Does anyone else have Bluetooth handsfree issue? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Just wondering if anyone else the same problem here.
I have spend the whole morning tring to pair my Touch Pro2 with my Ford Mondeo (5 second job with the Iphone). I have finaly paired it after much F'ing and Jeffing only to find it is not clearing down properly when I end calls with the steering wheel controls.
If I use the phone to answer and make calls the handsfree works great. However if I use the controls with the car to navigate through the address book and dial from here the call is fine but never clears down. I have to turn bluetooth off on the phone to force the car to clear the call!
I had a similar problem with an old XDAII and loaded BTexplorer on to the phone and this cured it but I can't find BTexplorer for the TP2.
A tad frustrating because I was using a Blackberry before but banged on to everyone how useless it was so I have convinced the company to bin them all and go with these, how stupid I will look when the whole company fleet of cars are Mondeo's!
Someone please save my shame with some ideas or know where I can get hold of BTexplorer for WM6.5 or something similar.

I have noticed that winmo seems to be picky about how calls are made and answered with a BT headset (or radio for that matter).
Look in the menu for something about turning hands free on when in a call. Usually I just call voice mail. Sometimes this helps. While I don't have a Mondeo, I do have a few BT headsets and a BT radio in my car. Its not very intuitive, and it sucks, but that's winmo.
I just got my TP2 yesterday, after fighting with sprint for about 6 months and at least 6 junk TP1s and will have to do some experimenting with this new handset.
The most annoying thing for me is the crapshoot when answering a call winmo will sometimes not put it through to the handset. Leaves me shouting "HOLD ON A MINUTE!" while I fumble through the menus to get the audio routed.
If nothing else, I feel your pain. hehe

diggy said:
Just wondering if anyone else the same problem here.
I have spend the whole morning tring to pair my Touch Pro2 with my Ford Mondeo (5 second job with the Iphone). I have finaly paired it after much F'ing and Jeffing only to find it is not clearing down properly when I end calls with the steering wheel controls.
If I use the phone to answer and make calls the handsfree works great. However if I use the controls with the car to navigate through the address book and dial from here the call is fine but never clears down. I have to turn bluetooth off on the phone to force the car to clear the call!
I had a similar problem with an old XDAII and loaded BTexplorer on to the phone and this cured it but I can't find BTexplorer for the TP2.
A tad frustrating because I was using a Blackberry before but banged on to everyone how useless it was so I have convinced the company to bin them all and go with these, how stupid I will look when the whole company fleet of cars are Mondeo's!
Someone please save my shame with some ideas or know where I can get hold of BTexplorer for WM6.5 or something similar.
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Try the solution in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591322
It has fixed problems with other car kits caused by the TP2's Widcomm bluetooth stack.

Thank you!
Thank you dwboston and the other guys, this fix worked a treat for me and most others by the looks of that thread.

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TomTom, BT GPS and BT Headset

I've got a problem that I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing.
I am running TomTom using a bluetooth gps receiver (instructions found on this site to get the damn thing to work in the first place, much appreciated). When this is all I am doing, everything is great, really fast, smooth. As I do a lot of long journeys, I notice that the position update starts slowing down the further I go, but this is still fine.
When I turn on my headset, I start to get a serious lag between my true position and where TomTom is reporting I am (I know which one to trust though, so I don't turn off the motorway a mile too late :wink: ). The starts slight, but then gets really stupid really quickly, resulting in the map being a mile or more out after a minute or two.
I have scoured this and other sites to see if anyone else is getting this problem and have so far found nothing. I have reverted to using a wire until I can get this solved.
The sound ports through to the headset fine, I can make calls, voice command works (most of the time). The headset is a BlueTrek G2, the GPS receiver I am not sure of as it came with no make or model number from eBay.
Could it be a memory issue? I generally have about 15MB program memory free. TT does drop out every once in a while but not in any pattern, whereas the lag issue always happens as soon as I connect the headset. Could it be the BT devices are operating on the same frequency (I have no idea if this is a rubbish suggestion, just something I thought of)
Does anyone know about this? Any suggestions greatly appreciated. In the meantime, I will be tied to my phone while driving.
TIA!
Alternative link found
Even though it looksl ike no one is looking at this I found another topic for this question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38141
Cheers anyway!

Voice control Bluetooth motor intercom?

Hi everybody,
Hope that someone can help me here with the following:
On my motorbike I have an (Starcom1) motor intercom.
I can speak to the passenger, listen to navigation, listen to music and talk to another motorbike. All fine.
Now I use (of course) WM6 devices. Currently the HTC Cruise.
Before I had it set up via my Garmin Navigator, phone rings, number appears on screen and I can decide to pickup or not.
Problem was that on short rides, it is too much hassle to put the navigator on all the time and I hoped to find a better way to still recieve phonecalls.
SO I paired my phone straight to the Bluetooth box on my Starcom.
The problem is that, according to Starcom, my phone needs to be in autoanswerring mode to be able to use it.
Of course this works but is not exactly what I have in mind. Now it is on autoanswer alll the time or I have to go through long menu's to switch it on and off, if I get away from the bike.
I see two options but have not found a solution:
There is some kind of 'connecting' profile system thats switches to autoanswer when it detects a BT headset or special device.
Use voice commands but I have found I always need to press the button to be able to use this. Would there be a method to answer a call without touching the phone in my pocket?
Please give me your thoughts and suggestions.

Bluetooth headgear disconnect mid-call

Sorry if I'm posting a question that's been answerred before, but I haven't been able to find a thread to this problem:
sometimes my Nokia BH-102 will disconnect in the middle of a conversation in the car. The only option at that time is to pull the TP2 from it's holder and put it to my ear.
Whether it's the headset or the phone, I don't know, but it used to work in combo with the old Nokia E60 I used to operate......
Chances are it's the TP2, but how to fix it?
Only 'tweak' was to install tomtom, but without the 2 dll's which have been causing some problems.
Has anybody experienced anything similar?
Bluetooth visor problem
I have had problems with my headset - Supertooth Visor One Bluetooth Car Kit. Not quite the same as you though - the problems I have is that when I make an outgoing call, everything works fine but when I recieve an incoming call the audio stays on the handset rather than coming out of the bluetooth headset - which means I have to pick up the phone. I also have installed TomTom 7 and I had to do the 2 dll fix as my bluetooth was completely broken otherwise. So I guess maybe TT7 is responsible in some way. Only thing is, I dont want to do a hard reset to find out!!
I'd already read about the Tomtom BT-issue so I cleared the 2 dll's out of the cab prior to installation.
So the originals should still be in use. BT is/was working and I have been synching using BT. That's not the problem.
There should be threads out here pointing you to the original dll's. you could past them over the current ones and see if it helps.
I experiencing the same problem, and didnĀ“t install tomtom.
So now it looks like it's a problem in the TP2 then.
Hopefully a BT-guru can investigate? This is way beyond my capabilities.
In the meantime I'll know what to do if and when it happens: take a chance on the cops seeing it and issuing a ticket.....
I'm having a similar issue, my headsets plural, have this problem. It will disconnect but what is happening is the headset is shutting down. If I hold the power button on the headset it comes back on and will work again.
If it was one headset I would think it is faulty but I've had this problem with three headsets and the Bluetooth in my car.
Is it possible that the phone is sending a shutdown command? BTW I am using the stock TMOUS 6,5 ROM and have tried some of the cooked ROMS with the same effect.

Dueling Bluetooths

I have a 2005 Acura with bluetooth phone. My girlfriend and I both have pairing to it, she has an old Sprint A920, I have a Tmobile TP2. If we get into the car around the same time, her phone always wins! Of course the ideal solution would be if the car had a function to prioritize who gets bluetooth (if it connects hers, then sees mine, to disconnect hers and connect mine), but alas, nothing like that. I assume the car is polling for a bluetooth and picks the first one it finds. It doesn't seem related to who it paired last, or who made a call last, and we tried unpairing both then pairing mine first or hers first.
So, other than her turning off bluetooth (a pain on her phone) whenever we get back to the car, is there any solution to get it to like me more? Is the problem in the speed the TP2 connects? Any way to speed that up with the stock ROM.
And while I'm here anyway, many thanks to all the amazing people in the XDA community.
greatbrit said:
I have a 2005 Acura with bluetooth phone. My girlfriend and I both have pairing to it, she has an old Sprint A920, I have a Tmobile TP2. If we get into the car around the same time, her phone always wins! Of course the ideal solution would be if the car had a function to prioritize who gets bluetooth (if it connects hers, then sees mine, to disconnect hers and connect mine), but alas, nothing like that. I assume the car is polling for a bluetooth and picks the first one it finds. It doesn't seem related to who it paired last, or who made a call last, and we tried unpairing both then pairing mine first or hers first.
So, other than her turning off bluetooth (a pain on her phone) whenever we get back to the car, is there any solution to get it to like me more? Is the problem in the speed the TP2 connects? Any way to speed that up with the stock ROM.
And while I'm here anyway, many thanks to all the amazing people in the XDA community.
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I've found that my Windows Mobile devices are slower to pair with Bluetooth headsets/car kits than the older dumbphones I've had (mostly Motorolas).
A partial solution to the problem with the Acura HandsFreeLink, if it pairs to her phone first, is to press the HFL button on the steering wheel and say "Next Phone". It will unlink her phone and link to your phone. That way you can keep both phones paired to the car if needed and still use your phone if the car happens to link with hers first.
dwboston said:
I've found that my Windows Mobile devices are slower to pair with Bluetooth headsets/car kits than the older dumbphones I've had (mostly Motorolas).
A partial solution to the problem with the Acura HandsFreeLink, if it pairs to her phone first, is to press the HFL button on the steering wheel and say "Next Phone". It will unlink her phone and link to your phone. That way you can keep both phones paired to the car if needed and still use your phone if the car happens to link with hers first.
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Awesome solution, TYVM! Funny, I think I remember help telling me that command but never thought that was what it did Now I just have to find a way to say 'next phone' without my g/f hearing me

Answering calls without looking at screen?

I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?
Sorry but I also would like to know how to terminate a phone call without looking at the screen
At the moment I'm turning the screen on, and then click on 'terminate the phone call'
But I'm sure there is an easier way, especially using the physical buttons.
Thanks for any tip.
if you have bluetooth hooked up to your phone, you can just answer the phone call via the bluetooth device.
Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.
ckacey said:
Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.
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Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.
Oranjoose said:
I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?
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don't answer calls while driving...
enjoythemusic said:
Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.
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I've heard his protocol is on its way out. My Honda pulls the contacts just fine from my HD7 & 2 and the G1, pulls the exchange data and loads it into the car.
ckacey said:
I've heard his protocol is on its way out.
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Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?
TBH you dont really need to look at the screen to answer it, flick up and press in the middle on the left....
But like everyone said just get handsfree, if your car doesnt have it you can buy them stupidly cheap anyway.
On the new MINI its really good, pulls the contacts and all of your text messages from the HD7, you can read any new text messages on the navi screen
I think it was HTC or LG that has an app out there that allows you to do various phone things with the placement of the phone. Like turn on the speakerphone by placing the phone face down after you've answered a call or turning it face down while ringing to silence the ringer...
Yeh the HTC app called attentive phone.
enjoythemusic said:
Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?
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I think it uses Address Book Profile, it's abbreviated as ABP (I'm not 100% sure what is abbreviated there)
It uses the mic and amp in the car for audio, it uses the antenna built into the phone, I've never used the external antenna port on my phones, I think my Tmo Wing was the last one with this port available externally.
For A2DP I'm using a device called FIPO, and a Soundgate core, and a soundgate Honda kit. The Honda kit hooks to the back of my nav unit and pretends to be a CD changer, so that I can use the controls on my steering wheel and nav screen. The Core is connected to the Honda Kit, core comes in two models, iPod and Zune, I used the Zune for my Zune. I use the iPod Core to connect to the FIPO. The FIPO is controlled by the phone, and it switches between that device and the nav unit's Handsfree profile based on wether or not I'm on a call. After I'm finished with my call the phone switches back to the FIPIO and resumes the audio.
Thanks for the detailed reply, as i use the Dice Electronics unit for an iTouch, which like your unit one needs to remove 6-disc changer and insert the Dice unit that hooks to the iTouch. What i like about rSAP is that the car has a far better cellular amp/antenna plus rSAP migrated contacts from the SIM to the car's computer. While i could take out the sim card and insert it into the car directly, that is a hassle versus using bluetooth rSAP for each time i enter/leave the car. The car does work via 'basic' normal Bluetooth with the WP7 for handsfree with all the usual features, yet enjoyed the rSAP advantages. Thanks again, ALL help is ALWAYS apprecaited.

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