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3G [3G] icon v.s. UMTS [U]

Okay,
This is driving me nuts, i've been a lurker on this forum for months now, and i've searched all over this forum (for the last 3 hours) to find a fix for this but I havent found one.
I'm in Australia, and we've got UMTS here, it's working because it says "UMTS Telstra" in the dialer, but other then that I've still got the 3G icon displaying at the top and it NEVER changes, its so annoying!
I've tried XDA Live 0.10, 0.20 and now i'm using the 15-03-2007 LSVW release and nothing's changed...
I know i'm not the only one experiencing this, but has anybody found a solution for it?
Other than that everything else works great!

3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.

silent_killa said:
3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.
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Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..

Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.

silent_killa said:
Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.
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I've searched all over this forum, and I haven't found it... I think i did come across it once before but when i tried to look for it now I couldn't find it... (very annoying)...
I know the I-Mate roms show it as a "U" because thats what I had on prior to WM6
Any idea what i should search for? I've tried "3G Icon" and "UMTS"

Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.

sirtrini said:
Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.
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Yeah i know about that one, I discovered it in XDA-Live 0.10...
If anyone could please post either the cleaner 3G icon or the "U" icon and instructions on how to install them, i'd be very thankful

If you let the ext rom on LVSW install then it will install the cleaner icon
S.K.

Andy4life said:
Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..
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I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"

This cab work's good for me with wmxl 0.21

Wow, something this small annoys you? Why does it matter?

As several of us have said elsewhere, we get areas of standard signal, "3G" signal, and HSPDA signal. Without three icons, we can't distinguish between them.
Once again:
G = okay signal and speed.
U = good signal and 3G speed (upto 384 Kbps).
H = very good signal and speed upto (in my case) 1.8 Mbps.
When "U" and "H" signals both display as "3G", you can't tell if you've moved into an HSPDA area. In my case, I move across my office and it goes to "H" and I get better speed - so it's VERY useful when I want to browse or download stuff (or watch SlingPlayer).

Fair enough. I don't use any telco-supplied data so I wasn't sure. I always connect to local wireless.

Izzard-UK said:
I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"
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Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".

Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I don't see what's wrong with the 3G icon...I think it looks more beautiful than the just the U icon. After all.....it's called 3G technology...which is a simpler name instead of the technical name.

My experiences:
LVSW first version gives a nice looking 3G icon when I've got UMTS coverage. When HSDPA is used, it show the 'H' icon (only when connected!).
However, the second LVSW version shows a 'stretched' 3G icon.
Is this also fixed by the cab file mentioned earlier?

Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I looked for a solution to the ugly 3g icon too, but i think i gave up pretty fast. so iv'e learned to live with it, somehow. but i still want the "U"

hi,
do a search for shogun_Uicon.cab,that should take care of U probem...
after that do a registry hack for H icon and u r set to go....
hope it works

Hey all,
I installed the LVSW ROM onto my iMate. I've had the same problem mentioned here before (not displaying as UMTS)...
I think the reason for it is quite simple, at least for the Telstra users.
NextG nextwork is counted as a normal 3G network.. not as a UMTS network. The original WM5 rom that was supplied might have had some sort of hack in place for us JasJam users...
Anyways, now I actually get a HSDPA logo on my phone, letting me know about speeds...
*shrugs*

The TEST WWE AKU 3.3 Full ROM that I was given to test displayed the connection as follows:
G GPRS
U 3G
H HSDPA
I never saw an E as we don't have Edge in our area.
I changed the U display to read 3G with a posted registry hack.
The G correctly displays GPRS network
The 3G correctly displays 3G or UMTS
The H correctly displays when a data package is sent or received.
Maybe this information can lead you in the right direction with the WM6 os.
Cheers

no network type icon (G/E/3G/H) on Tmo TP2?

On my Tmo TP2 the icon that notates that you're in Edge, GPRS, or 3G is missing from the task bar at the top. Is this the case with any one else?
I've been wondering since I got the phone why its not there. Its on my Tilt & on the MDA, but missing on the TP2. How do I get it back (without changing the task bar icons)?
you can see the difference in the 2 screen shots to see what i'm talking about. The first is my phone & the second is some stock image. see the H? yeah, mine should show a 3G beside the signal bars as well. WTF?

Just got my replacement Tmo TP2 (for another issue) in the mail & it still does the same thing. These were taken without modifying anything on the new phone. Again, no big G/E/3G/H right next to the signal bars

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On my Tmo TP2 the icon that notates that you're in Edge, GPRS, or 3G is missing from the task bar at the top. Is this the case with any one else?
I've been wondering since I got the phone why its not there. Its on my Tilt & on the MDA, but missing on the TP2. How do I get it back (without changing the task bar icons)?
you can see the difference in the 2 screen shots to see what i'm talking about. The first is my phone & the second is some stock image. see the H? yeah, mine should show a 3G beside the signal bars as well. WTF?
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What ROM is on the phone in you're picture? The unbranded HTC Touch Pro2, is there any way to put the unbranded ROM onto the TMo US TP2?

its the stock Tmobile TP2 ROM. There probably is a way, I just don't want to flash to a different ROM

I don't think I had any problems getting E,G,3G to show up when I first got my device. Now I use a different set of taskbar items so I cannot verify that.

Its replaced by the "3G T-Mobile" located on the left... when you dont have the 3G it goes down to just "T-Mobile".. there is a registry tweak that allows you to bring back the 3G, E, G, but i cannot remember where it is located in the registry, I saw it on the Raphael section

So it was brought to my attention here that even in the Tmo TP2 manual there are screenshots where the icons aren't there.
It seems that Tmobile disabled it. Stupid. Why do that? Oh well, putting a taskbar theme on the phone fixes it.
I would be interested in seeing the registry tweak you're talking about BlackAccord.
As far as the 3G "Carrier" vs "Carrier" thing, that's on all TP2s, not just the Tmobile version

I have a custom task bar that I got over on PPCGeeks and it has the 4 bars with a blue E above them AND another E next to that by itself! I want to get rid of the blue E above the bars without changing any of the other icons, but have no idea how to do it.

as far as i know, you can't change the blue E unless you revert to the white E. the E on your signal bars is to notate that you're actually connected to data while the big E is to notate that you're in an area with EDGE data coverage.

don't have it in mine either and was wondering at first why nobody at tmonews knew about it when you asked, i guess they're all hardcore tmo users with no unbranded phones
as you've probably known from your Tilt, the H or 3G shows up when not using data (2100 present), but switches to a E when the Tilt data is activated(no 1700). My guess is Tmo removed the icon in a pathetic attempt to not draw attention to the absence of their anemic 3G coverage. But the icon placeholder is there, just blacked out, since when you get a notification, there's a blank space between the message icon and the antenna bars. I too was trying to get it back, but have gotten used to the blank space, since I just canceled the data after they blocked web2go network-wide yesterday.
edit:
check out this photo of TMUS TP2 alongside Pharos Traveler 137, which has both ATT & TM 3G bands. There is good reason why TMUS would want to hide that icon
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=12969305#post12969305

Rooted and flashed Pays-ROM...General comments and a few questions, newbies welcome

Hey guys,
So, I finally rooted my Desire (no so much because i was unhappy with what i have, but more because I could ). I just wanted to share some general observations about the whole process and ask a few questions. This is my first android device and the first time I root/flash a rom so for all accounts and purposes I am a newbie.
Things I learned:
1. Save your APN settings BEFORE you do anything. My provider (Softbank, Japan) locks APN info and you can't even see it - use a third party app like ApnManager that exports the info to a xml file. If you don't you will find yourself without network after rooting. Also, if you are on Softbank (or other such ****ty carriers) you might have different APN settings for different data plans.
2. From what I understand you can use any SD card after rooting. You will need a goldcard only when flashing a new ROM.
3. After rooting it found itself an update (the 1.21) but for some reason it never finished updating. So, I flashed a new ROM instead.
4. Battery life improved a lot after flashing new ROM (I was on 1.18 before, Pays-ROM is 1.21). I had 13% left after around 14 hours with casual browsing over wifi, few phone calls and an hour or two of reading books on it... Before it would have died on me after the 8th-9th hour I think.
Questions:
1. After I rooted (and, after tons of googling, found APN settings that worked) I noticed my phone never stayed on "3G", always switched to "HSDPA". From what I understand, HSDPA is faster (I am consitently getting 2Mbps download). However, it is not the behavior I experienced before rooting. Most of the time I had the phone use "3G" and only so often switch to "H". Now it seems it tries "3G", doesn't get a response, and switches to "H". So, I am curious if anyone has any knowledge about this, is it normal, etc.

same i get H when i am on 3G but it seems slower for me when i am on H . are you on orange ?

Nope, softbank (Japan). Try to run a network speed test... What speeds do you get?

Some ROMS don't include the "H" icon for HSDPA and will show the "3G" icon instead.

Pays-rom has it. It just doesn't stay on the "3G" at all - always switches to "H" after 2-3 second delay... Before I flashed it showed mostly "3G" and rarely "H"...

@the OP, you will probably find that you are getting H reception now because you used new APN settings. The original settings probably have a few parameters that were different. There was a thread in general about this very subject. people altered their APN settings and got much faster speeds.
The only roms that don't have the H symbol are the new froyo beta's. All 2.1 roms have this icon, although the H symbol has been worked in to some of the new beta's now.
Your understanding about the SD card is correct. You only need a goldcard during the rooting process. Any standard SD card will then work as normal.
@faddys, if you are on H you should get the best speeds. Download a speedtest app from the market and test it.

[REQ] display correct data connection

Is there a way to get a rooted stock sense (deodex) ROM to display the correct data connection and not always display "3G" even if you are in a 1xRTT area? I am also themed with this theme (if it matters)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753081
(or maybe there is a theme that gives the 'stock' look that will display correct icons?)
I've read many postings on many forums (even Sprint's and HTC's) about this issue, but no answers were ever posted if it would be fixed.

If I remember correctly, the manual states that when the 3G icon is lit up you are connected to 3G, when it is greyed out you are connected at 1xRTT.

[Q] 1x/3g Signal Notification Mod?

Hello - does anyone know of a mod that changes the taskbar icon to show when you're in a 1x signal area? Someone did provide a link to a widget to do this, but I'm wondering if there is an option that replaces the static 3g signal icon with one that changes between 1x and 3g? I tried searching this thread and the theme section but 1x is too short for XDA's search. Running Myn's ROM. Thanks much...

the_mig said:
Hello - does anyone know of a mod that changes the taskbar icon to show when you're in a 1x signal area? Someone did provide a link to a widget to do this, but I'm wondering if there is an option that replaces the static 3g signal icon with one that changes between 1x and 3g? I tried searching this thread and the theme section but 1x is too short for XDA's search. Running Myn's ROM. Thanks much...
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Unless I'm missing something, the notification bar will show 3G when you're IN 3G and 1x if you're IN 1x....
The icons themselves are in framework-res.apk if you wish to change them but as far as them changing, they do so automatically...

the_mig said:
Hello - does anyone know of a mod that changes the taskbar icon to show when you're in a 1x signal area? Someone did provide a link to a widget to do this, but I'm wondering if there is an option that replaces the static 3g signal icon with one that changes between 1x and 3g? I tried searching this thread and the theme section but 1x is too short for XDA's search. Running Myn's ROM. Thanks much...
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I'm sort of in the same boat. There's probably like 2% of people here that want a 1x/3g mod so I don't think the support will go to it.
It "suppose" to switch from 3g to 1x if you are in a 1x area but i't doesn't do it for me. but if you only want to know when you are connected to 1x than you can download this app for free on market called Cellumap. It will show a bunch of crap about the network you're on but it also shows 1xrrt or Evdo_a/o(3g). But I don't think there's a app out that changes your network icon to 1x when connected

typeadam said:
Unless I'm missing something, the notification bar will show 3G when you're IN 3G and 1x if you're IN 1x....
The icons themselves are in framework-res.apk if you wish to change them but as far as them changing, they do so automatically...
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For whatever reason, HTC or Sprint decided to mask 1x service with the 3g icon. I've driven through the same service areas with CM6 and a Sense ROM (Myn 2.2) and when service drops to 1x, CM6 shows the change. However, the Sense ROMs mask the change making you think you are always on 3g. Here is a post that discusses it in detail: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803307&page=3
It's really annoying when you are using data and it drops from 3g to 1x but the phone doesn't show the change. Any suggestions?

Probably Sprint's way of making you think they have more 3G than they actually do?

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Probably Sprint's way of making you think they have more 3G than they actually do?
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Probably, tmobile does the same with their H icon for 3g and HSPA+

Maybe Mobile Signal Widget would report a 1X data rate on a sense ROM? Not the ideal solution, I know.

nukedukem said:
Maybe Mobile Signal Widget would report a 1X data rate on a sense ROM? Not the ideal solution, I know.
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Thanks... just installed it but it sucks that it takes up valuable screen space with a widget. I guess it's better than nothing.
I appreciate all the insight, and interesting that Tmob does something similar. Maybe a dev would be interested in taking this on?