way to fix that!
Here's what I figured. We managed to chop the arrows out of the original keyboard, leaving us with a stock keyboard minus the arrows.
So what if we did the reverse and then added a couple keys for extra functionality such as enter/return and maybe a few customizable keys such as AB & XY.
See the image below for a thrown-together-in-few-minutes example (imagine without the purple hue and obviously better fitting)
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Optimally it would also be transparent (to a degree set in the keyboard preferences).
Though 85-90% opacity oughta do just fine.
A button to quickly switch from arrow keys to WASD would also be nice.
I was thinking a long-press on the keyboard retraction button would be nice and not space-consuming.
I know this is possible, but I hardly have the time or resources to make it a reality.
Thoughts? Flames?
Let's hear em!
adobe's mobile flash only works with games with touch input, and not keyboard input
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I don't get it. How would a soft keyboard with just the arrow keys solve that problem?
Incidentally, AIR for Android (the "Flash as .apk" solution) does allow soft keyboard input, so presumably keyboard support will be added to a future Flash Player release or patch.
In that case, this would be a great idea for phones like the EVO without a D-pad to interact with flash games. Hell, why stop with the SENSE UI hack? Make it look like an SNES controller while you're at it!
great idea
We need this. But I want it for a different reason.
I want it for those small links on web pages. I know its a big screen but sometimes I can't touch where I want.
So if it could have the arrows and maybe an enter button too that would also work on the web pages like a virtual trackball
heywetried said:
I don't get it. How would a soft keyboard with just the arrow keys solve that problem?
Incidentally, AIR for Android (the "Flash as .apk" solution) does allow soft keyboard input, so presumably keyboard support will be added to a future Flash Player release or patch.
In that case, this would be a great idea for phones like the EVO without a D-pad to interact with flash games. Hell, why stop with the SENSE UI hack? Make it look like an SNES controller while you're at it!
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It solves the problem because most games use the arrow keys or WASD as the controls.
Try playing this game on your phone.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/59593
But wait, I can't move anywhere!
It's possible to use the controls to move, for example on the original droid you can use the hardware keys.
For some reason the sense keyboard doesn't work, but it can be made to work if the browser believes the input is coming from hardware keys.
The point is, I highly doubt adobe is gonna make us a specialized soft keyboard that only has what's needed for gameplay and nothing more.
Our current keyboards are too big and would cover the screen, which is why we need something that isn't obtrusive and is transparent so we can see everything behind it.

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