Q For developers : Android on htc hero OR on WM - Hero, G2 Touch Android Development

Hi all ,
in my country HTC Distributor has no android phones yet and HTC Hero in some unique places is very expensive with no warranty , also any HTC with windows mobile is already exiest so what is more right decision if i want to develop for android :
1- buy HTC Hero , expensive and no warrenty
2- buy Any WindowsMobile HTC , with warrenty , and install android on it ?!
if ur answer is 2 , what is the best htc model for that ?!
Thanks Alot

I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!

it's great to find some one to answer me , thank u
am already using the emulator but when u have real device it can make a difference

You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.

I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.

craig0r said:
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
For more details, visit my Elf guide on my signature.

why don't you get it online? eBay for example..

Thanka alot for all answers ,
MysteryHero said:
You won't get Android working perfectly on a Windows Mobile HTC Phone, the experienced wasn't specifically designed for that device therefore, you should get ALOT of force closes etc. I recommend investing in the Hero.
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i thinks it will be my choice
craig0r said:
I would also recommend a Hero.
That being said, I ran Android on my HTC Vogue (the CDMA version of the Touch) for about a year before Telus got an Android device. It's damn near perfect. Contrary to what MysteryHero says, you don't get any force closes, it runs great. They've even got to the point now where Android can be flashed onto the phone instead of booting it off the SD card from WM. The only thing that doesn't work is BT audio. If you can live without that, I highly recommend a Vogue. Or a Hero, of course. But you could probably find a Vogue for a lot cheaper on eBay or something.
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jeremy89632 said:
Do note that the GSM version of HTC Vogue, which is known as the HTC touch is not able to run on android. ( I used to use a HTC Touch)
For more details, visit my Elf guide on my signature.
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In my Country Egypt only HTC Touch here with GSM
slovoflud said:
why don't you get it online? eBay for example..
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eBay will not ship it to egypt !!

Any android phone will be the best option.
DO NOT get a WM phone instead, hoping that it will give you a perfect Android experience. That will just not happen.
I refuse to believe you cannot get your hand on a HTC android phone way one or the other.
And in regard to your signature:
It should be "learning" not "leraning".

salahag said:
I'm not a developer but I've read somewhere that you can install an immulator on your PC and run your applications on it as if it was running on a specific device. I think it also comes with a list of predefined devices, like Hero for example.
And it's FREE I think!
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It comes with the Android-SDK by default.

For Me... I use HTC WM it's good no problem but when I test htc android phone things change to me htc hero is my current phone and many apps and things you can explore and learn from it... it is depends on you if you like to try and htc will update htc hero rom this coming march for free to download trust me you will amaze and know the difference of the program of it

All opinions say : Hero will be more realistic !! So i think i will buy it
Thanks for all
Also Thanks for Uniqron for Correction , it's only typo error

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thinking of buying htc desire

Hi im thinking of buying a htc desire would you say its a good phone is it easy to root, what android does it run. Any info would help
it runs android 2.1, and is fairly easy to root but we don't have full root access.
If you want the latest updates quick (2.2) and easy rooting get the nexus one
samac92 said:
it runs android 2.1, and is fairly easy to root but we don't have full root access.
If you want the latest updates quick (2.2) and easy rooting get the nexus one
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What do you mean by "we don't have full root access"?
ownhd2 said:
What do you mean by "we don't have full root access"?
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The current root that we have is a temporary workaround. It is dependent on a pc to push files to the phone to enter recovery mode.
You can read more about it here.
But of course developers are working on it and I believe we will have a full root in no time.
i know its too let...
but i am going to buy a Desire, so what should i look for? is there any version of android to look for, any specific hboot version?
i want to root it. so any info will be greatly appreciated...
GSM desires all are rootable. Newest CDMA (sold in the USA) are not yet.
Updates are available OTA, or via download, so does not matter what version it comes with, you can update easily.
hellboy2703 said:
i know its too let...
but i am going to buy a Desire, so what should i look for? is there any version of android to look for, any specific hboot version?
i want to root it. so any info will be greatly appreciated...
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Get a newer phone, with bigger internal space and proper multitouch.
thed0g said:
Get a newer phone, with bigger internal space and proper multitouch.
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This. This phone is still a good device for those who bought it like 1 year ago or so, it didn't grew very old..but ofc if you wanna go for a new toy you should really look at the Galaxy-S II or at the Optimus Dual atm.
If your looking for a pretty powerful phone, get a dual core. Desire is good and it is easy to root (GSM) but internal storage lets it down. If you want, get the Desire S but no point. Get the Sensation or wait for Google I/O and see what is going to be available.
I got the first generation HTC Desire, and i'm very unhappy with it. The antenna and GPS isn't very powerful, and as with original firmware it got a lot of lag-problems. So I wouldn't prefer the Desire's.
I got the Desire when it first came out. It is a good phone, but as has been mentioned above, rather wait for the dual core phones to come out. I have had mine for 12 months, 6 to go on my contract and can't wait for a faster phone, perhaps I'll wait an extra few months for a quad core(insert daydream here). But if you are looking for a "budget" quality phone, I don't think you can go wrong with a Desire.
thed0g said:
Get a newer phone, with bigger internal space and proper multitouch.
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I second this.
The Desire is an awesome phone,but you can get an even better one for a bit more money.
That said,if you want something like the Desire but newer,try the Desire S or Samsung Galaxy Plus (it'll come out soon)...i'd recommend a dual core phone...but thats just a big waste of money >_>
There are at least two versions of Desire on makret now: made in Thailand and China, they say that the thailand's ones are better at least concerning building... but they are slightly more expensive...
So... you decide,.)
Thanx guys for your advice...
I chose it because its amoled display. If not how about desire hd, think this will help with the Rom memory. I am buying used ones. So latest ones are not suitable for me.
Thank you guys again.......
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hellboy2703 said:
Thanx guys for your advice...
I chose it because its amoled display. If not how about desire hd, think this will help with the Rom memory. I am buying used ones. So latest ones are not suitable for me.
Thank you guys again.......
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
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DHD's battery isn't that powerful and its still 5 months old phone now. Unless you can get it for pocket change, I'd wait for newer models and then buy the top **** available.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-5-ca...-quadband-gsm-tv-cell-phone-w-gps-wi-fi-70778
Desire HD has a lame screen (lcd, not even slcd) with poor color qualitty and you can't see anything in the sun light. It has the worst battery perfomance a phone could ever have and with all these deal breakers they cost a lot. Not to mention its too...frigging big, it has the size of my wallet.
The classic Desire is definitely too old and not worth buying nowadays, plus its very limited on hardware (no true multitouch, poor GPU and very small internal memory).
You should try Desire S if you afford or even a samsung galaxy S i9000, pretty old phone but still with monster hardware and kick ass screen.
Easy to root, and you can find many fantastic custom roms incuding gingerbread and sense 2.1
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desire very good easy to root and simple to use i would buy
Buy the desire s
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A question ?

I bought the phone xperia x10i experimentally but has a android system previously used a HTC TyTN 2 and now I want to know from you whether it is worthwhile to mention xperia for HTC Touch Pro 2, or has any hidden errors how it works and whether it is loud enough during the conversation: -) I look forward to greet your feedback
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I intend to sell x10i a few annoying things ... What are your views on the HTC Touch Pro 2? Anyone?
strange ... you do not have a sentence or two touch pro is good or bad phone?
Julek1981 said:
strange ... you do not have a sentence or two touch pro is good or bad phone?
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I suspect that maybe people have not used your phone, so they can't compare.
The TP is a good phone, but you should flash a custom ROM and overclock the CPU in order to get the best experience.
I have not even touch pro2 only xperia android x10 system and really made me very angry because the system needs to replace the phone with Windows Mobile as I had once in the HTC tytn2 and just wants to find out how good the TP2
Julek1981 said:
I have not even touch pro2 only xperia android x10 system and really made me very angry because the system needs to replace the phone with Windows Mobile as I had once in the HTC tytn2 and just wants to find out how good the TP2
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As I said before, out of the box the TP2 is a bit slow. I can't say exactly because mine is a US T-Mobile model, different from the EU model. However, if you flash a custom ROM for the TP2, it can be a very good phone.
Summary: If you are willing to work to learn flashing a ROM, then the phone is very good. If you are unwilling to do this, I would suggest an andriod phone.
I must also add that the keyboard on the TP2 is simply outstanding, probably the best I've ever used.

[Q] Windows Mobile 7 on HTC Desire Z

Hello all,
I have just recently purchased a HTC desire z, therfore i have become a big fan (already linux geek) of android. However with windows mobile 7 phones recently released on the market i would like to know if anyones working or done a dual boot feature on the desire series with android and windows mobile 7?
ANY help would be amazing and thanks you
Impossible. Especially since there is no WM7. Windows Phone 7 on the other hand will be difficult if anything since there is no source.
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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jark99 said:
This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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Yup. iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad, iPod Touch 1G and iPod Touch 4G.
No support for my 2G Touch though
i to just got a desire z on bell and wanted to go back to wm ( been useing a 6800 for 3 years) is there a rom for that for the desire???
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Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
rewen said:
I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
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i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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joeblow_666 said:
i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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Doesn't the Treo have some sort of relation to a WM phone?
If anything will get WP7, it'll be the Desire HD. With it being such a close relation and all.
TheDeadCpu said:
No. No Android phone will ever have WP7.
Sendt with a HW Keyboard from my Desire Z, woop!
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This can't be true since the hardware is WP7 compatible.
My question is WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO?.
If it's to try the new OS, just go to your local dealer and play with there's for about 10 minutes, which is about how long it will take to play with all the features it comes with.
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
The htc hd2 isnt suported for a update since it doesnt have the three hardware buttons required for wp7...im with everyone else in this thread i doubt it will get ported to android..i mean it would be nice to dual boot into wp7 but i doubt it will happen...theres not many devs for the desire z right now..well in comparison to the desire and the hero...lets just hope it may may may may happen
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I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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haha yep. It's not a matter of, "WP7 is better than Android" or vice versa...it's just because we can =P
rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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From what I understand, the version of WP7 that runs on the HD2 can't access any of the Live services at the moment because it hasn't got the necessary certificate. This is likely to be another barrier to this sort of thing, though I imagine someone will get over that in time.
android 22 said:
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
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i have had various Android smart phones in the last few Years, rooted and installed MANY many m-a-n-y ROMs and launchers. I was amazed with the 'LAUNCHER7' launcher that does not require root access. How ever, it is not the genuine Windows 7 mobile, it is the closest thing to it. It even has the 'live' tiles that you see so many times.
Go to the Android market, and search for Launcher7. I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but the author has done a good job on how it looks and feels. It even has the little fly in and out animations when you select a certain tile.
I doubt anybody even wants a wp7 port to make it worth the devs time to make it. just let that junk go... like someone else said use the launcher7 or better yet buy a windows phone! I did and took it back within two hours! Maybe if u never used a smartphone u could lke it, but anyone who is used to the freedom of android could ever backstep into that poop.
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Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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Exactly and this being said how would an Android device such as the Desire Z be able to support the Windows Mobile 7 Apps? On the other hand they have a home launcher in the market that changes your home interface to look exactly like the HTC HD7. You should check it out! Hope I helped a bit
nehemiahfff said:
I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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I doubt if there were emulator that could emulate a windows 7 phone it would not be able to run movies or much in that matter. The processing power to emulate a WP7 phone would drastically slow down the G2 even over clocked.
If we are talking about WM6... i would kind of like to see that... but wouldn't use it as a daily driver.

Flash WP8.1 to Android variants

When the google play edition came out, we got the dump, and worked to making a flashable rom. Now with a Windows Phone variant running on the M8, wouldn't it be relatively easy to port it? I tend to switch between Android and WP phones. Having a phone that could have either would make me want to purchase the phone because I wouldn't have to switch between two phones constantly.
Is hboot on HTC windows phones? Is there a way to dump the system and port it? Make a rom possibly? Maybe possibly RUUs to switch between the OSs factory installs?
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The phones have different hardware so don't count to much on it...
From what I have read, the only change will be the OS
"As for specifications, the Windows-based (M8) will run on Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1, but should otherwise be identical to the Android model, from the Boomsound speakers to the 5-inch Full HD display. No word yet on whether or not the device will come to any carriers other than Verizon, but there hasn’t been any indication from any other carriers up to this point."
So I wouldn't go as far as it's not possible. There is always hope.. In the General folder there is a dev working on a Dual Boot M8. Hoping to see the WP8 on one of the boot....
Mr Hofs said:
The phones have different hardware so don't count to much on it...
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The hardware is identical according to leaks, they just swapped out Android for Windows Phone.
@Oditius, thanks I found it, its called MultiROM.
I currently switch between my M8 and my Lumia 1020. I love the sleekness of Windows Phone and the big screen and awesome speakers of my One. Would be nice to see this happen a-la HD2
Wonder why this thread hasn't been closed by the Android police?
So you care to trust leaks but don't read xda ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2847466
Mr Hofs said:
So you care to trust leaks but don't read xda ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2847466
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So you trust the word of one mod over hundreds of leaks? I am in the WP world as well as android. Ghost may be right, but then again there are too many very trustworthy leaks.
Sent from my AT&T HTC One M8, running the ViperOne M8 ROM via Tapatalk.
Why would i not......Why should i trust leaks even if it would be thousands and spreaded of the word of one man.....same as believing one mod !
I'm not going into discussion about this any further. All WP vs Android M8 are closed down.....this should be the next i guess
But this isn't about WP vs android. I like both OS's. This is about putting WP on an android device to have the best of both worlds
Sent from my AT&T HTC One M8, running the ViperOne M8 ROM via Tapatalk.
BTW WP is coming to the HTC One M8
http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-one-windows-has-cortana-integration-dot-view-case

[Q] What Android for HTC TP2?

Hi, I dare to ask this question since the threads I can find on this dates back to 2013
So I like to try android on my HTC Touch Pro 2 Rhodium 100 phone with English WM 6.5 (Hard SPL'ed unlocked), but what I rather would like is that the phone ran only android. And a newer version than the ones presented in the 2013 threads, it seems the last one there would be 2.3.7.
Is that possible and do you have some suggestions?
With kind regards
JBJ
insomniacno1 said:
Hi, I dare to ask this question since the threads I can find on this dates back to 2013
So I like to try android on my HTC Touch Pro 2 Rhodium 100 phone with English WM 6.5 (Hard SPL'ed unlocked), but what I rather would like is that the phone ran only android. And a newer version than the ones presented in the 2013 threads, it seems the last one there would be 2.3.7.
Is that possible and do you have some suggestions?
With kind regards
JBJ
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Possible yes, done nope.
What I meant by that is that the latest fully (as much as it can be) working android version for this device is 2.3.7 and the most stable ROM being CM7.
Hardware wise the phone should probably be quite able to run android 4.0 and there is a ROM built but most things are not working so you would need to either learn how to build an android ROM/kernel and fix missing things (which would be a lot of hard work) or find a developer that is willing to do it for you, which would probably be impossible so I'd say just run CM7 or you could sell your device and buy some other ultra cheap device that has a newer android version.
Ranomez said:
or you could sell your device and buy some other ultra cheap device that has a newer android version.
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I did just that. I can recommend A Droid 4, mine is running CM13 Remarkably well, their cheap now but still have a good key board.
kzin42 said:
I did just that. I can recommend A Droid 4, mine is running CM13 Remarkably well, their cheap now but still have a good key board.
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Well I will certainly always miss the hard keyboard on the TP2 but I did jump on the high end wagon, good luck with your phone.
Hello, (sorry my English is bad) I also have a HTC Touch Pro2 Win 6.5. I want to flash the Phone, but there is no Download for a Flashing/rooting -Program. Is hire anyone who can give me a active Download? Another Question: is there also a CUSTOM ROM with Android Nougat 7.0?
Many Thanks for Your Help
Gallea said:
Hello, (sorry my English is bad) I also have a HTC Touch Pro2 Win 6.5. I want to flash the Phone, but there is no Download for a Flashing/rooting -Program. Is hire anyone who can give me a active Download? Another Question: is there also a CUSTOM ROM with Android Nougat 7.0?
Many Thanks for Your Help
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Late reply but read this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049567
While downloading the files from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566955
Also dude this phone is really old it obviously would be impossible to run any version of android newer than 4.0 on such low specs and no one made a version of 4.0 that has enough working to be usable as a phone or under any other usage case.

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