WM 7 on DIAMOND? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-is-official-and-microsoft-is-playing-to/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_6GMBDG67M
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Would there be a port/nbh?

Sadly I don't think the diamond is powerful enough to run WM7, but surely someone will try to get it running. I may have to buy a new phone when WM7 comes out..

HTCDiamond22 said:
Would there be a port/nbh?
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There is no specifications released yet. For what i've seen on webcast from MWC it's a complite rebuild of OS itself. So even if it will be posible it would be something like porting Android.

Diamond 3
I think the next gen Diamond will probably be able to run it

I believe that it is not a chance that diamond can run wm7. Even if it can run, the animation, transition, 3d will be extremely sluggish and crash everywhere. Sad. I think 6.5.3 is the end of the development for diamond. Time to buy new device everyone.

I won't get my hopes up, but it wouldn't be the first time the xda community surprised me? I remember the first wm 6.5 rom! SO CRAPPY!
I know MS has gotten better code more recently but the optimizations that took foot for sense 2.5, 2.1, and manilla 2.1 to even run are quite impressive!

love all the work here first of all got my diamond a longer live than would hope
i think it's impossible for Windows Phone 7 to run on android.
M$ has stated there are high minimum standards even for todays phones (think 1Ghz proc. 512mb ram min. maybe even dedicated GPU, high resolution screen, capacitive) all attributes the Diamond does not posses.
Not that impressed with WP7 for know but they have a 6 month period to refine and define it.
I would love to see an all out effort to get Andriod to the Diamond, dedicated from first boot and getting everything out of the Diamond.

I heard that WM7 need's a mac to run it.

Just watched the ms video on utube and I must say it looks owesome, but would it make htc sense redundent?

feelings on 7
it would make everything redundant, after looking at the vid, I am guess 1ghz processer minimum, no more sence, this is a new concept, and microsoft will never allow 3rd party interfaces again, they are pushing xbox live and bing, so to me it looks like it will be simply a ms money spinner and thats that. bet appz will only be available from there app store as well, just my feelings on it.

We might not see WM7 for our devices. We'll see a lot that looks like it though!
I think I can envisage similar UIs popping up everywhere.

The diamond does not have Capacitive multitouch screen with is required for Windows Phone 7 series. So, it will not work on the diamond.

WM7 is able to manage Capacitive multitouch screen. It doesn't mean that "NON Capacitive multitouch screen" is not allowed ... I think nobody knows today what is the final spec of WinMO 7

You're all wrong
wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395[/url]
This clearly shows a current 6.5 phone running Windows Mobile 7, and it even says it runs faster than 6.5 does. This means that it probably would run faster on devices that currently run 6.5, sorta like Vista vs. 7. Microsoft haven't released any minimum hardware specs yet, the only things they've said the device requires is a start, home and search button, and they said this for 6.5, and XDA managed to circumvent that .
I think someone in the community will get 7 to run on our old Diamonds, and it may not be as fast as the Leo or some newer phones, but who would expect it to? I think the 600mhzish processors in our devices shouldn't limit us that much.

Apparently WVGA is the minimum resolution required as well, so unless it can be ported then I doubt it

Well it could be a good thing if someone succeed into making a WM7 for our diamonds.
I think, the hard spec will be like HD2. But who knows, this OS may be the third life for the first diamond.
BTW, don't you think the design of the phone on the video is really like diamond design !?

let us just take the first iphone ... it had 400 mhz and just 128 mb ram ... i hope it's right i'm not definetly sure ... the ui on the vid was great ... no question , but the diamond ist so much faster than the first i phone the OS is the part which should use the cpu and gpu right ... i think 1000mhz on the HD2 are way too much ... iphone 3gs has 600 mhz now why the hd2 needs so much .. so i'm sure that wm7 can be ported, like sense, to the diamond.. and release after release it will be better
PS sorry for my english i know it's sometimes hard to understand, i'm german

This article <<HERE>> spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)

http://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/8274606051

band27 said:
This article [pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2359647,00. spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)
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"The HD Mini will presumably not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7, as it doesn't have a fast enough processor. "
This is all presumption by pcmag.com, and it has nothing to do with actual information sent out by microsoft. Also, their desktop OSs have pretty high 'minimal specifications' yet hackers find ways to bypass these every time. The Diamond isn't even fast enough to hance 6.5, yet XDA got it to run. Any info microsoft puts out is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is if anyone on XDA gets it running and if it runs well.

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Google Android SDK- Android the New Os for Trinity?

Google Android SDK is out, when will we see the first Alpha for our trinity?
Google Android SDK
I was looking at this lastnight, would be great to get it running on a trinity, but I'm betting it would be a b*tch to find the required drivers for a lot of the more advanced hardware (gps, 3g radio, etc...)
That said I think it still needs a bit of polish before it'll be truely ready, very pretty though.
would be prety cool and maby better faster and nicer than WM
it will be faster than WM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/1FJHYqE0RDg&rel=1
how long will we wait?
it appears that in the video, they explain that 3G+, wifi, GPS etc... a lot of technologies would be supported, and, as all of you knows, it is open source, so drivers won't be long to be released.
i also browsed the http://code.google.com/android and looked after the members of what they named "The Alliance", it appears that HTC is one of them, so it will be good for us =)
let's have news later of this really good looking project !!!
Older stuff
It looks like a good project. But what would be nice is a OS that can be installed on older PDAs (With or without phone). Some of the older units which have larger screens and good cpu just languish in the closet because the OS is outdated and the manufacturer would rather sell new than support older units. I've invested money into a solid unit that now just sits, and moved everything over to the Trinity.
But hey, someday the Trinity will be old and it's sites like this that will be the only support.
Is there anything new to the Android OS on HTC Trinity? I'd like to test it... ;-)
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it appears that in the video, they explain that 3G+, wifi, GPS etc... a lot of technologies would be supported, and, as all of you knows, it is open source, so drivers won't be long to be released.
i also browsed the http://code.google.com/android and looked after the members of what they named "The Alliance", it appears that HTC is one of them, so it will be good for us =)
let's have news later of this really good looking project !!!
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I repeat myself: Don't expect anything for free for the P3600. HTC has obviously stopped work on this device, and moreover is already angering customers with next-generation-phones, by stating that the problems might be solved in future devices. So don't hold your breath for HTC to create drivers for hardware from 2006.
Have fun!
Lost_in_translation said:
I repeat myself: Don't expect anything for free for the P3600. HTC has obviously stopped work on this device, and moreover is already angering customers with next-generation-phones, by stating that the problems might be solved in future devices. So don't hold your breath for HTC to create drivers for hardware from 2006.
Have fun!
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I think HTC Touch is the only pda capable to run android, but yes, i'd love to run into my white trinity...
I have read on official mailing lidt for Android, that android is made for ARM5 processor.
Our trinity have an ARM4 processor so,it won't work.
And it's look like you can't cross compil to ARM4 besause some part of the kernel is not release, and some processor instrution need to be replace...
Android, Google, MS and other "paranoid" stuff
Ok Folks,
From time to time my "looming" side wins over and my paranoid side peeks up...
Don't be so eager to see the new android as a 7th wonder. What I thought (and feared most) about MS as a Big Brother one day (the "conspiracy" to make us buy ever newer "state of art" computers and because the new OS versions (with each time more demanding HD, memory and processor specs; not to speak of the unknown amount of personal data unknowingly "smugled" into their databanks) now seems grow even worse as the new BB stands up with the happy idea of "net free applications!".
So what? Why can we not set the Google Maps Cache according to our needs? Why do we need to be ON-LINE to use it?
We are stimulated to move some of our files to free-on-line datacenter (or shortly will be invited to).
Think of it a little: if a good part of our applications move to the WEB, fine, cheap, but you'll have to be on-line to access it.
How about some nice and cheap montly contribution, some sort of "signature" for you to access the files you put there. Imagine if MS brokes up and everbody turns Google and Android. How much power do you think this Corp will amount?
If Android goes this thread (on-line apps only or mostly) keep your head down and take easy.The least I would expect was to see the old Bill's as a nice guy after all...
After all, with normal software once bought it is YOURS (ok Antivirus and such don't count), with on-line apps, it will never be yours...
Ok, that is it.
Have a nice week!
Nothing except free software is yours when you use it.
I wouldn't count on an Android port for HTC devices (not even the Diamond). Windows Mobile is a great platform but nobody took advantage of its full capacity.
Don't expect to see anything better than WM6.1 running on a Trinity.
By the way, does anybody know if Linux currently works on it?
Linux...
AndyM3 said:
Nothing except free software is yours when you use it.
I wouldn't count on an Android port for HTC devices (not even the Diamond). Windows Mobile is a great platform but nobody took advantage of its full capacity.
Don't expect to see anything better than WM6.1 running on a Trinity.
By the way, does anybody know if Linux currently works on it?
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Actually there have some threads, out of date... The developers seem to have left Trinity out, because of its lack of keyboard.
I could not find anything downloadable for it. Last time Isaw was two weeks ago...
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Kernel vs ARM4
We need to wait that kernel have drivers to work with ARM4...
Android on Trinity wanted!!
now that the full code is out it's possible!!
who is able to translate the available WM drivers into Android drivers?!?

Windows Phone 7 Series running on a Touch Pro

just saw this image on twitter -
[image removed] - nothing to see, turns out it was a joke
Please close this thread
Can you provide the source of this picture
Win_XP said:
Can you provide the source of this picture
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malatesta from WMExperts posted this on Twitter - http://twitter.com/malatesta77
Total Fake. I know who did this.
(by the way, you can see when someone simply uses a screenshot from the internet to do such a fake: the live tiles show the same picture as the screenshots on the net)
freyberry said:
Total Fake. I know who did this.
(by the way, you can see when someone simply uses a screenshot from the internet to do such a fake: the live tiles show the same picture as the screenshots on the net)
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well that's depressing - oh well, i found it hard to believe anyway
I heard it's also running on the Himalaya!
haha! It probly would run with all that ram...
I still have my Himalaya aka xda2 in my draw, I cant let it go...
They discussed it here. It's a joke.
wreiad said:
They discussed it here. It's a joke.
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That's talking about an HD2 running WP7S, not the Touch Pro 1 pictured above.
dwizzy130
Windows Mobile 7 requires a minimum of 1 ghz or processing speed.
There is a new HTC HD mini coming out as a lower end HD2 that won't even be compatible to the WM7 series let alone older devices.....
Take a look <<HERE>> for more info.
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That's talking about an HD2 running WP7S, not the Touch Pro 1 pictured above.
dwizzy130
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That's what they said about winmo 6.x. It will never be ported, now what? I believe that when the xda community gets its hands on it, it will be ripped apart in milion small pieces and we'll see then
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haha! It probly would run with all that ram...
I still have my Himalaya aka xda2 in my draw, I cant let it go...
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me to mines just sitting in a draw i've been looking for the dock for it for ages but i've given up now with my touch hd
wreiad said:
They discussed it here. It's a joke.
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funny...
band27 said:
Windows Mobile 7 requires a minimum of 1 ghz or processing speed.
There is a new HTC HD mini coming out as a lower end HD2 that won't even be compatible to the WM7 series let alone older devices.....
Take a look <<HERE>> for more info.
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So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
chiks19018 said:
So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
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Look chiks19018. This is a pre-release OS on a test phone. This is not the real OS. If they were done with the OS it would be released by summer not all the way in Q4 this year. You have to think about things before you make assumptions. Its been annoying me how people would say this OS is slow or laggy when this is NOT THE FINAL OS. I repeat THIS IS NOT THE FINAL OS. This OS was only shown to shut up bloggers with thier WM7 mock-ups or so-called pics(which were quite interesting and I did like some of them). And lets not forgot the amount of animations on this OS compared to the Iphone. Or how deep everything in this OS is connected. This OS from the looks of it is 10x smarter than iphone OS, and when they fix all the bugs and glitches (hopefully be4 release) it will be faster the iphone OS which to me is a very basic, simple OS. Next, the iphone OS was in production for 2 years before they came out and last time I checked when the iphone came out the OS had a crap load of problems. And its taken them 3 updates before they got it right. And I doubt this test phone has a 1ghz processor because of how slow it was running. Again. Pre-release OS. Before you make stupid assumptions at least wait till the OS is released publicly (not beta) before comparing it to the Iphone OS/Iphone thats been updated many times over and has been out for 4 years.
P.S. I hate Iphone, so srry for the hostility.
@the above, we don't even know what hardware it was running on, though I read on Engadget or Gizmodo that it is manufactured by Garmin/Asus (wtf?)
I'm guessing, Chassis 1, but I won't be surprised if it's actually on lesser spec.
chiks19018 said:
So how come the iphone with sub 1ghz could and still provide such fluid UI/screens/Graphics?
This is scary to me. What it means is that the graphics will be bogged down sooner or later, stutter, lag or even freeze if you have many live hubs being updated (or bombarded) simultaneously.
Even in Joe's demo, the Album scrolling was NOT as fluid as a 600mhz iphone.
BAD!
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Remember that any demos illustrations you see today will not represent the final product of tomorrow. WP7 is still in it's prototype phase.
As far as minimum requirements of 1 ghz is concern, this is so WP7 stays super fast and competes or beats other devices on a speed front. Microsoft doesn't wont' sub-par 1ghz phones to be used as so to keep there devices lightening fast.
Once again, wp7 is still a prototype and there is still 10 months to go to clean up many parts of the OS, including smooth and silky operation improvements. WM7 went through the same stages, as I was a beta tester, testing build after build after build and significant improvements kept on coming on a month bases.
My only concern is that this might be rushed and the final product might resemble what Vista represented. A rushed version of WM7. So microsoft saw that and called it "Vista."
I hope this is not the case here but there have been already some talks about this being the case.....
i hope that windows mobile 7 is not a result of rushed development.
band27 said:
Remember that any demos illustrations you see today will not represent the final product of tomorrow. WP7 is still in it's prototype phase.
As far as minimum requirements of 1 ghz is concern, this is so WP7 stays super fast and competes or beats other devices on a speed front. Microsoft doesn't wont' sub-par 1ghz phones to be used as so to keep there devices lightening fast.
Once again, wp7 is still a prototype and there is still 10 months to go to clean up many parts of the OS, including smooth and silky operation improvements. WM7 went through the same stages, as I was a beta tester, testing build after build after build and significant improvements kept on coming on a month bases.
My only concern is that this might be rushed and the final product might resemble what Vista represented. A rushed version of WM7. So microsoft saw that and called it "Vista."
I hope this is not the case here but there have been already some talks about this being the case.....
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Touch Pro3

Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
LocDogg said:
Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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I'm not crazy about WP7, at least the initial release of info. They've killed everything that was great about WinMo and opted for the locked-down, iPhone-like, walled garden approach. I'd love a TP3 with WM6.5.3, more RAM, and a Snapdragon processor...and US 3G bands.
That kind of processor does sound pretty sweet. And the capacitive touch screen. But no hardware keyboard... I don't know what I'd do without it, but thats just me.
LocDogg said:
Just had a dinner with a friend of mine who is the main distributor for HTC in Europe, and he informed that they will receive the first shipment of Touch Pro3's this summer and they will be on sale in Europe third quarter of this year. This is my main contact for HTC devices and he arranges a Touch Pro2 for me 4 months before it was officially released...He told me that the device will be much smaller and thinner, and soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
totally agree with dwboston ...I'm with 6.5.# with better specs Not sold on windows 7 at all so far.
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Definately but it would have to have the hard keyboard, otherwise it wouldn't be a touch pro would it?!
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It would be a Touch or HD...The main reason I would buy TP would be because of the hard keyboard...
I'll wait for the first Windows 7 Phone that includes a decent keyboard. Hopefully HTC, but would consider SonyEricsson as well.
I won't be touching a Windows phone ever again after this.
TP2 was a major disappointment for me because of OS, underpowered processor, and (nit picky) the fact that Telus (Canada) would release the version that does not work on their HSPA network.
I'll be swapping to Palm / webOS -- ideally the newer model that will be launched around the same time with a larger display.
Do You Think Screen Shots Will be Released Soon?
LocDogg said:
soon he will provide me with the evidence including the full specifications Do you guys think this would be something you would purchase or would you rather wait for the Windows Phone 7?
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I think it would depend on what those specs are... and have a hw-keyboard, of course. I wouldn't buy if all I knew was the name "TP3".
Seriously doubt if I'll be having anything WM again unless something spectacular happens. I like the TP2 hardware but WM really disappoints. I read somewhere that the HD2 is a wonderful piece of hardware crippled by it's software and that's how I feel about the TP2.
Android for me next I think
theres no pictures or specs or anything of the touch pro 3. theres no reason we really need wm7, it doesnt seem to bring much besides a new interface. ill still have my touch pro 2. and if i still have it while the current version of windows mobile dies, i hope android will be as close to 100% running on it as possible. i hope i dont get pushed into buying an iphone.
I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..
corepda said:
I would go for HD2+keyboard as TP3..thats my simple & easiest solution for HTC..
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Same here. Actually that would be my only replacement for my tp2.
windows phone 7 4 me
The only negs have found with TP2 is
1. Weight ... but it gives a solid feel
2. Faster processor
3. The zoom bar is quite useless - either make screen bigger/create a 'dpad'/make device smaller (not screen)
Have installed ZoomBarPlus today so will see if use the zoom bar more
Other than that very happy with TP2 ...nothing else on maket that would even consider at the moment
i don't see how the tp3 would be the 'upgrade' from tp2, or even tp1 if it's the htc tera as rumoured and specs are indeed as leaked
in fact, it seems like a downgrade and a complete disgrace to the 'touch pro' line (although it only consists of 2 phones, 4 if u include the tytn and tytn 2)
wqvga and a 600mhz qualcomm cpu which STILL doesn't have proper drivers? oh c'mon HTC. our patience is running out
Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....
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Isn't this old news? Also HTC Thropy is cming this summer. The Debug ROMS are already out on the web....
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That's Trophy, I assume...
Only if the TP3 has a processor on crack
I gotta agree that unless the physical specs are much better...such as a processor on steroids, I am quite happy with my TP2.
I like the solid feel, I absolutely LOVE the physical keyboard...and I am perfectly happy with 6.1 as it is super stable (even though 6.5 is prettier). My only complaint is the processor...I want a processor on crack!! Give me that while keeping all the faboo things about the TP2 and I may consider getting a TP3...otherwise, no way!!
As for WinMo7...not impressed with the info out there about it...sounds like a step backwards!!
Tera
I don´t think we will see any Touch Pro 3 in 2010, perhaps in 2011...
As for Tera, I don´t think it´s an upgrade for Rhodium
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WP7s on HD2 - Is it possible?

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So I'm wondering what the concensus is. Are we going to see this or not?
The official word is obviously that there will be no upgrade for the HD2, but people seem to have hope in the community here. I'm not much of a dev/hacker to know for sure, so I'm wondering what you guys think...
The issues I'm hearing are:
Hardware buttons
GPU
On-board storage
Upscalling
The hardware buttons are obviously a non-issue. And from what MS is saying, despite not being able to swap out memory cards, SD storage can be used by OEMs to supplement on-board storage. But I dont know about the GPU and upscaling. Are these built in to the HD2 already? Is the upscaling a hardware or software issue? Are these things a deal breaker??
This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
I don't see anyone NOT putting it on there, especially when it hits America (If it hasn't already that is)
HOWEVER, i highly doubt you will want to use it. THey are going the iphone route. NO more File explorer and open source and multi tasking. All the things that made WinMO popular are apparently disappearing.
Disappoints me really. I jumped on the Android train. My first PDA was a dell X50
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This would be most excellent if so,I just picked up a HD2 last night and even though I am back to edge speed ( which is not a real issue for me,lots of wifi around.) I LOVE THIS PHONE !!!
Man this thing is making me giggle like a school girl.....
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just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
pgiuoco said:
just wondering, why didn't you wait till the 24th to get the one from T-Mobile so you'd have 3g?
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that's what im doing, 4 more days! cannot wait to get my hands on this beast!
All because of $$ !!
M$ want more developer to developes more app and game for WP7S, in order to do that, u need to convince developer that they can make $$ for the app. Currently it is to easy to get craXXk app for WinMo.
M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
My only wish is : Hopefully M$ don't be hash on XDA, cos i believe XDA will make something interesting from WP7S for HD2 ... i believe.
Althought I'm glad others are showing interest, I was hoping to make this a technical discussion around the facts of whether it can or cannot happen. And maybe at this point the answer is "we dont know." But hopefully we'll get more answers in time...
I think the question is not whether or not the HD2 will receive the upgrade to 7. Officially or unofficially, I think its just a matter of time. May not be as soon as youd like, but I't will get there. Its more a question of how relevant the HD2 will be be the time win7 is made available to it. Also, will there be able to be some kind of dual boot option available. The way 7 is shaping up, I'm not too enthused about only having 7. I would use 7 for gaming, social use, and winMo 6.5 when I'm looking to get my hands dirty.
Is it a Tomtom icon we can see? is the old version or is tomtom already developpe a new one in Sylverlight?
AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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AFAIK that image is simply a skin over the top of WM6.5 rather than WM7s, so it is a current tomtom app
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No, that image was published on winmo.nl during the Barcelona unveiling of WP7, long before any WP7 skins were created.
Right now it looks like it was either fake (just an HD2 showing a WP7 picture on its screen) or an early development version of the OS, not destined to ever be released on the HD2.
Winmo.nl claimed the TomTom app worked fine on WP7, possibly because 'tomtom was already preparing their software for WP7'.
saints5354 said:
M$ learnt the good idea for iPhone by locked down the system so u can only purchase from App Store. By doing these, M$ will stand good chances to complete will iPhone (Gen 4) in the future.
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It'll probably be iPhone 5g before WP7 will be any threat. iPhone 4g is probably coming out in June/July, a few months before WP7 is even out.
Though the HD2 is a fantastic device and loved by anyone (incl myself) who lays their hands on it, you can't help but feel somewhat bitter that a device of such magnitude is just going to be ANOTHER HTC phone almost solely kept alive by xda-developers.
You can see MS's reasoning. You can love the sheer beauty of the HD2. But Jesus - think of the potential going to waste and how it comes across to consumers who hear 'hey, your device is outdated already'. Consumers that haven't even got the device available in their country yet.
One word - Flash. THAT'S reason enough to be at least a little pissed off as an HD2 user.
A joke, it is - but in XDA I trust.
unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
If the HD2 has a WP7 test build running on it somewhere at HTC and it gets leaked the HD2 should easily get an unofficial upgrade but if that doesn't happen it won't be easy.
bestfan said:
unfortunately, HD2 doen't support WM 7, WM7 only support 3 solid buttons, no more, no less....
HD2 has 5 solid buttons, so...give up to upgrade to WM 7
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You're clearly new to this part of town...
camera hardware button is also a requirement...
an interesting key i found on my T-Mobile HD2 HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\WM7KeybdLayout.
Very strange indeed
I'm pretty sure hardware keys would be irrellivant to getting this on the phone.
My understanding of the key requirements are based upon the chassis version been used with WP7. I think these are basically stipulated purely for the user experience Microsoft are trying to give and not software limitations.

[Q] HD2 Win mobile 7 Rom- when?

now where win mobile 7 has just been released and is available in the stores or better on the new htc mobiles i really wonder when we will get the first official rom from htc for the hd2? I really wonder why it takes so long, isnt the hd2 arichtecture comparable to the one of the hd7? i hope it will come soon...
There wont be an official wp7 rom for the hd2
charliess said:
now where win mobile 7 has just been released and is available in the stores or better on the new htc mobiles i really wonder when we will get the first official rom from htc for the hd2? I really wonder why it takes so long, isnt the hd2 arichtecture comparable to the one of the hd7? i hope it will come soon...
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Hmm, where have you been the passed 10 months? The HD7 is Microsofts and HTC's way of giving you WPS7 on a comparable device. You either need to get a new device, or wait for devs to port it.
I guess in the meantime you can enjoy Android is you are bored.
hi guys.... what about this?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE5OTU0MDY0.html
is this only a theme?
cuzzo94 said:
hi guys.... what about this?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE5OTU0MDY0.html
is this only a theme?
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Since there isn't a sign of another OS boating, I believe this is our HD2 boating WP7 .
can you get in www.xda.cn?
it talk of it in the first page but i can't open it because i'm probably too far away from the server... i'm in italy and th e web site is chinese
edit: http://www.xda.cn/newshow.php?snid=192 o.oo.o
This is just a rom with the interface.
XDA starting HD2_21916_3.14_Windows Phone 7 first to experience the full version of the Chinese Language Interface.
This is the version of windows phone 7 interface experience, not really WP7 prototype system, is still the core of WM6.5, driver version 3.14 for Taiwan, no built-in radio, the radio 2.14 in the case of available memory up to 310M or more, adjust the Task_Manager tasks Manager from the battery icon, WP interface customization options, including color, picture position, add a program, UI and editing, the specific operation: Press the right interface, while the pop-up menu, specifically, how games are played, there are friends to find standby
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From xda.cn
oh ok thanks
can any Chinese person from our XDA site ask them for the ROM? or just register as a tester?
Google translation said following:"This is the master of a successful transplantation of the disc according to WP7 to HD2, HD2 brush WP7 seems getting closer and closer to us"
can anybody explain this?
WoW they port it... there is booting video now
I found something about a bios, check it out here:
http://bbs.xda.cn/viewthread.php?tid=87823
Don't know if its usefull!
Woah! This is really impressive! This was been the best presentation of WP7 on the HD2. I "can" be fake, but they pulled it off very well if they did. *AHEM TOM CODON!!!
Why has there not been many hype about this video?
I honestly, think it looks legit...
what do you guys think? have they beat Cotulla to it?
I'm chinese...and also a member of the forum you guys mentioned before...from my opinion,that's just a theme of win7...not a rom...
I think it's not the true wp7 system because of the static main screen.
The video don't show us contact and phone mode, it's the same things for xbox live.
I don't believe theme.
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It looks like an earlier build. Have given it some press on 1800PocketPC
ok i dont doubt that anyone will be able to port it complete to the hd2, you guys out there are smart enough but what about the rumors i heard over the last year that htc will come up with an offical wp7 rom for the hd2? i thought this was an acknowledged thing from htc or is there anyy offical statement from htc they wont do this?
From what I remember, Microsoft has reported atleast 3 different times stating that there will be no release of WP7 on the HD2. While the HD2 has been considered a test device to build WP7, it is not worth their time to build a fully funtional build on what they might call an old device. There is also the fact that Microsoft has certain restrictions on what devices will support WP7, and the HD2 does not qualify under these restrictions. Since it is Microsoft that designated these restricitons, HTC would be unable to release an official build of WP7 even if they wanted to.
The HTC HD7 is almost identical to the HD2 in terms of hardware. If anything, I would think the best unofficial build would come from this device.
I also don't doubt that there will be a build of WP7 for the HD2 in the very near future
zhyx said:
I'm chinese...and also a member of the forum you guys mentioned before...from my opinion,that's just a theme of win7...not a rom...
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What do you mean? if you're chinese can't you read the explanation and tell us if it's a theme or rom? surely you can read the info on the threads.
Avalandiel said:
From what I remember, Microsoft has reported atleast 3 different times stating that there will be no release of WP7 on the HD2. While the HD2 has been considered a test device to build WP7, it is not worth their time to build a fully funtional build on what they might call an old device. There is also the fact that Microsoft has certain restrictions on what devices will support WP7, and the HD2 does not qualify under these restrictions. Since it is Microsoft that designated these restricitons, HTC would be unable to release an official build of WP7 even if they wanted to.
The HTC HD7 is almost identical to the HD2 in terms of hardware. If anything, I would think the best unofficial build would come from this device.
I also don't doubt that there will be a build of WP7 for the HD2 in the very near future
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M$ was thinking we would take way our HD2, to buy a new WP7s device......Crasy company.
I prefer to be a android embassador, to buy a new M$ device.

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